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Heglin
02-17-2009, 08:47 AM
The past two days has been full with stupidity, we go to trelle 7 times a day though we have no gems to defend.

Go capture a enemy fort instead, they have a reason to recapture it, instead of feeding greens for nothing (yes our forts is nothing without gems).

The more greens ending up in our forts the better, since then there's fewer greens in Syrtis = easier for us to attack.

If we had any gems i would go to trelle fast but now it's just not the best thing to do.

Someone please translate this thread

Znurre
02-17-2009, 08:52 AM
I haven't been playing much lately, mainly because of all position bugs - but yesterday I went to Trelle after recapture of Aggers, why?

Because I usually enjoy the Trelle fights, sometimes more than fighting at enemy forts.
This time was no different.

As I said in another thread I play Regnum to have fun, not to capture enemy gems.
If I have the choice of fighting for 2 hours at Menirah, or split up and go to Shaanarid with a small army and maybe risk loosing the fort with a good fight in favor of an invasion, I will choose the fort fight.

So I will simply go where I consider it being most likely to get a nice fight.

Heglin
02-17-2009, 08:55 AM
I don't, not the usual trelle fights atleast. Usually just huge "feed greens for 1 hour" partys.

I just see it as since invasions got implemented forts have a strategical meaning, that one's gone for me when we don't have gems.

Znurre
02-17-2009, 08:56 AM
Yeah. In those cases you should leave it, but it's not always like that.

I've been to many Trelle fights where we organized and pushed back the greens rather fast.
Sure, we died a few times - but it was worth it!

Imo. Herb and Samal sucks, if you want a good fight.
At those forts there is just zerg, zerg, zerg - 30vs30.

I much rather prefer 10vs10 fights at Meni/Algaros...
So yesterday the situation was like this:

50% of our army wanted to go to Samal, and the rest to Trelle.
So the choice was obvious for me.

trulyem
02-17-2009, 09:00 AM
Heglin, Kudos, you're smart hehe.

Znurre: Whenever you play there is enough army to recapture trelle. But incases that heglin is talking about, is when the 1:5 ratio of Alsius and Syrtis which is completely 24/7. Second thing, nobody wants to come to trelle too. Maximum of 3 warbanners and still only a finger of people care enough to help. So this is just Heglin's solution to the undying free rp fest in Trelle.

Nothing offensive really, thats alsius life eh? ;)

Heglin
02-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Yesterday it went so far that i thought about taking a break and come back when alsius shows some ambition, we didn't even try to go for enemy forts (except the trelle - alga mass hysteria). We just did what the greens wanted all day.

We ended up with 20 at trelle and when it was done only 5 would go for a enemy fort, that's just a so unambitious, if they zerg trelle then we atleast should make them pay for it. Instead of going back to pinos save wait 5 minutes and what a surprise, they got trelle again (repeat the madness...).

Znurre
02-17-2009, 09:08 AM
I hate the Alga - Trelle ping/pongs too.
But seriously, Herb and Samal sucks.

Tell me about one god fight we had there since the save was moved at Samal.

Menirah is my favourite fort by far.

trulyem
02-17-2009, 09:22 AM
I hate the Alga - Trelle ping/pongs too.
But seriously, Herb and Samal sucks.

Tell me about one god fight we had there since the save was moved at Samal.

Menirah is my favourite fort by far.

Its not about keeping the enemy fort, its about driving them out of our land and reducing casualties and constant rp fest.

There used to be good fights in Herb and Samal, you may not have been there but we did have a good fight once in Herb.

Menirah is your favorite because the situation of the fort is similar to Trelle. It takes alot of time for the big people to come and contest us in the fort.

-Edge-
02-17-2009, 09:32 AM
Though this is about Alsuis on Ra, I agree with Znurre to some extent.

On Horus for example me and a few friends feel that sometimes since this invasions update no one wants to go to a fort anymore just to fight one like before invasions. Now if someone goes to a fort, usually its with invasions in mind. Thats what its like on my side anyway,

DkySven
02-17-2009, 09:51 AM
There's more zerg now at Algaros than at Herbred and you're more likely to run into greens at pp2 than at pp. Also, it's not much fun being the only knight(or even warrior) and also not having good conjurer support, which often happens at Trelle.

Inkster
02-17-2009, 10:41 AM
There's more zerg now at Algaros than at Herbred and you're more likely to run into greens at pp2 than at pp. Also, it's not much fun being the only knight(or even warrior) and also not having good conjurer support, which often happens at Trelle.


we ACTUALLY have conjurer support there?

Could have fooled me

Truewar
02-17-2009, 11:07 AM
It is very hard to wake up Alsius for any war. I am just 39lvl hunter (King Truewar) and when I am online, me, my arrows and bow are always ready for a good war.

Remember last invasion? When the gates still was not broken there were only ~30-40lvl chars on defend. And their count was in half less than count of ignis.

But when gems were picked up, a lot of high levels came to gates. Why? Where did you were all that time? Look at Ranking!

We have 54 high lvl chars! And if just 10 of them will be ready to fight and 40+ lvl chars will come up too, we will recapture our gem, and other realms gems!

So! Where are you? Who interested in opening portal in Alsius (Horus) at all? Tell me your nicks and someday we will do it together!

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 12:03 PM
I don't know how you feel about our forts.

In Spanish community they are symbols.

Aggers and Trelle show the world that Alsius can defeat a 1:5 ratio of reds and greens respectively.

To be honest I think you are taking the easy way. You can call it strategy, yes is easier to capture. But it makes me SICK to see the green flags hanging out our fort.

Znurre always rushes there, same as me and many more. I'm a mage, and if I run half Alsius just for the sake of Trelle, everyone can.

I'd rather be killed 2 times before capture than whine and try to make everyone go somewhere else.

Heglin
02-17-2009, 12:11 PM
Then why does it usually take 1 hour to get reinforcements to trelle? i'm tired of that. I'll go to trelle when we have gems to defend but i will not get grinded over and over for something few ppl care about anyway.

2 times is one thing, that's no problem but when it starts to be 10 times without any reinforcements coming, then it's not worth it.

I keep a character at trelle to change fast but it's pointless when greens get ppl there alot faster than we do.

The main thing though is that since we have no gems we should attack, not just recapture, start the care bear party at save, recapture, repeat

As long as we don't attack their forts we show that we're happy that they capture our forts.

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 12:32 PM
No reinforcementes for AN HOUR?

You must be playing in a rather odd time zone...

With 4 people that can effectivley gather all the online players in their clans is more than enough. You can't take more than 20 minutes to do that...

Heglin
02-17-2009, 12:36 PM
Not maybe no reinforcements but defenitely not enough, and i'm at GMT +1 so if i play during mid day here, it's early morning in south america. Then it's hell to get reinforcements to any other place than aggers (strange isn't it?).

edit: and i repeat, we only capture for them to come again since we don't attack after recapture.

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 12:42 PM
Morning players at this time of the year must be high schoolers... yet that's not excuse for not helping...

I'll let the word run around my clan and those others I know will hear, that's the best I an do to help.

Truewar
02-17-2009, 12:52 PM
eddius, I am GMT+3. I think we often play at the same time. I will add you to friends, when I`ll come home.

We can create some alliance (in clan form or just friends list) of Heroes who ready to war. Clan form is preferably because then we will have our private chat.

That will be the alliance of people, who wants to bring victory to Alsius. Who wants to open the Portal. Who will react on forts war and invasions quickly.

And fast reaction will be the law for us! And command game will be the law too. I am ready to spent my money and time for it.

Who will support me?

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 12:57 PM
I'll tell you how it worked best for us.

Each of you keep your clans. Create a net of contacts trough buddy list, so if you talk to 10 people about trelle, you just talked to 10 clans.

Truewar
02-17-2009, 01:00 PM
It is just one of the ways. But having same private chat for all is better anyway.

DkySven
02-17-2009, 01:00 PM
Truwar, you know this is about Alsius at Ra, right?

Truewar
02-17-2009, 01:05 PM
I was mistaken a few.

But this thread is actual for both realms I think!

ljrossi
02-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Worst was when Syrtis had Shanarid and Menira, when this ping/pong fellows take Trelleborg .:fury:

But is ok, if you like just to have some easy fun and fast action go to pp2.

But if we some day open the portal dont blame if we take option to make a power one, instead some realm gold or XP.

elendriel
02-17-2009, 01:19 PM
I hate the Alga - Trelle ping/pongs too.
But seriously, Herb and Samal sucks.

Tell me about one god fight we had there since the save was moved at Samal.

Menirah is my favourite fort by far.
Samal and herb sucks only for your fault.

Is incredible how an army of 20 alsirians, only arrive to Samal or herbred 10.

It is the most part of the times, so is normal that it sucks.

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 01:20 PM
Please do.

The power one is a fight were only one player will become strong.

That wont help anyone in the realm, but instead help us gather people at the shout of "The chosen one of ignis! LET'S KILL HIM!!!"

elendriel
02-17-2009, 01:27 PM
Please do.

The power one is a fight were only one player will become strong.

That wont help anyone in the realm, but instead help us gather people at the shout of "The chosen one of ignis! LET'S KILL HIM!!!"
Chosen one of Syrtis, Julius is a hunter of Syrtis.

And for me I aggree absolutely with Heglin, Alsius doesn't have aggresivity.

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 01:30 PM
Chosen one of Syrtis, Julius is a hunter of Syrtis.

And for me I aggree absolutely with Heglin, Alsius doesn't have aggresivity.

Sorry, The red name and the fenix reference sounded like ignis XD

Znurre
02-17-2009, 01:35 PM
Samal and herb sucks only for your fault.

Is incredible how an army of 20 alsirians, only arrive to Samal or herbred 10.

It is the most part of the times, so is normal that it sucks.No, the problem is that Samal is not a good fort to defend, and even less so since the new save location...

Algaros used to be my favourite fort, with many tactical advantages - like ambushing armies from the mountain, hiding behind the slope towards cupula and launch areas, etc.

Now when everyone comes from Algaros save those times are gone =/

Now, at Algaros, Samal and Herb it's all about zerging each other.
That's partly true for Meni too, but atleast thos fights are rather funny...

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 01:48 PM
The only fun fights right now are our forts (When it's not total zerg)... and we rarely have a chance to defend.

elendriel
02-17-2009, 03:17 PM
No, the problem is that Samal is not a good fort to defend, and even less so since the new save location...

Algaros used to be my favourite fort, with many tactical advantages - like ambushing armies from the mountain, hiding behind the slope towards cupula and launch areas, etc.

Now when everyone comes from Algaros save those times are gone =/

Now, at Algaros, Samal and Herb it's all about zerging each other.
That's partly true for Meni too, but atleast thos fights are rather funny...
I can't agree less, Algaros can be very easily defended, is true that is the strategicaly with more possibilities. Samal, has his weak points, never exploted, herbred the same.

In Alsius, Trelleborg and Pinos has their points to defend it, never exploted by any army, too.

ByteMe
02-17-2009, 05:05 PM
We all play for fun so it's our choice on where we go and what we decide to do. With that being said, Heglin has the right tactics. Hit the enemy when they have abandonded their own realms leaving them weak and open to attacks. This should be the given tactic for all realms. Even if you can't hold long enough for invasion then you are at least pulling people from your fort to come back and try to recapture their own. This is especially true when we have no gems and nothing to defend. Yes, there is pride in owning your forts but at times pride should be swallowed and the enemy should be punished in other ways.

Torg_Snowflake
02-17-2009, 06:18 PM
We all play for fun so it's our choice on where we go and what we decide to do. With that being said, Heglin has the right tactics. Hit the enemy when they have abandonded their own realms leaving them weak and open to attacks. This should be the given tactic for all realms. Even if you can't hold long enough for invasion then you are at least pulling people from your fort to come back and try to recapture their own. This is especially true when we have no gems and nothing to defend. Yes, there is pride in owning your forts but at times pride should be swallowed and the enemy should be punished in other ways.

Would you abandon Meni while defending and run all the way to pinos just beacause they took it?

I doubt it. So I don't think enemies would do that.

Last time it was 10 of us in alga while tons of greens played in trelle and not a single one came to recover until they lost it.

DkySven
02-17-2009, 06:49 PM
Would you abandon Meni while defending and run all the way to pinos just beacause they took it?

I doubt it. So I don't think enemies would do that.

Last time it was 10 of us in alga while tons of greens played in trelle and not a single one came to recover until they lost it.
Then you could take Herbred and Eferias too while the greens aren't home. And also take their gems and burn their towns, now you're there. :superpusso:

Flightcap
02-17-2009, 08:33 PM
I hate to say it, but Syrtis is this way too. A few days ago Ignis came and took Efe. We pretty quickly assembled an army of 20 or so and routed them outta there. The instant the last one died, there were two or three of us that screamed to go attack Ignis with the army we had. Instead, a couple stayed at efe and the rest went back to messing around. Then, Ignis took Herb and we repeated the same thing. This time we had 25 or so, and since we already had Imp there were several of us that thought it was a good idea to invade Alsius. But no......less than 10 of us actually went. We took Trelle and endangered Alsius gates all by our little lonesomes......

I am truly tired of realms that do nothing but defend. It seems that Ignis is the only realm to have any initiative - the others just recapture stuff or capture forts just to farm rp for awhile, nothing more.

SPARTISH
02-18-2009, 12:58 AM
at trelle fort its a ok fight, even tho were outnumbered. but we can never capture the fort coz a bunch of greens are at the bridge constantly runing back and forth to trelle save killing our people. this army at bridge is bigger than the army at trelle fort.

people leave coz its not even safe to just stand at save anymore never mind fight back or train.

for the 5 people that be there only 3 of them actually fight back and the closest to killing someone is getting one hit in. but its getting better, more people came the other day and we kept pushing them bak till hardly any came back.

wen syrtis takeover they take trelle and most elves live there, so then they can guard the teleport and stop our resources and also can easily supply the elves at the castle thro the teleport. when we take castle back and run to aggers by the time we run to aggers they have taken it back, we need to take trelle and guard it while we take the other forts back.

sopa14
02-18-2009, 02:49 AM
el perro es mi mejor amigo

ByteMe
02-18-2009, 06:00 AM
Would you abandon Meni while defending and run all the way to pinos just beacause they took it?

I doubt it. So I don't think enemies would do that.

Last time it was 10 of us in alga while tons of greens played in trelle and not a single one came to recover until they lost it.


If we were about to suffer from an invasion I sure would, well if we had any gems I would. If it was just aggers, no but if they held the castle and aggers you better believe it's time to go to defend. But that's just me and I don't play much anymore...

Torg_Snowflake
02-18-2009, 11:44 AM
Guys I'm talking about 10 people...

If we had enough people for an invasion, we would have already killed everything on our way (including trelle).

I have to admit is a good idea... but you will need lots of loyalty to keep the Alsius army from attacking and try to direct them into enemy territory.

trulyem
02-18-2009, 02:13 PM
Guys I'm talking about 10 people...

If we had enough people for an invasion, we would have already killed everything on our way (including trelle).

I have to admit is a good idea... but you will need lots of loyalty to keep the Alsius army from attacking and try to direct them into enemy territory.

You absolutely do not get Heglin's idea. Sheesh.

That is just so sad. Needing lots of loyalty for what? Pathetic.Really Pathetic. I can see where your driving at, complete loss.

If you check out, Ignis is the less populated realm right now and the overpower the second realm which is? Alsius.

_dracus_
02-18-2009, 03:36 PM
It's really funny to read that thread. First of all I think Heglin understand the situation quite clearly. When your realm has nothing to loose, you gotta play the offensive card (because it's fun to do it, and because it's the optimal choice).

Where this get funny is that Syrtis has understood that ever since invasion are implemented. When you have a group of 40 people that have captured Eferias and that defend it very well, you'd better attack their forts than defend just your castle. As long as they don't get a fort you are good, if you can get a fort and the castle of your ennemies before he thinks about getting one of your fort, you win. It was really fun to fake the defense of Eferias with 10 syrtis while we were covering for the whole realm attacking all ignis base at the same time. You should have seen them committing suicide at eferias when they did understood what was going on.

Torg_Snowflake
02-18-2009, 06:29 PM
You absolutely do not get Heglin's idea. Sheesh.

That is just so sad. Needing lots of loyalty for what? Pathetic.Really Pathetic. I can see where your driving at, complete loss.

If you check out, Ignis is the less populated realm right now and the overpower the second realm which is? Alsius.

It seems I don't. No need to get insulting and violating forum rules.

By the way... How do you pretend to make an effect in Alsius when only 4 english clans are active?

Heglin
02-18-2009, 08:15 PM
By the way... How do you pretend to make an effect in Alsius when only 4 english clans are active?

I'm not trying to bring the language barrier or something like that up, seriously i hardly notice any such problems anymore, most clans have a bunch of members who can communicate in both languages (yes even Valhalla now have many Spanish speaking members).

It's usually not a problem with organization and communication between the "old" clans, just way harder to get anything through to newer ppl.

With Invasions NGD gave us something to strive for, a reason for it all, a goal to reach. Why keep on playing like invasions doesn't exist?

Torg_Snowflake
02-18-2009, 08:27 PM
I know, I'm one of the "old clan" members. That's why I don't think this will work.

Invasions only happened when we all arrange a certain time and gather our forces. Last 2 times we opened the portal it was like this. And I think it will keep being like that (not the fact that is in the morning, but the fact that is pre arranged in our forums). I just don't see everyone rushing to invade and calling all to arms just beacause greens let their guard down by attacking.

Also if we attack we leave our door open for enemy invasion. Last time we were able to stop the gem thieves before they scaped with the gems. So it's not like there is nothing to do when we get invaded.

trulyem
02-19-2009, 01:28 AM
I know, I'm one of the "old clan" members. That's why I don't think this will work.

Invasions only happened when we all arrange a certain time and gather our forces. Last 2 times we opened the portal it was like this. And I think it will keep being like that (not the fact that is in the morning, but the fact that is pre arranged in our forums). I just don't see everyone rushing to invade and calling all to arms just beacause greens let their guard down by attacking.

Also if we attack we leave our door open for enemy invasion. Last time we were able to stop the gem thieves before they scaped with the gems. So it's not like there is nothing to do when we get invaded.

Your right, you guys run the show.

elendriel
02-20-2009, 02:56 PM
I know, I'm one of the "old clan" members. That's why I don't think this will work.

Invasions only happened when we all arrange a certain time and gather our forces. Last 2 times we opened the portal it was like this. And I think it will keep being like that (not the fact that is in the morning, but the fact that is pre arranged in our forums). I just don't see everyone rushing to invade and calling all to arms just beacause greens let their guard down by attacking.

Also if we attack we leave our door open for enemy invasion. Last time we were able to stop the gem thieves before they scaped with the gems. So it's not like there is nothing to do when we get invaded.
Only I'll tell a phrase:
Without risk the victory can't be gained.

Torg_Snowflake
02-21-2009, 08:52 PM
Only I'll tell a phrase:
Without risk the victory can't be gained.

Exactly. There is always risk. But 99% against 1% is better. I'm not looking to become a hero that wins against all odds.

I only want to get the job done.:thumb_up:

trulyem
02-22-2009, 12:33 AM
Exactly. There is always risk. But 99% against 1% is better. I'm not looking to become a hero that wins against all odds.

I only want to get the job done.:thumb_up:

Awright, since 4 clans isnt good enough, I guess I'll start watching you and your clan win forts now. I'll be there cheering at you. Oh I'm not fighting anymore since the spanish clans got this in the bag. And your marvelous clan is so humongous, it can take any enemies Ignis and Syrtis all at the same time. Goodluck! you're gonna need it. Oh I might be wrong with that, you are BIG and STRONG.

Make sure you get the job done! like what you said ;)

P.S. Trelle is being camp saved at this moment, where are you? Come and help!

Torin_Ironfist
02-22-2009, 12:40 AM
How do you camp save somebody?

Inkster
02-22-2009, 10:23 AM
Would you abandon Meni while defending and run all the way to pinos just beacause they took it?

Ummm actually yes, the last time we opened the portal, ignis took both alsius forts and castle, some of us went back, retook our forts and still successfully invaded Syrtis.

As long as we don't attack their forts we show that we're happy that they capture our forts.

I can't Argue with that, I can HOWEVER argue with the following

No reinforcementes for AN HOUR?

You must be playing in a rather odd time zone...

With 4 people that can effectivley gather all the online players in their clans is more than enough. You can't take more than 20 minutes to do that...

If this is the case, please explain to me how on my day off, i was monitoring the war status ALL DAY, and trelle was held by Syrtis for around 13 hours out of 16?

Also (no im not picking on you powerpuff)

By the way... How do you pretend to make an effect in Alsius when only 4 english clans are active?

This is probably one of the most insulting comments i have read regarding the small English community on Ra. Lets take it a step further, HOW DOES ALSIUS PRETEND TO MAKE AN EFFORT WHEN WERE SO SMALL?!?!?!

Twinkle1
02-22-2009, 11:15 AM
By the way... How do you pretend to make an effect in Alsius when only 4 english clans are active?

Pretend !!!! WTF is that sposed to mean ?
I hope you are not implying that that the 4 english clans are worthless and that we are not needed,or that we can't help to make a difference. It's a case of everybody working together to make a difference not just the english clans trying to do the job for you or trying to be the best clans in alsius.
Yes we are small in numbers compared to the spanish clans. but i know most of the players and they work hard to try to get the job in hand done. As do the spanish clans.
And we stayed on Ra because ra is home and we love the comunity here, even with the language barrier.

1. to stop invasion all you need to do is keep the castle !!!
if they dont have it they cant invade. simple !! then you can go get forts
back.
( especialy if few people are on)

2. everyone needs to be co-ordinated and needs to no what to do and where
to go when we are going to invade enemy lands.
there is to much of the headless chuck syndrome going on.

there are other points but i am not posting them

I for one am feeling bloody unapreciated right now as an english person on ra, maybe i should think of disbanding Dilligaf and going to horus. :rolleyes:

Miriya_PS
02-23-2009, 01:22 PM
I think the first post was pretty clear:
The past two days has been full with stupidity, we go to trelle 7 times a day though we have no gems to defend.

Go capture a enemy fort instead, they have a reason to recapture it, instead of feeding greens for nothing (yes our forts is nothing without gems).

The more greens ending up in our forts the better, since then there's fewer greens in Syrtis = easier for us to attack.

If we had any gems i would go to trelle fast but now it's just not the best thing to do.

Someone please translate this thread
If Alsius had no gems back then, if we did not have something to lose, I can not agree more with Heglin we should have taken the fight to the enemies' land.

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On a little sidenote, and making clear that I am Argentinian but I am the proud member of an English speaking clan (Elvesbane), I wanted to say that for me this post was very upsetting.
By the way... How do you pretend to make an effect in Alsius when only 4 english clans are active?
English clans MAKE AN EFFECT. Just compare how much RP per member English clans have. RP does not tell you how good we fight but it sure tells you how much we fight.
You can compare clans like mine, we are a 20 characters clan (4 active players) and have as much RP per member as some Spanish clans with hundreds of members. IMO, that is one good effect in Alsius. IMHO, I will follow a Dilligaf fighter, a Valhalla trooper or an Alsius hunter with respect and so maybe I learn something from them.

_dracus_
02-23-2009, 03:30 PM
So true Myria, I'm pretty sure that guy like Znurre can lead an army of Alsius people to fight against Zergs.

makarios68
02-23-2009, 04:34 PM
I already put this tomastomas dude on ignore, but still get to read his biggoted opinions in quotes.

He should be banned for being a biggot and an asshole.

Heglin
02-23-2009, 04:44 PM
No need to blow this thing up too much without reason. I talked about this with Torg (tomastomas) and it seems to be a missunderstanding caused by the use of "wrong" words.

I can relate to that, since my english isn't that good and i often pick the wrong words or in a worst case scenario: think in swedish when i write in english.

I just hate to see a civil war, so all just calm down a bit.

Inkster
02-23-2009, 04:57 PM
I just hate to see a civil war, so all just calm down a bit.

but Regnum is a game of war :sifflote:

Miriya_PS
02-23-2009, 05:37 PM
I just hate to see a civil war, so all just calm down a bit.
Some of us do not take this personal. I think tomastomas is wrong (very wrong) but I do not think he is a bad person for that. He has the right to think whatever he thinks, as I have the right to tell him why I believe he is wrong. This is what the forums are for, to argue but not to fight.

The facts are that an English player writes an idea, and after a little argue, some Spanish player said "you can not decide a thing because you English speakings are not enough".

I wish to understand what he meant because he did not explain it to us. Alsius has a very active English community, most of them are truly Alsius heros, well known fighters, and I think they should not be underestimate just because they do not speak Spanish.

Torg_Snowflake
02-23-2009, 06:27 PM
Ok it seems you got it all wrong... I'm talking about communication.

I'm not talking about how good or bad players are. Many of the best and most friendly players I've met are form the english community.

You wont see my clan taknig all forts... La Jihad is based on relations. We would rather get together for a beer than take Meni, the thing is we are so apart that's not the normal case.

Spanish clans don't have it on the bag, Alsius doesn't have it on the bag. I'm saying this would work 1000 times better if we found a way to actually communicate correctly.

I wish there was enough people to be able to translate threads on the spot for interlanguage discussion (for example the ones in alsius.com).

EDIT: Wudy ignored me beacause he couldn't keep up with a political discussion. We never discussed anmything else regarding the game. And he just broke the forum rules.

makarios68
02-23-2009, 06:38 PM
He has the right to think whatever he thinks, as I have the right to tell him why I believe he is wrong.

Yes, he has a right to think whatever he thinks. We all do.

But posting rants against a race or country creates strong bad feeling and is damaging to the community. Is this what we want for the RO community?

Since he posted his anti-British sentements a few weeks ago (and got away with it without a ban) i come onto these forums very little.

To me, this forum is not the same place anymore.

People say "this is the internet, we should be able to say what we like".

This is nonesense. Because just like in real life, if you go around saying exactly what you like, you will create havoc.

There are consequencies to your words, and these consequencies can be dire!

Heglin
02-23-2009, 06:44 PM
Some of us do not take this personal. I think tomastomas is wrong (very wrong) but I do not think he is a bad person for that. He has the right to think whatever he thinks, as I have the right to tell him why I believe he is wrong. This is what the forums are for, to argue but not to fight.

Yes, i wanted some discussion when i made the thread, it just got a bit ugly.

I think that is sorted out now and i hope more people will share their oppinions/thoughts on the subject.

off topic: I thought i'd get nuked for starting this thread, so far it's going okay :)

DkySven
02-23-2009, 09:18 PM
Yes, he has a right to think whatever he thinks. We all do.

But posting rants against a race or country creates strong bad feeling and is damaging to the community. Is this what we want for the RO community?

Since he posted his anti-British sentements a few weeks ago (and got away with it without a ban) i come onto these forums very little.

To me, this forum is not the same place anymore.

People say "this is the internet, we should be able to say what we like".

This is nonesense. Because just like in real life, if you go around saying exactly what you like, you will create havoc.

There are consequencies to your words, and these consequencies can be dire!
I assume you're talking about his reference to the Falkland Islands?

trulyem
02-23-2009, 09:51 PM
Ok it seems you got it all wrong... I'm talking about communication.

I'm not talking about how good or bad players are. Many of the best and most friendly players I've met are form the english community.

You wont see my clan taknig all forts... La Jihad is based on relations. We would rather get together for a beer than take Meni, the thing is we are so apart that's not the normal case.

Spanish clans don't have it on the bag, Alsius doesn't have it on the bag. I'm saying this would work 1000 times better if we found a way to actually communicate correctly.

I wish there was enough people to be able to translate threads on the spot for interlanguage discussion (for example the ones in alsius.com).

EDIT: Wudy ignored me beacause he couldn't keep up with a political discussion. We never discussed anmything else regarding the game. And he just broke the forum rules.

Before you even talk about communication within the spanish and english community, FIX your own community first. Remember we are only 4 clans, less than 10 people so how is that hard to communicate?

Torg_Snowflake
02-23-2009, 11:43 PM
Before you even talk about communication within the spanish and english community, FIX your own community first. Remember we are only 4 clans, less than 10 people so how is that hard to communicate?

I mean communication between communities. This thread was to try and change Alsius way of fighting. So even if we translate the post number 1 and put it in the other forum, there is no way (or at least no practical way) of having a shared discussion. Each thread will evolve in a different way and decisions/opinions will be different.

trulyem
02-24-2009, 01:27 AM
I mean communication between communities. This thread was to try and change Alsius way of fighting. So even if we translate the post number 1 and put it in the other forum, there is no way (or at least no practical way) of having a shared discussion. Each thread will evolve in a different way and decisions/opinions will be different.

Most of the english people you are mentioning are ELITES, they know and speak little of spanish after all those days playing regnum. Simple spanish is enough, we're not babies, we can understand that it is hard to convert every single word to english so total conversion is NOT neccessary. So if you think that is the problem then you are mistaken.


I know a few spanish and I also have people I can ask if I have no idea what the situation is.