Where are honor and grandeur in warzone ?

[Rezekstanian]

Hi,

(caution: provoking topic :D )

All I see in warzone are level 50s hunting down already wounded lower levels, or 45+ teams repeatedly preying on lone ennemies. Where is honor, where is grandeur ? Do you feel proud of your deeds ? Did Alexander The Great achieve his greatness whilst smashing flies on a wall or stomping ants ? Did your courage evaporate when you reached highest levels ?

Please self-called 'great' ones, do something challenging enough for you instead of only collecting easy rp. Lead great battles, organize your forces to conquer gems and realms, that is your 'job'.

[DkySven]

The challenging part about hunting is not killing the lonely low level hurted player or the group of low level hurted players, but the challenge is staying alive.

[Torin_Ironfist]

My job is terrorism, kill every enemy and leave nobody standing. If you give somebody the benefit of the doubt you will end up dead. Mercy will only bite you in the ass and leave you regretting it later.

[Foggia]

Warzone is a war place. Honor and grandeur are unnecessary options. Eat or be eaten. If u dont have a fang to bite (read: u are too low lvl) - train in inner zone, or expect someone who has already developed it will kill u.

[Rezekstanian]

Okay. My buddies and i will wait before your gate and kill you each time you dare to step in warzone :D Will you still come in ? We will so become great and respected warriors...

Since there is neither dishonor nor consequences to be killed, only aiming to stay alive is no honor. Challenge is the honor and the pleasure in the game.

[ncvr]

Okay. My buddies and i will wait before your gate and kill you each time you dare to step in warzone :D Will you still come in ?
Yes. Why not?

[Torin_Ironfist]

I will get a bigger group to hunt you :)

[Rezekstanian]

:lol:

Seriously, i never stab in the back a kneeling character, never attack one who is stuck in a game bug or victim of an obvious lag or otherwise immobile since minutes. It is not my way of play.

[Foggia]

:lol:

Seriously, i never stab in the back a kneeling character, never attack one who is stuck in a game bug or victim of an obvious lag or otherwise immobile since minutes. It is not my way of play.

So dont be amused when this person attacks u 1 minute later when u are in trouble :)

[Rezekstanian]

Are there any more moral-guided warriors than these street-level merciless bloodthirsty murderers or level 50-"i plan to kill one more goblin today" ? :D What is your style of character ?

[Foggia]

Are there any more moral-guided warriors than these street-level merciless bloodthirsty murderers or level 50-"i plan to kill one more goblin today" ? :D What is your style of character ?

Very simple - run from stronger enemies, fight equal/weaker. And Im afraid this is gamestyle of vast majority of RO players, at least these who have revealed that enemy u spare is enemy who stabs u in the back u as soon as it has an oppurtunity.

[Znurre]

If someone is kneeling/bowing to me, and I'm alone, I might spare their lives.
If I go hunting near a save/near a gate, I always do it for the challenge of facing the allies of the guy we're killing.

For example, at Syrtis central save it can be damn fun.
You can trigger big 20vs20 battles there only by killing a few levelers.

[Cool_is_i]

So dont be amused when this person attacks u 1 minute later when u are in trouble :)

iv helped so many people like this, i never used to attk people who where kneeling, the next min, ur lying dead at their feet with his buddies behind them.

I dont give a crap now, ill attack saves if i have too [not camp], no ones shown me kindness, i shall give none in return.

Thats how the WZ is now, you cant often receive kindness from ppl....

But seriously tho, its a warzone, what do u expect?

[UmarilsStillHere]

Is see the guy, I kill the guy (most of the time)

Because from experiance I know that 9/10 times that person will come try kill me minuits later, proberly with a group of others from his/her clan.

[Aries202]

Theres no reason to these threads, your gonna die if you train in war zone. People hunt to kill, NOT TO SPARE YOUR LIFE. If you need to gate camp sure why not, your not gonna be there for long. :lol:

[lala110593]

honor does not exist in this GAME, its a GAME get over it, no1 cares what alexander the great did, he isnt in this game, just suck it up, if your afraid of being killed by higher lvls... dont go into the wz.. simple.

-glulose

[Rezekstanian]

if your afraid of being killed by higher lvls... dont go into the wz.. simple.
-glulose
Theres no reason to these threads, your gonna die if you train in war zone.
It is not what this topic is about. I'm not afraid of being killed in wz. I just don't want to have to spend 2 years of mindless-training before being able to have fun in wz.

Anyway, talking about it, until then i'm pissed off being always tracked and killed by the same level-50's who don't even use their skills and time to make war, i mean RvR, raiding forts, etc.

[Angel_de_Combate]

Welcome to the jungle..its a dog eat dog world...etc etc etc...

[_dracus_]

My only honnor is to fight. To do so I use my skills, when with my hunter my skills are to be sneaky.

[Angel_de_Combate]

My only honnor is to fight. To do so I use my skills, when with my hunter my skills are to be sneaky.

Ninja style sneaky :)

[_dracus_]

Ninja style sneaky :)

Yes, lvl 19 short bow makes wonders!

[Nightchill]

Hi,

(caution: provoking topic :D )

All I see in warzone are level 50s hunting down already wounded lower levels, or 45+ teams repeatedly preying on lone enemies. Where is honor, where is grandeur ? Do you feel proud of your deeds ? Did Alexander The Great achieve his greatness whilst smashing flies on a wall or stomping ants ? Did your courage evaporate when you reached highest levels ?

Please self-called 'great' ones, do something challenging enough for you instead of only collecting easy rp. Lead great battles, organize your forces to conquer gems and realms, that is your 'job'.
there's no honor & grandeur in killing afker or low level grinder. there's just sexual satisfaction you get from teabagging the guy if he doesn't rezz on time (well sometimes it turns out to be rimming if a guy like fuerst doesn't rezz for 30mins of teabagging). works for me, makes me tick.

oh btw, did you know alexander the great liked boys?

-nightchill

[lala110593]

lol, hunters rnt the best class to start wars, thats why they are called hunters, they hunt u down. often there isnt enough people to start wars (in horus at least) so we are forced to find the grinders, listen we all had to go through this, i was hunted down plenty of times while grinding, its not a big deal. the game isnt pure rvr, its so much more, theres pvp, HUNTING, and other aspects... if the game was just meant for rvr, you would only be able to kill ppl in forts or smtn. you wont get any sympathy from anyone here, in fact from many hunters i know, these threads make them happy, and fuel them to hunt even more.... like pano told me once, if grinders are angry, that means a hunter is doing his/her job correctly, more or less.

and btw u cant tell us what our "job" is, this is a game our "job" is to have FUN, and well killing afkers or grinders is fun and stays withing rules as far as i know, i personally love killing afkers, teach them a lesson for going afk in wz, caught 3 in herb save twice in a row, was hilarious.

-glulose

[Angel_de_Combate]

oh btw, did you know alexander the great liked boys?


I didnt know that...how do you know that ? :lol:

[Angel_de_Combate]

Yes, lvl 19 short bow makes wonders!

I miss my bows :ohill:

[Nightchill]

I didnt know that...how do you know that ? :lol:
i'm a fanboy :D

[StoryTeller]

Where is honor, where is grandeur ?

I think I killed them back at PB2. I had Rape and Pillage with me.

Lulz

[Jedi-x]

I love these kind of threads ............... people begging for mercy.

If you want mercy ........ stay out of the "WAR ZONE" ....... pretty simple.
It's called the war zone for a reason. I believe the most known phrase is " All is fair in Love and War" ... guess what, this is the war zone, anything is fair.

My hunter searches for enemies, when I scan them, I go find them, once found, they are killed. THAT IS MY JOB !!!! I am a Hunter, therefore I hunt. If you don't want to be hunted, stay in the " SAFE ZONE " and it will never be a problem.

Just my 2 cents

[Inkster]

I almost always honor my opponants, the nastier way i think of killing them the better. 'Tis an honor to be killed by an Ink and aggro mob combo, last one was in pozo.

All i will say about it is .....THORKUL ROCKS XD

[Leg_The_Marks]

We all play this game with honor and grandeur but NGD added a filter for that a few updates ago and just killing at site passes by it.

Btw, with the new update we should have a harakiri spell for dieing with honour ;)

[Miraculix]

Where are honor and grandeur in warzone ?

Honor: To kill as much of the enemy as you can.
Grandeur: To kill more of the enemy than your allies.

To say the exact opposite of what the Red Baron once said to the pilots he was training, "we're butchers, not sportsmen".

It's tough love baby.

[StoryTeller]

I don't think anyone can express it better than that Miraculix!

'nuff said

:closed1:

[Flightcap]

I have to stand with Rezekstanian a bit on this one. Regnum is a harsh, cruel place already without running up and killing off a "very easy" for the fun of it. I play Regnum not just for the fun of killing but for the last dying bits of chivalry that are still out there. Today me and three others let go an "easy" ignis because there was really no point in killing him. (Granted, we got him down to 10 hp, but that wasn't my doing :p). I think Regnum would be a much less hate-filled place if there was more of that kind of spirit. Wars are more than smash the other guy harder than he smashed you. There's a bigger victory to be gained.

[Torin_Ironfist]

No, you are a terrorist in the warzone. Your objective is to inflict as much damage on the enemy as possible. Granted it is nice to have a good fort war, but other than that it is kill or be killed. Every enemy spared is just another enemy to kill you when they get the chance. Mercy only bites you in the ass.

[Flightcap]

No offense, but attitudes like those are exactly the reason that mercy oftentimes bites you in the rear. Even if I am in the small minority, I prefer my chivalrous ideals to what seems like nothing but rp greed or a "kill em all win em all" way of thinking.

[Angel_de_Combate]

I have to stand with Rezekstanian a bit on this one. Regnum is a harsh, cruel place already without running up and killing off a "very easy" for the fun of it. I play Regnum not just for the fun of killing but for the last dying bits of chivalry that are still out there. Today me and three others let go an "easy" ignis because there was really no point in killing him. (Granted, we got him down to 10 hp, but that wasn't my doing :p). I think Regnum would be a much less hate-filled place if there was more of that kind of spirit. Wars are more than smash the other guy harder than he smashed you. There's a bigger victory to be gained.

Hmmm..<thinks a bit>.. why did you get him down to 10 hp only to let him go ?..that seems a bit pointless if you really wanted to chivalrous..you would just let him go..end of. If you start letting the easy ones go..they come back with their "harder" mates and beat the sh*t out of you. Im all for chivalry(not much of it in real life either), but really it only ever happens when you know the other char from the realm, other than that you paste em :D

[Angelwinged_Devil]

No offense, but attitudes like those are exactly the reason that mercy oftentimes bites you in the rear. Even if I am in the small minority, I prefer my chivalrous ideals to what seems like nothing but rp greed or a "kill em all win em all" way of thinking.
I second this, also just because you are able of being an asshole doesn't mean you have to be one.
there's someone controlling the other char you're killing too who might not be having fun with what you're doing.

[Angel_de_Combate]

I second this, also just because you are able of being an asshole doesn't mean you have to be one.
there's someone controlling the other char you're killing too who might not be having fun with what you're doing.

The wise one has spoken..everyone bow your heads..:D

[Angelwinged_Devil]

The wise one has spoken..everyone bow your heads..:D
thank you :) a common mistake in online games is that people forget they aren't fighting npcs or bots like in single player games but human people, imagine if everyone in soccer punched the teeth out of the opponent when no one was looking (or any other sport)

[Nightchill]

meh... mercy is for pussies.


anyway, try this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6My66lv1EI) to escape your enemy next time you see him in wz.

[Angel_de_Combate]

thank you :) a common mistake in online games is that people forget they aren't fighting npcs or bots like in single player games but human people, imagine if everyone in soccer punched the teeth out of the opponent when no one was looking (or any other sport)

Np :) Ive let people go, im not saying i havent but most times it goes unrewarded so to speak, but most good deeds are right xD

[Inkster]

Joking aside from my last post here, i honor my realm by helping players wherever i can, (be it helping kick out hunting parties, information for quests or advice for setups)

i dont trust any other realm players who stand there waving and bowing (to this there are a couple of exceptions) reason being, while they are waving and bowing, they are calling in their realm mates - seen it once too often so regardsless of who they are (exceptions excluded) they are fair prey

as for grandeur - it has no place in this game i think

[rogueish]

I have to admit it used to really annoy me when a hunter higher lvl than myself repeatedly showed up near my realm gate and killed me while grinding. I took it as a lesson in how to play the game however by simply adopting their tactic and going to their gate area and killing their realms players lower lvl than myself while while grinding. My grinding still gets interupted but at least i get the satisfaction of payback in kind. What comes around goes around.

[Evola]

Of course, everyone chooses his own tactic and style of war actions. Ones who wanna be terrorist killing every enemy they meet, dont regards level, hp left or position, may act this way and, no doubt, they will. Those who want to show grandeur in wz will show it anyway.

As for me, I love wild party hunt where every enemy caught by us will be bashed and smashed as if he got into deadly storm. On the other hand, in single PvP I dont find any fun to kill weak or hardly wounded opponent (im married and dont fap on RP :D ). Fighting with close levels, especially different class, is competition in tactics, skilling and artfulness of war. Even defeats show me my weak sides and help to tune better my setup, advance tactics and so on.

Also I understand what spared enemy optionally may kill me unfair in future. But it was my choice to show mercy and it will be his choice to doesn't.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Joking aside from my last post here, i honor my realm by helping players wherever i can, (be it helping kick out hunting parties, information for quests or advice for setups)

i dont trust any other realm players who stand there waving and bowing (to this there are a couple of exceptions) reason being, while they are waving and bowing, they are calling in their realm mates - seen it once too often so regardsless of who they are (exceptions excluded) they are fair prey

as for grandeur - it has no place in this game i think
you have spared me :') I love you inkster!

[DuoMaxwell]

Okay. My buddies and i will wait before your gate and kill you each time you dare to step in warzone :D Will you still come in ?

Go right on ahead, I'd expect no less, while you're doing that we'll be camping your main save with 50 guys. Lets have some Amon Amarth? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuvQt8_XFww

Maybe some Bolt Thrower? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bc-ZC1EF18

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[octopus]

My random thoughts on honor in Regnum:

Normally, I kill every opponent I get the chance to. I try to be somewhat honorable when the opportunity arises though.

Last year I took my conjurer hunting alone, and found a low-level warrior grinding, near death. I killed him from behind. About 5 minutes later, I found the same guy, again fighting a mob, low on HP. I hit him a couple times, got him near death, then stopped shooting, because there was no point in killing him again. I stopped, he turned, bowed, I bowed back, and went on my way. I left with a good feeling, much nicer than the 5 RP I would have gotten. A few minutes later, he created an Alsius character, logged in, and asked why I didn't kill him. Anyway it was an opportunity to make a friend, and I felt honored that he did this.

A couple days ago, a friend and myself knocked a low-level (30 or less) mage from a horse, and got them near death, then stopped attacking. We figured it was somebody new probably wanting to explore, and no big wars were going on. We waved at each other for a minute, prepared to let them go, then they zapped one of us with their staff, so we finished the job. Again, I felt good, because I gave the newcomer a chance to live.

On the other hand, I can be a real jerk if pissed off. I was killed most dishonorably by a syrtis barbarian a few weeks ago. I and another Alsius were fighting side by side with some Syrtis, attempting to invade Ignis. Suddenly this syrtis barbarian turns on me and kills me. Well I can say honestly I've killed or helped to kill him more than 50 times since then. He's the first to receive my Death Sentence when he charges in battle, and rarely lives more than 5 seconds after that. Payback's a bitch. :)

[Nightchill]

shooting at them to near death is toying with them. there's less honor in that then straight killing em. i'd say you're even less honorable then ppl that molest low lvl grinders.

[misaccc]

Very simple - run from stronger enemies, fight equal/weaker

am i the only one who usualy does the oposite? ^^

[Torin_Ironfist]

shooting at them to near death is toying with them. there's less honor in that then straight killing em. i'd say you're even less honorable then ppl that molest low lvl grinders.
I agree, when I was in the 30's grinding in the warzone I didn't mind getting killed because I could always respawn, but I was trapped by a hunting party once. They did not kill me, the froze me and knocked me down while I was trying to grind, this was imo worse than getting killed instantly.

[Angel_de_Combate]

am i the only one who usualy does the oposite? ^^


Nope :guitar:

[Cod]

when i grind i often got killen by a group of syrtis hunters.. that piss me off a lot cause im in grinding setup and i cant even defend myself :ranting:.. what i do is annoncing their arrive in realm chat and i always find someone ready to kill them (who knows why? :rolleyes: ).. and the fact they kill me braking my grinding rythme just make me grind faster with the goal to kick their asses someday when they show up :devil:

all of this to say.. that being hunted isnt bad in itself is how do u react that makes the difference

[Ulmanyar]

My honour lies within my klingon heart.. right?

[Angel_de_Combate]

My honour lies within my klingon heart.. right?

Erm right <?> lol

[zeevzeev]

no wars, no fights, nothing of the past had honour. ther'es not much of it and there never was. the point of war is to win, no matter how. many people were slaughtered at their peace treaty or in their sleep. seriously tho, we don't have to be like that. i'm underhanded in that i'll kill someone higher lvl if i get the chance, fake aly him, wave, grind together a bit. as soon as he's hurt hes dead. (or, on the other hand, i'm the one that gets screwed. ) but a noob grinding? if he attacks me, he asked for it. otherwise, YOU DON'T EVEN GET THAT MUCH RP. it's not worth it. slap him up a bit, show him who's boss, sure. show some kindness.

on the other hand, ignis: THEY KICKED US OUT OF THE LAND OF BOUNTY FOR USING MAGIC THEY DON'T LIKE. WE SHOULD USE IT IF IT LETS US LIVE.
syrtis: THEY USED FORBIDEN MAGIC, AND NOW TRY AND SLAUGHTER US AT EVERY OPERTUNITY. THEY CONTAMINATED THEMSELVES WITH A DARK RITUAL.
alsius: YOU KILLED OUR EMPORER WHEN HE WAS TRYING TO NEGOTIATE PEACE!! @#$%^&#

all: HERETICS!!!! KILL THE HERETICS!!!!.

these are your arch enemies. they deserve death. (at least from a role playing point of vue.)

[Twinkle1]

Goes to buy a Rearly Rearly big jar of lollypops to pass out to all the under 40's i come across. Pat them on the head and say suck your lolly hun n grind away in peace my lill noob freind, and walk off waveing.
the problem is that son of a bitch will cry to his lill mates and before you no it hundreds of them are at your save, and you can bet they aint passing out lollys.
they have to learn to fight higher lvl's as wel as lower ones.
Anyone who lvl's in war zone and is under lvl 40. grind in a group and maybe try to have higher lvls nere bye or you will die "simple".
if our new player are having problems with enemy and they tell us we will go help them, and if possible stay in the area untill it calms down.
and i dont see how you can have honour in a game were the 3 realms dont use the same honour code.
so as it stands at the moment the only good enemy is a dead one.

[UmarilsStillHere]

these are your arch enemies. they deserve death.

Eeek?

(at least from a role playing point of vue.)

Whew :)

Honor and Grandeur exist only as long as it suits everyone, at the super bosses proved.

[chris32finney]

On my hunter (getting there) I'll pick you All off when grinding, (but i wont camp you) i'll move on. But you dare camp any of IGI i'll hunt you down like i did biwie today. Move on, fair enough "camp my clan" face the wrath of the hath.

[Miraculix]

On my hunter (getting there) I'll pick you All off when grinding, (but i wont camp you) i'll move on. But you dare camp any of IGI i'll hunt you down like i did biwie today. Move on, fair enough "camp my clan" face the wrath of the hath.

The what of the who now? xD

[UmarilsStillHere]

The what of the who now? xD

I think some guy called "hath" is going to beat us all up if we camp, one man war on a issue that has existed since RO's birth, I like this guy allready :P

Ill still smash his head in if I run into him though ^^

[coolvibe]

I'll unload my arrows on everone from another realm than mine. If they have a higher lvl than me, I will at least try to bite back when they attack me. I've seen lvl 40+ run from me because they got slapped around the ears by my arcana strikes. OTOH, I get killed too sometimes. So what. Part of the game. I'm not bitter :)

-- Sanguinus