Haven is Fun (for one Realm)

[Mythox]

Hiho
I got a cool Link how it looks to time on Haven. @adrian watch this link:https://www.regnumsentinel.com/de/haven/events/
Pur Fun while one realm is abusing the dragon wishes and the other 2 realms empty with players and can do nothing. Thats why I said in the other Post from Perylith focus on Valhalla and haven first before the other stuff. Anyways it looks again like last year so. Asking for war confidence is useless since we didn't get it last year also. So what can we do @ngd. Should we all join Alsius or joining ra or accept how it is? We talk now since months about the topic haven but none sees any resultats. When is the thing with gamigo finish. Give us please more infos so we dont stay in the dark. How is it going with asking players etc. I didn't weite this post to blame someone, I mean it serious we toke so much time in our Chars etc. Thanks for reading please dont delete this Post. It's important. I am waiting for your reply.
Regards
Rumiel Aurion (Haven & Valhalla)

[Hollow-Ichigo]

This doesn't really mean anything except that alsius has more online during EU nights. If ignis or syrtis had the zerg they would do the same thing.

Don't know how anything can even be done about it.

[Mythox]

You miss understand that they have 24x7 zerg. I dont know when we made a nice 3 way must be some weeks ago. But syrtis has during the day 4-5 online and alsius 10-15 and in evening even more.:nunchaku:

[Adrian]

Whenever you see the numbers you can see that population is similar in all realms, war activity is similar between Alsius and Ignis but Syrtis way lower (even having similar population to others) and yet, Invasions happen mostly for Alsius.

This clearly states that this is not a population issue (I'm not saying that Haven doesn't need more people) but a gameplay issue. There is something that doesn't motivate playing when one other realm succeeds and this we all know about. This only happens in low overall population servers or moments of low population during the day.

I believe there is a huge need of more things to do in the game, specially bosses and in a more balanced way (meaning: loot chances). With this, war would not be the only focus for "zergs" and the distraction can lead others to success. So, there is a gameplay cycle to be fixed here, not a population issue (which is a different problem).

About those more things to do, we are already planning new bosses, adapting existing ones to a more fair loot system and also provinding random spawning with alerts to nearby users to avoid massive amounts of people waiting there. Also, more frequent spawns because of this.

War also will need some work, but I believe that in the meantime, war is fine and needs some healthy alternatives that don't take you so far away from war.

[rekkles12]

Make souls and dragon hearts tradeable ,there wouldn't be so much complaining about dropping since many got souls they don't even want to use while others can't drop them.

[EverlastingWind]

But syrtis has during the day 4-5 online

Syrtis did it with it's own hand.

You know people ended up with accounts in 2+ realms as result of merges and no acceptable solution was offered to them (delete the characters with all the gear is totaly unacceptable, I still have to find someone that did that after he boxed/enh/engrave on that account; when I wrote tickets about this I was answered to delete my characters, yea right...). Also I doubt someone crazy enough to actually delete his characters with all the gear will have the patience to wait half a month, don't get me wrong but in that half a month in other MMO he is max level and has gear that is 90+% from the max possible...
When you read the following in Syrtis chat: "You logged to spy.", "Don't log here.", "Who are you in Ignis?", "Alsius has 50 don't go wall" (when in fact Alsius had 15 and there were 10 Syrtis afk at cs), "Go back Alsius/Ignis" (when that player logged to help defend, funny in a sad way cause Syrtis didn't had the numbers to defend) and other extremely toxic behaviour you start to ask yourself why you want to play in a realm with such players.
Just so you know both Alsius and Ignis have players that played before in Syrtis and some of them still have their Syrtis accounts but don't want to deal with what is going in Syrtis.
And yes the realm that has a high % of toxic players doesn't deserve to have players. When I said in Syrtis chat "Syrtis doesn't need players" I said it for a reason! There is no hate here, just logic and logic is cruel.

Not my fault other players managed to destroy everything that Tania has build in my case. It's actually hard for me to be the enemy of the player that helped me the most by far in this game but it's just impossible for me to play in Syrtis. I basicaly try not to hit her and yes there were complains about this.

There is also another problem in Syrtis. Some of the best items in Syrtis are stuck in the inventories of 7 banks (5 of them just like to have the items in their inventories, they don't actually play, they just buy and never sell and they don't lend the items (as if lending is a good practice taking in consideration what has happened in Syrtis several times)).

I played other MMOs where I could made characters in all the 3 "realms" on same account (it's actually race in that game) or I could just change the "realm" (it's actualy world in that game) and keep all progress (level, gear, etc) if I didn't liked what was happening.
Hardest part for me is not to share the informations I see, this forces me not to call the track and go cs and wait because I knew what the enemy planned to do. I can easily be the only one doing this...

Ignis is fighting back most of the time. They have a couple of players that are actually trying to do action.

If starting from 2 years ago Haven would had been kept with permanent exp, drop and wmc boost things would had been better.
Exp will do 0 in Haven if not combined with drop, commerce is totaly dead (the rumors about the merge totaly killed it) and if by a miracle the new player stay he/she will end up without gear at 60, will be destroyed by one of the enemies, will complain about the fact that he/she does little damage and the enemy is doing way too much damage, maybe try to box for a weapon and get some joke magical/epic/legendary and will just leave the game. I saw this story happening over and over.
Things are just way too slow in this game for the new player to stay. This game compete with other MMO, MOBA (you need like 2-3 hours in some cases until you can play with and against enemy players) and FPS games (i some cases you can go directly in games with and against enemy players).
Linux client has game breaking bugs:
- some NVIDIA gpu crash with beams/trails on
- Intel gpu miss water and a couple other animations
- amd pre-GCN gpu with Mesa miss water, also in some cases the armor is not rendered and you end up with nudes, ubuntu 14.04 has a bit more of 1 year of support and from that point the use of flgrx will not longer be possible to somehow try to fix it (some amd pre-GCN with fglrx are crashing with beams/trails on)
Windows client has bugs too:
- crash on loading (add here some random crashes while moving)
- loading screen getting stuck (you have the sound but the image is stuck with the loading screen)
- characters, mounts, companions not loading resulting in low fps
Those things have been wrote over and over on this forum...

Don't get me wrong but in Haven there are hours when you can solo invade if you have a barb... There is also no fun to try to invade on your own and well the enemy has 1 defender also and you can't do it. Had such a 1 vs 1 me defending and 1 syrtis barb trying to solo invade, he gave up after first try because it was clear it wasn't going to happen.

[Mashu]

...specially bosses and in a more balanced way (meaning: loot chances)

I agree, loot chances need to be revised.
On the top of that, it has been suggested, that perhaps crafting the same boss drops, others get by chance. Such that either get it by lucky or craft it after playing often and putting effort into it. This way long playing players would be rewarded for putting time into game.

...With this, war would not be the only focus for "zergs" and the distraction can lead others to success.

Actually I hear players saying "Haven is only good for bosses". Yesterday at Aggers at least for the time I was playing, we had many people, it's been some time, since we had that much fun.
Obviously players that drop at bosses regularly were calling to do bosses, but for time I was on, people preferred to stay at fort and fight and it was really nice and fun.

...some healthy alternatives that don't take you so far away from war.

Well said, we exactly need that. More challenges, more interesting stuff to do in game, so people are motivated to play.

[Mythox]

Soooo I am a Syrtis player. I was bored after staying always at cs because we gad no players for a war. Anyways i made solo i got zerged in 10vs 1. I got annoyed af and was about to delete all. (Didn't delete) . I logged off. Is this now what i have to do every day? Every day logging in get farmed starting to rage and log off? Sad. Okay as far I have read everything its not the numbers here. Kind of weird. Because in my Fl are 2 online while in Samal stay 15 from alsius. I go there die in 5seconds because i have a 17 vs 1 cuz ignis starts hitting too for the wm quests. So best solution for Syrtis is log in for daily reward then log off?
Regards
Rumiel Aurion

[scgscgscg]

Soooo I am a Syrtis player. I was bored after staying always at cs because we gad no players for a war. Anyways i made solo i got zerged in 10vs 1. I got annoyed af and was about to delete all. (Didn't delete) . I logged off. Is this now what i have to do every day? Every day logging in get farmed starting to rage and log off? Sad. Okay as far I have read everything its not the numbers here. Kind of weird. Because in my Fl are 2 online while in Samal stay 15 from alsius. I go there die in 5seconds because i have a 17 vs 1 cuz ignis starts hitting too for the wm quests. So best solution for Syrtis is log in for daily reward then log off?
Regards
Rumiel Aurion

u can try this
https://image.ibb.co/iPuCXx/lul.jpg

[Hollow-Ichigo]

u can try this
https://image.ibb.co/iPuCXx/lul.jpg

Holy fucking shit LOL


About those more things to do, we are already planning new bosses, adapting existing ones to a more fair loot system and also provinding random spawning with alerts to nearby users to avoid massive amounts of people waiting there. Also, more frequent spawns because of this.

This would be nice, stops people from camping. pepesmug

[Lebeau]

Syrtis is a zerg-or-no-play realm in Haven, & sorry, it's just how it is & has been for years. As to the future, only NGD & Haven-Gelfs can telll....

Buck up, you Gelfs! Because, I honestly am looking forward to a merged Horus + Valhalla, & I truly do hope it's the Haven-answer for now.....

;)

[Hollow-Ichigo]

Faking something nice. Cool guy

https://imgur.com/a/101T1

Syrtis is a zerg-or-no-play realm in Haven, & sorry, it's just how it is & has been for years. As to the future, only NGD & Haven-Gelfs can telll....


When are the school holidays so syrtis can start zerging with the 20 kids + 20 alsius who move back there for a few weeks?

I for one, can't wait.

[Mythox]

u can try this
https://image.ibb.co/iPuCXx/lul.jpg

Weird shit �� makes me Think.

u can try this
https://image.ibb.co/iPuCXx/lul.jpg

Anyways I am glad that I still got some haters, would be boring without them. Anyways did you hear something about jokes? Well you want try to bann me then do it. Must hurt the feeling when other players got all.

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I am right now in Syrtis Haven online 46mins already. I logged then started the Alsius Invasion on Syrtis. I was trying to defend the Realm we were total 3 Syrtians vs 20 from Alsius. Now my question: How to enjoy this server? I'm just asking because I would like to know it and try it out. I mean an Gate fight can be fun if we would have equal numbers. Maybe I didn't see our numbers in the zerg of Alsius. Maybe is my Friends list bugged. I dont know anyone can help? I feel kinda miss understanded here. Wasting years in the chars and can't enjoy game.

u can try this
https://image.ibb.co/iPuCXx/lul.jpg


I posted in the fb group that I deleted my Conju where is the screen guy. Since I got a stalker and who makes from jokes serious things and why did you cut Drago I from the picture we made some nice jokes and you dont share them? It was a way fun. Ok Fanboy what char should I create?

[TheBarbarianAlsius]

4 Replys intead of just editing first one
https://i.imgur.com/WdpBsIh.jpg

[EverlastingWind]

I am right now in Syrtis Haven online 46mins already. I logged then started the Alsius Invasion on Syrtis. I was trying to defend the Realm we were total 3 Syrtians vs 20 from Alsius. Now my question: How to enjoy this server? I'm just asking because I would like to know it and try it out. I mean an Gate fight can be fun if we would have equal numbers. Maybe I didn't see our numbers in the zerg of Alsius. Maybe is my Friends list bugged. I dont know anyone can help? I feel kinda miss understanded here. Wasting years in the chars and can't enjoy game.

You do understand that your own actions made me no longer want to play in Syrtis.
I have no problem to say why.
Some months ago you gifted me (you clearly said the items are mine so it was NOT a loan) some marks items (someone told me that you will ask for your gift back and she was right), I was only using the bp and the mana regen gaunts (the mana regen gaunts had no real impact, it was something like +1,5 mana regen/sec something that I don't really see).
The reason I put an enh on that bp is because I don't really expect someone to ask back his gift. You asked for your gift back saying something that sounded like I didn't deserved it. After you offered a solution that I found acceptable for the enh you got all your stuff back (well it was 2 trades because I couldn't take all the stuff from stash and the first trade was before you came up with the solution for the enh on the bp), I could had easily said no. Due to your request to give you back the gift I decided that it's also fair to ask back for the greater gems I gifted you (silly greater gems but it doesn't matter).

Before you did that Syrtis was the favorite to win for the realm where I will play (after the break I decided to look around in all 3 realms and it was between Syrtis and Alsius), Syrtis was slowly but surely winning.
The side effect of the situation that you generated is that Syrtis ended up on 3rd place with no chance to win. I already knew that I won't enjoy the Syrtis chat, I already knew that trading in Syrtis is basicaly impossible (sick prices up to 3-5 times more than in other realms) and I'm known for not using items that are not mine. Knowing that and the fact that well I will have to trade (as if that is actually possible in Syrtis...) for a proper bp just made me pick the other option...

In place of writing on this forum that Syrtis doesn't have players maybe you should look at how you made a player pick another realm over Syrtis.

I have nothing with you. I just try to make you understand that some of your own actions can make other players no longer want to play in Syrtis.
But I do have a question: What type of human ask for his gift back?!?

Also I don't get why Syrtis is keep saying that you have high prices. They often ask considerable higher prices compared to you...

[Mashu]

Adrian might not have interest in reading drama between players going on here, nor it gives any valuable feedback on the game mechanics.

I feel sorry for him, that he has to dig through this posts of "my items blah blah blah", "my realm blah blah blah".

How about

Instances that need to be captured for certain amount of time to be able to enter. Each instance would resemble environment of location and drops specific to that location.
Only party of 4 players would be allowed to enter, but multiple times during the day as long as one realm keeps the instance for certain amount of time.
Instance map would consist of 4 parts sampled from ~10 parts, Each having own challenges. So every entry to the instance would give randomly generated map and XP/gold/materials for advancing in it.
Each instance submodule would require different class skills to solve the puzzle. For example hunter to disable trap. Barbarian to move the stone with strenght. Knight to move across fire...etc
After surviving and solving puzzles boss which would reward each participant with random loot, but all participants would get something

[EverlastingWind]

How to enjoy this server? I'm just asking because I would like to know it and try it out.

You had Ignis and Alsius accounts. You could for example play in one of the other 2 realms. :devil: "if you can't beat them, join them"
Might be a bit more complicated because well you're famous even in RA. :D

Alternative in case you no longer have accounts in other realms. (What you did with them?!?)
You learn guerrilla warfare. Melee doesn't really work well, maybe in Alsius warzone you can do something due to trees but in Syrtis (except around wall) and Ignis warzone it won't work that well. You will have to play a ranged class: warlock (you have the areas to deal with a zerg if you cast them properly, but you are paper), warju (you can tank, you have self sustain, you do decent amount of damage with the staff but it's single target), marks (you had a mag lb, boss jewels including here vesper amulet you supposed to nuke most of the enemy archers) or hunter (the class that supposed to do it on its own, but you need to understand that without a pet your damage is by far the lowest of all 4 and the pet won't do much in fort fights, still with full boss jewels you supposed to dismount and kill any conj/archer, boss jewels will do considerable more damage than I do with my wm jewels (I don't have any boss damage jewels, I know there are rumors that I have but those rumors are wrong)).

You have to understand that there are big differences between barb/knight and marks/hunter. Usually barb main players are overaggressive when playing marks/hunter. You just need to be a bit less aggressive and understand the amount of damage that you do.
Yes I told you to only play barb/knight because you were constantly underperforming for the marks/hunter gear that you were using. As marks/hunter you need to be a bit less aggressive and well a bit less confident on your damage/tanking abilities compared to barb/knight. With practice you will figure out the right balance for you.
I have that boring safe playstyle from other games and it won't really change because I still play 2 of them and I actually have to play safe there else I die and my team will have problems. I want to say that in my case it's not the right balance for my gear, I supposed to be more aggressive, but I lack the aggresivity...

Also you can ask the best active Syrtis hunter how he rambo killed me when i was between 8 Alsius with 3+ clearly seeing what is happening. :D If he can do that without being full boss jewels why you shouldn't be capable with full boss jewels?!?

I feel sorry for him, that he has to dig through this posts of "my items blah blah blah", "my realm blah blah blah".

Well it's not me who started this topic. Beeing the only archer that does some damage in a realm with low population makes me a practice target for the enemy archers. To not die in 3 seconds (to be read before a conj will even have the chance to react, take into consideration here that in Haven you won't really see the conjs using ls on an archer, in some cases the conjs don't even bother to bless/bless wep the archers...) I need gear and finding gear in a realm with low population is almost impossible (from 50 x 6h drop gems I'm end up using only the arrows so clearly dropping something is not a solution).

If you use gear you get used with that gear, you will end up knowing what you can do with that gear and what you can't. If you got used with that gear and it's not yours and the one that is the owner of the gear ask for it back you will have a problems because you end up using gear that you are not used with and your gaming experience will suffer. This is the main reason I don't use gear that is not mine. I have issues when I have to use less good gear, no issues if the gear is better.

Adrian might not have interest in reading drama between players going on here

In the last 2-3 years Syrtis has been the drama realm. You want to see drama you log Syrtis. :devil:
If you don't want to deal with drama you basicaly have to not play in Syrtis in Haven...

[schachteana]

Well it's not me who started this topic.
but it's you who keeps spamming walls of texts everywhere. Please consider publishing your own newspaper instead.

[EverlastingWind]

but it's you who keeps spamming walls of texts everywhere. Please consider publishing your own newspaper instead.

Taking into consideration how many posts I have on this forum and the date when I joined this forum it's a bit hard to be that case.
In vBulletin you can set the Maximum Characters per Post. I never hit that limit in my posts.
Sometimes things can't really be wrote in less words. Also nobody forces you or someone else to read my posts, you can easily use the ignore function provided by this forum to not see what I wrote.
10 years ago the suggestion with the newspaper would had been a good one, but it's been a couple of years since newspapers don't really sell.

*****

Don't get me wrong but he complains about Syrtis having a low population but he is responsible for the departure of some players from Syrtis.
He also reported and got banned (for a couple of days) a player that was actually a "realm builder" (and there aren't many active "realm builders" left in Haven). It just happen that it was my friend that he got banned. Do you think I was happy about this situation? Do you think I was happy to see the rest of Syrtis acting awfull with my friend after the ban expired?!? It's sad to see how the players that were helped by my friend started to act awfull with my friend, that tells a lot about what type of humans they are...
Taking into consideration his own actions this topic makes no sense at all for me. He did things that made some players leave Syrtis and then he complains about not having the numbers in Syrtis to fight the enemies...

I understand that the average human doesn't really see his own mistakes. It happy applies for me also. That's exactly why I pointed to his own actions that crippled Syrtis.
The examples were needed, just saying it's your fault won't help at all because it doesn't explain what others might think it's wrong.

And yes in the last 2-3 years Syrtis is the drama realm. In place of working together they are busy insulting and flaming each other, reporting and geting each other banned, sharing accounts and items (resulting in more problems), complaining about everything and not really defending/fighting despite having the numbers to defend/fight, selling items at higher prices than any other realm, not really showing much interest in helping new players, blaming NGD for things that are not NGD fault, taking on players from other realms that log in Syrtis to help them defend. In those conditions how they can expect to actually have the numbers?!?
They've done almost everything possible to make their own realm empty...

[Hollow-Ichigo]

but it's you who keeps spamming walls of texts everywhere. Please consider publishing your own newspaper instead.

Don't reply to him, he'll just respond with another wall of text.