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Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 03:20 AM
I've found a website with paedophilia content held in a very popular community web called Comic Genesis. I flamed it, broke it for a bit. I tried, but failed to report in the right place. What do I have to do to ban such obscene website?

Comp
09-17-2008, 03:27 AM
It all depends on the laws within your country. In the end the only thing you can do is contact your ISP with the address and they can filter the IP.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 03:32 AM
It all depends on the laws within your country. In the end the only thing you can do is contact your ISP with the address and they can filter the IP.

The website is located in the US severs afaik so the laws are pretty obvious in each state
How can contacting my ISP help? They do service only in my country. Is there any website I can report that content to?

Hydroxidee
09-17-2008, 03:37 AM
Contact the FBI. They handle that kind of stuff.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 03:46 AM
Contact the FBI. They handle that kind of stuff.

i think that'd be too much :p

Hydroxidee
09-17-2008, 03:57 AM
No really. FBI deals with internet related offences. All the way from hacking to child molestation. (Which is what that word means doesnt it?? Or does Wikipedia lie??)

phoenix_jackson
09-17-2008, 04:00 AM
I've lost my faith with the Law Enforcers. I'd rather ignore them all.

ArcticWolf
09-17-2008, 05:15 AM
The first step is to call your local police department. They should call the FBI and the government should take care of all the legal process. You can also go to the american embassy and tell them about the site.

Hydroxidee
09-17-2008, 05:24 AM
The first step is to call your local police department. They should call the FBI and the government should take care of all the legal process. You can also go to the american embassy and tell them about the site.

^^My response more in depth. <3 Xeph.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 10:29 AM
The first step is to call your local police department. They should call the FBI and the government should take care of all the legal process. You can also go to the american embassy and tell them about the site.

Won't that look weird if I report a manga comic for that? :S Won't they scan my computer too and find out my uh pirated windows for example? xD

Static_Fang
09-17-2008, 10:48 AM
Won't that look weird if I report a manga comic for that? :S Won't they scan my computer too and find out my uh pirated windows for example? xD

Well just say u got it from a friend in australia >.>

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 11:19 AM
Maybe I should send a letter from hidden IP. So to american embassy I write a formal letter in english? That'd be hard, specially about a comic :S

phoenix_jackson
09-17-2008, 11:34 AM
Given with time, patience, and hope, a formal letter would be better if you want to keep yourself anonymous. But remember to be really persistent to be noticed.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 11:43 AM
Given with time, patience, and hope, a formal letter would be better if you want to keep yourself anonymous. But remember to be really persistent to be noticed.

I'm not good with that :/
Maybe I should contact local media and ask them for help

phoenix_jackson
09-17-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm not good with that :/
Maybe I should contact local media and ask them for help

And there you have answered your own question!!!!:clapping5365:

I have more faith in the media than law enforcers when it comes to these matters.
Just make sure you approach the aggressive ones and not just some DJ.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 12:31 PM
atm I contacted server hosting service and server's city government :p
no room for paedo propaganda!

Eli2
09-17-2008, 02:05 PM
If it's only drawn and not real photos, they are legal afaik.
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b0/Pedobear_23.jpg

Edit:
Pedophile Beards (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15S0g8pG6HU)

gooner3
09-17-2008, 02:30 PM
ecpat.com might be one way to go..

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 03:41 PM
If it's only drawn and not real photos, they are legal afaik.

Nope. Content visual or written is illegal.

-Edge-
09-17-2008, 03:45 PM
It falls under piracy definatly,

The FBI handles these kinds of things, ( Note: About anonomity, its usualy best to not go with it, in a case like this someone would think you worked with them actually, and you turned them in, at least thats how I think it works :p )

Just be truthful, best to bring it up to a police station, and chances are they will either take care of it themselves, or give you further information on how to contact the FBI with the case yourself.

You have nothing to fear if your doing good :p

The first step is to call your local police department. They should call the FBI and the government should take care of all the legal process. You can also go to the american embassy and tell them about the site.

OFT:

Well at least in MY experience id say the Polish Police and Ambulances are very slow, one time this guy busted his whole leg open because he fell off a tram, he was drunk (no wai) and you know when your under the infulence your blood pressure shoots up, (meaning its just easy to bust a vein open) gah ok, anyway someone called the ambulance, and it took them about 45 minutes to get there. Same thing another time when I was coming out of the grocery store, some Grandma fell on her face (and all the other old people were just looking like OMG, because old people are obsessed with gossip) so I wanted to help her and called the ambulance, she was laying there on the group face first, and when someone wanted to go help her she started screaming go away. So its been a good 20 minutes, and she just gets up by herself and walks away, the ambulance probably came half an hour later, "WHERES THE PROBLEM!?"

Ok now to the police they work the same way, the vandalism in my city is so bad, theres no nightwatch or anything, anyway I was walking home from school and got shot 3 times by a cap gun. It tore a hole in my shirt and got imprinted in my arm. Anyway I got home called the police, hour later they come and ask me what happened.

Eli2
09-17-2008, 05:11 PM
Nope. Content visual or written is illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartoon_Pornography#Cartoon_pornography_depicting_ minors_or_under-aged_children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon#Legal_issues_elsewhere

The legal status of those pictures depends heavily on the country they are stored in and the country they are viewed from.

You also might have already committed a crime by simply watching those pictures depending on your jurisdiction.

BlooD
09-17-2008, 05:15 PM
Yep eli is rigth, lolicon and such pervert things are not forbidden in many countries.

I mean, if 4chan and 2ch are still alive is for something.

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 06:38 PM
Actually the server location containing the images is in a state where any visuals are illegal

Eli it seems you're on the opposite side... xD

BlooD
09-17-2008, 06:49 PM
Actually the server location containing the images is in a state where any visuals are illegal

Eli it seems you're on the opposite side... xD

So after seeing all this when we start with the disccussion of:

Is the lolicon pedophilia? It has to be punished?

If you ask me, no. Each one can get horny what whoever he wants, getting horny with childs is something sick and makes me want to puke.

But if they are not hurting anyone, let them do whatever they want, if he touch a child, well better if they know how to run fast because i will be the first one who will want to break his skull.

Eli2
09-17-2008, 07:53 PM
Eli it seems you're on the opposite side... xD
No i am from the internet. ^^

Pizdzius
09-17-2008, 08:23 PM
No i am from the internet. ^^

I believe you're from Germany

Pizdzius
09-19-2008, 10:54 AM
Detective from place where server is held answered my mails. :D it's great to know that someone actually cares

phoenix_jackson
09-19-2008, 11:48 AM
Detective from place where server is held answered my mails. :D it's great to know that someone actually cares

Wow! So there is hope after all.:clapping5365:

Nice job, Piz. Go pawn 'em all:gun_bandana:

Torg_Snowflake
09-19-2008, 12:27 PM
Images might be legal, but if a sinlge post in the forum states "kid pr0n roxxs" (or anything like that) and the adminst don't moderate it, then they are in favor. The crime is not the images, but "promoting" the crime. It's like putting gigant signs that state "F*** kids, it's hip!"

Pizdzius
09-19-2008, 02:59 PM
When the certain image was drawn, whole community (few thousand people) screamed with joy and demand more. How could I not call it paedophilia promotion? :P

Torg_Snowflake
09-19-2008, 03:24 PM
When the certain image was drawn, whole community (few thousand people) screamed with joy and demand more. How could I not call it paedophilia promotion? :P

Well, it's quite a serious crime... and all those people can be put in jail... Using the internet might feel like it doesn't have concecuences, but pedophilia promotion it's a biggie. 5 years min I would say...

ArcticWolf
09-19-2008, 07:24 PM
Images might be legal, but if a sinlge post in the forum states "kid pr0n roxxs" (or anything like that) and the adminst don't moderate it, then they are in favor. The crime is not the images, but "promoting" the crime. It's like putting gigant signs that state "F*** kids, it's hip!"

That's "apología del delito" in Spanish, but since I can't find a translation I guess it doesn't exist in USA.

Pizdzius
09-19-2008, 09:29 PM
well i've done what I could. I wish such people had lobotomy for the certain interests. I can't do anything more in the internet. At least im not challenging 4chan :P if I ever collide such people IRL I will be sure to make their lifes a hell. Just like what they do to some young lifes.

I guess this can be dropped now, thank you for your help people. I was really not sure where to call or head for help ^^ you're the greatest even when it comes to such serious shit. Praise the community

Static_Fang
09-20-2008, 08:53 AM
well i've done what I could. I wish such people had lobotomy for the certain interests. I can't do anything more in the internet. At least im not challenging 4chan :P if I ever collide such people IRL I will be sure to make their lifes a hell. Just like what they do to some young lifes.

I guess this can be dropped now, thank you for your help people. I was really not sure where to call or head for help ^^ you're the greatest even when it comes to such serious shit. Praise the community

Hey, he said community, that means me to!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO!