the new barberian prospect

[mexicann]

well i already wrote a thread of this same thing in the spanish inn but ill like to share with u guys that im promising to be the best barb on RO, his name is "el magnifico", hes from alsius lvl 40. other characters i have: lord feer (im not using him cause im training the barb, I promise u to trie my best to be the best barb of regnum
thank u very much, feer

[misaccc]

Hehe im still gonna own your best barb ass:p

[-Edge-]

Good luck with that, especially if your another SC barb >.>

[Static_Fang]

Good luck with that, especially if your another SC barb >.>

Theres a lot of those who use that, but its a way they play the game.

GL Feer

[_dracus_]

Theres a lot of those who use that, but its a way they play the game.

GL Feer

You know even with piercing weapon I've seen some really high dmg (let say a ripost at more than 2k dmg).

[DkySven]

Good luck with that, especially if your another SC barb >.>
Repeat that again and this time to Beue, we'll see how long you'll survive.

[-Edge-]

Repeat that again and this time to Beue, we'll see how long you'll survive.
Uh no I wasn't making the assumtion that they are weak, I was directly saying its lame and im totally against it.

I don't care who does it, if I saw Znurre cast a South Cross on me then that would change the way I thought of him :eguitar:

Plain and simple SC Barb = PT Barb

I don't care.

[Znurre]

Uh no I wasn't making the assumtion that they are weak, I was directly saying its lame and im totally against it.

I don't care who does it, if I saw Znurre cast a South Cross on me then that would change the way I thought of him :eguitar:

Plain and simple SC Barb = PT Barb

I don't care.
Yup.. one of the reasons I won't use South Cross is because I think it's actually a really lame spell, it's like Evasion for archers.

Some choose to make it easy for them and use evasion, some wants to prove that you can fight good without it.

South Cross would be possible on lvl 3 with my current setup, and lvl 4 with just some small changes, but I wouldn't like to do that.

[DkySven]

Uh no I wasn't making the assumtion that they are weak, I was directly saying its lame and im totally against it.

I don't care who does it, if I saw Znurre cast a South Cross on me then that would change the way I thought of him :eguitar:

Plain and simple SC Barb = PT Barb

I don't care.
Then, what's your definition of a SC Barb? Someone who just use the spell, or someone who relies on it?

[CumeriTarenes]

Yup.. one of the reasons I won't use South Cross is because I think it's actually a really lame spell, it's like Evasion for archers.

Some choose to make it easy for them and use evasion, some wants to prove that you can fight good without it.




what's this?

a lame spell, lol

Everything except 1v1 or a fight with same numbers and levels on both sides is lame. So...why do you even play this game?

and saying archers who use evasion are lame...you have no clue! Why do you use caution and frenzy? How lame is that....?

I am done, I will leave Valhalla clan because the leader of it has such a lame opinion about it's members.

And to edge: a barb whi uses SC is a pt...lol. You are that ignorant...everyone has it's own playing style and there is no perfect setup. No spell and no spell combination of any kind is lame. It is just an effecient use of the skills NGD gave to us.

[Znurre]

Sure, do it if you like.
As to what I wrote, I think you misunderstood it, or I wrote it bad.

What I meant was:

I think South Cross is rather lame, because it is overpowered imo.
There are different people in this game, some are like me who doesn't use South Cross because they want to prove that you can play good without it.

Some people are like Fluffy and doesn't use SOTW because they wanna prove you can play good without it.

I just made a compare, and mixed it up with my personal feelings.
I never stated that Evasion was lame, only that South Cross was lame in my opinion.
Atleast I intended to do so. English isn't my native language as you might know.

If you feel hurt or targeted by that post, sure...

[-Edge-]

And to edge: a barb whi uses SC is a pt...lol. You are that ignorant...everyone has it's own playing style and there is no perfect setup. No spell and no spell combination of any kind is lame. It is just an effecient use of the skills NGD gave to us.
No sorry I belive someone pressing 1 button that can do over 2k damage every 6 seconds is not my definition of skill.


Then, what's your definition of a SC Barb? Someone who just use the spell, or someone who relies on it? Relies on it of course, its a spell there for a reason, but I don't like someone using it on me during the whole battle.

[misaccc]

The sc problem will disapear along with most slashing users....then everyone will whine about ripost/mind squash....wiiii^^

[Mikan]

I'm the best barb. There can be only one! :nunchaku:

[mrclean]

The sc problem will disapear along with most slashing users....then everyone will whine about ripost/mind squash....wiiii^^

Actually someone was whining about mind squasher...

The SC matter... Well Gpomal saw me dieing in 3 hits by a barbarian when my fully buffed knight doesn't block... That's why when I hunt with him and meet a barb (with sword) usually I cast Army of One immediately... Ripost can deal lot of damage too, but I would not change both spells, the idea of many barbarians using mind squasher terrifies me :D

EDIT: anyway, I don't see anything useful in slashing except south cross and disable limb...

[-Edge-]

The sc problem will disapear along with most slashing users....then everyone will whine about ripost/mind squash....wiiii^^
That will be a cherished day!

I can't wait to laugh my ass off at all the pt barbs in Ignis that will suddenly disapear. Oh I gotta get the popcorn for that day.

[Heglin]

and saying archers who use evasion are lame...you have no clue! Why do you use caution and frenzy? How lame is that....?

I am done, I will leave Valhalla clan because the leader of it has such a lame opinion about it's members.


Everyone have the right to think what they want about skills, i don't mind that Znurre thinks SC is lame, it's the skill he doesn't like not the players. So i'm sorry about you leaving, gl in the future.

I think loads of skills are lame, still i would use those skills ;)

[Angelwinged_Devil]

And to edge: a barb whi uses SC is a pt...lol. You are that ignorant...everyone has it's own playing style and there is no perfect setup. No spell and no spell combination of any kind is lame. It is just an effecient use of the skills NGD gave to us.
NGD also gave us sotw, and that's going to be nerfed for sure. Try playing without evasion and you'll see what skill is.

[misaccc]

Try playing without meteor or hp draining skills:p

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Try playing without meteor or hp draining skills:p
heh, I know how to play without meteor
hp draining skills is another case, but I would probably just level up mentals and bust your ass with combat control spells :D

[_dracus_]

NGD also gave us sotw, and that's going to be nerfed for sure. Try playing without evasion and you'll see what skill is.

I know some mage that has the same evasion than archers with cat reflexes on 3 (ask for Valour). Please stop being all negative against evasion. IMO the only problem is with SotW (too long duration, and allowing too much skills)

Right now why SotW is so lame:
- A marksman will rush on the conj of your group cast confuse, and SotW and finish him just with normal (recharged) hit.
- A hunter will cast SotW and choose whether to fight (with his pet) or cast camo and run.

This is really the easyway, SotW should only allow evasion skills and remove other effects like recharged or pet attack.

[misaccc]

Yeah right awd...wanna try?^^

[Aries202]

A warlock doesnt need meteor to kill a warrior(mind push ftw baby)

Ok yes SC is overpowered but if you nerf it what would happen to the knights that use SC as a power source

[sathilda]

A warlock doesnt need meteor to kill a warrior(mind push ftw baby)

Ok yes SC is overpowered but if you nerf it what would happen to the knights that use SC as a power source

Well they'll use ripost, and people will ask to nerf it then.

But anyway Blunt FTW... i'm still waiting for a "normal" knight with SC or Ripost to kill me :thumb:

[DkySven]

Barbs who rely on SC are not ovepowered, only a bit strong in fort wars when they are not the only target:

he used the very slow royal spear and warlord axe, I used a slow spear and a slow hammer of concentration with +24 fire damage

[misaccc]

@Aries
most locks rely on meteor....and soulkeep...
@sathi
get kathilda to 46 so i can spank her RAWR;D

sc is too much even in the hands of a knight...

[sathilda]

get kathilda to 46 so i can spank her RAWR;D


You will have to be patient to see me 46, i don't play that much anymore and i have still a lot of things to learn at playing the Knight :p

But "You" have spanked many wood elves' asses lately :thumb:

[Cool_is_i]

THE BEST BARB EVER?
THATS A LIE!!!
SHADOW WALKER IS THE BEST BARB EVER!

I, not there yet....
But i will be soon... someday....
If i see you on the battle field my friend... your goign down.

[misaccc]

They werent male asses right?i preffer girlies heh...

[sathilda]

They werent male asses right?i preffer girlies heh...

Nah only chicks, especially conjurers :]

Look yet another one lvl 50 pt SC barb... unfortunatly he has resisted the forceful blow, it was him or me :bangin: :

[DkySven]

Hey, Red, so you're level 46? We could have another PvP.

[misaccc]

My comp is fried atm my friend spilled some beer and....long story^^
but ok when its fixed ill come and rape ya:)
nice sathi tho you evade more then you block:p

[sathilda]

My comp is fried atm my friend spilled some beer and....long story^^
but ok when its fixed ill come and rape ya:)
nice sathi tho you evade more then you block:p

Moarf, so you won't play for a while :( It's normal that i don't block much, grinding setup = knarb setup :]

[Vroek]

The only PT warriors are barbarians with spears
afraid to go toe to toe with decent warrior i presume. :jacky_chun:

[Znurre]

The only PT warriors are barbarians with spears
afraid to go toe to toe with decent warrior i presume. :jacky_chun:Agreed actually :)
I do not fear spear users at all, I have so good piercing resistance.
Barbs with Berserk lvl 5 do 900 Ripposts on me when I have my right combination of armor.

But, I still think South Cross is a lame and very cheap spell, just like Death Sentence or Son of the wind.

[CumeriTarenes]

But, I still think South Cross is a lame and very cheap spell, just like Death Sentence or Son of the wind.


nah, you think archers who use evasion are lame...theey have no skill. Only skilled archers use no evasion:

one of the reasons I won't use South Cross is because I think it's actually a really lame spell, it's like Evasion for archers.

Some choose to make it easy for them and use evasion, some wants to prove that you can fight good without it.


And to spear users: yeah so are archers who use a bow with more than range 20....and range passive, wtf...how lame is that?:bangin:

And how lame is to knock someone down? You cannot have a fight when you opponent cannot hit back....how lame.

But anyway, according to AWD archers destroy teamplay.....according to znurre archers who use evasion are lame. It's realy fun and gives a good feeling to play an archer when your mates and enemies think in such a way about the class you play.

We should all meet with our party heads and dance together....that's not lame i guess

[BlooD]

nah, you think archers who use evasion are lame...theey have no skill. Only skilled archers use no evasion:



And to spear users: yeah so are archers who use a bow with more than range 20....and range passive, wtf...how lame is that?:bangin:

And how lame is to knock someone down? You cannot have a fight when you opponent cannot hit back....how lame.

But anyway, according to AWD archers destroy teamplay.....according to znurre archers who use evasion are lame. It's realy fun and gives a good feeling to play an archer when your mates and enemies think in such a way about the class you play.

We should all meet with our party heads and dance together....that's not lame i guess

Shut up cumeri because you dont even know of what are they talking about.

Just shut up.

[Znurre]

[cut...]Cumeri, only because I think a spell is cheap I do not think the ones who use it are lame, ok?
Heglin use South Cross all the time, he is one of the best knights I know.

I think being able to hit 255% damage each 6:th second, with no penalties is cheap.
I think boosting the damage of your friends with +50%, with no penalties for yourself is cheap.
I think pressing one button and go into god mode is cheap.

This have nothing to do with the players using it.
I didn't even name any particular player in my posts that I thought was lame, did I?
Why can't you just accept my opinions?

[Vroek]

I actually prefer blunt for fighting, simply because its alot easier against most classes (especialy mages, better than slashing against both marksmen and knights) and totaly superior to slashing in fort wars.

So im quite happy with my slashing 15/ blunt 19 setup

Picked slashing mostly because of its perks while grinding
only Ripost is better imo, but i refuse to wear a spear.

[Znurre]

I actually prefer blunt for fighting, simply because its alot easier against most classes (especialy mages, better than slashing against both marksmen and knights) and totaly superior to slashing in fort wars.

So im quite happy with my slashing 15/ blunt 19 setup

Picked slashing mostly because of its perks while grinding
only Ripost is better imo, but i refuse to wear a spear.I think our setups are about the same.
Only difference is I add 7 into both Slashing and Piercing to get both passives.

[ncvr]

@Aries
most locks rely on meteor....and soulkeep...
@sathi
get kathilda to 46 so i can spank her RAWR;D

sc is too much even in the hands of a knight...
My setup has neither meteor or sk. The last setup I used on my warlock was maxed elements, decent lvl mental and maxed necromancy but only lvl 5 vamp. And lvl 15 mana control, of course ;)

[CumeriTarenes]

Shut up cumeri because you dont even know of what are they talking about.

Just shut up.


Do You know what I am talking about?


I just feel that bad because I play an archer. People are saying bad thinks about archer, they say they destroy teamplay, they they playing an archer is lame...everybody can play an archer....there is no skill in playing an archer

It makes me feeling like an idiot since I play an archer. And it makes me sad when people think I am lame. And there is no difference between doing lame things and beeing lame, to say "you do lame things" is just a bit nicer than saying "You are lame because you do these things"

I am all for up to balance the classes, and I never asked for more power for my own class, and I never said sotw and all the absolute chance spells are ok. As a ranged class you suffer a lot from it, as well as you can profite. Deflecting barrier and wind wall are worst enemies for a ranged class. But however, a warrior cannot see this. Also I said it like 100 times that I as a makrsman feel quite useless very often because other classes can do my job as well. Only realy unique about marks is DS, which in fact is considered to be overpowered ( I think you shoud just change cooldown/duration ratio a bit because it is to long duration and duration=cooldown).
I cannot support my mates with auras or buffs, I cannot gain a single rp with this. I have to shoot on enemies to have an impact in war. For this I suffer a lot from high evade/resist/block too, as well as I profite for sure.

But, however, people are saying archer are the bad guys, and they are lame, unfair and destroy teamplay. That makes me, who I play an archer feeling bad. Sorry if you cannot understand this.
I started this game in october last year I think (the forum join date is not when I started with Cumeri). My marksman was my very first character, and I did not choose to play an archer because I knew he is best class or whatever. I knew nothing about the game and just started with an archer because I liked the pictures most. I put many hours in leveling this character and to learn to use it in war. Then NGD changed the rules and other's call me lame because I use skills that NGD gave me.

In fact there are no lame skills, there are just moments when it is lame to use a certain skill. MoD in 1v1 against other warlock for example. Camo under sotw in front of all enemies or ambush, confuse, sotw combo if not used to run away from enemy.

But to generalize and to say: "player who are playing archers (with evasion) are not skilled and destroy teamplay" hurts a lot if you play an archer by yourself. It makes me feeling bad if people judge me from what class I play.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Yeah right awd...wanna try?^^
I could try :p
there was a time I didn't use arcania


But anyway, according to AWD archers destroy teamplay
I'm not the one who said that :p

cumeri I understand you, but, you can always go the nonlame way like znurre did, and znurre is considered one of the best barbs out there.
I'm not saying "archers are lame" I'm saying that I think some archers are lame. Today I met a very easy hunter, killed his pet twice, he sotw and camoed (he even sotwned and camoed inside my mod >_<) when he wasn't under sotw half of my spells were evaded, I tried knocking him down, beetle swarming... heh nothing I could do really except waiting for him to not do a mistake, when he sotw'ed and camoed under mod I felt helpless because the only spell I could really rely on which would have an impact on him for sure, was bugged and he abused this somehow. If he was losing, np he ran away or camoed, np. I couldn't do a thing.
I think it's lame to run away, if you pick a fight, finish it off.

[DkySven]

The only PT warriors are barbarians with spears
afraid to go toe to toe with decent warrior i presume. :jacky_chun:
Spears are great to keep range yes, but also very useful in this time of fleeing. But for base damage hits I use hammers, they are way better.

[-Edge-]

I find a lvl 5 balestra more deadly than a lvl 5 ripost.

Oh also I was on yesterday for a war (3 FPS for the win) and I was seeing alot of the final spells, Typhoon, Thunder Strike, Lighting Strike, even when they were lvl 5 they weren't really succesful, well its a good close range area stun knockdown.

[BlooD]

Do You know what I am talking about?.

Yeah, and thats because you need to shut up because has nothing to do but what znurre is saying.

Znurre choose to not use SC because is not fun for him. Nothing more.

Instead of choosing the easy way, he configured his barb with another setup and he finds the fun figthing with it. Instead of being another clone barb he developed his own setup and learned to fight with it. Instead of being the nameless "barb 275 who uses SC" he is znurre and his hammer.

And if you instead of talking shit about him, understanded what finding fun in the difficult means, i am sure you understanded why he considers lame SC and evasion.

Because there is a easy way to play and a difficult one and znurre doesnt want to play the easy way. But you dont understanded it at all.

Thats why you need to shut up.

[CumeriTarenes]

Instead of choosing the easy way, he configured his barb with another setup and he finds the fun figthing with it.


ah, so using blunt is not the easy way, but why is that?

I actually prefer blunt for fighting, simply because its alot easier against most classes (especialy mages, better than slashing against both marksmen and knights) and totaly superior to slashing in fort wars.




And if you instead of talking shit about him, understanded what finding fun in the difficult means, i am sure you understanded why he considers lame SC and evasion.

I don't talk shit about him, I just expressed that I feel hurt when he talks about archers who use evasion, which is lame in his opinion. Evasion is sotw as well as acrobatic, mobility or whatever is in evasion tree.


Because there is a easy way to play and a difficult one and znurre doesnt want to play the easy way. But you dont understanded it at all.

Actually using blunt is more easy, as Vroek said...and znurre kind of agreed with this.

I don't mind which is the easy way, or if there is an easy way. But I do mind when someone says, everyone who uses another setup than oneself is doing it the easy way just to express how skilled he is. In fact skill in regnum online is determinated by lag in the first line. In my opionion it is lame to say a warrior who uses spears is lame. Maybe he uses spears because of positioning lag? Ever thought about this? Emilia Nighthaven, left the game some time ago, for example used spears. Why is that? Because she had a bad connection in asia...she most probably would never hit anyone with a hammer. But yeah, she choosed the easy way, and for this she played lame when I follow your argumentation.

I think it is quite ignorant to say this. No skill is lame, no setup is lame. And calling other classes, others player lame because they use the skills they have in a fair way is just unfait towards them...and it hurts the feeling of them.

And this is why I left Valhalla clan. Nothing more, it is nothing personal and I did not talk shit about znurre. But you talk shit about me when you say I have to shut up. Remember this is a forum, you talk to other human beeings...and saying to shut up is mean, very mean.


Another example: fluffy uses a lvl 17 evasion setup. Why is that? Because he wants to proof how skilled he is because he can fight without maxed evasion? No, it is because he has no points left for evasion lvl 19. He rather have lvl 19 scouting and pets and confuse I think. And guess what: When there would be a spell like SC in blunt znurre would use it too, but as far as I know he does not like to switch weapons. That is why he does not use SC...he prefers to have mindsquasher, piercing resistance and other good skills in blunt.
Neither his setup nor another setup is lame.

Actually I cannot hear the word "lame" anymore, it makes me sick when others talk about me and other players in this way.
Sure, everybody can have is opinion, but the right to say your own opinion ends when your opinion is mean towards others.

Think about it. End of dicussion for me.

[BlooD]

.......

I tried to do another post explaining again what znurre means.

But it will be useless.

So cumeri if other opinions hurt you go and hide yourself in a cave 5000m below the sea level and live there.

I am sure Znurre didnt talked about no one, only what he considers not funy ("lame") and what he will not use if he were archer.

But you leaved his clan for his lame opinion so now you are free to go to your cave and live a good and peacefully live where no one will say you his opinions.

Ah yeah. I almost forget it. The most lamest class is the evasion-marksman.

[Heglin]

I prefer this:

switch to fast weapon, cast DS, cast serpent bite, switch to slow bow and cast lethal strike...

it is lame and no skill...only skil is who is more handy with his keybord and mouse...not who thinks best wins, who switches weapons fastes wins

But actually especially for warriors weapon switching is a real basement of their setup

I suggested some time ago to change this. Look here http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum...ad.php?t=15506


Someone has a bad memory and imo Znurres post was'nt worse than this one.

Don't have a code that only other ppl have to follow.

Back on topic: Players use what skills they want and anyone has the right to have a opinion about those skills. I won't blame players, if i think a skill is lame that's NGDs fault imo.

[DkySven]

SC is a very strong spell, only it's balanced in the slashing tree. All 3 weapon trees have good spells, slashing has disable limb, south cross, typhoon, piercing has range, ripost and lightning strike and blunt has mind squasher, jaw breaker and high base damage.

South cross is a very strong spell, yes, but so is mind squasher, only the result of this spell is less measurable. SC gives a damage output, when you're buffs are removed it's harder to see how much that did kill you. You don't know if you'll kill someone faster with hammers(base damage) or spears(getting that last hit when someone runs away). I don't see SC as ovepowered.

[Hell_bound]

You know telling CT to "shut up" is rude...

I realize that many of you don't agree with his opinion, but attacking him is not the way...

CT, in all that I read, does not deserve to be attacked by you guys...

Besides, he has every right to speak his mind as much as you...

And in many ways I agree with what he is saying...

[misaccc]

/me is anxius to kill heg ;D

[Ironfoot]

That will be a cherished day!

I can't wait to laugh my ass off at all the pt barbs in Ignis that will suddenly disapear. Oh I gotta get the popcorn for that day.

i couldnt agree more.

[-Edge-]

No, the problem isn't that barbarians have naturally more strength. Let us ask the question why does SC influence such high damage? It is not the strength of the barbarian, it is the kay factor being the 2Handed weapon. The 2H weapons are the reason barbarians hit so high.

I suggest it would be better if spells in the 2H category were reverted to doing high damage, for instance now a Charge at lvl 1 shows 50 Slashing damage, so in my example Rend in the 2H category would do not 100% weapon damage, it would do something like 200 Slashing Damage at level 1.

If All skills in this game were reverted to fixed values, whereas now everything is in percents, the game would make more sense, and you would not have people hitting ridiculously high lucky hits.

The problem could be done with South Cross as well, Level 1, 150 Slashing damage, 50% chance to hit an additional 100 Slashing damage. As you level the spells it would be still, Level 2, 200 Slashing damage, 60% chance to do an additional 150 Slashing damage.

Etc etc, this is how the system works in other games like ive seen in Guild Wars. There are no percents, there is a fixed amount of damage.

The only problem in this kind of system might be dual skill trees that proffesions of the same class share.

[misaccc]

Fixed damage gets reduced ALOT...and as you stated shared trees also make a problem....

[Znurre]

Fixed damages would make many players way too similar.
The problem I see with South Cross is that it's way too cheap, I mean, come on, 6 seconds cooldown?

Also you can easily put 15 points into Slashing to get South Cross lvl 4, and still use the benefits of all other trees, like Mind Squasher in Blunt or Rippost in Piercing.

This skill would need to be moved higher in the Slashing tree so you need to put more points into it to reach it, so you can't have such a hybrid setup, that is the only way to prevent inbalance while still keeping the fun.

Add to this a higher cooldown and we are done.

[Envy]

Fixed damages would make many players way too similar.
The problem I see with South Cross is that it's way too cheap, I mean, come on, 6 seconds cooldown?

Also you can easily put 15 points into Slashing to get South Cross lvl 4, and still use the benefits of all other trees, like Mind Squasher in Blunt or Rippost in Piercing.

This skill would need to be moved higher in the Slashing tree so you need to put more points into it to reach it, so you can't have such a hybrid setup, that is the only way to prevent inbalance while still keeping the fun.

Add to this a higher cooldown and we are done.

Couldn't agree more.

[misaccc]

Moving sc up is gonna make slashing unpopular (again) to all the people who dont have it maxed...

[Inkster]

BACK ON TOPIC

mexican, good luck in your endevour to be the best barb in RO, you have a lot of competition out there from all 3 realms

[_dracus_]

I think our setups are about the same.
Only difference is I add 7 into both Slashing and Piercing to get both passives.

I also do that a lot :)
And back to the topic, I'm gonna be the best barb in regnum one day :)

[Inkster]

You know telling CT to "shut up" is rude....

As is calling someone Boy, Child or Fool ^^

[Aries202]

@Red i dont need to use sk on a warrior because half of the time he doesnt touch me..mind push...

SC there is not solution to this skill you remove it.. and what would happen to the knights that rely on SC unless you put it on vanguard but that wouldnt work because it only works with swords and axes... maybe giving archers and mages more defence against slashing....because these are that suffer more when is targeted with SC a mage can die with two SCs from a barb some times...and for an archer1k is basicly half its hp

[misaccc]

Sc is damn good...im not for removing it but it will be moved up in slash...im against it...but NGD do what they think is best...half of the time they are wrong...like now...slash will be abandoned again...but what do i care...

[-Edge-]

And to think this is where my SC discussion goes to :sifflote:

[Angelwinged_Devil]

sc should be reworked not removed it's too powerful that is true, sometimes I die in one hit from it >_< it's frustrating because I have no counter, I'm dead in 2 seconds, I remember that from a groupfight near pb, one barb south crossed me and I was dead 2350 damage(two archers firering at me too), beats me, nothing I could do about it. I was already casting sk when I saw the barb charging me but I was dead before I casted it

[GIGO305]

can i please make a best warju tread ^^ :metal:

good luck with that cabra ^^ i will be more than happy to wpn the best barb while pwning the most pt powered knight :guitar:

[Hydroxidee]

good luck on that.




[wth is cabra?!?!? :cuac: ]

[Znurre]

sc should be reworked not removed it's too powerful that is true, sometimes I die in one hit from it >_< it's frustrating because I have no counter, I'm dead in 2 seconds, I remember that from a groupfight near pb, one barb south crossed me and I was dead 2350 damage(two archers firering at me too), beats me, nothing I could do about it. I was already casting sk when I saw the barb charging me but I was dead before I casted itYes, yesterday at Aggers was horrible.
Apparently Yoseba hates me, as he seemed to be aiming for me 97% of the time.
I died by one of his crazy South Cross + Spiritual Blow combos almost each time.

The thing we must realize is that if we make South Cross too unattractive many people will drop slashing completely and go for blunt or piercing.
That wouldn't be good either.

[misaccc]

If sc is nerfed the way we talked about znurre,slash will be abandoned by most people...