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fluffy_muffin
08-05-2008, 07:32 PM
Enough is enough.
I quit till moving back will be restored to reasonable speed. I don't want be forced to play with sotw or with 5 lvl mobility or in tank mode. If NGD will not change it back then in 3 months i will remove all chars. Sorry but i can't stand it.
I am off from forum also.
Cheers.
Valour
08-05-2008, 07:36 PM
I agree, this is too much.
Before the change it was perfect, and fair, but now this really ruins it for me.
Nikor
08-05-2008, 07:44 PM
It is way too much. I agree with Valour that it was perfect as it was before (you already were slower).
I don't think I will play much longer with this.
misaccc
08-05-2008, 07:46 PM
cay and good luck...
Mellion
08-05-2008, 07:54 PM
same here, adios until that change is revoked.
Me as well.....thanks NGD your super :(
Twinkle1
08-05-2008, 08:03 PM
I may have to join you guys coz i dont think i can play like this.
They say...here, fight a warrior but I'm going to take away some of your movement capabilities and give you nothing in return. Yah....no thanks. I can occupy my time elsewhere.
Inkster
08-05-2008, 08:45 PM
yea thanks mages are the slowest class so why not put lead boots on em when they try to walk backwards...Oh you just did
Mikka
08-05-2008, 08:49 PM
Pffttttt!
Quit your whining.
Not only do I have the slow backwards movement problem like you, but when I walk forward I do it in a way that says "look at me, i'm sexy! please all you 12 y/o little pervs, make rude comments! I love it when you do that!."
If I'm going to walk/act sexy, it's when I fcuking want to, not when some perv geek developer who can't get laid at NGD decides I'm "supposed" to. It's demeaning, degrading and complete bulls!t.
Maybe they'll force all the guys to walk around like they're gay next! That will improve the game!
Gods, like there isn't enough broke crap to fix without making up dubious, unwanted changes.
:fury:
Thanks NGD for collectively calling me (and all the other girls) a slut and asking us to leave.
Emmery
08-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Me as well.....thanks NGD your super :(
Your quitting?! :O
I agree that it's pretty messed up :/
NGD WHY!?
chilko
08-05-2008, 09:10 PM
Mikka,
First of all, please try not to insult the developers who work at NGD.
we are trying to improve all of the animations in the game.
Regnum has a cartoon, comic feel to it, not a realistic artistic style...
If you look at the characters designs, all of them are stylized; specially female characters! (I don't know about your body type, but most women I know don't look like that, only models maybe)
I think you got used to the fact that we just had one animation for male and female, and women used to walk just like men, so your reaction is because of how this animation contrasts the other.
We used Motion-Capture references, and we did asked all the women working in our offices(5, including one artist) to comment if it was right, and not offensive.
We just can't believe that you find this offensive. Compared to other games Regnum is much more conservative in these matters, but having female characters walk as male characters was not a viable / attractive / realistic option.
Regards,
- Chilko
Your quitting?! :O
I agree that it's pretty messed up :/
NGD WHY!?
No, I've decided to just plague levelers. I won't get involved in big fights because all that will occur is the South Cross monkeys will rule. Now there's no way to escape their one-hit-kills. But....it's quite apparent that NGD doesn't really care about that...no, they'd rather remove the slight ability everyone had before to escape them.
So...I'll just kill em all while leveling. Now there's no realm chat so people can't disclose where I am.
padreigh
08-05-2008, 09:21 PM
We had a 50 vs 35 fight at aggers atm. The game lags, movement backwards is hampered, we cant call reinforcements. After dying 10 times i go off. No sense and fun in that - no money for NGD either.
Pizdzius
08-05-2008, 09:30 PM
well I don't think that a walking animation is sexist
I'd rather say that many female mobs in eg. WoW or Warhammer Online are sexist, with almost naked bodies. Yeah, I'd call that sexist.
ArcticWolf
08-05-2008, 10:05 PM
I think you got used to the fact that we just had one animation for male and female, and women used to walk just like men, so your reaction is because of how this animation contrasts the other.
So what about if you let the users choice the animation they want? I've not seen any other game where you could do that, but I guess it's not impossible. Different animations would give the game a very unique feeling, and you can't say you don't have the old movement captures and walk patterns.
Inkster
08-05-2008, 10:13 PM
Yea ive seen one online game where if a famale char wants to insult another char, she bends over and pats her butt in their face
CumeriTarenes
08-05-2008, 10:54 PM
How many people threadened NGD to leave after introducing fatique and new experience curce? And how many of them actually left the game?
People tend to overreact when new things they don't like are implemented.
chilko
08-05-2008, 10:56 PM
So what about if you let the users choice the animation they want? I've not seen any other game where you could do that, but I guess it's not impossible. Different animations would give the game a very unique feeling, and you can't say you don't have the old movement captures and walk patterns.
the previous animation just doesn't have the same level of quality, polish and detail as this one.
both animations just cannot co-exist.
Wyatt
08-05-2008, 10:58 PM
the previous animation just doesn't have the same level of quality, polish and detail as this one.
both animations just cannot co-exist.
What do you mean cannot co-exist? I have seeing many MMORPG that has different animations, you could had implemented this as a optional animations to the users.
Besides that, I did not see in the changelog anything about this, so you basically did not give US the users a chance to test this things, you could had saved you from getting this right now.
This game supposedly is developed based on users feedback, but i see completely the opposite to this.
Regards.
Bully
08-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Funny how NGD choose to reply to the put-down of the artistry and not comment at all on the original topic of the thread.
CumeriTarenes
08-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Sexist is that you can look beyond the skirt of female archers when they are in progress to rest. I just noticed some mins ago when I had a deeper study of movement of female characters in regnum.
Their walking: Hm...no. Nothing bad here.
backe
08-05-2008, 11:21 PM
...
:thumb_up: to what Katie, Bully, and jpicon said
Pizdzius
08-05-2008, 11:24 PM
yup. :thumb_up: from me too
Inkster
08-05-2008, 11:24 PM
:thumb_up: :thumb_up: :thumb_up: from me
-Paradox-
08-05-2008, 11:31 PM
Mikka,
First of all, please try not to insult the developers who work at NGD.
we are trying to improve all of the animations in the game.
Regnum has a cartoon, comic feel to it, not a realistic artistic style...
If you look at the characters designs, all of them are stylized; specially female characters! (I don't know about your body type, but most women I know don't look like that, only models maybe)
I think you got used to the fact that we just had one animation for male and female, and women used to walk just like men, so your reaction is because of how this animation contrasts the other.
We used Motion-Capture references, and we did asked all the women working in our offices(5, including one artist) to comment if it was right, and not offensive.
We just can't believe that you find this offensive. Compared to other games Regnum is much more conservative in these matters, but having female characters walk as male characters was not a viable / attractive / realistic option.
Regards,
- Chilko
Umm.... contradictory?
Pizdzius
08-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Thanks NGD for collectively calling me (and all the other girls) a slut and asking us to leave.
I think you're overreacting. I may be in no position to question your way of thinking because I am not a female, but hmm, all my female friends walk like that and they like to walk like that and HEY no one's calling them sluts.
if you'd get a nipple armour, wouldn't THAT be calling you slut? Because, many games have nipple armours and no girls are complaining.
Valour
08-05-2008, 11:52 PM
I also won't be playing for a while because I can't play the way I enjoy to play, with speed and the ability to move around. It penalizes my characters and style of play, so therefore I won't play until I am happy to do so.
Cheers NGD.
Valorius
08-05-2008, 11:55 PM
I have yet to log in, but they tried the SLOW walk backwards speed before and it was such a TOTAL disaster that they removed the change in about 48 hours.
With the massive damage of SC/Barbs- something that ALL players agree about, and something that you couldn't even be bothered to fix, how the hell could you nerf backwards moving speed?
Didn't you see the posts i posted about 28 blocks in ONE Pvp vs a knight? They're almost impossible for an archer to beat to begin with. And still shield pierce or the LB tree is totally unchanged even though we've been asking for action on that front for MONTHS.
To top it off you open a new server, keep us players completely in the dark about the details, don't offer any bonus XP to swap or allow character transfers, as if you expect that all these new english players are going to suddenly show up out of the blue. Because why let the english players that want to move their characters move, right? Nah, that would make too much sense.
What the hell are you people at NGD thinking?
I cannot comment on the female movements yet, but i do know that i do not want to walk around like some cheap slut. If it's as bad as many are saying here it is just one more self-inflicted wound that NGD will have created for itself. Hopefully it's not that bad.
But as a whole, perhaps it's WoW time again for me. I also just heard of another new MMO that's out, that Necrovaron_Syrtis has been playing and trying to get the daggers to go to. I think it's definitely time to check that one out.
Godofsilver
08-05-2008, 11:58 PM
I can freaking CRAWL backwards with my hands tied together faster than this!
@Val
If you do play WoW again, do it on the real servers, pick the realm "Nazjatar", and join the Horde... then I won't need to fight you :D
magnet
08-06-2008, 12:01 AM
Personally I think those changes are very good but there are still some problems. A few patches ago, the "out of range" distance was changed to 'skill range'+a few meters (instead of skill range only), now it will be very hard with the backward speed to cancel incoming spells such as Terrors, and it was a valid AND intelligent tactic (ah good times, when there was still some tactics in this game!). The solution is to put the out of range to what it was previously (no "extra" meters).
Other than that, the backwards speed change is very good. Another similar possibility, without changing the default backwards speed, would have been to make sure speed altering buffs (passive or not) don't affect backwards walking.
I personally find it very funny to read all the archers whining :). Good job NGD! The current game design is certainly completely fucked up in my mind, with a critically high influence of luck and no interesting new content whatsoever, but this is certainly a move in the right direction.
Though I'm sad we won't be able to dance anymore, going backwards.
Good job!
Pizdzius
08-06-2008, 12:06 AM
I can freaking CRAWL backwards with my hands tied together faster than this!
that is most certainly disturbing that I thought exact same words but in polish about 20 minutes ago
I personally find it very funny to read all the archers whining :).
I am playing as a conjurer
Personally I think those changes are very good but there are still some problems. A few patches ago, the "out of range" distance was changed to 'skill range'+a few meters (instead of skill range only), now it will be very hard with the backward speed to cancel incoming spells such as Terrors, and it was a valid AND intelligent tactic (ah good times, when there was still some tactics in this game!). The solution is to put the out of range to what it was previously (no "extra" meters).
Other than that, the backwards speed change is very good. Another similar possibility, without changing the default backwards speed, would have been to make sure speed altering buffs (passive or not) don't affect backwards walking.
I personally find it very funny to read all the archers whining :). Good job NGD! The current game design is certainly completely fucked up in my mind, with a critically high influence of luck and no interesting new content whatsoever, but this is certainly a move in the right direction.
Though I'm sad we won't be able to dance anymore, going backwards.
Good job!
Hm, so you don't like how luck based it is.. But you commend them removing one element of player control. Perfect sense.
Valour
08-06-2008, 12:07 AM
I find this to be a problem on mages too, not just archers.
I love to run around when fighting, and it's particularly difficult as we need to try and face our allies in order to heal and move around accordingly and quickly in order to survive.
Also I can move pretty fast backwards in real life, I don't look constipated and go at a snails pace, sweet realism.
Valorius
08-06-2008, 12:09 AM
I can move VERY fast in reverse in real life. I can also jump and sidestep too.
Once again NGD has completely dropped the ball.
magnet
08-06-2008, 12:09 AM
Hm, so you don't like how luck based it is.. But you commend them removing one element of player control. Perfect sense.
I'm talking about general game design. It made no sense whatsoever for players to fight running backwards. Since Archers are the most affected, please tell me, how many Archers had Winter Stroke lv 4 or 5?
Because they didn't need it with all the speed. Archers are so spoiled in this game they lost all common sense, this is a change for everyone, but obviously the very fact that it affects only one class to that proportion show how stupid the whole thing was.
Pizdzius
08-06-2008, 12:09 AM
sweet realism.
but Kailer said it's a comic/fantasy game! Then he added the female walking wasn't realistic
(im sorry kailer, i know you didn't made this changes, but you do speak in their name!)
Angel_de_Combate
08-06-2008, 12:10 AM
OMFG...What did i miss..ive been out all day and most of the night :/???
Pizdzius
08-06-2008, 12:10 AM
but obviously the very fact that it affects only one class
obviously you see only black and white
magnet
08-06-2008, 12:11 AM
Also I can move pretty fast backwards in real life, I don't look constipated and go at a snails pace, sweet realism.
Can you shoot arrows instantly in real life too? (I can understand that you recharge while moving, but people have to aim).
Don't start the "real life" comparisons talk :).
I'm talking about general game design. It made no sense whatsoever for players to fight running backwards. Since Archers are the most affected, please tell me, how many Archers had Winter Stroke lv 4 or 5?
Because they didn't need it with all the speed. Archers are so spoiled in this game they lost all common sense, this is a change for everyone, but obviously the very fact that it affects only one class to that proportion show how stupid the whole thing was.
It affects every ranged class IMO. I'd forgotten how anti-archer you are, so I kind of feel no point continuing to discuss this with you =/
magnet
08-06-2008, 12:12 AM
obviously you see only black and white
Obviously you can't read.
The following part of the quote was "to that proportion". Mages aren't affected nearly as much by the change. Of course they are, but to a far lesser extent.
It affects every ranged class IMO. I'd forgotten how anti-archer you are, so I kind of feel no point continuing to discuss this with you =/
I don't think being pro-balance equals with anti-archer. I'd be anti-whatever overbalanced class. Anyway, I played both Marks and Hunter, and running backwards with Escapist at +50% (with my Hunter) was really a joke. Even without Escapist, it always was too much. But feel free not to continue discussing this with me ;)
aric_swartzell
08-06-2008, 12:15 AM
It still surprises me that people still put up with this bullshit and continue playing. This game to me is a glaring example of what I hate about proprietary software development. This game stopped being "community driven development" long ago. NGD will continue to alienate it's userbase, continue to add features that are detrimental to gameplay and continue to increase costs to play properly. Regnum has what is known as a high turnover rate. That is most unfortunate because once, long ago I had good faith that this game would be great. I once stood up for the actions of NGD, believing that things would get better and they had only the best intentions in mind. I was a fool to believe that a software company has anything but profit margins on its mind. Only willing to do the bare minimum to keep the userbase out of discontent long enough for them to dole out some green. I feel for all those people that have spent countless amounts of money on a game that has become increasingly less enjoyable. I'm just glad I saw though the bullshit in time to realize i'd only be wasting my money.
Pizdzius
08-06-2008, 12:16 AM
It still surprises me that people still put up with this bullshit and continue playing. This game to me is a glaring example of what I hate about proprietary software development. This game stopped being "community driven development" long ago. NGD will continue to alienate it's userbase, continue to add features that are detrimental to gameplay and continue to increase costs to play properly. Regnum has what is known as a high turnover rate. That is most unfortunate because once, long ago I had good faith that this game would be great. I once stood up for the actions of NGD, believing that things would get better and they had only the best intentions in mind. I was a fool to believe that a software company has anything but profit margins on its mind. Only willing to do the bare minimum to keep the userbase out of discontent long enough for them to dole out some green. I feel for all those people that have spent countless amounts of money on a game that has become increasingly less enjoyable. I'm just glad I saw though the bullshit in time to realize i'd only be wasting my money.
I guess some of us still had the hope
BlooD
08-06-2008, 12:19 AM
I dont like this change because as many people said i just can be quiet while i figth, if the point its to get in range and then movemens 0 to be a impressive battle of who resist/evades more i just go to play rock/paper/scissors.
This is like the "hit in movement" feature, only helps people who only clicks the skills and when thye see 5 you are not in range messages they walk a little more forward.
There is a lot of things who help the kite with mobs, i dont know why this helps in pvp to anyone, because this is only to difficult the grind, forget about classes balance.
Valour
08-06-2008, 12:20 AM
Don't start the "real life" comparisons talk :).
My only other real life comparison is that I don't want to login due to bullshit and therefore my chars wont be used :)
magnet
08-06-2008, 12:22 AM
It still surprises me that people still put up with this bullshit and continue playing. This game to me is a glaring example of what I hate about proprietary software development. This game stopped being "community driven development" long ago. NGD will continue to alienate it's userbase, continue to add features that are detrimental to gameplay and continue to increase costs to play properly. Regnum has what is known as a high turnover rate. That is most unfortunate because once, long ago I had good faith that this game would be great. I once stood up for the actions of NGD, believing that things would get better and they had only the best intentions in mind. I was a fool to believe that a software company has anything but profit margins on its mind. Only willing to do the bare minimum to keep the userbase out of discontent long enough for them to dole out some green. I feel for all those people that have spent countless amounts of money on a game that has become increasingly less enjoyable. I'm just glad I saw though the bullshit in time to realize i'd only be wasting my money.
I agree with you, only I never thought it would ever be a "great game". I candidly thought it would become a "good" game, that is a simple game good at what it does. It always lacked originality, but at least it came with a native GNU/Linux client. At one point the game variables were good, the game was fun, but the client wasn't nearly ready. Now that the client is getting better (really slowly), the game variables are messed up and people have nothing to look for. Invasions could be fun, but not "real fun". I'd enjoy much more improved strategy, realm balance, class balance and for some classes full redesign, and player-made strongs/buildings.
But I guess NGD is working on something (they said so), so we will have to wait and see. I'm just afraid that what they may find exciting is very far from what I find exciting :).
Godofsilver
08-06-2008, 12:28 AM
I thought that this game would be a decent game, if they got lucky it would do something nice....
I thought that the community was strong, the players were ready and the programmers were actually listening to us!...
Seems that the community is the only good thing this game has to offer now
EDIT:
OMFG...What did i miss..ive been out all day and most of the night :/???Think of walking backwards.
Now think of crawling.
Now think of a snail.
You'll be close.
NGD made it so you WALK backwards instead of run.
Personally, I'd be motivated enough to run, leap and bounce backwards if I was being attacked.
_dracus_
08-06-2008, 12:35 AM
Like magnet I found it funny all the whining. But I think it's not a good move. I logged in my 3 main chars. And 2 of them were harder to play. Barbarian, and Warlock. With dracus I don't know I spent my time running around pinos where I couldn't see any door and couldn't enter because they're was a door.
Valorius
08-06-2008, 12:47 AM
"Whining"?
Cuz this is what's called FEEDBACK.
I can't believe i'm tempted to give negative rep to one of my own top warriors. :-/
CumeriTarenes
08-06-2008, 12:55 AM
"Whining"?
Cuz this is what's called FEEDBACK.
well yes, it's a bit too much of negative feedback. I see nobody talking about the good new things like fort status on map, like choosing respawn point and messages about fort beeing attacked. When you give feedback you should do so about all changes, not just about what you don`t like.
However, all the positive changes were know by us before. NGD even "promoted" them to us in the "road to evasion" threads. But they never talked about other changes nor where they on test server before. That's a point NGD has to work: tell the community about all (or noone, but not just the
good ones) upcomming changes before an update.
I can't believe i'm tempted to give negative rep to one of my own top warriors. :-/
You own him? How much did you pay? :p
Valorius
08-06-2008, 01:02 AM
well yes, it's a bit too much of negative feedback. I see nobody talking about the good new things like fort status on map
Um, we are giving feedback on THAT SPECIFIC POINT, did you read the thread title, or are you just being good ole company man Cumeri as usual?
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT WALKING BACKWARDS, it is NOT about fort status on map.
If you want to discuss that, START A THREAD. Your post is off-topic, and should be deleted.
CumeriTarenes
08-06-2008, 01:19 AM
Um, we are giving feedback on THAT SPECIFIC POINT, did you read the thread title, or are you just being good ole company man Cumeri as usual?
THIS THREAD IS ABOUT WALKING BACKWARDS, it is NOT about fort status on map.
If you want to discuss that, START A THREAD. Your post is off-topic, and should be deleted.
why do you scream at me?
I did not talk only about this thread. There are many threads about running backward but noone about any positive changes. So the community at the whole (me included) just gives feedback to all negative points in a quite excessive way that it can be understood as whining.
btw, this post is also off topic...like the post my previous post referred to.
Angelwinged_Devil
08-06-2008, 01:28 AM
Pffttttt!
Quit your whining.
Not only do I have the slow backwards movement problem like you, but when I walk forward I do it in a way that says "look at me, i'm sexy! please all you 12 y/o little pervs, make rude comments! I love it when you do that!."
If I'm going to walk/act sexy, it's when I fcuking want to, not when some perv geek developer who can't get laid at NGD decides I'm "supposed" to. It's demeaning, degrading and complete bulls!t.
Maybe they'll force all the guys to walk around like they're gay next! That will improve the game!
Gods, like there isn't enough broke crap to fix without making up dubious, unwanted changes.
:fury:
Thanks NGD for collectively calling me (and all the other girls) a slut and asking us to leave.
then again, how often do people walk in this game :p?
It's sad to see people go, how does htis look at the spanish section as we know ngd mostly looks there
spartan27583
08-06-2008, 01:34 AM
I thought that this game would be a decent game, if they got lucky it would do something nice....
I thought that the community was strong, the players were ready and the programmers were actually listening to us!...
Seems that the community is the only good thing this game has to offer now
Man...I am gone for 27 hours due to a delay on my trip...come onto the forums for the first time in ages...and what do I see?
Complaints. People quitting. In other words, Ngd not caring as much for the players as they should be.
But I agree with God of silver and aric. When I first joined regnum I was thinking...meh...seems like a pretty good game. I did not care that no one spoke english (gave me a reason to practice my spanish skills). There was no lag. I leveled up at a pretty good pace compared to other games...
For a while, I thought that this was the best game there was. Better than WoW. I played wow, shaiya, flyff, silkroad online, cabal, 2moons, guild wars, exteel, mabinogi, and many other games but I always ended up coming back to regnum.
But then things started going downhill...
I think it might have happened when ngd introduced fatigue. Or maybe it was when ngd hired so many new people. In retrospect, I suppose it does not matter when it happened or how, fact is, it happened. Regnum started to suck. Bugs became more common in every update (do the developers even check their own work?). Lag increased ( I have high speed dsl at home, and I still lag pretty bad in fort wars, I wonder if people on dial-up can even play this game). Ngd started making excuses. I remember reading about how a developer (chiko, I believe) apologized to katiechan that they can't do too much since they come from a poor country or something (I tried looking for the thread, but couldn't find it :( )
Well...fatigue hit, and I decided to take a break from regnum. I journeyed far and wide, tried out many games, and spent time crawling through forums. When I returned to regnum, a couple fault began to become a little more obvious. For one thing, regnum only is the only game where I have run into people saying "support <game company's name here>, buy premium". Ngd, needs us (well, our money, at least, dunno if they really do care about us...). Also, the people who support NGD (and I mean really support them) are still getting plagued by lag, crashes, bugs...etc... Why do they still believe? Perhaps they are thinking back on regnum's glory days (you know, that time when fatigue was just a joke, lag didn't exist, and crashes were not an epidemic). I dunno about the greater part of the community of regnum (which is still probably the nicest community I have ever run into), but you guys, think about it...does NGD deserve your loyalty? Your time? Your money? I don't believe that they deserve my money, its why I will never buy premium. I play regnum just to talk to the nicest damn community I have every met in a game. A community that is being preyed upon by a game company. Other game companies are successful (from what I have seen) because they know that if they sell a high-quality basic version of the game, people may spend money to buy premium items to enhance their gameplay. Things like: hair styles, cool looking armor/weapon sets (that don't break the game), potions that improve a specific stat permanently (although there is a limit to the number you can buy) marks for your guild (which are displayed next to your guild's name), as well as premium pets and mounts. Premium games usually have premium items that people buy to emboss their characters. Not regnum. Here the developers think they are clever and believe that rather than rather than make the premium items speak for themselves, NGD here messes with the game itself and forces the common player to buy premium. Anyone else notice that xp scrolls are not affected by fatigue, and that horses run so damn fast? Why was fatigue inplemented? High server costs and because ngd was looking out for the health of its players since it is not healthy to play games for a long time...for free. They saw a way to make money, and they took it, knowing full well that their loving players with spend money on the game they adore.
Other games also advertise...on a lot of sites (*cough cough rapplez, WoW, mabinogi cough cough*)... Regnum spreads by word-or-mouth, (or in my case, by super bored people surfing the web for something to do, and suddenly finding regnum).
I don't like the direction this game is going. I don't like how ngd has been behaving. I don't like it when people who first discover this game think..."hey I can play as long as I want for free!" and then come into this game and realize, yes they can play as long as they want, but they probably wouldn't want to play such a slow-paced, laggy, buggish game. All in all, regnum has a great community and a great pvp concept (realm versus realm, ingenious), but is a game help together by the patience and faith of the common player, and the fact that their friends play regnum too.
I have noticed that since fatigue has been introduced I have been playing less and less regnum. I suppose I must thank ngd for something...they broke my regnum addiction...and I am thankful... I just hope one day they will find a way to make money without making their game unbearable to play.
I will say I am quitting regnum, but I know eventually I will pop into the game, just to check up on my clanmates...and to see if they are alright.
So... I don't quit...but I will just spend almost no time in regnum, which in the end, accomplished what I wanted it to do when I first joined...
it took up my free time, introduced me to a lot of nice people (as well as not-so-nice people), taught me addiction, and showed me that no game is worth spending money on. Good-bye for now...
PS: I really wonder if ngd reads more than the first line or two of a couple of threads in the forums. I doubt they will bother rereading this tread again. Hell, I bet they don't even read the suggestions section...
Now though, I believe that they may start reading threads more often...just to give the illusion that they read all of them...Ciao for now...
Angelwinged_Devil
08-06-2008, 01:39 AM
Man...I am gone for 27 hours due to a delay on my trip...come onto the forums for the first time in ages...and what do I see?
Complaints. People quitting. In other words, Ngd not caring as much for the players as they should be.
But I agree with God of silver and aric. When I first joined regnum I was thinking...meh...seems like a pretty good game. I did not care that no one spoke english (gave me a reason to practice my spanish skills). There was no lag. I leveled up at a pretty good pace compared to other games...
For a while, I thought that this was the best game there was. Better than WoW. I played wow, shaiya, flyff, silkroad online, cabal, 2moons, guild wars, exteel, mabinogi, and many other games but I always ended up coming back to regnum.
But then things started going downhill...
this also sums up how I feel about this game, devs would listen to us, it would be a great game with lots of action in it and lots of gameplay between players and not boring mobslaying (aka pve)
things slowly started going downhill after beta when evades became more common, lag became worse, more bugs were introduced...
Bully
08-06-2008, 01:57 AM
Raisin Pie for Spartan. Truer words were never spoken.
makarios68
08-06-2008, 02:01 AM
Funny how NGD choose to reply to the put-down of the artistry and not comment at all on the original topic of the thread.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
The slow backward motion defies good sense and should be put back to what it was immediately.
I played all my chars tonight and started a mage on the new server, and i can tell you that it is bad for all classes, and not just archers.
Fort fights are a joke, with the retreating army moving like snails.
Tactical retreats are a part of any war, but never would you expect an army to retreat as slowly as that...
makarios68
08-06-2008, 02:15 AM
Other than that, the backwards speed change is very good. Another similar possibility, without changing the default backwards speed, would have been to make sure speed altering buffs (passive or not) don't affect backwards walking.
I personally find it very funny to read all the archers whining :). Good job NGD! The current game design is certainly completely fucked up in my mind, with a critically high influence of luck and no interesting new content whatsoever, but this is certainly a move in the right direction.
Good job!
Magnet, i always have a lot of respect for what you have to say, but you are completely wrong here.
This is not a good change, for anybody.
I don't believe it affects archers more than other classes.
They are not the only ones to face s/c barbs.
It is just as bad for a mage or another warrior when they have to move backwards like a snail as an express train with an axe hurtles towards them...
Valorius
08-06-2008, 03:56 AM
why do you scream at me?
Because you annoy the hell out of me. Seriously though, caps are not screaming, they are for emphasis.
This reverse speed change won't stand. Mages are totally defenseless in a 1 vs 1 against a hunter now- it is childs play to stay out of their attack arcs and make them waste spell after spell. No way that will be allowed to stand. (I won't even start on the ridiculously slow rotation speed of characters- it takes 4 seconds to spin 360 degrees, hahaha, THAT's realistic....not)
This change TOTALLY screws over mages, most of all. And the SC monkeys totally benefit.
The most overpowered subclass/setup in the game BEFORE the change just got WAY stronger.
Hahahah, i wonder if anyone at NGD even plays the game. It sure seems like they don't.
ArcticWolf
08-06-2008, 04:10 AM
the previous animation just doesn't have the same level of quality, polish and detail as this one.
both animations just cannot co-exist.
What do you think about polishing the older one? Again, it would be a nice option to have a more custom character, since walking/running is one of the things you do more often in game.
Valorius
08-06-2008, 04:16 AM
I honestly see no difference at all in the new walking animation.
spartan27583
08-06-2008, 06:21 AM
Looks like everyone does not like the new update either...
I wonder if ngd will even look at this thread again...
Anyway...honest answers people...what are the chances that ngd will reverse this update? Will they re-add realm chat? Bring up the speed of backwards running? Start listening to the community? I think most are unlikely...
CumeriTarenes
08-06-2008, 06:27 AM
Looks like everyone does not like the new update either...
I wonder if ngd will even look at this thread again...
You can be sure, that NGD reads every post in the forums. Suggestions are even marked as read by NGD. They realy much improved in community interaction since gamemod/kailer started to moderate the forums.
Look here:
It seems that everyone thinks that we don't read or as it has been said around "we don't care a rat's ass about what you think", but I must say that it isn't like that.
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?t=28191
I think your post was one of the reasons why Kailer posted this.
-Paradox-
08-06-2008, 06:51 AM
For those who say only the archers or even ranged classes whine you're wrong. I am a barbarian and I disagree with slow walking backwards rate also. A good PvP with a barb requires alot of running around and going back and forth otherwise it would be awefully boring just standing there hitting which determines who ever has more strength and stronger weapon will win no matter what setup they use. Now though that has what it has become. And how easy is it now to kill those mages who have next to no defence? Even hunters with high evasion rate are easy to kill for me. This is a incredibly bad change to say at the least.
spartan27583
08-06-2008, 07:04 AM
Yeah, I read that thread too. As usual it starts with NGD assuring us that...things are good...we care...don't leave us...
In other words, excuses...excuses...and more excuses...
Where is the action? Actions speak louder than words, and all I see is excuses.
What I want to see is NGD getting rid of some of the ill-received (to put it lightly) updates. Maybe then I might...maybe start believing in ngd again...
or maybe not.
Valorius
08-06-2008, 08:20 PM
They fixed it, so to NGD i say thanks, and to Fluffy i say, "Welcome back."
Pizdzius
08-06-2008, 08:59 PM
They fixed it, so to NGD i say thanks, and to Fluffy i say, "Welcome back."
seems like NGD isn't acting like staff from Age of Conan.
They ban people for everything, even killing in PvP. So I think if they admitted it wasn't too good for us, it means, they are great people who listen :)
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