Did you liked the new range on bows?

[Elva Hunter]

Hello, i know that there have players who did not enjoyed/agreed with the nerf in the bows range; I just wanted to know from the forum users how many agreed or not, with the change.


:syrtis:

[Sentan]

Yes. Now archer is more skilled class, now it's harder to stay out of view and spam shield piercing, parabolic and run away.

[Anunnaki]

Still want to see foresight changed to 15% max.
Those marks who play max range can still reach 45 range...

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Still want to see foresight changed to 15% max.
Those marks who play max range can still reach 45 range...

This pretty much, the range change was a great idea, but marksman can still hit from a huge distance.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

Hello, i know that there have players who did not enjoyed/agreed with the nerf in the bows range; I just wanted to know from the forum users how many agreed or not, with the change.


:syrtis:

New range? The "original" range of the bows was restored. At last.
Didn't vote, not "everything is cool".
Far from it.

[Lebeau]

Ichi is SO right.

Reflect using the #'s:

Basic marks' LB range (usually) = 30m + 10% foresight = 33m + 20% para shot +2% focus = 39.6m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 44.1m + gears.

Maxy marks' LB range (usually) = 30m +20% foresight = 36m + 25% para shot +10% focus = 46.5m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 51m + gears.

"...now everything is cool"?

"No, definitely no":warning:

[Pery3000]

Ichi is SO right.

Reflect using the #'s:

Basic marks' LB range (usually) = 30m + 10% foresight = 33m + 20% para shot +2% focus = 39.6m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 44.1m + gears.

Maxy marks' LB range (usually) = 30m +20% foresight = 36m + 25% para shot +10% focus = 46.5m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 51m + gears.

"...now everything is cool"?

"No, definitely no":warning:

Retards really using Focus/Killer instinct? A good marks can hardly afford this. 2 of the worst spells for marks. This what separates good marks from bad ones.

[Tenel_Ka]

I'm happy that range was reverted back to its original values. I'm not sure why NGD buffed range in the first place. But I'm not sure about a lot of decisions NGD makes.

Maxy marks' LB range (usually) = 30m +20% foresight = 36m + 25% para shot +10% focus = 46.5m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 51m + gears.

This isn't really a viable setup. Focus isn't worth the powerpoints with its small range increase and high cooldown. A marksman would have to sacrifice 15 power points, tricks and damage to be able to skill all these spells.

Perhaps someone could explain to us why the range nerf is a negative change?

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Ichi is SO right.

Reflect using the #'s:

Basic marks' LB range (usually) = 30m + 10% foresight = 33m + 20% para shot +2% focus = 39.6m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 44.1m + gears.

Maxy marks' LB range (usually) = 30m +20% foresight = 36m + 25% para shot +10% focus = 46.5m +15% killer instinct (from walls) = 51m + gears.

"...now everything is cool"?

"No, definitely no":warning:

No one uses focus tbh, rarely even see killer instinct. Marks deserve a bigger range than hunters ofcourse, but not as excessive as it is now.


Perhaps someone could explain to us why the range nerf is a negative change?

People who liked to pew pew think its a negative change, with how it is currently you have to use your brain a certain amount instead of hitting 350+ from range 50. It'll take a while for these types of people to realise how to play properly again.

[Elva Hunter]

This isn't really a viable setup. Focus isn't worth the powerpoints with its small range increase and high cooldown. A marksman would have to sacrifice 15 power points, tricks and damage to be able to skill all these spells.

Perhaps someone could explain to us why the range nerf is a negative change?

I would give many reasons....but in short words...

Would not be due the fact that now mages can hit with normal hits from the same distancy or even more, than an archer? Which was suposed to be the "ranged class" of the game?
And i will not even say that a warlock now can meteor a hunter and cast spells even before the hunter be able to hit him witth a normal hit.

Archers already got Son of the wind, Escapist, Evasive Tatics and Acrobatics nerfed, and now the range of attack got reduced to less than the range of attack from a staf.

This way better NGD delete the class of archers at once, at least will be faster than keep killing the class little by little.




:syrtis:

[_Enio_]

[...] now the range of attack got reduced to less than the range of attack from a staf.


Am i missing something here? Arn't bows and staffs now sharing the same base range again?

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Would not be due the fact that now mages can hit with normal hits from the same distancy or even more, than an archer? Which was suposed to be the "ranged class" of the game?

What has this got to do with anything? Before the range went back to normal archers were just strafing mages with no counterplay. SM is just an alternate way to play warlock, its not really a problem.


And i will not even say that a warlock now can meteor a hunter and cast spells even before the hunter be able to hit him witth a normal hit.

Darkness was nerfed and its always possible to escape from a warlock. A 'defensive' class shouldnt really be able to defeat an offensive one if both players are of equal skill level.

Archers already got Son of the wind, Escapist, Evasive Tatics and Acrobatics nerfed, now the range of attack got reduced to less than the range of attack from a staf.

Son of the wind nerf was needed, even though it failed at times the duration was just absurd. Escapist was not nerfed but made useful, and it is fine as it is. Evasive tactics and acrobatics both give great defence, not sure how they are nerfed?

AFAIK only bow ranges changed and staffs remain the same at max 30

This way better NGD delete the class of archers at once, at least will be faster than keep killing the class little by little.[/COLOR]

The game is balanced around warriors and archers have their place, maybe you need more experience in war

Best,

[Elva Hunter]

Am i missing something here? Arn't bows and staffs now sharing the same base range again?

Yes they are...



:syrtis:

[Sentan]

with normal hits from the same distancy or even more, than an archer? Which was suposed to be the "ranged class" of the game?



:alsius:

Staves max range is 30, max range bonus from gear +3% and Arcane Projection gives additional 15% range.

Here I have +1% range hat, Arcane Projection and 30r staff.
http://i.imgur.com/kulEHrS.png

Hunter with Parabolic Shot [5] and 30r bow has 37.5 range... with this new skill from pet tree 42 range. I won't mention marksman class. What's your problem here? lol

Anyway check your poll result here and on Spanish forum.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Anyway check your poll result here and on Spanish forum.

A poll wasn't even needed for this.

Incredible.

[Elva Hunter]

Staves max range is 30, max range bonus from gear +3% and Arcane Projection gives additional 15% range.

Here I have +1% range hat, Arcane Projection and 30r staff.
http://i.imgur.com/kulEHrS.png

Hunter with Parabolic Shot [5] and 30r bow has 37.5 range... with this new skill from pet tree 42 range. I won't mention marksman class. What's your problem here? lol

Anyway check your poll result here and on Spanish forum.

Sure...Sentan, then make a decent set up for a hunter pet hunter WM, in which you have parabolic shot lvl 5 and The new pet spell for range in lvl 5, as you support in your post, without get literally broken in the others disciplines.

Then come and talk with me ok?

I see many alsius players/Ignis players commenting and voting, mostly mages or warriors, and almost no one Syrtian y/or Archer.
Speaking serious...Right now, even with all those unfair and non sense nerfs happening to archers, i still feel better in be an archer player, than if i was a warlock or barbarian and know that from now on (even more than before)...my class will start any fight against any hunter/archer with 90% of advantage over them. This is different of you use a combo or strategy which lead you to the victory as a warrior; No...This is tie the hands of your opponent and drop it in an arena.
But i have hope...And i know that not just me...but also others good players of archer will find a way...will find a way not just to survive but also of thrive.

Warlocks, Conjurers, ...always were class keepers of all sorts of tools to enter and leave victorious of any combat. Those who ask for even more in favor of these classes is because in these classes there are so many possibilities, that the weak and incompetent get lost and do not fit a style of play.


Best,

Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis.


:syrtis:

[Sentan]

Make a decent set up for a hunter wm with pet in which you have parabolic shot lvl 5 and the new pet spell for range in lvl 5 without get literally broken in the others disciplines.

Then come talk with me ok?



:syrtis:

Hard to make build like that with Confuse (5), DistShot (5), Ambush (5), SoTW (5), Parabolic Shot (5), Shield Piercing (5), Mobility (5). Maybe it's perfect time to learn how to play in different ways.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

https://www.regnumsentinel.com/en/t77f

[Takeyo]

https://www.regnumsentinel.com/en/t77f

That's a solid build. It would be tough to play, but that can always be made up for with skill and positioning. It has the defensive tools necessary to avoid an unfavourable fight. It has the offensive tools necessary to take down an unwary opponent. The range buffs make it fearsome from a walled position, and simultaneously allow chasing for great distances, even on a hunter. Well played.

[Sentan]

https://regnumsentinel.com/en/t77g

Try this.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Prominent sight is so OP, I still wouldn't use pet though. lel

[Elva Hunter]

https://regnumsentinel.com/en/t77g

Try this.

Are you serious?... I would contest that set up as it deserves...but this will not even be necessary since your self couldn't make a set up with parabolic shot lvl 5 and the new pet range spell in lvl5 for a hunter WM. As you placed in your previous post that was "easy" for a hunter, using those spells achieve a range bigger than a mage. Let me Quote to "refresh" your mind:

Staves max range is 30, max range bonus from gear +3% and Arcane Projection gives additional 15% range.

Here I have +1% range hat, Arcane Projection and 30r staff.
http://i.imgur.com/kulEHrS.png

Hunter with Parabolic Shot [5] and 30r bow has 37.5 range... with this new skill from pet tree 42 range. I won't mention marksman class. What's your problem here? lol.


which mean that even with this "weirdo" set up, the hunter still have same/less range than a SM mage.

I am sorry Sentan...but you have to admit that you can"t deal with it; There are no arguments.


Hugs,



:syrtis:

[Tenel_Ka]

Are you serious?... I would contest that set up as it deserves...but this will not even be necessary since your self couldn't make a set up with parabolic shot lvl 5 and the new pet range spell in lvl5 for a hunter WM.

A mage can only skill +15% range if he gives up a third of his spells for an SM build. This makes him very vulnerable, as he's mostly useless if he doesn't have time to buff. Yet you want to be able to outrange him without making any sacrifices?

And i will not even say that a warlock now can meteor a hunter and cast spells even before the hunter be able to hit him witth a normal hit.

Remember that you're a hunter. You have speed, camouflage, and confuse. If you're meteored by a warlock... just move. Or attack him from camouflage. SM or not, a pet hunter can kill a warlock before ambush + sotw/skin of the beast runs out.

Archers already got Son of the wind, Escapist, Evasive Tatics and Acrobatics nerfed, and now the range of attack got reduced to less than the range of attack from a staf.
All classes have had defensive nerfs, including warlock. Archers have far more buffs than warlock, so this comment isn't really relevant.

[Elva Hunter]

A mage can only skill +15% range if he gives up a third of his spells for an SM build. This makes him very vulnerable, as he's mostly useless Yet you want to be able to outrange him without making any sacrifices?


Sacrifices?...I wonder what a mage could understand about sacrifices. Check it out https://regnumsentinel.com/en/t77h
This is just one of the many possibilities for a SM mage, then tell me where are the called "sacrifices" which you say.


Remember that you're a hunter. You have speed, camouflage, and confuse. If you're meteored by a warlock... just move. Or attack him from camouflage. SM or not, a pet hunter can kill a warlock before ambush + sotw/skin of the beast runs out.

Probably you never used a pet hunter decently...surely. Thus i will not even discuss what you said above because [COLOR="DarkOrange"]any B Grade Hunter know the level of the senseless which you just commented.

All classes have had defensive nerfs, including warlock. Archers have far more buffs than warlock, so this comment isn't really relevant.

Please, name bellow the so called "Significant nerfs" for mages okay? I Thank! :)




Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis.


:syrtis:

[Korkan]

@Elva Hunter

so you think that bowrange 35 was justified?
Archers can still have a huge range, but they have to use more points for it.

Your argument about staffmages is also not reasonable, since archers still have superior range (additionally to other spells that you can actually use from 30+ range, mages almost cant)

tbh i think you are only salty that you cant abuse the huge range on top of the movementspeed and defense that mages dont have any more.

Changes are needed to keep the game fresh and interesting, adapt to it.

also: movementspeed is broken, dont argue about 5m range :crying1:

[Tenel_Ka]

Probably you never used a pet hunter decently...surely. Thus i will not even discuss what you said above because any B Grade Hunter know the level of the senseless which you just commented.[/COLOR]

I'm bad and inexperienced at pet hunter, that's true. Yet I've never struggled against standard and SM mages. Surely if I can play archer with this range, the mighty hunter champion can?

[Elva Hunter]

@Elva Hunter

The dude have 1 post in the forum, he joined in the forum in january of this year, and his only one post is to say that i am salty because i cant abuse anymore of the the "huge range" on top of the movements speed and "defense"

Sounds like a joke...

(May i ask what"s your main forum acc? ) xD hahaha

But i will be cool and answer...

No my friend, i am not "salty" due this, first because i never abused of range, and also because the main reason for me and for anyone else on it's mental healthy complain is due the fact that mages can range/out range archers (specialy pet hunters) and there is no sense on this.

An archer with base range of attack in 20, when my foe (a mage) can knock me down with sultar or "shot" faster and harder than me with a Staf beyond range 30 obviously is not normal in no one RPG.

and still i did not even spoke about barbs.


:syrtis:

[Korkan]

There is certainly a reason why i only started posting since this year (because before i couldnt and i didnt really care :) )
Edit: i am playing the game since 2009

so staffs should have such a little range, so you can even outrange them with a shortbow?

It's not like archers have no defense (or a whole skilltree only for defensive purpose) to reduce damage or counter spells completly.

[Elva Hunter]

There is certainly a reason why i only started posting since this year (because before i couldnt and i didnt really care :) )
Edit: i am playing the game since 2009


Correction, you started posting since to night, 15/02/2017, And the funniest thing is that just my post, made you care and post a reply. :) Incredible.
Then could you share with us the name of your main character and Realm? Once that you play since 2009 I'm sure you don't mind and we already met on wz before.


so staffs should have such a little range, so you can even outrange them with a shortbow?

Yes. With a staff from close range the mage should just beat. Does not go out there shooting with it like if was a machine gun.


It's not like archers have no defense (or a whole skilltree only for defensive purpose) to reduce damage or counter spells completly.


Archers have defense?... what!?...

Listen...

To reduce/counter the damage from mages the only skills wich an archer (hunter) has are Son of the Wind and Acrobatics; Both spells nerfed and with poor duraction/effect. Mages are full of everything; So full that even their offensive skills still can be used as defensive measures.


Best,



:syrtis:

[Tenel_Ka]

At this point, I'm fairly sure that the loneliness of Valentines day got to Elva, so he chose to troll on forums. Good job Elva, you got us.

Maybe we should now move onto more important topics, such as the Carnival event this month and whether there'll be any new hats.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

Gimme the Carneval event link ploxty :D

[Korkan]

@Elva Hunter

you sure make a big point about me starting to post in this forum, irrelevant.

long story short: your arguments are subjective, not realistic and make no sense

[Almighty1]

Sacrifices?...I wonder what a mage could understand about sacrifices. Check it out https://regnumsentinel.com/en/t77h
This is just one of the many possibilities for a SM mage, then tell me where are the called "sacrifices" which you say.

This setup is shit.

Anyway in this setup there is no Vamp, no SK, no windwall and no WM passive. The warlock probably has like 3.4k hp with decent hp tunic.

Also, mindpush lvl 1? lol?

Dispel lvl 3 fails a lot.

So by using your setup, a lock basically has no defense, no life steals, and no slow defbuffs. And you ask about the sacrifices? Bravo! :clapclap:

Anyway, for a decent SM setup, a warlock has to sacrfice a lot of ccs for the extra dmg. Also SM setup means, you have to buff like 5-6 extra spells on top of the usual AD and Barrier.

A Staff Mastery style warlock has to sacrfice a lot, you should probably try playing one, instead of making crappy setups to justify your lame views.

Regards,

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Maybe we should now move onto more important topics, such as the Carnival event this month and whether there'll be any new hats.

Go off topic so this disgrace of a thread gets closed. Clever.

but really, when event tho

[Slartibartfast]

To sum up both polls you made, in English and Spanish forums, the result is:

Not happy with new bow range: 13
Happy with new bow range: 63

In conclusion: Elva, you can be unhappy as much as you like, but majority of players like the changes.

[Sentan]

Sacrifices?...I wonder what a mage could understand about sacrifices. Check it out https://regnumsentinel.com/en/t7y7h


Now I see why you cant kill any mage. You dont know what spells they use. Better go to arena and learn how to fight against good mages. This thread wont change anything. Please, close it.

[Aely]

Very hard to lvl up a lvl 50 with range 25 ...

[Anunnaki]

Elva don't give up, you are the world symbole of peace and justice.

[Dumberest]

no i dotn enjoy bow ranges as they are.it makes archers far too easy for a sm mage.it was much more fun when they could kite for longer and have more chance to win.

5m dosnt sound alot,but with passive range boost it is a huge nerf and for hunters is huge as well.

[Elva Hunter]

This setup is shit.

Anyway in this setup there is no Vamp, no SK, no windwall and no WM passive. The warlock probably has like 3.4k hp with decent hp tunic.

Also, mindpush lvl 1? lol?

Maybe you were so anxious to contest that forgot to pay attention in somethings, so let me clarify for you ok?

https://www.regnumsentinel.com/en/t77h

How could you not see that the set up have yes the wm passive. Also, mind push is in lvl 1 because you are suposed to make it stack, with the static field which is on lvl 5 and beyond all...Please observe that this is a question of gameplay style, im not saing for you use this set up; you do whatever you want; Because the main pourpose of the set up was show that a SM lock dont have to make any "sacrifice" to max the discipline of SM, plus own the WM passive, sultar's terror, the discipline of elements maxed, necromancy discipline until soul keeper, etc, etc.

Thus, i never planed to make a SM guide for you almighty, but Just show that for a SM mage there have no sacrifices, different of what happens to Pet Hunters/Archers.

Regards,


:syrtis:

[Elva Hunter]

Elva don't give up, you are the world symbole of peace and justice.

Thank you! xD ^^


:syrtis:

[Dumberest]

this pole has proven to me that 78% of people who post prefer easy fights and should be ignored when making future balance updates lolz

[Elva Hunter]

this pole has proven to me that 78% of people who post prefer easy fights and should be ignored when making future balance updates lolz

Yup, also the forum is not the most secure way to make a research, because not everyone is here, and if you check both polls you will see that about 90% of those who voted in favor of the change were:

-Mages or Warriors

-Most from alsius or ignis

-We got forum campers (Unknowed and recent created forum accs that are used to make volume in the votations.)

-Very few amount of syrtis archer players voting.

In short, if the NGD is using/want use the forum as a thermometer of the "community desires" the things never will show a real result, but just a tendentious result of a small organized group of forum campers.


When i made the polls in both forums i was exactly expecting this, who knows with those results the NGD dont do now like in old times, in which, everytime before a important change the Game Helpers and SGM was used to send MP for the players online in game and ask their oppinon about the subject. The name of this is inclusion, I even spent years without access to the forum, and the only opportunity I had to opine was through the SGMs that at that time did their job very well.
Changes that affect everyone need to be heard by everyone.

Best Regards,

Elva Hunter - Elite of Syrtis.

:syrtis:

[Almighty1]

Maybe you were so anxious to contest that forgot to pay attention in somethings, so let me clarify for you ok?

https://www.regnumsentinel.com/en/t77h

How could you not see that the set up have yes the wm passive. Also, mind push is in lvl 1 because you are suposed to make it stack, with the static field which is on lvl 5 and beyond all...Please observe that this is a question of gameplay style, im not saing for you use this set up; you do whatever you want; Because the main pourpose of the set up was show that a SM lock dont have to make any "sacrifice" to max the discipline of SM, plus own the WM passive, sultar's terror, the discipline of elements maxed, necromancy discipline until soul keeper, etc, etc.

Thus, i never planed to make a SM guide for you almighty, but Just show that for a SM mage there have no sacrifices, different of what happens to Pet Hunters/Archers.


OMFG, have you played a Staff Mastery warlock? I was talking about the WM HP passive.......... :facepalm3:

Also, there is something called power points. You might have the discipline points to reach a particular spell in a tree, but you need frigging power points to use it.

Am I the only person who feels debating with this guy is a waste of time, coz he doesn't understand 99% of what we say? :facepalm2:

[Hollow-Ichigo]

this pole has proven to me that 78% of people who post prefer easy fights and should be ignored when making future balance updates lolz

Nice joke.

[Tenel_Ka]

Am I the only person who feels debating with this guy is a waste of time, coz he doesn't understand 99% of what we say? :facepalm2:

No. Everyone feels that way. And now that we have to deal with the combined stupidity of Elva and Tania, it's time to abandon ship.

ON TOPIC:

People are speculating that the carnival event might be on the 27th-28th of February, as that's when the carnival happens irl.

I'm very much looking forward to it, though I hope there's more to do than just kill Momo.

[Sentan]

no i dotn enjoy bow ranges as they are.it makes archers far too easy for a sm mage.it was much more fun when they could kite for longer and have more chance to win.

5m dosnt sound alot,but with passive range boost it is a huge nerf and for hunters is huge as well.


hardly any marksman playing now,they all swapped to knight and lock


http://i.imgur.com/Z8dNwqG.jpg
1-3 months ago xD Funny.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

http://i.imgur.com/Z8dNwqG.jpg
1-3 months ago xD Funny.

Incredible.

[Kimahri_Ronso]

Incredible.

Incredible upgraded.

Always wanted to ask, if you have nothing to say but willing to raise the number of your forum posts why most of the time " incredible"?
Marquis looks cool below your name but doesn't mean anything :p.

[hellscraem]

this thread is now pointless ngd drop the hammer and close this thread

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Incredible upgraded.

Always wanted to ask, if you have nothing to say but willing to raise the number of your forum posts why most of the time " incredible"?
Marque looks cool below your name but doesn't mean anything :p.

It's a dank meme, come play on Ignis ra with me and you'll know huehue

[TheBarbarianAlsius]

it looks indiferent to me , a good archer always fight in 15-25 range versus a barb.

[Dumberest]

siwy lolz,your such a noob.

ive never ever stated marks range needs a nerf.its excessive and needs to be,thier damage needed to be reigned in a bit thats all.you can kill hitting 200 norms on marks class,you dont need huge damage if u use skill.

changing bow ranges was bad...not archers fault siwy that you are the biggest coward on haven who only attacks lowbies and runs from me everytime 1 on 1.

last time i tried to fight you solo was when we invaded and you run away,you always run away and log out of lost forts.you are the one who needs to stop posting here siwy,we need posts from players who actually play the game for fun win or lose not scared little rabbits who only fight easy fights.

[Elva Hunter]

we need posts from players who actually play the game for fun win or lose not scared little rabbits who only fight easy fights.

+1 Supported.


:syrtis:

[Sentan]

siwy that you are the biggest coward on haven who only attacks lowbies and runs from me everytime 1 on 1.
.

Yes, I count you as lowbie. Whenever I def Gate im on area setup with more supporting spells than your Conjurer which is set for 1v1. Last time when we fought was at pp where I had pvp build. I didnt even transfer jewells to my lock and still won with you. Talking with you is pointless.

Change with bows is great imo. Good archer knows how to play in close range. It makes game more dynamic. Stay at full range where other classes werent able to hit archer was lame.

[Dumberest]

omg siwy,you dont get it do you.you always have an excuse why you couldnt do this or do that.its not about winning,i dont care if i beat you or you beat me,its about trying and you NEVER try you always run away.

your a coward siwy plain and simple so stop making excuses and just admit it lolz.

[Dumberest]

i could make excuses too siwy,like i didnt have silence in that build(which i dont) but i dont care those were organised pvp's.

im not talking about organied pvp's im talking about playing the game for funs sake,you act like losing is the worst possible scenario..trust me it dosnt hurt i die 150 times a day.i rarely get to fight just one person and i dont care either i keep trying no matter the odds.

you wimp!

[Hollow-Ichigo]

We are getting closer to the closing of this thread ya wimps

[Dumberest]

siwy and i need our own hate thread,just so i can call him out for being a wimp :p

[Anunnaki]

Love how it turned lol. I did the first comment, i hope this won't be the last.

[halvdan]

Archers already got [COLOR="DarkOrange"]Son of the wind, Escapist, Evasive Tatics and Acrobatics nerfed, and now the range of attack got reduced to less than the range of attack from a staf.

You're right! xD Yeah, mages have this huge advantage that NGD can't nerf their Son of the wind,Escapist Evasive Tatics and Acrobatics. I hope you appreciate the nice colors I used for you.

But well, this thread is a goldmine.:ranting:

[Anunnaki]

Save this thread for your sad and lonely days.

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Save this thread for your sad and lonely days.

Never forget this day

[Leily]

Well, closing