"Realm Imbalance", "Speed Hacks", and Other Things Cried Out By Sore Losers

[WhateverUSMC]

So, maybe I'm arriving a little bit late to this subject, but this has been eating at me, like some kind of online-fueled melanoma.

I have always been cursed (?) with the ability to see 2 sides of every argument. For everything on earth, there are at least two different viewpoints.

However, with respect to this 'realm imbalance' complaint, and the people who post it;I just don't see it 2 ways. The server I play on (Horus) is, as I understand it (please correct me if I am wrong on this point) available to anyone across the globe. Any person who wishes to play RO is able to log into Horus and start playing.

Always, at the forefront of every 'Imbalance' complaint, is Ignis. 'Ignis keeps invading us.' 'When is NGD going to make this game fair?'.

Whoo-whoo! Here's the clue train, last stop; you. The reason Ignis has been so successful is that they know what they're doing; they know how to play, they understand the concept of tactics, and they have great leadership. There's no realm imbalance; Ignis simply plays better. You're tired of being invaded? Make it stop. Stop wasting your time complaining about the blatant unfairness of life and Do Better.

On to this 'Speed hack' thing. This is actually part of a much larger problem; namely, the 'You Cheated' Witch Hunt that occurs anytime Ignis so much as farts is the general direction of their keyboards.

As far as the Speed Hack accusation specifically, I can only say; learn how to us a calculator.

These accusations are coming from a very suspect direction; see if any of this sounds familiar; people who create level one characters to steal the gems from Ignis, to listen into Igniss' realm chat, to join Ignis in the voting (at the moment, that's pretty much the only way for the other realms to SEE the dragon, other than doing an image search on Google), who wait by the save points in a usually successful attempt to gain RP, who break up the WZ PvPs , who allow other realms characters to come inside and commit suicide to keep Ignis from getting the gem, and who also think that 'zerging' is a tactic. But *Ignis* cheats. Right.....

A.A.s' definition of insanity is doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different result. Again, learn to play better. That's the answer. Not making up nonsense reasons to cover up the fact that you were soundly beaten. Although, the fact that Ignis keeps winning, despite the above-mentioned dishonorable behavior, probably means that Alsius and Syrtus has its work cut out for it.

Enjoy your digital selves.

Wyatt Earp
M*A*S*H 4077

[DkySven]

First, not everyone has access to Horus, people in Spanish and Portuguese countries can't log in at Horus. Also, tell me what this has to do with tactics and why it isn't realm imbalance:
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/SeriousWB/screenshot2009-02-0105_21_52.jpg

[WhateverUSMC]

So what is NGD supposed to do? Dictate which realm people join? There's a word for that; FACISM.

It still goes back to this; play better. If you guys played better, you might actually win, and people will stop going to Ignis.

[Envy]

Ignorance is bliss.

[DkySven]

So what is NGD supposed to do? Dictate which realm people join? There's a word for that; FACISM.

It still goes back to this; play better. If you guys played better, you might actually win, and people will stop going to Ignis.
Saying there is not such a thing as realm imbalance won't help either. Also, no matter how good you play, against 20 players 5 people won't do much.

[Caelia]

Ignis is not the only realm with good players, good tactics and good leadership.

If you fail to see that, then perhaps glasses are needed ^^

[Torg_Snowflake]

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[-SoL-]

Wow this is a thread created by someone who shouldn't be talking!!
Syrtis cheats ehh! yeah you guys actually opened the portal by cheating having a noob go into syrtis and take the gem that was dropped into the wz and bring it to ignis who ran it back to there Realm!!! so don't try and act innocent! And any realm who has the best tactics is by far alsuis they lack the numbers to invade sadly!
And Tactics is tactics but invading at hours that you know you will have little to no resistence is just shameful it ruins the point of the game!!
and you would also have a problem with it if you were on the losing team! for obvious reasons!
Back Before invasions when syrtis dominated the globe ignis created 12 threads a day bad mouthing syrtis making up the most stupid things! just for the sake of trying to make us look bad!
We make threads about ignis but it's actually the truth! that ignis has cheated to invade! and open the portal!
.................................................. .................................................. ....

I Wanna Say One last thing! you wanna prove ignis's Skill to us and So called supieror Tactics! Try to invade in The Most Active Times! (15:00gmt - 23:00gmt)
I doubt ignis would try such at thing since all of there domination has been during most peoples Sleeping Hours!!! Ohh Sorry All There Domination!!

Good Luck Fighting Npc's

-Slayer Of Light

[n4gh4sh]

Ignis is not the only realm with good players, good tactics and good leadership.
Show it, not just talk about it. Every1 can be strong with his/her mouth and not prove his/her words when they should.

If u see Ignis "zerg", count how much low levels there are. I was seriously taking part in only one invasion (about week ago when we only got 1 gem from u). You had about 20ppl at the gate (some of them were low levels of course, but we also had low levels in our "swarm"). But when we get inside we were able to walk across ur realm (Syrtis[Horus]) without any problem. Without any coordinated action from you guys. How do you think you can stop us if you even don't do anything for half an hour except sitting at the gate and waiting for us?

So when we come at last to the gate you were mostly surprised, doesn't know what to do. One Tremor from me and most of you couldn't do anything for enough time for us to get through.

Another thing. You even don't try to get the fort/castle back. Build your defending strategy! Believe me, even lvl30 ppl can help with some actions.

Maybe you don't have clear leaders to decide what to do. Decide on your own who you wanna listen to. Who has the highest authority. Even if such person make a mistake, there are always other ppl to tell him what decisions were wrong.

Enough about it. I'm not gonna teach you how exactly you should play and what tactics you should use. These were only some clues. Hope I'll find you take some more actions in wz, even without invasions.

PS. I'm sick of reading such hate posts like this above from you, Slayer Of Light, but I must say it's also funny hahaha. You're just playing clown, SOL. It's not our problem if you prefer boycotting us instead of fighting. I can tell you what we are doing at peak time - we are realizing our strategy :DDD. But it can be too hard for u to catch it. I can't tell you when we will try invading you at peak hours, but I can assure you, we will.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

2 sides of a story? I think you need to get this skill checked

fact: Syrtis is the only realm on horus to have invaded while there were players online on BOTH sides.

fact: ignis are cowardize :p

fact: It's funny reading about how ignis thinks they are successful "oh look at me look at me, I just killed a mob"

and speed hacks? if you don't believe there are speed hacks why could a mage with rez dizzy from save follow an onslaughted group?

ignis doesn't have tactics and it's easy to see in their gameplay, they just jump where the fence is lowest, but hey I can also see why american players won't refrain from invading, it's not their fault they play when there is almost no resistance.

But boasting about it? This is just too funny :)

[Caelia]

How do you think you can stop us if you even don't do anything for half an hour except sitting at the gate and waiting for us?

...

Another thing. You even don't try to get the fort/castle back. Build your defending strategy! Believe me, even lvl30 ppl can help with some actions.

First, we sit at the gate because it works. Better to have a bigger attack at the gate, then smaller groups that will get run over at the gems. Besides, we've stopped you one night from leaving with our gems three times by guarding the gate. Of course, it didn't matter considering Ignis just came through the gate soon after anyways.

And there is no time for us to try to take forts back. Ignis is a fan of getting the 15 mins timer (which is the best, ofc) so instead, we would rather try to go and gather what people we have there, and reset for gate defense.

Meh, you won't listen to anything we say anyways. I'm not asking to get ideas from you. I know how Syrtis plays, and I know what we do and what we can accomplish as a realm. I don't need you to bring down the efforts of my team mates. We do well, no matter what you may believe.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Ignis has no tactics. But I am saying that we DO, even though Ignis seems to believe that we're all just idiots for not staying on the game 24/7 to defend or something. The "high and mighty" attitudes that Ignis gives off really only makes everything a million times worse.

I stand by with what I have said before: Having a single realm open the portal 9 times is ridiculous and something should be done. And please stop putting down the efforts of Syrtis and Alsius, because really, it's rather offensive.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

I would like to second lunar on her post, syrtis has some very good players, and we have some very nice tactics and some people who wants the best out of the realm by giving all their ideas into the effort, I'd like to thank my realm mates for keeping up the spirit.

pat yourself on the back players of syrtis, you play in the best realm on horus :), and don't hold any questions back, everyone will answer them :).

and I'd also like to pat alsius on the back for actually fighting us, it's nice to finally see goats in the war zone again, I kinda missed the taste of mcgoatburgers ^^.

It would be nice if ignis started being more humble and grew some balls too, I believe it would make the war zone a lot more interesting if they were fighting instead of just only going for the gems they forget that the core of the game is the fighting, you didn't get a level 50 for fighting more npcs, you got them for fighting players, tonight it would be appreciated by the syrtis night squad if you would let them take samal :).

Hope to see some more humble ignis.

[Miraculix]

LOL it's always funny to read Ignis thinking they are winning because of "tactics", "strategy", "teamwork", and "great leadership". Just priceless.

Lust's screen says it all.

But keep fooling yourselves all you want, it's only all the more funny when we read junk posts like these.

[lala110593]

lol lusts screen says absolutly nothing, is there a tactic to hit a gate? lol apparently syrtis thinks so, hey yeah lets have the rangers hit gate first and then barbs, and then knights and so on, lol do you use tactics to eat? sleep or walk? i think not lol, theres really no tactics needed to hit a gate, just click and go on combat mode, simple.
and as for the noob gem thing, syrtis did it first... just saying..

also heres the facts AWD
fact #1: ignis has opened portal 9 times
Fact#2: syrtis has opened portal 0 times
Fact #3: alsius has opened the portal 0 times

those are all the facts you need...
also i love how syrtis complaings about this, but when a hunting party of 3 goes into syrtis, they send 15 ppl to kill it, lol i love syrtian hypocracy, they just keep dumming themselves down everyday.

-glulose

[Torin_Ironfist]

For one, there needs to be less hate. If you already KNOW the almost exact hours of an Ignis invasion why don't you try to stop it? Every realm knows when Ignis has sucessfully invaded in the past and when they most likely will in the future. Don't bitch about this, STOP THEM. It won't be Realm Vs. NPC's if you actually stay up to defend. You cannot complain about these "shady tactics" when you know exactly what times they invade.

Secondly, regarding a post earlier about how "15 minutes isn't enough to take forts" This is complete bs. On Ra we fight until the last seconds to take our forts, the closest it has gotten was 1:39 seconds. 15 minutes is plenty of time to take the least guarded fort. Besides, can it hurt you to TRY? Anything is better than waiting for them at the gate for a half hour.

[ArcticWolf]

So what is NGD supposed to do? Dictate which realm people join? There's a word for that; FACISM.

It still goes back to this; play better. If you guys played better, you might actually win, and people will stop going to Ignis.

I invoke Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law) on this thread.

How can a realm play better if it's outnumbered? I find your reasoning fallacious and lacking of any logic.

Locking a realm seems to be a drastic idea, but when it comes to mantain the game balanced it's a perfectly admissible solution. Though, I'd rather explain what the bonuses are for and discourage people choosing the most populated realm.

[gluffs]

fact #1: ignis has opened portal 9 times
Fact#2: syrtis has opened portal 0 times
Fact #3: alsius has opened the portal 0 times



Hmm sure those are the facts. But you leave out the fact that there were
very little to no ppl to defend the gate due to that everyone is sleeping. Sure
you might have thougt up a nice strategy and tactical gameplay before you
go to the gates and forts. But when its time to put it into action there isnt
any need for it bc at gate you face the gate guards and atleast for aslius
maximum 5 ppl that is up and tries to defend.

I myself play alot during the day (gmt +1 time) and i have yeat to see your
brilliant tactics due to that i was asleep and so is many off my realm mates
due to the fact that we arent robots that can play 24 hours of the day.

But if you wish to show us your brilliant tactics then invade us when ppl are
online and put an end to the talk about you not having any tactics. So
invade us att about 18:00 gmt. That time ill be all awake to see your fine
tactics

[Orimae]

ignis doesn't have tactics and it's easy to see in their gameplay, they just jump where the fence is lowest, but hey I can also see why american players won't refrain from invading, it's not their fault they play when there is almost no resistance.

But boasting about it? This is just too funny :)


Well well, no tactics huh? jump the lowest fence? Oh please, you tell yourself whatever you want to make it all better AWD, but the fact of the matter is, hours of planning goes into our invasions, were well co-ordinated and well lead, hence the reason we do so well.

The dissapointing thing is, Ignis has yet to see the same qualities in the other realms on Horus, its quite sad actually, all those knights in alsuis? very tough to beat , And syrtis...all those locks and archers, you get your act together, could be a devastating force.... so many good players in all the realms, it shouldnt be so easy for us .

And whether are not your online at the invasion attempts, well..its a 24 hour game, we manage it, why cant you?


So please, why not put the energy your wasting whining and use it to rally your troops and come get our gems, to be honest, its getting a little boring invading you guys all the time...... come knock our gates down and give us a challenge for once :play_ball:

[gluffs]

And whether are not your online at the invasion attempts, well..its a 24 hour game, we manage it, why cant you?



Well i can only speak for myself but i have a life outside Regnum. I cant sit up
all night infront off the computer and play games. I would get kicked out off
the university if i did. I would like to be there during the invasion atempts
because i like a good fight. Dun matter much if i loose or win just that its a
good one. And if you guys are bored whit your invasions come at the time i
said and we will have a good old brawl and bash eachother heads in :banana:

[-SoL-]

well things id like to say!


1 I have a life i aint staying up all night cause i need to get up in the morning to work! im also captain on my hockey team!

2 ignis used steal the gem tactic with noob player first! all the times we invaded we never dropped the gem only after u did that dirty move

3 You do need tactics to attack the realm gate! i guess it really proves ignis knows nothing about tactics since your not smart enough to see that or it's cause you only gotta deal with 5 people when you invade!!!!

and i said try to invade like syrtis invades in peak times not bed times! xD

[Envy]

The dissapointing thing is, Ignis has yet to see the same qualities in the other realms on Horus, its quite sad actually, all those knights in alsuis? very tough to beat , And syrtis...all those locks and archers, you get your act together, could be a devastating force.... so many good players in all the realms, it shouldnt be so easy for us.

Alsius and Syrtis have yet to see such qualities in Ignis. If you want to prove you have good tactics, then fight us, the players. Attacking when no one is online (as my screenshot shows) proves absolutely nothing about tactics. It just shows you can attack when no one is online. Which is the whole point of this.

I want a straight answer, look at the screenshot posted earlier. Now explain clearly how such a difference in numbers shows Ignis has the qualities you are boasting about now.

I'm not saying Ignis has no tactics or WZ quality. I'm saying the way they have invaded so far, by no means prove any of that.

[Miraculix]

the fact of the matter is, hours of planning goes into our invasions, were well co-ordinated and well lead,

You actually need all of that to fight against an empty realm or against 1/4 of your numbers? And you're still boasting about that? LOL, sometimes all we have to do is let you guys open your mouths and you do all the work for us.

[ieti]

You invaded 9 times if it makes you feel better it is OK, but please stop trolling forums. I play to have fun and do not care how many times you invaded and how great you are. So do what you want play as you wish, but do not ruin the fun of other people...

Please try for ONCE to invade at normal peak European time when other realms can defend. Invading in early morning is like beating a sleeping man. What great you see in that?

I have life, i have work, i have family so no way to stand at 5-6am my time to play.

And yes I'm a loser for having a real life ;)

[Torin_Ironfist]

You invaded 9 times if it makes you feel better it is OK, but please stop trolling forums. I play to have fun and do not care how many times you invaded and how great you are. So do what you want play as you wish, but do not ruin the fun of other people...

This topic was most likely a response to all of the whining that is heard about invasions. I do somewhat agree with both sides here, Ignis does not invade at peak hours, but that is their own tactic and it has worked great for them. If we put half of the energy we use to whine into assembling our troops to STOP the invasions (we can predict their invasions pretty accurately) then we might be able to even out the balance. This has as much to do with NGD as it does with ourselves and Ignis. Stop whining about what time they invade at and do something to stop it. :tsk_tsk:

[Llayne]

I mostly agree with the op. Our success is mainly due to our confidence and our enemies lack there of.

[ncvr]

This topic was most likely a response to all of the whining that is heard about invasions. I do somewhat agree with both sides here, Ignis does not invade at peak hours, but that is their own tactic and it has worked great for them. If we put half of the energy we use to whine into assembling our troops to STOP the invasions (we can predict their invasions pretty accurately) then we might be able to even out the balance. This has as much to do with NGD as it does with ourselves and Ignis. Stop whining about what time they invade at and do something to stop it. :tsk_tsk:
"Dropping out of school and quitting your job do not count as 'tactics' ". I'm sorry if you're the only one smart (?) enough to do this, but some people have lives outside this game. Plus I think only (out of the most common nationalities of people here) Americans can play at that time without having to stay up very late or whatever. In Europe it's around 3 - 6am when Ignis invades to open the portal, I think.

Anyway, the point is, realm imbalance is real and we've discussed it so many times before but Ignis don't get the point. It's not tactics, it's not leadership, and even if it were, it didn't help one bit because you have the numbers.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2mi806.jpg

[Torin_Ironfist]

"Dropping out of school and quitting your job do not count as 'tactics' ". I'm sorry if you're the only one smart (?) enough to do this, but some people have lives outside this game. Plus I think only (out of the most common nationalities of people here) Americans can play at that time without having to stay up very late or whatever. In Europe it's around 3 - 6am when Ignis invades to open the portal, I think.

Anyway, the point is, realm imbalance is real and we've discussed it so many times before but Ignis don't get the point. It's not tactics, it's not leadership, and even if it were, it didn't help one bit because you have the numbers.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2mi806.jpg

Being able to outlast your opponents is a tactic, if you can stay on the longest you will win every time. Organization is the key to winning and Ignis knows how to do that.

Originally Posted by chilko
As an example this is today (active users lvl 30+ in the past two weeks):

Alsius: 271
Ignis: 287
Syrtis: 272

Yea the extra 16 people that Ignis has makes all the difference (?)

[trulyem]

Can someone close this stupidity?

Just because some of you are losers and lifeless, you dont need to come here bragging how much you spend most of your life playing regnum and being proud on a fantasy 3D game.

I don't play Horus. Mind you, there are RA players here too.

Bring all the hate in game not on this forums.

[Mojodajojo]

Dang, I just downloaded and installed. I live in Mexico but Spanish is not my first language. I find it really lame that the English server isn't available to me.

[ncvr]

Being able to outlast your opponents is a tactic, if you can stay on the longest you will win every time. Organization is the key to winning and Ignis knows how to do that.



Yea the extra 16 people that Ignis has makes all the difference (?)
It's not 16 extra people. Either you don't see it or you're ignoring it. There are people like Flens who just logged in for about 40 minutes and got counted.

Besides, it's a game, it's not outlasting anything. You shouldn't have to be able to play at 3 am every night to be able to participate.

[SmUrV]

The sad thing is you guys always have the same arguement. "You invade during our sleep time." When we invade its a little past dinner time for me.(being in the U.S.) and about dusk for those in New Zealand and Australia. So the peak times you speak of, for me at least, is when the U.S. is at work or still asleep and about 4am for New Zealand.

A good majority of this game is from neither of those timezones except for on ra, but then again ra is pretty active at anytime. However, the way it seems is that the majority from your peak timezone is what Syrtis and Alsius have the most of. Knowing this it may be an issue with advertising in U.S.A and of course the most widely used operating system being windows.(since its stock on most of the computers and most are to lazy to change or have no idea linux exists) I only heard of Regnum because one of my friends uses Linux and told me it was fun and had a windows client.

To note, you guys have only ever invaded while I was alseep or at work. So in that can I use the same arguement?

[fluffy_muffin]

I come to bring you salvation from hate and blindness!
I say close Horus and all your problems will pass. Just close Horus and move players to RA :D

[_dracus_]

I come to bring you salvation from hate and blindness!
I say close Horus and all your problems will pass. Just close Horus and move players to RA :D

If only I could I would have grant you a nice green karma, however I already gave my last karma to Dky I think ^^.

[Angel_de_Combate]

<sighs> Erm stop whining..just play the game maybe ?

[UmarilsStillHere]

I appologise in advance for this because I cant see myself pulling off this post without getting a little annoyed,

FOR FUCKS SAKE PEOPLE!

I cant take this seriously anymore Ignis is just plain blind to what even they are doing they claim amazing tacitcs then another from there realm says the only tactic for gate attacks is to go into combat mode and click the gate "amazing" tactics there.

Whoo-whoo! Here's the clue train, last stop; you. The reason Ignis has been so successful is that they know what they're doing; they know how to play, they understand the concept of tactics, and they have great leadership. There's no realm imbalance; Ignis simply plays better. You're tired of being invaded? Make it stop. Stop wasting your time complaining about the blatant unfairness of life and Do Better.


Note to self: Teach 80% of syrtis to play as they sleep, im sorry you have no idea what your on about, In our "peak times" you often have about 20 people who will defend the gate, it you "invasion times" we have about 7. Dont beleive me? go have a look at the image forums thread "syrtis off peak defence squad"

These accusations are coming from a very suspect direction; see if any of this sounds familiar; people who create level one characters to steal the gems from Ignis, to listen into Igniss' realm chat, to join Ignis in the voting (at the moment, that's pretty much the only way for the other realms to SEE the dragon, other than doing an image search on Google), who wait by the save points in a usually successful attempt to gain RP, who break up the WZ PvPs , who allow other realms characters to come inside and commit suicide to keep Ignis from getting the gem, and who also think that 'zerging' is a tactic. But *Ignis* cheats. Right.....

Ignis also used lvl ones to steal the Gems, Ignis have "bugged" into Syrtis 3 times and tryed to get the gem out, failed each time at Korsum wall. Glucose has a spy in Syrtis, everyone knows it, Stooge has screens, hes an idiot for talking since he clearly showed himself as his egotastic self, Glucose makes regular trips to CS I normaly see 3-4 a day, he only once got away (that ive seen) Its a warzone, not a pvp zone, No idea on that front, "zerging" means you need considerably more numbers, which we never have, and you often do, and yes you do sometimes we all do no one is inoccent and im sick of you playing the "we never do anything wrong" card, play another realm for a week and you will see how imbalanced the realms realy are.

Everytime Ignis bring up the 9-0-0 Situation it realy makes my angry, how can this be used as an argument? Its just showing how imbalanced the entire server is?

Glucose you come attack CS and then run off? Do you expect us not to chase? Do you expect the 4-5 of us there to decide ok just you go we dont need the others, ofc we are going to chase you, you dont like it then stop brining your SC monkey setup to central.

Ignis stop fucking complaining that we are complaining, its just stupid "wawa they are poinint out imbalance?" You arguments are nearly allways stupid, wrong, or so drowned in your own Ego that they are compleatly off topic, you made tons of threads "moning" that we were kicking you all over the wz but now see fit to "punish" (XDD) us for doing the same? Get a grip.

NGD im sorry but for fucks sake now this is just stupid, disable invasions untill balance is fixed, its just getting worse by the week, releaseing it onto a server were Syrtis was dominating I thaught was a stupid idea, (but the Ignis got 5* more players from somewere 0o)

This thread needs closeing, and people need to stop makeing stupid flame threads like this, I urge you all not to post here again... Take it up in PM's if you must. :tsk_tsk:

[Envy]

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/SeriousWB/make_it_stop.jpg

Alsius and Syrtis have yet to see such qualities in Ignis. If you want to prove you have good tactics, then fight us, the players. Attacking when no one is online (as my screenshot shows) proves absolutely nothing about tactics. It just shows you can attack when no one is online. Which is the whole point of this.

I want a straight answer, look at the screenshot posted earlier. Now explain clearly how such a difference in numbers shows Ignis has the qualities you are boasting about now.

I'm not saying Ignis has no tactics or WZ quality. I'm saying the way they have invaded so far, by no means prove any of that.

I await my straight answer.

SmUrV, we're talking about a major difference in numbers during this time, not the time itself (which is the balance problem). I don't get what is hard to understand. Not only that, but I'm not trying to take anything away from you, don't be so defensive. Just explain to us how the difference in numbers at said times (which is proven) shows this:

Whoo-whoo! Here's the clue train, last stop; you. The reason Ignis has been so successful is that they know what they're doing; they know how to play, they understand the concept of tactics, and they have great leadership. There's no realm imbalance; Ignis simply plays better. You're tired of being invaded? Make it stop. Stop wasting your time complaining about the blatant unfairness of life and Do Better.

Wyatt Earp
M*A*S*H 4077

Again.. Waiting for a straight answer.

[Completely off-topic] Snow! Lots of it.

Edit: The guy above me beat me to it, but with a little more rage =o

[UmarilsStillHere]

I invoke Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law) on this thread.

How can a realm play better if it's outnumbered? I find your reasoning fallacious and lacking of any logic.

Locking a realm seems to be a drastic idea, but when it comes to mantain the game balanced it's a perfectly admissible solution. Though, I'd rather explain what the bonuses are for and discourage people choosing the most populated realm.
behold the one sensible Ignis player...

And whether are not your online at the invasion attempts, well..its a 24 hour game, we manage it, why cant you?

As somone else said, "quiting your job, leaveing school, canceling all other real life stuff and playing 15 hours straight dont count as "tacttics"

[SmUrV]

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg169/SeriousWB/make_it_stop.jpg



I await my straight answer.

SmUrV, we're talking about a major difference in numbers during this time, not the time itself (which is the balance problem). I don't get what is hard to understand. Not only that, but I'm not trying to take anything away from you, don't be so defensive. Just explain to us how the difference in numbers at said times (which is proven) shows this:



Again.. Waiting for a straight answer.

[Completely off-topic] Snow! Lots of it.

Edit: The guy above me beat me to it, but with a little more rage =o

I know it was a major difference, just pointing out that the issues you're experiencing are the same for more than just you except for the fact that Ignis seems to have a constant flow of people rather than an off/on period and that the team that attacks to invade isn't usually the same one that defends.

And about the 5* warzone ready people. We had a crap load of people just leveling alts that actually came out to play once invasion was implemented. Honestly, pisses me off a lot. It was these people who continuously sat by while we lost fort wars and left the, usually, four of us to run into you're armies suicidaly hoping to wear out your numbers.

[-SoL-]

It Seems That Most Or Alot Of Ignis Have Changed There Sleeping Patterns Just so They Can Invade us at night lol

[monktbd]

Being able to outlast your opponents is a tactic, if you can stay on the longest you will win every time. Organization is the key to winning and Ignis knows how to do that.

Honestly Torin, even with all our (still active) numbers on at the same time we would not be able to invade yet, we could hold them off because numbers would be quite even but just take a look at the ranking page and count the people in Alsius who are not active anymore or right now.
Add to that that quite a few alts are in these rankings too.

I admit that invading when it is the best time is a tactic but there is nothing that the actual players in Alsius can do against. After all this is a game and there is a real life that is hopefully more important for everyone.

I also admit that Ignis is likely setup well regarding building subgroups and giving specific tasks to the people. But then it is easy to fulfill your orders if you do not lose any players because you outnumber the others.
Maybe Ignis wold fare better than others when numbers are even, proving their tactics, player skills and leadership. Might very well be also because they get some good training when trying with less enemies online.

There are good players on every side and actually for Alsius I sometimes wish for better and more tactics, sometimes it works well sometimes it is a bit messy. If all of Tyr's would still be active the situation would be a bit different.

Also I see quite a few people starting to ignore the invasions a bit because it is futile anyway to try to resist Ignis at these hours. So they try to level instead. This is fair enough but sucks a bit for the higher levels who try to hold off the invasion.

Anyway I think that Alsius is getting stronger and I guess both other realms admit that and there are some nice fights with Syrtis at times.

[fluffy_muffin]

:D
Topics like this makes me happy about laggy and spanish RA :P

For all Horus players on this forum:

[DkySven]

Sorry for the off-topic, but:
O.o Dracus gave me karma! \o/
and
O.o Xephador plays Ignis?

Continue with your rant please :p

[-SoL-]

Honestly Torin, even with all our (still active) numbers on at the same time we would not be able to invade yet, we could hold them off because numbers would be quite even but just take a look at the ranking page and count the people in Alsius who are not active anymore or right now.
Add to that that quite a few alts are in these rankings too.

I admit that invading when it is the best time is a tactic but there is nothing that the actual players in Alsius can do against. After all this is a game and there is a real life that is hopefully more important for everyone.

I also admit that Ignis is likely setup well regarding building subgroups and giving specific tasks to the people. But then it is easy to fulfill your orders if you do not lose any players because you outnumber the others.
Maybe Ignis wold fare better than others when numbers are even, proving their tactics, player skills and leadership. Might very well be also because they get some good training when trying with less enemies online.

There are good players on every side and actually for Alsius I sometimes wish for better and more tactics, sometimes it works well sometimes it is a bit messy. If all of Tyr's would still be active the situation would be a bit different.

Also I see quite a few people starting to ignore the invasions a bit because it is futile anyway to try to resist Ignis at these hours. So they try to level instead. This is fair enough but sucks a bit for the higher levels who try to hold off the invasion.

Anyway I think that Alsius is getting stronger and I guess both other realms admit that and there are some nice fights with Syrtis at times.


I Love The Alargos/Herb Trelle/Aggers Fights!!! Best in the game :D

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Well well, no tactics huh? jump the lowest fence? Oh please, you tell yourself whatever you want to make it all better AWD, but the fact of the matter is, hours of planning goes into our invasions, were well co-ordinated and well lead, hence the reason we do so well.

This is th truth :)

what happens when we get both the castle and a fort? You go to the gate because it's easier, som accuses you for bugabusing, it's possible and I'll record every gate attempt from now on (since last time) if people uses it, last time no one did which was good, but it is possible and I hear my realm mates complaining about it, I wasn't there but I have no reason not to believe them, either it's lag or it's what they say it is, and since it's possible some players might probably use this "tactic" as well as creating level 1 players, bugging into an enemy realm, creating spies etc.

also for jumping the lowest fence, why else would you explain that ignis only tries to invade when there's close to no one online to defend?

again I would like to thank the syrtis off peak squad for great play :)


The dissapointing thing is, Ignis has yet to see the same qualities in the other realms on Horus, its quite sad actually, all those knights in alsuis? very tough to beat , And syrtis...all those locks and archers, you get your act together, could be a devastating force.... so many good players in all the realms, it shouldnt be so easy for us .



And whether are not your online at the invasion attempts, well..its a 24 hour game, we manage it, why cant you?

all I see is straight subjectiveness, here's the fact, the majority of syrtis players are european and are sleeping while you invade


So please, why not put the energy your wasting whining and use it to rally your troops and come get our gems, to be honest, its getting a little boring invading you guys all the time...... come knock our gates down and give us a challenge for once :play_ball:
I'm not whining I'm stating facts and adding fuel to the fire so I can have some more fun watching this XD.


The sad thing is you guys always have the same arguement. "You invade during our sleep time." When we invade its a little past dinner time for me.(being in the U.S.)

when you invade it's not past our dinner time, please try to understand that, most people are sleeping, I have a job, I need to work I can't quit my job to play regnum online, other people go up to have school, they can't quit their education to play regnum online.

zerg mind, to the max... <(^^)> <"lala I can't hear you, we opened the portal so I won't listen to you, we're awesome because we can kill guards LOL we're cool haha omg look at this, I KILLED A GUARD, All of syrtis belongs to me"

[Xero_Aurion]

*sighs* This is a pointless arguement...

I normally don't talk on these forums but here goes...*facepalms*

We all know that there are problems on the game one way or another...And the fact is that we can't simply solve them with a snap of our fingers (so complaining helps? Ehhhh....not really...:rolleyes2: ) Anyways...it seems that with these problems some of them can be brought back to our real lives outside the game...

You work a job and can't go on? Okay sure!:thumb_up:
You go to school? Completely understandable!:thumb_up:
You're sleeping or being active in a social manner (friends)? Not a problem!:thumb_up:

I'm sure NDG is trying to do what they can...but an arguement such as this won't help matters at all...Who knows? Maybe it's getting them pissed? XD But seriously to the older and more mature players I'm sure you all know a simple solution to this. Ignoring such posts perhaps?

Don't forget we probably have a variety of ages on this game as well...now think about it...what good is ranting on someone who is potentially younger than you? Not good at all...espically if they don't understand :P I'm sure parents could relate to this XD Anyways if you want to know who the smart players are (on here) it would probably be the ones who don't even comment on posts like this (I'm sure alot of you have figured that a while ago...and don't use that last statement against me...unless you're a cop >.>)

The main point is this is a game and people can do what they like in games up to a certain degree of course. You've decided to get to the game to play. But don't let the game get to you o.O Let alone these "Realm rants" as I like to call them...

...And that's all I can think of to say...

[Radian]

I was the hunter standing at the front of the pack on Saturday night when Ignis invaded Alsius. I was lvl 39 that night. Next to me were two chars that were "yellow" to me. Everyone else was "easy" or "very easy" shades of green. I was casting surv and calling out numbers. Ignis had 15, and all were higher lvl than me. More showed up after the gate fell. I doubt that we had 10 players. When Ignis attacked, how long did it take to kill everyone at the gate, and get to the gate guards? 20 sec maybe...?

That's imbalance not bad tactics.

We have a few players that think it's a good idea to abandon gate defense and run off to try and retake Agg. With the party at the gate, we couldn't dent agg if it were undefended. Our bad. I stay, shake my head, and wait for them to run back or res at the wall. Would we have missed them had the attack happened while they were gone? Yep. We would have been dead in 15 sec instead.

That's bad tactics and imbalance.

Some players couldn't watch, and logged...

That's apathy contributing to imbalance.

After the gate fell and the "gem battles" were over, Ignis hunting parties were roaming the land having fun. This is the point were I started to get aggravated with my own realm. Party and Clan chat were silent. Realm and general were flooded. A couple of players just couldn't STFU on realm to let me and others hear lower lvl chars trying to describe where they had been killed and give locations. Their cries were immediately pushed off of the screen. Realm chat is usually useless for anything in battle, Ignis certainly has chars listening to it, but lower lvl chars don't know that and sing out there.... Some mid lvl chars were sadly contributing to the noise by going on and on debating about nothing useful and drowning out any attempts at re-organization.

That's just plain bad tactics.

Ignis split up to raise some hell and contribute to the confusion. We bumped into each other, attacked one at a time, ran in different directions and added more spam to chat.

Good tactics on Ignis part.

After about a half an hour and quite a few trips to the save, we managed a small hunting party (thanks Lust for bringing some order back to the chaos). As we started to zero in on the larger Ignis party, one member decided to try and derail any useful conversation with an extended discussion of the construction of the roof at the Yeti save. I finally had had it for the day. I let out a string of all caps, sat down and logged. I was apparently the only hunter on at the time....

We were out numbered, out classed, and our own worst enemy for a while. Alsius has a lot of heart, and a lot of great players, but I think the apathy generated from the imbalance got the best of us that night.

I cracked a beer and started thinking that maybe I should just log from now on and say the hell with it too, but then I remembered something that made it worth it. Just after the gate fell, and the lead Ignis were running to the gem, I caught Smurv while camo and fired a shot at him. He jumped into a bush. :tonguey:

In a nutshell, there is an imbalance. Psychological, and physical. There are lessons to be learned. People are leveling. I'm leveling. Maybe things will come together. Guess I'll stay logged on for a few more and update my ignore list. Maybe I can get Smurv to pick me some more blueberries :D

[Orimae]

what happens when we get both the castle and a fort? You go to the gate because it's easier,

also for jumping the lowest fence, why else would you explain that ignis only tries to invade when there's close to no one online to defend?






all I see is straight subjectiveness, here's the fact, the majority of syrtis players are european and are sleeping while you invade





when you invade it's not past our dinner time, please try to understand that, most people are sleeping, I have a job, I need to work I can't quit my job to play regnum online, other people go up to have school, they can't quit their education to play regnum online.





Like Smurv said, we seem to have a more even flow of players in Ignis, (this is what i meant by its a 24 hour game, and im assuming you guys bitch alot in your main chat, we have seem to have collected a lot of ex syrtis players who are sick of the poor leadership in your realm boosting our numbers a little)



I work, i have kids to take to school, i have a life too, but funily enough, how many of your invasion attempts have you seen me at the door? very few, because your attempts are at our off peak times , but thats us just running round in cirlces whining and finger pointing....


And as for when you guys are about to invade and we head for the gate,...
do we not attenpt to get out forts and castle back at all? actually we do, but once we see its pointless because your numbers are greater, of course we head to our wall, is that not where you are coming next? logic dictates to us that where we go to defend, then after you guys have got beaten off the gate (which, we manage with lower numbers how?...,,better players maybe? more co-ordination and ...uh oh...tactics!!) then we go get our forts back. But we have been left standing at our gate for the second two hours of a vunerable gate becase our low numbers couldnt get our forts back, and you still couldnt invade during those 4 hours, maybe were left like that because of the lvl1 noob standing inside our gate keeping an eye on our timer counting our numbers, as our main players start logged on or came off thier alts, you guys give up too easy.

I remember the times before the invasions, we were repeatedly zerged by you guys, and funnily enough , we all kinda have the same guys playing, the same sort of numbers, so whats changed?

Oh i know.....Ignis got good.

Then you have guys like bloodmoon/silvermoon/ironfist (oh lulu, why you realm hop so much? tell the nice people) talking bit talk and getting your noobs to try and invade us, taking forts, then , they get zerged and disheartened and leave..ususly for ignis, so blame your higher levels for not doing a better job, it sems all you want is rp, when all we want is a good old fashoined rumble, noob killing isnt much fun now, so get with the programme, its a 24 hour game, so if your not happy our main core of players are on when you sleep, live with it or go find a game where there are no invasions and only 'pvp' so all 3 realm, stop moaning and play the game.

and just so you know...i have only been at 2 invasions, because , its not at my playing time, i have stayed up, but thats only twice in how long? im a defender it seems, but im willing to once and a while, stay up and see how its done, and good job on the tactics and leadership, and if i find out who is sending low levels in to your realm to cheat, i will not ever help them in the game, cheating sucks, i play with what ngd gives my char, i die, so what, i can res and come back staff ablaze.

and here is the screenies of one of your invasion attempts, two realm against our low numbers, and we still seen you off, i have tons, but two wil suffice, theay are all pretty much the same


the defenders.....

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj56/fonepixie/Regnum%20online%20screenies/screenshot2009-01-2522_33_34.jpg


and our attackers, trust me, alot more of you appeared from the distance right after this, but i was too busy casting to screenie it.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj56/fonepixie/Regnum%20online%20screenies/screenshot2009-01-1919_50_22-1.jpg

[monktbd]

[...awesome post by Orb...]

Thanks for that Orb.
It sums up some of my experiences very well :).

Don't get too frustrated with the lack of coordination sometimes.
We need to have people listen to those who know good tactics and not to those who talk the most. It will get better and you know that Alsius needs people like you.