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bigjim
10-13-2008, 03:06 PM
Hi all!

As many of you know I am on the horus server now, and in the realm of alsius. After yesterday I am happy I am here, because the imbalance of players is clearly evident to me. This is another discussion for another time though.

Anyways, I have been seeing and hearing of pvp's almost every day now. Pvp's outside of aggers, stone, and wherever else. The thing is... I don't think this game in the wz is meant for pvp; imo it is not the game design. It is cool to be nice when needing to be nice, but there is a point where it can go too far. I feel as though the "horus" server is almost too nice. I say all this to say, if I meet someone in the wz or a group. I don't expect sympathy, and in return I give no sympathy back. I know this sounds cruel, but damn I just want some good fights. I am done with the pvp shit.

Miraculix
10-13-2008, 05:22 PM
No, I understand you. The WZ is pretty dead as it is, and when day after day the 10 that might be on the WZ are doing the same 1v1's over and over again, it completely kills the WZ. It would be fun to do maybe once a month, but this is getting ridiculous.

I don't want to piss ppl off too much, so I don't know if I will be sparing anyone I see doing 1v1s, but I'm quite fed up with it already.

bigjim
10-13-2008, 05:47 PM
No, I understand you. The WZ is pretty dead as it is, and when day after day the 10 that might be on the WZ are doing the same 1v1's over and over again, it completely kills the WZ. It would be fun to do maybe once a month, but this is getting ridiculous.

I don't want to piss ppl off too much, so I don't know if I will be sparing anyone I see doing 1v1s, but I'm quite fed up with it already.

Hell, if you want a hunt mira let me know. We can always hunt some ignis together. :D I am trying for lvl 49 today, so I have a lot of work today. Also, I am leveling a conjurer, and a barb. :D :metal:

Vroek
10-13-2008, 06:21 PM
I despise every single elf!
But i wont let that get in the way for some pvp action.

Atleast stop waving and bowing! If you do it to piss me off, fine. If you do it for any other reason, stop it.

4bb3
10-13-2008, 07:31 PM
why leave Ra anyway?

bigjim
10-13-2008, 11:36 PM
why leave Ra anyway?

As I once stated:

Sometimes change hurts at the time, but in the end it is for good. I have met some awesome people on the Horus server. Granted there are players there that don't really know how to fight yet, but most of the newer players are willing to listen, willing to make changes, and willing to learn.

So, I think overall the horus has great great potential, but it is just going to take time to get there. There are good wars every day, and people to hunt. For me I have been staying out of war as much as I can, so I can get my knight to 50. I am halfway to 49 right now, and honestly it is really hard to level solo. I also have a conjurer and barb on the way too. I guess you could say I have a leveling addiction. :(

The bowing is cool after it has been a great fight, and I really do have some respect for a lot of people. I do think that it is time that the Horus server balls up though. Even though that is somewhat hard for me to do at times, because I do have quite a few friends in other realms. I guess I just have to remember what side I am fighting for now, and stick to it.

niemi
10-14-2008, 05:31 AM
Perhaps it's the time of day, or just my luck, but I disagree.
the warzone to me so far has been a blast, everytime im called over its a 20+ player fight, sometimes getting up to 40+ when all realms are in on the war.

If you can't find a fight, try harder. :wink:

4bb3
10-14-2008, 07:40 AM
I dont care about finding big fights, I just want to have one huge server with all online (very easy to find fights) instead of 5 with just a few online all the time (no fights?).

If it is just because there is to much spanish speaking ppl on Ra ppl are change to Horus it SUCK.

Why no have the Eve-Online Community as an ideal: 1 Swedish chat, 1 global chat, 1 spanish chat, one english and 1 clan chat.

kinsa11
10-14-2008, 11:00 AM
Hell, if you want a hunt mira let me know. We can always hunt some ignis together. :D

Tell me where you are then, so I can send Mira back to herb safe... damn cuddling :bruja:

I joined those pvp-nights once and five minutes later I got completely bored, so I went away. I don't know how this is going to be with those pvps in the future, but I hope this won't be a daily (or almost daily) event...
I guess there is a rest of the "tyrs-zorn-is-so-arrogant-" reputation and we have never liked that. But as far as I'm concerned I'll soon prefer being called arrogant or evil if I can stop those pvps with it.

If you really want to do those, then at least not in front of aggers, that's rude and you cannot be surprised if someone disturbs them over there!

eerO
10-14-2008, 11:30 AM
Those PvP´s are always at night! If theres no action in WZ, we do the PvP´s. And I think its kinda funny...

kinsa11
10-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Those PvP´s are always at night! If theres no action in WZ, we do the PvP´s. And I think its kinda funny...

The last time I've seen one pvp night it was about 10 o'clock for me. And you. But it's not 10 o'clock everywhere, you should keep that in mind! How small some peoples world is...:rolleyes:

Furthermore there were about 40 (or more) chars standing in front of aggers and watching... If all of them had done fortwar, there would have been action.

And I don't know what "at night" is for you, but for me ten is not...

Vroek
10-14-2008, 12:11 PM
Yes its a last resort to have some decent action
until now we seen mostly 1v1 but hopefully we can do more interesting fights involving support characters in 2v2, 2v3 or Tyrs vs rest of the world.

Last night me, Rha, Only one and Yawney was hanging out at Aggers
dancing, idling laughing at the 'cowardly' elves taking Trelle instead of fighting us. :sifflote:
It took them 20-30 min to reach Aggers and by then it was at least 10 vs 3, it was kind of late and only logical to pvp instead of doing nothing for another 30 min, get bored only to log off.

ncvr
10-14-2008, 12:11 PM
If they are there every night, it's quite boring and it takes away people to kill in hunts. I wouldn't mind a PvP every month or maybe even every week, but every day is just crazy. If there is no action, then don't go to forts, go and hunt - there should be plenty of levelers to piss off. I like Regnum's PvP (or RvR) because there aren't many limits to it.

If I had to cope with so many PvP events (and I don't seem to due to the times I play), I'd rather wreck them. At least I get some less limited action that way.

Angelwinged_Devil
10-14-2008, 04:47 PM
if the wz is dead I see no reason for them to do pvp if that's what they want to do. Even if I agree with bigjim we shouldn't forget that most of us are older players even if we want something else and need to respect some of the newer players who might be doing this or some older who does it out of boredom.

We have no right to say they can't we can kill them yes, but well, how much of an older player would you be then?

Newer players learn their characters through pvp and so it's only good practice.

_dracus_
10-14-2008, 06:01 PM
Newer players learn their characters through pvp and so it's only good practice.

I have to disagree with that. On my hunter my best setups for PvP doesn't suit me in fort wars. On my barbarian I don't know I never really gave a try to berseker setup ...

chilko
10-15-2008, 03:58 PM
Regnum users have been doing this kind of thing on low populated iterations of Regnum (hehe I remember when i cried reaching 150 concurrent users for the first time :) )

Its also nice to try different kinds of experiences in the game even when its designed for RvR there are nice PVP-type encounters to be explored.

I can only say that you will see a dramatical increase in Horus userbase soon.

Miraculix
10-15-2008, 04:26 PM
Regnum users have been doing this kind of thing on low populated iterations of Regnum (hehe I remember when i cried reaching 150 concurrent users for the first time :) )

Its also nice to try different kinds of experiences in the game even when its designed for RvR there are nice PVP-type encounters to be explored.
It's nice when it happens as an exception, or maybe not as often as every night :/ I kinda stopped playing Horus because of that (and RO altogether for a week or two due to other obligations, but that came afterwards). Don't get me wrong though - I'd love to see say monthly tournaments set in some huge arena organized with trophies etc, just not in WZ where I hunt :p Maybe central island ;)

I can only say that you will see a dramatical increase in Horus userbase soon.

/me hopes he will see migrations happening soon xD

Angelwinged_Devil
10-19-2008, 10:39 AM
I have to disagree with that. On my hunter my best setups for PvP doesn't suit me in fort wars. On my barbarian I don't know I never really gave a try to berseker setup ...
it's true :), it's not the same as a fort war, you get more time to think in a pvp, what is a good thing and what is a bad thing, fort wars are different yes but you don't get that much time to see what you're doing wrong or right what the enemy did to you. At this point your log might be too long.

niemi
10-22-2008, 09:18 AM
I can only say that you will see a dramatical increase in Horus userbase soon.

Why do you think this? I mean, i hope to God for increase in playerbase,
but why do you think this will happen? I cant wait for the day they announce stronger servers (when xim cashflow gets bigger) and i start seeing adds for regnum in more mmo based sites. ;)

SmUrV
10-22-2008, 09:40 AM
it's true :), it's not the same as a fort war, you get more time to think in a pvp, what is a good thing and what is a bad thing, fort wars are different yes but you don't get that much time to see what you're doing wrong or right what the enemy did to you. At this point your log might be too long.


whats i've found with the pvps is that it teaches you how to use your character better even in fort war and being able to recognize spells without looking at the log(based on sound or animation) this can let you make the quick choices needed for war even faster :)

for me pvp has been the best teacher

Leadoffhitter
10-22-2008, 03:28 PM
Regnum users have been doing this kind of thing on low populated iterations of Regnum (hehe I remember when i cried reaching 150 concurrent users for the first time :) )

Its also nice to try different kinds of experiences in the game even when its designed for RvR there are nice PVP-type encounters to be explored.

I can only say that you will see a dramatical increase in Horus userbase soon.

I would like to try Horus to meet this kind of "experience".

I'm not sure but i think that when Horus was launched, I heard or read that after 2 months spanish speakers (I can try to speak some english too) could enter into Horus...

In my client there's not such possibility...

The question is, did I miss something and spanish speakers are already there? Or not allowed to do it yet?

Regards.

Angel_de_Combate
10-27-2008, 10:48 AM
I can only say that you will see a dramatical increase in Horus userbase soon.

Yeahhh and that will be ???

UmarilsStillHere
10-27-2008, 01:13 PM
Yeahhh and that will be ???

Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas.

:angel2:

DkySven
10-27-2008, 08:43 PM
Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas.

:angel2:
Yea, I hope too that the holas stay at Ra :D

Znurre
10-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Yea, I hope too that the holas stay at Ra :DMe too, loosing them would be a great loss.

Angel_de_Combate
10-28-2008, 10:14 AM
Yea, I hope too that the holas stay at Ra :D

They rock :)

Leadoffhitter
10-28-2008, 03:40 PM
Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas. Please not the holas.

:angel2:

Yea, I hope too that the holas stay at Ra


Snif, snif...

Is that fear what i smell?

:angel2: :D

bigjim
10-28-2008, 03:57 PM
I would love some Spanish players to come to the Horus server... I am not joking we need some new blood in there, and we need it fast.

Angel_de_Combate
10-28-2008, 07:10 PM
I would love some Spanish players to come to the Horus server... I am not joking we need some new blood in there, and we need it fast.

Not new blood..just more users ^^

SmUrV
11-03-2008, 09:05 AM
I would love some Spanish players to come to the Horus server... I am not joking we need some new blood in there, and we need it fast.


they shoudl set up an english test for the spanish speaking community to pass before joining a realm soemthin like 5 easy questions

Angel_de_Combate
11-03-2008, 09:44 AM
they shoudl set up an english test for the spanish speaking community to pass before joining a realm soemthin like 5 easy questions

Some suggestions..

Circle the right one..

Wenas Cabras Enemies

Vamos .. a war cry or a small island in Crete ?

UmarilsStillHere
11-03-2008, 06:11 PM
Horus is way to nice for a war...

Me bboy and stooge were danceing with an ignis player at cs, at first i did try to kill him ofc...

I lagged up on my horse next to an ignis baqrb between the gate and Cs, he let me go

Yawney, let me go twice

People (no names) rideing round with pumpkins on, please stop realy, ill kill you as i have a few of you allready, I still have a quest for 17 more alsius :)

I let an alsius knight go, then remembered my quest and the reason i went there in the first place,

Some players hardly seem to put effort into combat, i wont name anyone but some players are so half arsed about combat its amazing, I killed 2 lvl 50 marks in the plast week and im a lvl 41 conju for gods sake, on a crappy SM lvling build!!) GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER THIS IS WRONG >.>

Wz simply hasnt got the same tence fealing that it once had, because so many people either let you go or only put half there mind to the fight, so PLEASE follow the example of players like Waylaid, and kill me, kill others, kill people for gods sake, horus Wz is a joke!

ineurotic
11-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Horus is way to nice for a war...

Me bboy and stooge were danceing with an ignis player at cs, at first i did try to kill him ofc...

I lagged up on my horse next to an ignis baqrb between the gate and Cs, he let me go

Yawney, let me go twice

People (no names) rideing round with pumpkins on, please stop realy, ill kill you as i have a few of you allready, I still have a quest for 17 more alsius :)

I let an alsius knight go, then remembered my quest and the reason i went there in the first place,

Some players hardly seem to put effort into combat, i wont name anyone but some players are so half arsed about combat its amazing, I killed 2 lvl 50 marks in the plast week and im a lvl 41 conju for gods sake, on a crappy SM lvling build!!) GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER THIS IS WRONG >.>

Wz simply hasnt got the same tence fealing that it once had, because so many people either let you go or only put half there mind to the fight, so PLEASE follow the example of players like Waylaid, and kill me, kill others, kill people for gods sake, horus Wz is a joke!

Amen. The way to combat this behavior is slaughter everyone in your way. No mercy!

kinsa11
11-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Amen. The way to combat this behavior is slaughter everyone in your way. No mercy!

Agree... completely!

UmarilsStillHere
11-03-2008, 10:01 PM
I dont blame some of these new guys, who havent experianced Ra Wz, were everyone is ALWAYS buffed the danger just isnt there as much on Horus so many people dont see the need, so be it, but its your fault when you get owned.

I still allways have my sheild up, and zark+staff buffs if on solo lvling setup, just to be safe, even if im just inside the gate.

Gratz to Ignis for that fight at samal you did well, ofc half our people still dont understand "get back"

Gratz to the players in alsius who were fighting me sir mari(summit) Adelana and that other guy (sorry forget your name) near you gate, you helped me finish me 20 alsius quota and well done for finally winning, but advise rather than focus the barb, or the noob, go for me im the freaking conju :thumb_up:

bigjim
11-03-2008, 10:56 PM
I dont blame some of these new guys, who havent experianced Ra Wz, were everyone is ALWAYS buffed the danger just isnt there as much on Horus so many people dont see the need, so be it, but its your fault when you get owned.

I still allways have my sheild up, and zark+staff buffs if on solo lvling setup, just to be safe, even if im just inside the gate.

Gratz to Ignis for that fight at samal you did well, ofc half our people still dont understand "get back"

Gratz to the players in alsius who were fighting me sir mari(summit) Adelana and that other guy (sorry forget your name) near you gate, you helped me finish me 20 alsius quota and well done for finally winning, but advise rather than focus the barb, or the noob, go for me im the freaking conju :thumb_up:

Hehe, I am one that is trying to continue the Ra tradition out. I am used to my hunter, so I am always trying to kill people. I have a hard time killing old friends, but it has to be done. It's nothing personal; it's just the way the game is. I have been hunting a bit with Kinsa lately, and we seem to be having some success. I think Horus is growing in good ways though. I just think it is going to need more time for the new players to learn.

UmarilsStillHere
11-04-2008, 06:17 PM
Feal free to kill me anytime :p :thumb_up:

If im alone/unbuffed for any reason then if I get killed its my own fault for being lazy :P

I think you have killed me a few times, But that may have been some other midget knight I forget ^^

Foggia
11-04-2008, 06:21 PM
they shoudl set up an english test for the spanish speaking community to pass before joining a realm soemthin like 5 easy questions

I'd rather prefer an IQ test for everyone. :cuac:

ecufan1
11-04-2008, 07:53 PM
RA is really good, I mean horus is alright but spanish ppl can speak english too. And a ton of English players are still on RA. I was only 22 at that time but I didnt fell like startin over :)

UmarilsStillHere
11-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Nice job to ignis/syrtis at samal just now was hard work and lasted ages but you eventualy drove us out :P Not so good with the coming to herb and getting owned though ;)

Fort wars with little to no lag, thats why I switched Its a very rare occurance on Ra that a fort fight is anything but 2 zergs aura/area spamming each other. 15ish per side seems to work the best plenty of players to fight but not so many that the battle becomes a spaming zerg fest.

mute
11-05-2008, 07:45 AM
Much better was the next fight at Samal.

10 Syrtis against 4 Ignis Archers. (2 Marks and 2 Hunters).

Yeah, we killed all 10 Greens...

:bounce:

kinsa11
11-05-2008, 08:57 AM
Oh my god we killed <insert any number of enemies, maybe some insults and definitely a description of how great you are>

Is it possible everyone that has to mention those situations only does that because they are really unusual for him/her? :harhar:

SmUrV
11-05-2008, 10:41 AM
Oh my god we killed <insert any number of enemies, maybe some insults and definitely a description of how great you are>

Is it possible everyone that has to mention those situations only does that because they are really unusual for him/her? :harhar:


give him a break he prolyl came from muspell :(

ncvr
11-05-2008, 10:47 AM
give him a break he prolyl came from muspell :(
Mute has been playing in Syrtis/Ra in the GG's far before the German servers even came out.

kinsa11
11-05-2008, 10:48 AM
give him a break he prolyl came from muspell :(

Me too... so what?

SmUrV
11-05-2008, 10:48 AM
Mute has been playing in Syrtis/Ra in the GG's far before the German servers even came out.


pfft i dont know these people -.-

mute
11-05-2008, 11:45 AM
I started on RA since the Beta, played on Muspel during the Beta, tested Niflheim, came back to RA in Ignis and now moved to Horus...


About my comment above:

It was simply a nice fight (one of the better ones on Horus) and so I talked about... Won't do it again btw...

SmUrV
11-05-2008, 11:54 AM
I started on RA since the Beta, played on Muspel during the Beta, tested Niflheim, came back to RA in Ignis and now moved to Horus...


About my comment above:

It was simply a nice fight (one of the better ones on Horus) and so I talked about... Won't do it again btw...

horus has its happy moments...

and then it has the times when a hunter tracks 3 people runs away and comes back with 7 to kill those 3, i call this... pinpoint zerging >.> tested and proven by alsius :)

kinsa11
11-05-2008, 03:06 PM
About my comment above:

It was simply a nice fight (one of the better ones on Horus) and so I talked about... Won't do it again btw...

It wasn't meant as an offense directly to you, mute, sorry if it seemed like that.
I just don't like the "This player did this and that group did that and we are the best because we can kill 12 of them and don't loose one single HP"-posts.

Sometimes I'm really itching to deal with some peoples coward behavior or bad abilities or whatever, but I'm just trying to laugh about that and think that they are maybe new and will learn soon...

Of course I enjoy it when I am in a tiny group and we are able to defeat the bigger one, while hunting for example... But I think that this is dependent on so many things and I am not a better player than XY, just because I could beat him once/twice... maybe he had a bad day, maybe tomorrow I am in the group that doesn't play together as a team.

Back to topic: I think that the best fights on Horus are the ones that don't discourage one side directly, that last a while and in which it is really equal almost all the time. Whether this is because of numbers or abilities isn't even that interesting.

The really odd thing right now is that there is not that typical overpopulated realm all the time. Sometimes there is a huge amout of Syrtis while in my FL there are 2 or three ppl online. Then there are 15 Alsius high lvl on, but no enemy can be found. This is because of the different time zones I guess and this makes me enjoy the few great fortwars even more...

ineurotic
11-05-2008, 04:57 PM
horus has its happy moments...

and then it has the times when a hunter tracks 3 people runs away and comes back with 7 to kill those 3, i call this... pinpoint zerging >.> tested and proven by alsius :)

I call this... Good scouting skills.

SmUrV
11-05-2008, 10:37 PM
I call this... Good scouting skills.

i call it... over compensation

Angel_de_Combate
11-05-2008, 11:59 PM
horus has its happy moments...

and then it has the times when a hunter tracks 3 people runs away and comes back with 7 to kill those 3, i call this... pinpoint zerging >.> tested and proven by alsius :)

they need 7 to kill 3.. ?

SmUrV
11-06-2008, 03:04 AM
they need 7 to kill 3.. ?


that what i was sayign the whole time...

ncvr
11-06-2008, 05:49 AM
Well, hunters usually just alert everyone in their clan when they track something they can't deal with alone.

Angel_de_Combate
11-06-2008, 08:59 AM
Well, hunters usually just alert everyone in their clan when they track something they can't deal with alone.

Ive killed 3 people..alone...hmmm

SmUrV
11-06-2008, 09:43 AM
Ive killed 3 people..alone...hmmm
2 lvl 30's and a 45 o.O

Angel_de_Combate
11-06-2008, 09:54 AM
2 lvl 30's and a 45 o.O

Well i didnt know what lvls they were(what your on about), mine was a lvl 30 or so and 2 25's i think(chall and two easy's, i suck at guessing lvls), my point is..what happened to having a go and trying to kill them yourself..surely that more gratifying..than 7 on 3 ? Even if you die...god some people are too afraid to die in this game...try and try again..as the phrase goes(hence my low rank on rps lol).

SmUrV
11-06-2008, 09:56 AM
Well i didnt know what lvls they were(what your on about), mine was a lvl 30 or so and 2 25's i think(chall and two easy's, i suck at guessing lvls), my point is..what happened to having a go and trying to kill them yourself..surely that more gratifying..than 7 on 3 ? Even if you die...god some people are too afraid to die in this game...try and try again..as the phrase goes(hence my low rank on rps lol).


i'd have fought them on my knight take out the big one first the other 2 fall easy -.-

Angel_de_Combate
11-06-2008, 09:57 AM
i'd have fought them on my knight take out the big one first the other 2 fall easy -.-

Which was what i did :P

Envy
11-06-2008, 01:59 PM
I'm not sure how you knew the hunter was first alone.. Track range > sight range, but I won't hang on it.

I've had a similar experience, one Ignis marksman saw me alone grinding and he was Normal to me. We looked at each other, then he ran away, and came back with two more Ignis to kill little me D=

SmUrV
11-07-2008, 03:12 AM
I've had a similar experience, one Ignis marksman saw me alone grinding and he was Normal to me. We looked at each other, then he ran away, and came back with two more Ignis to kill little me D=



i take those as compliments :)

a testement to the strength of a knight