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LenaRosemberg
09-27-2008, 10:28 PM
I've seen today the rank "OoD rapist of middlefinger". It's a poor taste clan name but I don't care. I don't care that people thinks our clan is so great and important that it's such an honor to refer to it on a rank. But I find "rapist" offensive. "Killer" or "Destroyer" would be ok for me.
(Sorry for yet another thread about freedom of speach vs respect for everyone).
StoryTeller
09-27-2008, 10:48 PM
I apologize, Lena.
However, our Psychological Warfare division suggested that choosing such names will provide excellent distraction for those who would likely be offended. We have withheld more offensive names, in favor of names that used common-nonprofane-language.
Enjoy Raping the Rapist. As one member of you clanmembers mentioned so.
:swordfight:
LenaRosemberg
09-27-2008, 11:56 PM
I didn't cry.
I didn't think that feeling or expressing emotions are weaknesses. However, I find being afraid to express or to feel them a true sign of weakness.
It's funny when spammers with so much more posts than me who have nothing more interesting to do than posting about a no-life post ask me to get a life.
I have a life, I don't only play Regnum or post here. Sometimes I go to IRC too or play WoW.
Mikan
09-28-2008, 12:02 AM
I agree with Lena. This is excessive, and not something I want to see when I log into the game. It doesn't matter how I feel about Order of Daggers, but rather how I feel about people who are bad to others.
It's uncalled for, especially considering that the clan as a whole is rather nice people.
I hope you are not judging an entire clan by Valorius' example, whether he leads it or not. Because that would be perhaps the most arrogant and stupid thing I have ever seen in the game.
But then, there has been a dramatic increase of people behaving like this in recent months.
Regards,
Knife
09-28-2008, 12:10 AM
I don't seem to understand...Someone's rank was OoD rapist? Then why do you persecute him? He doesn't mean he is going to thrust his genitals up places you don't want. He means he is going to kill you.
No offense intended.
LenaRosemberg
09-28-2008, 12:21 AM
If he wanted to say he's going to kill us, OoD Killer would have been perfect :)
InsektO
09-28-2008, 12:35 AM
Use the proper mail for reporting abuse (abuse@ngdstudios.com.ar). NGD will eventually decide if the mentioned clan rank is offensive (according to what they consider "offensive") or not.
Ironfoot
09-28-2008, 12:55 AM
I have a life, I don't only play Regnum or post here. Sometimes I go to IRC too or play WoW.
Aha, so basically you just buried yourself here.
_dracus_
09-28-2008, 01:12 AM
I don't feel the same than Lena about this, but I'm not a girl. I never feared to be raped.
However your psycological warfare seems to work very well, we killed all MiddleFingerer we saw today xD
I hope Sanity love his rank because we love to attack him xD
Miraculix
09-28-2008, 01:13 AM
Aha, so basically you just buried yourself here.
ROFL xD
Epic Win :D
LoL. You know if every player who have a name HRP (Not Roleplay) must rename their char, I think NGD would have to give to every player the possibility to rename themself during a long period.
For the clan name and rank name,it's the same thing :P
It could be a good idea to have a NPC at main town of realm to do that because there are old players who have name that it wont be allowed now I believe (about too much space or offending name ...).
I don't seem to understand...Someone's rank was OoD rapist? Then why do you persecute him? He doesn't mean he is going to thrust his genitals up places you don't want. He means he is going to kill you.
No offense intended.
It doesn't matter what he means. That's like supporting HB for calling people 'twats' when he meant 'idiot'.
StoryTeller
09-28-2008, 06:27 AM
Necro, if we use that logic. Then OoD Rapist is really putting himself down, calling himself a lesser being. Who would want to be a rapist? Appearantly Sanity did.
Now to all, since the only thing you can "rape" with in this game is by utterly defeating the opponent, I'd say this definition of "rape" is completely different than the term used in RL. If you can demonstrate otherwise, or find reference that "rape" was never used to mean the above, please do.
While I personally wouldn't want a title like that (mine is currently 'Red Psycho'), Sanity was enthusiastic about it. We gave him that option, and we now honor it.
Kittypretty
09-28-2008, 07:21 AM
As a victim of sexual assault (rape) myself, i find the term offensive, when used in the way it is described.
I dont however find it offensive in the game, its taken me quite a few years to come to terms with both the horrible experience, and the word to be able to hear and say it. but i cant let myself be worked up over a word or be afraid of it. and besides i believe the clan or whatever said/tagged it meant entirely different than what "happened" to me. its another way of saying owned, pwned, etc, just a rather crude and vulgar way to do so.
So im somewhat on both sides of the fence, i hate the word, i hate what it stands for, and id never wish that on anyone to go through what i did. but i also realize this is just a game and well, people insult, and people provoke.
i sit on peoples faces all the time, and i swear like a sailor even as a girl..have used that word a few times myself, because i use it in a different context (omg we just got raped at stone...help!!
and if this is the same sanity who chooses to use that name, oh well, doesnt bother me, nor does defiling me in game, since im safe at home :) besides..i think its a homage to the brutality that occured at shana a few days back, alita, and sanity at least, fell for the same old trick again and again..safely said, you got both got taken down repeatedly and came back for more, only to be giggled over your lack of tactics...took an army to take us out when we finally did get bored and let our guard down/half left, heck we even allowed a 1v1 with sanity and a similar level and just watched. so if anything, sanity should rethink his definition...because the only one i saw being violated so pathetically was him (and pardon me if this is an entirely different person, the sanity i saw was a hunter who spent his time laying on his back mostly)
so bottom line...i dont care what name you use, nor dislike either of you in game...its just a game.
Ownageftw
09-28-2008, 08:04 AM
Yay a whole thread about me! Lol. I'd like to start off by saying this was not in no way intentional for the real definition of the word "rape" but merely a joke, and if i get to kill a clan member of OoD, I am happy/proud that I can do so, because at this moment, I am a level 30 Hunter. Which we all know can do diddly squat in a real war and has to be sneaky and kill while your down on your knees. I got to choose my custom rank. So if for some crazy reason I get punished for this, punish me, not the clan. I chose this because yes, Simmy Leie, Me, Alita, and immune got raped by 10 syrtis at shanarid castle. Because all of Ignis was at Samal trying to recapture it. Our losses had nothing to do with poor coordination or tactic, we were outnumbered by alot. And soon, it grew even more. That 1v1 you called that was "same level" was not same level. This Theive if I recall right, was level 35 at the time and I am level 30. So bottom line, like Simmy Leie stated, its just a game. Live with it. Its not to harass you. It doesn't bring down the quality of the game. Its not meant in a rude way. Its for laughs.
(Sorry for my long post.)
If Lena felt offended by it, then she felt offended by it. You can't ask someone not to get offended by something and then tell them it was a joke, especially if you don't even know that person. If you met a complete stranger who had darker skin than you, and you called him the racist term starting with N, would he get offended? Probably. If you then told him it was "merely a joke", would he still be offended? Probably, even more so because he's a complete stranger. I don't feel offended by it, I know you didn't mean it offensively, but if she asks you not to use the rank and you still did, that would be trying to offend her.
not in no way intentional
Double negative equals a positive :sifflote:
StoryTeller
09-28-2008, 11:23 AM
Puppypaws, thank you for your candid answer. And thank you for acknowledging it's meaning in the gaming world. It is unfortunate such an event had to happen to you, and in no way do I advocate the RL verison of "rape"
I have apologized earlier in the tread to Lena. She is entitled to her opinion, as are we.
:closed1:
Ownageftw
09-28-2008, 06:43 PM
If Lena felt offended by it, then she felt offended by it. You can't ask someone not to get offended by something and then tell them it was a joke, especially if you don't even know that person. If you met a complete stranger who had darker skin than you, and you called him the racist term starting with N, would he get offended? Probably. If you then told him it was "merely a joke", would he still be offended? Probably, even more so because he's a complete stranger. I don't feel offended by it, I know you didn't mean it offensively, but if she asks you not to use the rank and you still did, that would be trying to offend her.
Double negative equals a positive :sifflote:
You are reffering to real life examples. May I remind you this is just a game ment for intentional fun, teasing, etc. There are many character names that make people angry, uncomfortable, etc. Like Bin Laden, because his name is Bin Laden, he is targeted most often by Americans because of what happened. And some of Middle Eastern heritage are disgraced by his character name because it brings shame to their culture. In conclusion, this is just a game. Live with it. Or better yet, don't.
Necrovarus - "Double negative equals a positive"
I apologize I do not know perfect grammar.
Oh and to Simmy Leie: Sorry I did not mention this in my first post but I am truly sorry for what happened to you in the past. I hope you are not offended by my rank. May God bless your life.
Boukarou
09-28-2008, 07:21 PM
Benjamin Franklin;
'They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security'
Freedom is something that scares a lot of peoples, they would give up freedom for a little bit of safety anytime. Most people would support a dictatorship more easily than freedom, it is weird, but history can only teach i'm right on that.
Liberty is ALWAYS the only decent choice.
What I'd say about feelings is that they're good as long as it keeps its individual focus; you really don't want rules and laws to be defined by feelings, but you want them to be defined by rationality;
If you think i'm wrong on that you're probably someone that says handicaped or handicapable instead of crippled, seniors citizens instead of old peeps and you also probably flag as 'HIV positives people' these how are dying from aids.
I'll never feel comfortable in a society that solves is problems by calling a cat a dog.
Now i'm inviting you to youtube for 'Carlin on rape' and hope you'll have a very good time earing what he got to say :)
_dracus_
09-28-2008, 07:25 PM
Benjamin Franklin;
'They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security'
Freedom is something that scares a lot of peoples, they would give up freedom for a little bit of safety anytime. Most people would support a dictatorship more easily than freedom, it is weird, but history can only teach i'm right on that.
Liberty is ALWAYS the only decent choice.
What I'd say about feelings is that they're good as long as it keeps its individual focus; you really don't want rules and laws to be defined by feelings, but you want them to be defined by rationality;
If you think i'm wrong on that you're probably someone that says handicaped or handicapable instead of crippled, seniors citizens instead of old peeps and you also probably flag as 'HIV positives people' these how are dying from aids.
I'll never feel comfortable in a society that solves is problems by calling a cat a dog.
Now i'm inviting you to youtube for 'Carlin on rape' and hope you'll have a very good time earing what he got to say :)
Ok and we are free to say we are killing them for that ? xD
Boukarou
09-28-2008, 07:35 PM
Ok and we are free to say we are killing them for that ? xD
Yeah ! you got it dude !! Freedom
ps: Is somebody ready to laugh with me if I state than killing is more offensive than raping ?
_dracus_
09-28-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah ! you got it dude !! Freedom
ps: Is somebody ready to laugh with me if I state than killing is more offensive than raping ?
Yes that would give you a reason to try to kill us, but you won't succeed without some helps xD
But I find "rapist" offensive. "Killer" or "Destroyer" would be ok for me.
Yes, declaring yourself to be a murderer is of course way less offensive than declaring yourself a rapist.
I was following your astute political correct observations on how people should behave in other threads already.
It would do you good if you, instead of blindly repeating biased indoctrinations, took the time to think before you post.
Sapere Aude!
Gideon_Slack
09-28-2008, 09:34 PM
Yeah ! you got it dude !! Freedom
ps: Is somebody ready to laugh with me if I state than killing is more offensive than raping ?
Dude, Regnum Online is not a country with a bill of rights. It's a game owned by NGD Studios. You have no "rights" in this game; NGD can revoke your priveleges or ban you at any time.
You agree to that every time you hit Accept on the EULA.
If you love Freedom so much, why do you keep playing this game?
(Conclusion: Freedom really doesn't mean that much to you, except where reminding women of rape is concerned. Natch.)
klixon
09-28-2008, 09:53 PM
ps: Is somebody ready to laugh with me if I state than killing is more offensive than raping ?
Here's my view on that: Killing is less offensive as you end a person's live and consiousness. Raping is more offensive as you destroy a part of someone's live and leave them alive and consious to cope with the consequenses.
Yes, this is just a game... Where people tend to seek an escape for the troubles in their lives. It would not hurt anyone to keep that in mind every now and then...
Man, puppypaws... i'm glad you managed to make that a part of your life where it doesn't rule it. How would you have felt about that rank if you saw that, say 3 months after it happened?
Boukarou
09-28-2008, 10:25 PM
but you won't succeed without some helps xD
Probably that in Regnum everybody killed everybody at least 10 times already :)
...and let me think, yeah, i killed you at PB today :)
Dude, Regnum Online is not a country with a bill of rights. It's a game owned by NGD Studios. You have no "rights" in this game; NGD can revoke your priveleges or ban you at any time.
You agree to that every time you hit Accept on the EULA.
If you love Freedom so much, why do you keep playing this game?
(Conclusion: Freedom really doesn't mean that much to you, except where reminding women of rape is concerned. Natch.)
I totaly agree and respect NGD's complete ownership of Regnum and of all that could be related to Regnum, without a question!
So far, NGD has not expressed any concerns about this incredibly important issue and in the case they should, i can assure everybody that we would comply with their decision on the minute.
I do keep playing this game for several reasons that are good enough for me and i NEVER felt that my freedom was restrained in-game, i'm not asking for freedom, i'm enjoying freedom while playing.
For these, and a few more reasons, your conclusion can't be of any revelance and is in no way reflecting any of our acts nor words.
For Klixon,
-That is a subject way out of the scope of this thread, it was a joke hu, "Better shred than dead!" :)
-It would be really really cool if you could keep in context what we're talking about, as did puppypaws when she differentiated the meaning of this word in Regnum from what we're all condemning.
Ownageftw
09-28-2008, 11:51 PM
As previously stated from me and others either within the text or not, this is a game. And as Bruce stated, you can't let your feelings govern what you want or what you can't have. I refuse to to change my rank because no-one has given me a legit reason to change it. There is no offensive detail in the rank. It is merely what you all use everyday. "Haha, raped" or "We're being raped, help!" Furthermore, I don't see anything wrong with it. And sure, kill me all you want. Isnt that what Regnum is all about?
klixon
09-29-2008, 12:29 AM
Please... you're not the only one in-game reading that title, are you?
I know it's meant as a joke... Some things don't exactly translate well into jokes for other people. That's what i meant...
Gideon_Slack
09-29-2008, 12:35 AM
It is merely what you all use everyday.
I can assure you I never make rape jokes, in-game or out.
But I guess you do.
What was the last rape joke you told your mother or sister?
Ownageftw
09-29-2008, 12:36 AM
Please... you're not the only one in-game reading that title, are you?
I know it's meant as a joke... Some things don't exactly translate well into jokes for other people. That's what i meant...
Please explain to me how it is translated offensively? Am I trying to say that I want to thrust my genitals through the Clan's body parts unwillingly? No. I'm saying I want to rape them, as in, bam bam your dead? Do you get it now? Or do you want to make something out of nothing again and stretch this topic out until it is locked?
Kittypretty
09-29-2008, 01:34 AM
For the record it wasnt 10 people there :P
we had only stalker 5..
i remember valorius,
Executor
Simmy Leie (me!!)
Saint Venant (not in clan, he just happened to meet us around ig land)
Soulhunter
Thieve
Lena (who came much later, and wasnt involved in the majority of the assault, she came after 3 rushes then got bugged on a rock so had to commit seppuku)
we then got wiped when val went back to escort her from pb, got ambushed by your army at columns and both of them died.
exe and soul seperated, so just was me, thieve and saint at shana when you arrived for the 1on1, as for levels, i thought you were roughly equal as i couldnt tell his level nor yours, both of you have no rating)
and damnit i told saint to run into fort, waited for door to break so i could camo...and hit track enemy instead (damn close buttons!) so i got thoroughly pwned soon as you entered...as if i woulda had a chance anyways :)
but i do enjoy this game, and i have no ill will towards any of you people, i actaully enjoy fighting/or running screaming from alita (or in the case where she found me by cs, while i was eating my snack, i had hidden in my rock, sandwich in hand and munching away, and she starts climbing in my rock to lay down some abuse on me, so im frantically running in circles, unable to attack with no hand free, so i died pretty easy...,good lunch though :) those are good memories for me, and i like facing you guys :)
as for sanity, you do have some potential..but i would advise you to change the name for some of our members sake. you do got some pretty sneaky camo skills, and you tracked us pretty well, id rather know you for that, than just as "the guy who has this rapist thread"
cheers :)
Ownageftw
09-29-2008, 01:40 AM
You know what, I will change it for you Simmy. Not because this uneducated people come on here and say my rank is about a rape joke, which I for one, don't see a joke in my rank if there is please tell me i enjoy laughing, but because you gave me a legit reason to. I will only change the rapist part. Nothing else. My message stays the same.
LenaRosemberg
09-29-2008, 01:46 AM
You know what, I will change it for you Simmy. Not because this uneducated people come on here and say my rank is about a rape joke, which I for one, don't see a joke in my rank if there is please tell me i enjoy laughing, but because you gave me a legit reason to. I will only change the rapist part. Nothing else. My message stays the same.
I'm totally happy with that solution, as I said in the first post. Even if it was not "for me", thanks.
Angel_de_Combate
10-04-2008, 12:55 PM
OMG the point of this thread was, you were offended, in that case avert your eyes in future, jesus.....
Gideon_Slack
10-04-2008, 09:32 PM
OMG the point of this thread was, you were offended, in that case avert your eyes in future, jesus.....
Big fan of rape, are you Skatz1980?
Torg_Snowflake
10-04-2008, 09:59 PM
Well. Rapist is a bit harsh.
Bur for example "Syrtis Bitches" (Las perras de syrtis) it's a rather old clan. Yet they were never censored.
Mattdoesrock
10-04-2008, 10:39 PM
Then there's the Sex Clan.
Not seen any of them in awhile.
LenaRosemberg
10-04-2008, 11:06 PM
It's not the sex in rape that offends me but the unwanted part.
By the way, why still going on this thread ? Sanity changed his rank and I sayed I was happy with the change, what's the point ?
I think Mec is angry because Sanity's forum account was banned.
Angel_de_Combate
10-05-2008, 05:13 PM
Big fan of rape, are you Skatz1980?
Aye so you were the one that gave me red karma ? Sad.. Storyteller is actually a good friend of mine, and would never intentionally offend anyone ! :harhar:
Angel_de_Combate
10-05-2008, 05:13 PM
I think Mec is angry because Sanity's forum account was banned.
Nope !! :harhar:
Angel_de_Combate
10-05-2008, 05:15 PM
Then there's the Sex Clan.
Not seen any of them in awhile.
I remember them :P
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