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-Paradox-
01-21-2009, 10:17 AM
Please stop. It is annoying and painful. The whole reason events have been implemented was because the community asked for it. The players of Regnum said they should bring events into the game to keep players playing because a while ago regnum didn't have much to offer at the time (no offence NGD). So because NGD listened to the community they put in special events to keep players and make everyone happy. Now I'm seeing more and more less appreciation for it all. So please, be polite and accept the special events for fun and shutup about them. Thank you.

Inkster
01-21-2009, 10:33 AM
Good post, although i initially wasnt impressed with the xmas event, it turned out to be well worthwhile to me (had some great items).

I think a lot of people are not happy unless they have a chance to complain about something, human nature i guess.

Im looking forward to seeing what ngd come up with next for an event - something like chomp the Chilko, kill the Kailer, napalm the Niclam, poke the Ponter (...nevermind), Drop the Droid or spank the Surak perhaps ^^

Im sure what ever it is, it will be fun to do

Twinkle1
01-21-2009, 10:36 AM
id like to see everyone armed with veet strips hunting down that pain in the arse inkster...( alsius included ) :horsey:

Torin_Ironfist
01-21-2009, 11:50 AM
id like to see everyone armed with veet strips hunting down that pain in the arse inkster...( alsius included ) :horsey:
Wet noodles too.

Angel_de_Combate
01-21-2009, 01:59 PM
Please stop. It is annoying and painful. The whole reason events have been implemented was because the community asked for it. The players of Regnum said they should bring events into the game to keep players playing because a while ago regnum didn't have much to offer at the time (no offence NGD). So because NGD listened to the community they put in special events to keep players and make everyone happy. Now I'm seeing more and more less appreciation for it all. So please, be polite and accept the special events for fun and shutup about them. Thank you.

When is the next event planned btw ?

-SoL-
01-21-2009, 02:22 PM
I think for easter we should have Elmer Fudd in the game and go wabbit hunting :horsey:

Mrreality13
01-22-2009, 05:08 AM
I think for easter we should have Elmer Fudd in the game and go wabbit hunting :horsey:
make it a leader that we need 6 or 7 lvl 30 to 40 peeps to kill with say a 100 maginite drop for each person that hits it---lol:horsey:

Syd_Vicious
01-22-2009, 05:30 AM
I have no problem bagging on a special event that offers no real benefit to players. The X-mas event was the only one I have seen so far that had done so. Time spent that could have been put to bug fixing, game play issues, imbalances or quests broken by previous patches. Things that are long term that would help further the game rather than pleasing ppl short term. Plus some of these events do not take into consideration that these are international servers and display a mainly western Judeo-Christian view that not all players can connect with.

Not everyone likes the same stuff either so ppl will complain and they are free to do so. If you really don't like it then don't read the forum because as you have already seen ppl will post whatever. While I don't care for your intolerance to criticism I at least respect your right to say it.

Inkster
01-22-2009, 09:44 AM
ok let me deal with my reply to this in a certain order.

There has been if i remember correctly 3 events.

1. Aniversarry: This event not only gave the hat but a certain amount of Ximerin (something every player can use)
2. Halloween: This gave us 3 helmets and 1 warbanner if you did all 3
3. Xmas event yes another hat but also random premium items (which i had more than my fair share of)


Now, if you care to look at the changelog list you will find these events came at the same time as bugfixes, the events were put there as something different to do.

Now, the aniversarry is the equivelent to a birthday, Halloween is in no way a Judeo-Christian and xmas was origionally the winter solstice (around dec 21 is usually the shortest day of the year in the west).

Also regards to xmas trees, i had this argument with a door to door religious salesman. He stumped me with this quote:

Jeremiah 10:2-4: "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed
at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree
out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and
with hammers, that it move not." (KJV).

so again not totally a Judeo-Christian event.

IF the next event is at easter for example

Modern-day Easter is derived from two ancient traditions: one Judeo-Christian and the other Pagan. Both Christians and Pagans have celebrated death and resurrection themes following the Spring Equinox for millennia. Most religious historians believe that many elements of the Christian observance of Easter were derived from earlier Pagan celebrations.

The equinox occurs each year on March 20, 21 or 22. Both Neopagans and Christians continue to celebrate religious rituals linked to the equinox in the present day. Wiccans and other Neopagans usually hold their celebrations on the day or eve of the equinox. Western Christians wait until the Sunday on or after the next full moon. The Eastern Orthodox churches follow a different calculation; their celebration is often many weeks after the date selected by the Western churches.

Making this event varied in the terms of belief also.

So to sum it up only halloween had items that were not of real use (apart for 1 warbanner)
All the events were quite fun to do (which was what they were designed to be)
none of the events were totally Judeo-Christian
bugfixes were put in place the same time as each event.

Yes people will complain about a free game with free content as complaining is also free. Thats human nature

-Paradox-
01-22-2009, 10:38 AM
I have no problem bagging on a special event that offers no real benefit to players. The X-mas event was the only one I have seen so far that had done so. Time spent that could have been put to bug fixing, game play issues, imbalances or quests broken by previous patches. Things that are long term that would help further the game rather than pleasing ppl short term. Plus some of these events do not take into consideration that these are international servers and display a mainly western Judeo-Christian view that not all players can connect with.

Not everyone likes the same stuff either so ppl will complain and they are free to do so. If you really don't like it then don't read the forum because as you have already seen ppl will post whatever. While I don't care for your intolerance to criticism I at least respect your right to say it.

Enjoying one self in the game while it develops seem to be a benefit to me. If you think materialism is the only benificial nature then why are you playing a free to play game that's practically in beta? As inkster has said, bug fixes came with each of the event updates so they do work to updates and fixing features in the game. What fun would a game be if they only invested long term? They would want players to stay so that have to make a balance between long and short term. Otherwise there will be no or very few players by the time the long term has paid off. If you had a brain you would know this as it isn't rocket science, simple common sense.

If you are offended by the events in this game leave. The developers have every right to put in what they want. There is no international laws saying they can't. They could put in Hanukkah and the Chinese new year. I wouldn't mind as it's just a game. A game that creates fun events for players to keep them entertained. Events was a community based idea so NGD put it in as respect to the community.

Angel_de_Combate
01-22-2009, 10:40 AM
When is the next event planned btw ?

Captain Kailer when is the next event planned for ?

_dracus_
01-22-2009, 11:08 AM
Captain Kailer when is the next event planned for ?

Maybe Easter ? I remember an event on the WoW server I was playing for Easter. We all had to search Easter eggs and finds candy and items in it. It was pretty fun.

Inkster
01-22-2009, 11:11 AM
Captain Kailer when is the next event planned for ?


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r33/Inkie_04/captain-caveman1.jpg


oh wrong captain ^^

Angel_de_Combate
01-22-2009, 11:12 AM
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r33/Inkie_04/captain-caveman1.jpg


oh wrong captain ^^

Captain caveman rocks !! lol

lord_dvl
01-22-2009, 11:31 AM
Hi

I donīt see the point. Some people said that will be better that NGD not make those special events?, why do they say that?.

I think that NGD, with this events, make another way to have fun in Regnum, and donīt have any complaint of it.

Besides, they are making a good job with the new animations, they look really great.

Regards.
PD: Oh captain, my captain..........:horsey:

Syd_Vicious
01-22-2009, 06:45 PM
We could go into a total discussion about about Mithra (Xmas), Samhain (halloween) and the other "adopted" holidays, but I was not referring to a history lesson or theological discussions on the Western World. What I was getting at is that not everyone on an international level practices these events nor cares for them. Also after events are over any items you receive decrease your hp when you wear them so its like a punishment later for participation. Time spent on flashy new animations is time not devoted to other issues that actually effect game-play. I guess I will never know why ppl want mini games to take a break from a game, while still inside the game. I just log out and play other games at that time, support RO but also support other developers that make good games.

I agree with Paradox that short and long term goals need to have a unison, but if they are going to add content I would prefer it be RO related content.
Ink you forgot the new years patch where they added fireworks, big whoop.

Inkster
01-22-2009, 06:54 PM
the added fireworks had nothing to do with any event quest and would have been off topic, so were not mentioned

Torin_Ironfist
01-23-2009, 01:22 AM
I don't see why I should get punished for wearing event hats. I gave up my armor points to wear it and I want to show it off. I had a booming hat sales business going until the -hp was initiated on the Santa hats. It was the only headgear a goat could wear :)...oops back on topic. No negative health after you give up armor points to show some RO pride.

-Paradox-
01-23-2009, 05:23 AM
We could go into a total discussion about about Mithra (Xmas), Samhain (halloween) and the other "adopted" holidays, but I was not referring to a history lesson or theological discussions on the Western World. What I was getting at is that not everyone on an international level practices these events nor cares for them. Also after events are over any items you receive decrease your hp when you wear them so its like a punishment later for participation. Time spent on flashy new animations is time not devoted to other issues that actually effect game-play. I guess I will never know why ppl want mini games to take a break from a game, while still inside the game. I just log out and play other games at that time, support RO but also support other developers that make good games.

I agree with Paradox that short and long term goals need to have a unison, but if they are going to add content I would prefer it be RO related content.
Ink you forgot the new years patch where they added fireworks, big whoop.

If you do not care for such holidays well no one is forcing you to participate in them. You are right however on the punishments for decreasing hp. I will not argue that point. My guess is that people want mini games in one big game so that they can have constant amounts of fun. Many level 50's stop playing because they have nothing left to do except capture and defend forts. So the mini games help entertain these individual therefore keeping players for NGD. Plus you never know, NGD might enjoy making these events and the developers need to make sure they are enjoying their game otherwise they will lose interest and Regnum Online could possibly come to a halt.

The fireworks were just some more fun for the players and caused extra revenue for a short staffed development team that, as NGD has said before, are spending more money on the game than they are making from it.

Angel_de_Combate
01-23-2009, 10:15 AM
I don't see why I should get punished for wearing event hats. I gave up my armor points to wear it and I want to show it off. I had a booming hat sales business going until the -hp was initiated on the Santa hats. It was the only headgear a goat could wear :)...oops back on topic. No negative health after you give up armor points to show some RO pride.

Capitalising on the RO events then eh..? How much gold did you make, like how much per hat ? :D

as NGD has said before, are spending more money on the game than they are making from it.

Doesnt this show much they love the game ? Sometimes(NGD) they get too much flack. I think the events are great (if sometimes frustrating !), its gets players and realms working together, whats wrong with a bit of fun. :D

-Edge-
01-23-2009, 10:28 AM
Paradox is right, but in my opinion to a certain extent. Like Inkster said its just human nature to complain about something, some of us like myself even take it to extreme's and hunt down every aspect of it like a critic :D I could make a book on the faults in this game if I wanted to.

However deep down we are grateful for the game, and we are grateful for everything, its obvious even when it isn't said. If something really bothered us we surely wouldn't be here. You don't need to look like a hero of NGD and remind us Paradox.

You are right however on the punishments for decreasing hp. I will not argue that point.Niclam said those items have negative HP because they want to make the game more realistic. And really, how does someone fight with a giant pumpkin on their head, or a party hat? Those are just items for collecting.



The only argument I have to events is that not everyone can participate in them, or get a prize or something from it. The christmas hats for instance required alot of searching. I opened almost 20 trees and gave up. There weren't alot of spawns either.

When it comes to the case of Easter it dosen't matter if its a Christian holiday. Tons of games give easters eggs and those kinds of things. The game isn't Christian anyway, remeber in Ignis we have a hyena god, a snake god, and a panther god. Epic. Anyway I won't be suprised if NGD does easter, NGD is starting to suprise people more and more.

Angel_de_Combate
01-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Anyway I won't be suprised if NGD does easter, NGD is starting to suprise people more and more.

Does this mean we'll get Easter eggs for hats ? lol

Inkster
01-23-2009, 10:45 AM
something of interest about easter

"Ishtar", which is pronounced "Easter" was a day that commemorated the resurrection of one of their gods that they called "Tammuz", who was believed to be the only begotten son of the moon-goddess and the sun-god.

But i wanna hat from a quest to look like an egghead ^^

Angel_de_Combate
01-23-2009, 10:48 AM
But i wanna hat from a quest to look like an egghead ^^


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egghead ^^ :D

Anpu
01-23-2009, 10:52 AM
http://deuxmains.unblog.fr/files/2008/06/calimero.gif

Angel_de_Combate
01-23-2009, 10:56 AM
http://deuxmains.unblog.fr/files/2008/06/calimero.gif

www.brianmicklethwait.com/culture/egghead.jpg

Why does this look disturbing ? Yours was just cute anpu :D

-Paradox-
01-24-2009, 08:42 AM
You don't need to look like a hero of NGD and remind us Paradox.


I apologise but I was not trying to give off the impression I was a hero.



Niclam said those items have negative HP because they want to make the game more realistic. And really, how does someone fight with a giant pumpkin on their head, or a party hat? Those are just items for collecting.


This isn't meant to attack you but wouldn't it be more realistic if having a santa hat did nothing to your stats? Only disadvantage you by not having the extra protection of a helmet? If a soldier was to wear a santa hat into war I doubt they become more fragile because of it...

Anpu
01-24-2009, 10:53 AM
I dont understand why those hats need to have negative hp and why fireworks are removed. I really dont understand that logic of NGD (comparing to many other games).

First, if I want to wear santa hat instead of helm (with armor and bonuses it has), its my choice. As its written in suggestion article I posted, people like to look cool, and you should allow them. Looking "cool" in game is more satisfaction for players while playing a game, and more investing time and money in game.

Also, so what if New year event passed? Why cant I fire couple of fireworks when some of my friends graduate? Or when we do clan event? And why i cant wear party hat then and in fort war after grad, so all can know we are celebrating?

It s totally stupid limiting players in the name of some "realistic" game image. Sometimes I wonder who is making all those wrong steps in the name of NGD, cause it really doesn't understand players' needs. I see that NGD is trying to improve game, but they always make first wrong step and then hotfix for it after some time, when "damage" is done. :tsk_tsk:

-Edge-
01-24-2009, 01:05 PM
I apologise but I was not trying to give off the impression I was a hero.


Sorry if I percieved it that way then

This isn't meant to attack you but wouldn't it be more realistic if having a santa hat did nothing to your stats? Only disadvantage you by not having the extra protection of a helmet? If a soldier was to wear a santa hat into war I doubt they become more fragile because of it...
Of course what you say is more realistic, im just saying, thats what Niclam explained to us when they introduced the first party hats. No one knows why its like that, its a shame because Uthgars can actually wear the hats.

He said something about a jester wearing a hat... or some example like that, im too lazy to find it.

-Paradox-
01-25-2009, 05:16 AM
Of course what you say is more realistic, im just saying, thats what Niclam explained to us when they introduced the first party hats. No one knows why its like that, its a shame because Uthgars can actually wear the hats.


Glad we are on the same level then. :)


...


These are all excellent points. I wish NGD would read this and re-think the steps they have taken to their game. It's a real let down that they ruin the small things that can really effect the game play.

ByteMe
01-25-2009, 06:52 AM
Does this mean we'll get Easter eggs for hats ? lol

I want bunny ears!