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Nightchill
01-05-2009, 10:00 PM
you guys must be really pissed off about loosing so badly yesterday at peak hours on horus, look what i saw on alsius realm chat while i was leveling meh goatzee. i must say, very lame ignis, very lame indeed.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1984m0.jpg

-NC

ncvr
01-06-2009, 01:11 AM
What a pt.

_Arwen_
01-06-2009, 02:10 AM
I see no problem in this, war is about making and breaking alliances and its up to the Alsius players whether or not to accept Ignis' help. I'm sure we've done something in the past to "help" Alsius as well. Anyway that's my opinion.

Sincerely,
Arwen

lala110593
01-06-2009, 02:50 AM
Like so many of you syrtians where insulted when igneans claimed all syrtians save camped, Naomi and her clan do not represent all igneans, and especially Dark conjurer does not either. Many of us would never team up with alsius, i Personally believe ignis has the strength to wipe the floor with syrtis when it wants, I was not online when we where invaded, and im hearing different sotires, from my realm mates i was told that we where outnumbered 6-1, this thread makes it seem otherwise... which i doubt, this may have been peak hours for syrtis but not for ignis, anyway i do not want ignis being judged by the actions of one clan who has lost belief of strength of its own realm...

glulose- syrtis killer of The Order

P.S. syrtis dont you think you are being a little hipocritical, ive seen countless syrtians join ranks among alsiuns in battle against ignis, and vice versa, i once saw nightchill, simon and others running up to the alsiun side in a war, and the alsiuns raped the syrtians, as they tried to join forces with them... this syrtian thread= massive fail as it is critisizing ignis for somethign syrtians have done many many many times before, especially you nightchill..., so in a way you guys just called ur self pts...

Moo122334455
01-06-2009, 03:05 AM
yea...weve helped alsius before too..or at least tried
so i really dont see why there needs to even be a topic lol..ignis didnt want us to invade alsius...good....i dont think that many people care really..

it seems like a problem how people see a group of individuals from a certain realm and word it so it sounds like "ignis/sytris/alsius was camping us" its not the entire realm its just some individuals..their different..it just raises a bunch of pointless tension...its a game...people do what they want..

lala110593
01-06-2009, 03:17 AM
yea...weve helped alsius before too..or at least tried
so i really dont see why there needs to even be a topic lol..ignis didnt want us to invade alsius...good....i dont think that many people care really..

it seems like a problem how people see a group of individuals from a certain realm and word it so it sounds like "ignis/sytris/alsius was camping us" its not the entire realm its just some individuals..their different..it just raises a bunch of pointless tension...its a game...people do what they want..


agree 100%

-Glulose

_Arwen_
01-06-2009, 03:43 AM
Like so many of you syrtians where insulted when igneans claimed all syrtians save camped, Naomi and her clan do not represent all igneans, and especially Dark conjurer does not either. Many of us would never team up with alsius, i Personally believe ignis has the strength to wipe the floor with syrtis when it wants, I was not online when we where invaded, and im hearing different sotires, from my realm mates i was told that we where outnumbered 6-1, this thread makes it seem otherwise... which i doubt, this may have been peak hours for syrtis but not for ignis, anyway i do not want ignis being judged by the actions of one clan who has lost belief of strength of its own realm...

glulose- syrtis killer of The Order

P.S. syrtis dont you think you are being a little hipocritical, ive seen countless syrtians join ranks among alsiuns in battle against ignis, and vice versa, i once saw nightchill, simon and others running up to the alsiun side in a war, and the alsiuns raped the syrtians, as they tried to join forces with them... this syrtian thread= massive fail as it is critisizing ignis for somethign syrtians have done many many many times before, especially you nightchill..., so in a way you guys just called ur self pts...


I would just like to say, that I think I was the only one that was offended by the accusations of spawn camping, and if you read my post you'll see that I'm angry/mad/whatever at Naomi and their clan for helping as I also pointed out we helped them a few times as well.

Also NC doesn't represent the mindset of all Syrtians so again we're back to the stereotyping based on a few people.

As for the gate war I'll clarify a few things from my perspective (believe me or not it does not matter) At our first attack we were about at a 1:1 ratio in people (though syrtis had a bunch of lower lvls and I'm sure Ignis did as well). After you cleared us off your property the first time we came back with a few less people, and from what I saw you also had a few less. Again the second attack was about 1:1. Once we broke the gate down we did out number you 6:1 as most of you army split up to defend the gems (or so I assume). Again this is my account of the battle so it's probably not 100% accurate.

Also glulose I'm glad you feel that way about your realm (that you can wipe the floor with us) because thats how all players should feel about their realms or there is no point in playing. I (and most of Syrtis) would welcome you to come and attempt to kick us out of Efe (or herb or alga) while we are in there, we miss the good old fashion fortwars where it wasn't running from 1 empty fort to another (ok ok yes the old days could be like that too). Anyway come and get us some time you'll be surprised how much progress we've made (oh and make sure I'm online too I want some fun :) )

Anyway, really hope to see a good fort/castle battle against you guys sometime (preferably with Syrtis defending)

Sincerely,
Arwen

lala110593
01-06-2009, 04:00 AM
well i think we can agree that no one clan, or person will represent a realm, and the realm should not be judged by the action of that person, i was one who saw all syrtis as camper, but now i understand after this, and i have changed that. I miss the old fort wars too, but what i mostly miss was the PB wars, those where my favorite, the rock ambushes and everything, imo better than the fort wars. ID be glad to go to syrtis and take Efrias from you anytime, but for right now im taking a small break from the game, semester finals are next week, and i wont be playing much.. but i know the rest ignis wont dissapoint u in that request =).

-Glulose

_Arwen_
01-06-2009, 04:04 AM
well i think we can agree that no one clan, or person will represent a realm, and the realm should not be judged by the action of that person, i was one who saw all syrtis as camper, but now i understand after this, and i have changed that. I miss the old fort wars too, but what i mostly miss was the PB wars, those where my favorite, the rock ambushes and everything, imo better than the fort wars. ID be glad to go to syrtis and take Efrias from you anytime, but for right now im taking a small break from the game, semester finals are next week, and i wont be playing much.. but i know the rest ignis wont dissapoint u in that request =).

-Glulose

Gah! Exams always mess everything up! And yea PB wars are great as well... If only I couldn't figure out a way to get Syrtis to say on our side of the bridge :P.

Sincerely,
Arwen

Llayne
01-06-2009, 05:03 AM
you guys must be really pissed off about loosing so badly yesterday at peak hours on horus, look what i saw on alsius realm chat while i was leveling meh goatzee. i must say, very lame ignis, very lame indeed.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1984m0.jpg

-NC

Have you met my friend kettle?

ncvr
01-06-2009, 06:10 AM
I think this was addressed to the Ignean who decided to come and spam our realm chat, not the rest of you.

It reminds me of Valorius.

-SoL-
01-06-2009, 10:33 AM
lol this is sort of funny yea syrtis has joined with alsuis but this pic sort of looks like ignis is being desperate about it lol :)

Nightchill
01-06-2009, 11:26 AM
I think this was addressed to the Ignean who decided to come and spam our realm chat, not the rest of you.

It reminds me of Valorius.
wow, it seems like you're the only one smart enought to conclude that. congrats! yes, i'm talking about how very lame it is to beg on alsius chat not to attack you.

@glulose, hmm, me? helped alsius? or ignis? no. you're making shit up now. i would like for any alsius to write here if i ever helped alsius in war. only time when you might see me rushing into alsius v ignis battle is when i'm suiciding to whore some rp's from my areas. so your excuse to justify how low you guys have fell to even go beg on alsius chat is not going to work. actually there's one time last week i tried to help and was shot down by alsius in 30sec time so that definitely made me not to try & help any time again. noobs.

@arwen, yes, thanks to god i'm not mindset of all syrtians cause most of them are complete retards and I wouldn't like if you've put me in the same bin as them.

@kaliek, 4 kettle your pettle? (i don't have a clue what you're talking about dude, what kettle?)

-Edge-
01-06-2009, 12:55 PM
Meh, your all noobs,

Stay in your own fishbowl little critters,
But once again, someone posts a topic about something, and like always it ends with another Horus signature signoff.
I congratulate Horus for continuing to impress me. What next? Will we see a group of players all standing in a line bowing and synchronizing at the same time? Alliance?! Pfft, if NGD wanted alliances it would be easier to do it, why do you think other realms can't communicate with each other. Get a grip morons, fight for your own side finnaly and stop twisting and turning it, I don't give a fuck what the other realm does, keep face in your own bowl you ass sniffers. You play the game to play it, not play some childish version of lets be friends.

If you want to help the other realm so much, join them.

LOL "Didn't you see us waving and bowing?"

My god ahahaha, I would PAY to see that.

My god look at you all, its sad. You all whine about each other, you do this, you do that. Its some kind of sick accuasitions. Dude, I don't CARE what Syrtis does, Ignis, or Alsuis for that matter, I don't care about what goes on in my own realm, I only care about myself and others who strive to play the game for what it is, and not turn it into a Giant soap opera. Your not friends, your all enemies, so start acting like it, its impossible to get every single player to agree with a single statement like lets fight together.

In this case, I have to laugh at Ignis for looking like pansies, and I congratulate Alsuis for sticking their ground and fighting the right way, their own way.

I think this picture is perfect, I love each and every dialog. Just look here:

Our clan name is supporting Syrtis, Alsuis I mean, and then the stupid face -.-

And shortly after it: Warning, spy detected!

Yawney
01-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Yay I'm in Night's friends list...:bounce5425: Poor me...

My idea of helping other realms is do it if it helps you. And Naomii please don't ever pvc me again asking us to stop killing reds.

Also I think I speak for all goats and midgets when I say even though we get kicked badly from time to time, we don't need help so keep your long ears (green or red) away from our snowy lands. :no:

chris32finney
01-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Ok, heres what actually happened..... Me (Hathor) and naomi were bored, we saw alsius were on the move so i said "Lets go to alsius and try to pick off a few syrtis for fun" we didnt want to help alsius directly we know they are good fighters and are perfectly capable of fending for themselves.I didnt know naomi had an alsius char and did not ask or give her permission to go to alsius and ask they leave us alone, i had logged off at that point. As for changing my clans name for 5 mins it was to try to draw some of syrtis to us so we could get some kills (a crappy attempt to anger a few syrtis noobs) my clan is purely Ignis it always has and always will be. As for when Syrtis invaded my isp fucked up and could'nt coordinate a defence for the simple fact i couldnt log on but from what i was told and saw for the 5 mins i actually did manage to log on Syrtis should be proud they fought well and tbh they deserved both gems but got unlucky in the volcanic zone. As for leaders leading my clan uses teamspeak and we fight as a unit. If me and naomi have upset anyone i have only one thing to say "Its a feckin game i'll do what i want, get over yourselves and just play and have fun"

Bradlee
01-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Well if thats the case from now on ill not help any alsius or syrtis player ever again.
And Ori id rather you talk to IGI members rather than sticking things up on forum thankyou

-Edge-
01-06-2009, 04:36 PM
[...]
That was beautiful. Exactly what im talking about. Come on Ignis, you guys ARE the dominants in the warzone, but you don't need to let it go to your heads because then this is exactly what happens. You want to help little Alsuis? Well I don't think little Alsuis would defend your back, why should you defend theirs.

Why should a whole realm believe in an alliance anyway when the form of alliance is some simple 5 minute command plan sent out by 1 guy.

eerO
01-06-2009, 04:44 PM
Nightchill only wanted to show us his alsius spy account...

NC, i have to say now... youre such a pt, really... you have 3 accounts, 1 for Syrtis, 1 for Ignis and 1 for Alsius... in Ignis you said you want to lvl with the boost we had choosen from the Gold Dragon... what did you say in Alsius?

Really poor... well, if some Syrtis players cant play without a spy acc...

eerO
01-06-2009, 04:45 PM
That was beautiful. Exactly what im talking about. Come on Ignis, you guys ARE the dominants in the warzone, but you don't need to let it go to your heads because then this is exactly what happens. You want to help little Alsuis? Well I don't think little Alsuis would defend your back, why should you defend theirs.

Why should a whole realm believe in an alliance anyway when the form of alliance is some simple 5 minute command plan sent out by 1 guy.

Sorry for my double post...

I think they wanted to defend Alsius because Syrtis got 1 of the Ignis gems and some Igneans didnt want them to get all gems...

Angelwinged_Devil
01-06-2009, 04:53 PM
@eero: Nightchill is no spy, if he was that character would be level 24, and he wouldn't reveal his character in a public forum, I also see fonzy(fonzi) on the list, Nightchill and fonzy went to alsius to help them in war because thye were low on numbers (check the chat log again.)

I can only say lol nightchill XD, nice one, also you used the nickname I gave you \o/ <3.

P.S. yes we did help alsius once when we didn't have the numbers to invade but defend their castle :) the keyword here is strategy.

Nightchill
01-06-2009, 04:59 PM
Nightchill only wanted to show us his alsius spy account...

NC, i have to say now... youre such a pt, really... you have 3 accounts, 1 for Syrtis, 1 for Ignis and 1 for Alsius... in Ignis you said you want to lvl with the boost we had choosen from the Gold Dragon... what did you say in Alsius?

Really poor... well, if some Syrtis players cant play without a spy acc...
I spy with my little eye... Actually I don't need to spy to tell you what problem you have. :D

Oh yeah, I have 3 accounts. Sue me. I didn't say anything to alsius. And i've leveled with the boost from gold dragon you got. Iirc you don't have any more of that boost, right? What did I tell alsius? Nothing, I never speak on their realm chat so they feel free to say where they're grinding so I can relog and farm some rp's, then log back to alsius and play like nothing happened. I'm sure that's what you wanted to hear, so you got it. Happy?

edit: awd, yep that's the nick, and I thought female char would go good with it. :D

-Nightchill

w_larsen
01-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Nightchill and fonzy went to alsius to help them in war because thye were low on numbers

you want to say us, that they went to alsius to help war against syrtis? :looking:

Angelwinged_Devil
01-06-2009, 05:04 PM
you want to say us, that they went to alsius to help war against syrtis? :looking:
no just to help alsius, it was before the invasions where alsius was dead and seeing a goat would be like seeing a lepricon


edit: awd, yep that's the nick, and I thought female char would go good with it.

I am so honoured 8')

Nightchill
01-06-2009, 05:10 PM
no just to help alsius, it was before the invasions where alsius was dead and seeing a goat would be like seeing a lepricon
well actually... I like alsius most out of the 3 realms, and I especially like my conjurer so far, so dunno... One thing's for sure, conju is going to at least L40. :D

Angelwinged_Devil
01-06-2009, 05:15 PM
well actually... I like alsius most out of the 3 realms, and I especially like my conjurer so far, so dunno... One thing's for sure, conju is going to at least L40. :D
I would freeze to death in real life considering how cold it is In my contry right now if I went to alsius :p.

Arafails
01-06-2009, 05:49 PM
....they need to be told by their leader (s) to shut the hell up and let the guys who know the score keep us safe and coordinated. (sorry chris...had to be said..daels getting close to being igged)

The guys who know the score? You mean the same guys who on at least three occasions, got us all group at the gate where the enemy could area the lot of us to death then decied that seeing as how we'd all died once it was pointless?

In any case, a lot of these guys are new, and levelling very fast, and learning. Learning. Not seasoned players. Eager to spill blood for Ignis. Can you blame them?

I did have a big rant there, but posting it would be as childish are you're being.

Mind you, they're hunting us a lot today. But still. STHU.

na0miiihorus
01-06-2009, 06:13 PM
Yeah, i do feel stupid now for doing that. And looking at that chat box yes it did seem to look desperate, and can i just say it was nothing to do with the greenies invading. Syrtis, you did well, congrats =] I think they did deserve both gems for that but it was just unlucky they didn't get them.

Tbh, i think it was just the fact that we, well i was sick of being save camped constantly by not all, but some greens, simon, isemon, etc.

It's a game, and like someone said we make and break aliances.

Please don't blame all Ignians, it was purely me, (can i just say, i didn't have an account, i just made a seperate one to go onto Blues) who went on and can i just apologise for what i did/said.

I don't want to get into peoples bad books, and so i hope that Reds Blues and Greens just forgive and forget about this, i've learnt my lesson and i'm sorry and i know i won't be doing it again.
Thanks =]

Nightchill i'm just agreeing with Hathor on this, you have 3 accounts, i only made another account and made a level 1 just to go and say would you like to join together for a bit..

Nightchill
01-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Nightchill i'm just agreeing with Hathor on this, you have 3 accounts, i only made another account and made a level 1 just to go and say would you like to join together for a bit..
first, it was not Hathor who said it.
second, you beg.
third, here's why I have 3 accs: http://regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showpost.php?p=604737&postcount=23

na0miiihorus
01-06-2009, 07:01 PM
Yeah well that's pretty sad

eerO
01-06-2009, 07:28 PM
Nothing, I never speak on their realm chat so they feel free to say where they're grinding so I can relog and farm some rp's, then log back to alsius and play like nothing happened.

Thats not spying? Hm, well actually its just poor. Cant you get your RP honestly?

na0miiihorus
01-06-2009, 07:36 PM
can i just say i feel very bad for doing this and it going this far. i don't want bad feeling, i take all the blame for this.

-Edge-
01-06-2009, 08:01 PM
My god will you all just shut up? Who. The. Hell. Cares???

And FFS there is no such thing as a spy, can someone explain to me how someone spies?! What do they say? Hey guys Ignis is at Herb! (We can see that on the map doofus)

Its impossible to spy, there is no information. Do you think the people that do the fightingin the warzone go to the inner zone and talk on realm chat about their glorius plans? Its also a waste of time to switch chars between realms and report back, because by the time you get back its usually too late. Even if your using teamspeak, what is information going to give you?

You can't stop an invasion, and you can't defy the innevitable. Nightchill has 3 accounts?? SOMEONE CRUCIFY HIM!

I have 5 accounts?? BURN ME AT THE STAKE!

Why would someone spy in 1 realm for cheap innerrealm info, when you can go on IRC and see whats going on in 3 realms?

Get a grip people, and stop making a book of replies everytime something happens.

Nightchill
01-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Thats not spying? Hm, well actually its just poor. Cant you get your RP honestly?
you're not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

backe
01-06-2009, 11:53 PM
meh....

Edge is 100% right on this. Spying offers no real advantage at this point.

Maybe before, when we didn't get fort status info from the map, but at this point, its just a silly waste of time. Even on Horus, where we still have Realm chat in the WZ, spying is somewhat silly. Most troop coordination is handled in party/clan/general chat anyway.

"Spying" in this game has existed since Regnum's inception, and as the game has progressed the information gathered in this matter has become more and more worthless, so arguing about it kind of futile.

Sort of on-topic, a bit off-topic as well:

I applaud all the people on Horus that have active alternate characters in other realms. NGD has done absolutely nothing to address the realm imbalance on Horus, and as such, multi-realm players have taken it upon themselves to right the balance. If you think of these players as "traitors" to their original realms, then I will remind you that the health of the server is NOT the responsibility of any one realm, but all of us.

We all play the same game, and imbalanced numbers in ANY realm lessen the fun for all of us.

Moo122334455
01-07-2009, 02:07 AM
meh....

Edge is 100% right on this. Spying offers no real advantage at this point.

Maybe before, when we didn't get fort status info from the map, but at this point, its just a silly waste of time. Even on Horus, where we still have Realm chat in the WZ, spying is somewhat silly. Most troop coordination is handled in party/clan/general chat anyway.

"Spying" in this game has existed since Regnum's inception, and as the game has progressed the information gathered in this matter has become more and more worthless, so arguing about it kind of futile.

Sort of on-topic, a bit off-topic as well:

I applaud all the people on Horus that have active alternate characters in other realms. NGD has done absolutely nothing to address the realm imbalance on Horus, and as such, multi-realm players have taken it upon themselves to right the balance. If you think of these players as "traitors" to their original realms, then I will remind you that the health of the server is NOT the responsibility of any one realm, but all of us.

We all play the same game, and imbalanced numbers in ANY realm lessen the fun for all of us.

yep, i agree to those two 100% i actually have a character on alsius that i train when i need a vacation from wars..and a couple of times ive popped into ignis to say hi, since i think its interesting to get to know the people that your constantly fighting. its not like theres anything worth spying that i couldint find out by asking someone in irc.
i would much rather be friendly towards people then be part of these huge fanatic flame wars of the realms >.>

Angel_de_Combate
01-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Ok..we got invaded...and it was an almost 1:1 ratio, we did as Arwen said...kept them back the frst time...but the second..we were spammed with noobs shouting orders, so the real orders from clan leaders were lost..so we lost a gem....

Erm so you cant tell noob orders from orders from your clan leader !!!

so the problem is this.....too many clan leaders not keeping there team in check, (of which i myslef have been guilty of doing, but now i know better)... we have a few good players that lead us well..we should listen to them more and not the idiots, and as much as it pains me to say this...the imperial guard of ignis are the worst offenders, naommi, dael, kauren, ....they need to be told by their leader (s) to shut the hell up and let the guys who know the score keep us safe and coordinated. (sorry chris...had to be said..daels getting close to being igged)

So why dont you sort this out ingame..?

and as for helping other realms...i dont agree with it. its war...3 realms all against eachother, so tough titty if you think we should help eachother...they turn on us everytime as im sure we have done to them...its wrong....whats the point of having clans in your own realm if you seek the other realms for help.....we ...ignis ...can hold our own well when people listen.

Hmm..thanks to Irc i have made contact and made friends with people from other realms..because after all this is a game. Alas war is war, you play for the realm your playing with, whether that be Alsius, Ignis or Syrtis at the time,(whatever account you have) helping other realms does go on for example..BACKE took me to a place in Alsius to get a Yeti for my hunter on Horus because i didnt know where to find them(he was on his Alsius acc), is this being in league with the enemy ?? Heavens above !! I do understand that people do have strong feelings about this, but not everybody has the same opinion, having inter-realm friends is useful for things like organised pvps, quests, grinding, help with drops, where to find mobs etc..were all in this together, despite the realm differences.


and as for realm jumping to talk to the rest and 'arrange' things....not cool, if you want to help that realm, go join them and stop leadeing the others into ambushes....and hathor...i thought out of all the people who ould have been pissed off at one of ours realm jumping and being lead into an ambush....remeber what meco did to you...now once again..your own friend and clan screwed you over. :tsk_tsk: and sorry Gallas..had to be said again

Now let me say this once..what happened with me and chris(hathor) is between me and chris, we sorted it all out so get over it already ! On a side point hmm look at what you and AKM did to him..lets see you helped him build a clan up, then you just ditched him..to help make AKM's clan..The order. Isnt what you did some how worse..being abandoned by your own clan mates ??

Anyway to make this to the point, im posting a reply because i think all this crap about inter-realm shit is lame, i mean..were all human beings playing a game together, why shouldnt we talk to whoever we want, make how many accounts we want (i have 7 btw) in whatever realms we want(yes i know were not meant to have more than one, but hey everyone does it!). Now everyone hug and make friends lol XD

<note to self, my signature is awesome>

Angelwinged_Devil
01-08-2009, 01:01 PM
@backe/@edge: Actually spying is effective, things have changed with invasions, also on horus the realm chat is worldwide so we can also communicate in the war zone, thing is the enemy with a level 1 syrtis account can know:
where we are regrouping for an assault
where we are going
what our plans are
possible war banner readings

still not enough? Ok, you all know how forts have been really reinforced with the guard captain and all, and you all know how little it takes to defend a fort against an army 3x times bigger with the guard captain pwning everyone.

If they were to know our plans of going somewhere, or some kind of strategy to fool them, they would also know entirely what is going on if we plan a sneak attack some place.

the time it takes to mobilize an army is longer than moving people to defend a fort.

Nightchill
01-08-2009, 02:11 PM
jesus christ, why the fuck are you guys mentioning IRL problems, and someone's personality here? This wasn't quite the idea of the topic, but you've turned it into personal in-realm flame war.

Not that I mind. :D

/me grabs popcorns.

-NC

Orimae
01-08-2009, 02:37 PM
nah, im done, not worth it :no:

Angelwinged_Devil
01-08-2009, 06:56 PM
nah, im done, not worth it :no:
aw come on, show was just getting started :O, now I got these popcorn for nothing XD kidding.

I think that rl problems like that should stay there and not be brought into the game, it's absolutely ridiculous and I feel sorry for the quality of ignis' warfare being downgraded by this.

-Edge-
01-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Regnum Online Soap Opera

All these names of people I don't even know. Why should there be some personal discussion going on in a public forum?

So many clans, it works in a chain, someone in a clan always breaks away and starts his own, then someone breaks from him, then someone will break from him,

Ahhh reminds me of the Circle on Ra, at least on Ra it was completed.

NT-Immortal Legends -> Edge-Empire Ignea -> Mangyokeo-Aktaksusususasuki (?) -> Valour-Immortal Legends

and so was finished the great circle said lord vader.

@backe/@edge: Actually spying is effective, things have changed with invasions, also on horus the realm chat is worldwide so we can also communicate in the war zone, thing is the enemy with a level 1 syrtis account can know:
where we are regrouping for an assault
where we are going
what our plans are
possible war banner readings

If someone is stupid enough to say all that on realm chat. I still don't belive in it, people talk in party and clan chat, and when the group is big you use general chat.

I don't belive in childish fanatics.

southpaw
01-08-2009, 11:23 PM
you guys must be really pissed off about loosing so badly yesterday at peak hours on horus, look what i saw on alsius realm chat while i was leveling meh goatzee. i must say, very lame ignis, very lame indeed.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1984m0.jpg

-NC

NC, You cant keep ur hands off alsius xmas tree, can you? And you tried to get gifts twice, you greedy bastard ! :tonguey:

Nightchill
01-09-2009, 11:21 AM
i was getting only gold from those shitty trees.

Cujodog
01-09-2009, 02:14 PM
nah, im done, not worth it :no:

One word - "pwned" :bounce5425:

_dracus_
01-09-2009, 02:56 PM
Reminds me on how I got kicked from my clan by "we know who" where I was a veterant player, for being a spy. Really guys chill out there is no such thing as spying, what can you spy that others can't know ?

Froste
01-09-2009, 06:15 PM
Dracus, on Horus there is realm chat, and spying is very much possible, intercepting army buildups, or army movements, it's a very real fact.

Angelwinged_Devil
01-09-2009, 07:30 PM
If someone is stupid enough to say all that on realm chat. I still don't belive in it, people talk in party and clan chat, and when the group is big you use general chat.

I don't belive in childish fanatics.
you don't even play on horus, I don't see how you can possible understand the importance of mobilizing an army fast enough to take a castle (most important structure in invasions.)

ncvr
01-10-2009, 12:53 AM
you don't even play on horus, I don't see how you can possible understand the importance of mobilizing an army fast enough to take a castle (most important structure in invasions.)
His Horus char is(was) Anaxes.

-Edge-
01-10-2009, 09:40 AM
you don't even play on horus,
I'll never get tired of hearing the words you don't and play in the same sentence, it seems the only argument people can ever give me is the one that all my arguments are biased because I don't play 24/7, Necrovarus said it for you.

Here are my arguments on how there is no benefit from "spying"

1.) If an army is attacking a key location like a fort or castle, its known on the map, and even announced.

2.) If an army is building up it will finish building up quickly, by the time another realm interception team comes to "disband" it, the army will have moved or will have repelled the interceptors.

3.) Players are sprawled all across the map, you can have 1 Syrtian leveling somewhere like near a bridge or in the swamp and he will tell you on realm chat if an army is coming that way. Basically there is more benefit from having levelers sprawled across the map giving information, and this is how most information is given, "spying" will never reach a level like this has had since the dawn of Regnum. This is how armies are spotted since as long as I can remeber, this is how its done everywhere. And its not spying, its just keeping your eyes open.

4.) Most of the time the location of the attacking group is well known even without ingame alerts, for reasons like I started in point 3.

5.) You end up fighting the army either way don't you? I think it hardly does you any good if you even happen to know early on, the result is the same, and that is that in most cases you will lose.

spying is very much possible, intercepting army buildups, or army movements, it's a very real fact.

Sure it is, but it takes very high coordination, and there is still little if nothing gained from it. You could have some Syrtian in an Ignis horde on Teamspeak, telling his guys back home where the army is, but what good does it really do besides getting to an army real fast? Either way, you fight.

You guys are talking about battles in this game as if only 1 side was full of players and the other was deserted only because "no one knew"

Even if it happens in the scenario I said, its still a very rare sight, and ive never seen or heard of it affecting anything.

Maybe give me a better point to support this "spying" instead of a fat slap across my face saying the trademark: "You don't play" and ill try to understand what your saying.

At the moment I can only laugh at how some people are taking this so seriously, and as if it was affecting every single outcome. Soon people will start to blame losses for spying, and from this whole senseless discussion of spying little morons are promoted by it and will go out there to try it.

Froste
01-10-2009, 03:08 PM
You're just the eternal PT Redge, you've no idea how horus works. Do you even know we've got realm chat? Do you even know anything anymore?

You go off and play whatever game suits your fancy, and then sit there and try to act the grandpa of regnum, but your knowledge is flawed, senile, GERIATRIC!


1.) If an army is attacking a key location like a fort or castle, its known on the map, and even announced.

Yes, but what if you've sent a solitary suicider to hit the door once of another fort, or even more than one, to draw the attention and confuse the enemy? If someone was spying in realm chat and it popped up that this was a ploy, well failed ploy.

2.) If an army is building up it will finish building up quickly

Sorry but you're a pt, and you're insane. Building armies doesn't ever happen fast. EVER. EEEEE-VEEEER. Maybe if you actually played you'd know that.

3.) Players are sprawled all across the map

Again, does not apply to Horus. You simply don't know what you're talking about, and trying to look smart by faking answers that turn out to be wrong, just makes you look utterly stupid.

4.) Most of the time the location of the attacking group is well known even without ingame alerts

Again untrue, doesn't take into account the invasion patch.

5.) You end up fighting the army either way don't you?

NO! NO NO NO NO. Do you even play this game? INVASION! Has nothing to do with anything you're talking about.

DkySven
01-10-2009, 03:20 PM
Although I don't think he should be that harsh to Edge I agree with Froste.

-Edge-
01-10-2009, 03:53 PM
You're just the eternal PT Redge, you've no idea how horus works. Do you even know we've got realm chat? Do you even know anything anymore?

You go off and play whatever game suits your fancy, and then sit there and try to act the grandpa of regnum, but your knowledge is flawed, senile, GERIATRIC!

I take that as a compliment crazy man :)

Ive been here, and ive done that, whether or not you belive me is up to you, the only decent argument you ever give me, is just always criticizing me because im not there, meaning in your apparently small small world. Stick to your classic bullshit, im free to give an opinion as much as you are, and I can do it without having a period and typing in caps.

You act as if I try to make a god out of myself. I'll say it right here, im nothing more than an average player like the rest of us... err I mean not like you, your better than me! Is that what you wanted to hear your holiness? The only attention thats drawn to me is apparently the load of crap you make up about me each time. And for the record you can still keep on calling me names, being plain out ignorant, use big words, and keep trying to make me fit into your view, but it dosen't help you.

But do you know something? Im not going to deny facts that I don't play now, but I did invasions, and when NGD does an update I test it, and not for an hour, I test every aspect of it. So you can finnaly shove the damn line that I never do anything straight back up your ass.


Yes, but what if you've sent a solitary suicider to hit the door once of another fort, or even more than one, to draw the attention and confuse the enemy? If someone was spying in realm chat and it popped up that this was a ploy, well failed ploy.

Thats true, but ive only seen something like that once, and in most cases the whole realm dosen't charge, if things get bad, and then you get people screaming in caps like you do here for help, then sure, I guess more people come, but as far as I know each realm dosen't stick into 1 big group making 3 giagantic groups in the warzone, hell, we all do our own thing, and whether or not we decide to go here or there is our choice.

What you are talking about is something very rare, and I still don't expect it to be a big announcment to everyone.

Sorry but you're a pt, and you're insane. And that makes you? The pope?

Building armies doesn't ever happen fast. EVER. EEEEE-VEEEER. Maybe if you actually played you'd know that.Mmm thats too bad then, your right, ive never seen clans that stick shoulder by shoulder with each other. When your making a group for hunting, the group is usually on the move, and is built up as you move. But since we're talking about invasions and nothing more you are right. I give you a point here.

Again, does not apply to Horus. You simply don't know what you're talking about, and trying to look smart by faking answers that turn out to be wrong, just makes you look utterly stupid.I look smart because I actually answer each question and give a thorough answer, instead trying to make someone look bad like you do. To actually answer your reply, it does apply to Horus, though there are less levelers in the warzone, there are still plenty of hunting parties. Really I can't understand where your getting off at, you act like every single person was in one big group. Which dosen't even make sense because you say yourself building up groups of players is such a long and dreadful process, yet you still stand by this ideal.

Again untrue, doesn't take into account the invasion patch.Wow, im offended. Since when are we talking about invasions? Or the only reason you bring it up is because its another new thing that your assuming goes on the list of the 1000 things I never saw. We are talking about so called spying, the thing thats "apparently" existed since before the dawn of Regnum lol.



NO! NO NO NO NO. Do you even play this game? INVASION! Has nothing to do with anything you're talking about.
So you want something on invasion then since you loathe the word so much? Invasions aren't affected by spying as much as anything else is. A group of players breaks into 1 key location to enter a realm, than goes for gems. The biggest outcome hangs in balance at the realm wall, this is a location ingame where tons of players flock, and attacks here are well known with, or without warnings. There is nothing that a group or player around the map can't find out that invasion can. You know what the enemy is saying? Big whoop, people don't plan and tacticize on every single word. Its just a game and nothing more, stop trying to turn it into something its not.

Please actually try to explain to me how invasions are affected by "spying" instead of spitting fire into my face.

Angelwinged_Devil
01-10-2009, 05:28 PM
Please actually try to explain to me how invasions are affected by "spying" instead of spitting fire into my face.
you throw the gasoline bro

as it is on horus now, there aren't many wz active players (you know why ;p but that's a discussion of it's own) and because of this a realm chat is also available in a realm, if you want to gather an army as quickly as possible before it gets too late, people log out etc. So you can go kick some ass. There was one time where we wanted to sneak attack shaanarid, our hunters who constantly tracked picked up nothing on their radar, we chatted in the realm chat about this.

However (this was before ignis started camping shaanarid) when we arrived at shaanarid it seemed like someone had told ignis that we were coming so they were prepared for our army at shaanarid, at this time we had a lot of people who have never tried playing in the war zone before, not only that, a castle is also a fucker to take, extra guards plus that big gorilla, horus isn't a swarm of players so we need everyone online to pwn the enemys gates.

Imagine making a plan, some sort of ingenious plan that will only work, giving names of who will do what, let's say that x warlock/barbarian whatever starts out with an initiating area, and everyone follow behind (coordinating without voice chat) and hey suddenly the enemy knows who will go first and know who they need to watch for.

It should be pretty logical actually, an old war saying gives the answer it's not the complete exact saying but it's something like "know your enemy and gain a great advantage" you can always come saying "lol but don't talk in realm chat then" what did people do on ra before realm chat was removed from the wz? It's great to tell people who arive after the party started, what's going on. As you know or may not know (hopefully know) chatting while fighting isn't really a great thing to do.

so 'tis enough for you? Will you stop the "HAH I laugh at spies and people who think there are such a thing" stuff? Because that's what the gasoline is, talking about stuff you know absolutely none of, you don't play on horus, you compare it to ra without knowing one part of the compariators which makes you sound like a "wise old man" that's why I said you don't play on horus

-Edge-
01-10-2009, 08:47 PM
[...]
so 'tis enough for you? Will you stop the "HAH I laugh at spies and people who think there are such a thing" stuff? Because that's what the gasoline is, talking about stuff you know absolutely none of, you don't play on horus, you compare it to ra without knowing one part of the compariators which makes you sound like a "wise old man" that's why I said you don't play on horus
No its still nothing different from what you said before, but enough,

But im done talking. I throw gasoline because Froste works me up, and someday I will settle things with him. However you are right that I shouldn't have taken this stupid discussion to far, I got carried away.

And for the record AwD, learn to read, I play on Horus after each update. And I think its times to go back more often, im suprised you haven't met me, because even IVE talked to you in Horus on countless occasions, whether you've noticed who I was or not. But thats good, a cover is just what I need.

Nightchill
01-10-2009, 09:41 PM
i have a great suggestion...
http://enigma.dune.net/~eric/Do-not-feed-the-troll.PNG

Angelwinged_Devil
01-11-2009, 01:14 AM
No its still nothing different from what you said before, but enough,

But im done talking. I throw gasoline because Froste works me up, and someday I will settle things with him. However you are right that I shouldn't have taken this stupid discussion to far, I got carried away.

And for the record AwD, learn to read, I play on Horus after each update. And I think its times to go back more often, im suprised you haven't met me, because even IVE talked to you in Horus on countless occasions, whether you've noticed who I was or not. But thats good, a cover is just what I need.
I don't know who you are then but anyways, you haven't seen what is displayed on the realm chat? What we're going to do? If this information is known by the enemy player, if you can't figure this out maybe you need to play more :p, when you stand at some place, with an army you have no idea what the enemy will do, imagine if you knew what they would do, you know their plan, this meant you could do the correct measures and thereby gain a great deal of advantage.

Anyway fuck it, if I can't convince you I can't convince you, you're free to believe what you want :)

misaccc
01-11-2009, 05:06 PM
PT Redge,

can i be left out of this? ^^

Angel_de_Combate
01-12-2009, 10:38 AM
I throw gasoline because Froste works me up,
Didnt you know Froste is a wind up merchant ? xD

and someday I will settle things with him.

Edge, one thing ive noticed..is this, differences in opinion never get settled here, just forgotten about and buried. However personages who want to take the time and spy, must have far too much time on their hands which would be much better spent actually defending their realm.
One question though, how come Horus have realm chat back but not Ra ?