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Zixmund
11-05-2009, 05:01 PM
I dont know if there was something like this suggested but I want to try bring more fun and people to arena, also to make our gladiators not just by War Status rank but with 1vs1 fights at the eyes of the people and to bring closer Syrtis Community on Horus.

Match and Bets system :

I want to make it simple to handle all we need is to put people in one place what is hard even in wz since the syrtis mass split (5) .
We find 2 fighters for the match, any class with any class but the best with same class. Because of camo, ao1, sultar.. But I still dont see this as a problem.
We will need audience for placing bets on who will win.

Fighter must win 5 rounds, during them they can go for 1 reset to Dohsim if he want to try better tactic.


Bet system in example :

We have 10 people, each of them put 10 000 so we have 100 000 in bank.
3 of them will put they bet on gladiator 1, 7 of them on gladiator 2.
If gladiator 1 win these 3 people will get they money back + 50% of loosers bank what is 70 000 gold the other 50% will go to the gladiator 1.
Also if someone will put 5 000 he will get only his % from that amount(35 000).

I want to try put people together for this at this weekend, any sugestions are welcome. And sutff like I come with hunter and kill all oh please... If there will be hunter vs other class he cannot use Camo, if there will be kinght with other then warior cannot use ao1( I dont know how is possible to kill a knight with barb so I want to see it too) also sultar will be banned if there is lock and other class.

Freduardo
11-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Nice idea for a pvp event.

You probably expected a response like this but here we go:

I don't understand why one should not use spells like Camo, Ao1, Sultar etcetera. If people invest points in them, and thus lose points for other skills, I see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to use them.

A big part of a pvp should be to learn how to best cope with those spells in war imho. So MS that Ao1 knight, or use as many cc spells to keep him/her off you.

The only skill I do not like to see in a pvp is MoD. The rest is imho fine.

_Enio_
11-05-2009, 05:46 PM
The main problem with these events in arena is to keep the players who crash it out of arena.. lowlvls who dont understand, retards who think its more fun to annoy evryone etc.

But yeah its worth a try, ill make sure to log there to watch when you announce a time and date :)

Zixmund
11-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Yes this is what I m most worried about - retards, but I will give it a try this weekend on syrstis chat and I know this game is not arena based, but it will be also good to find more pvp issues and about the spells.. I think best will be to make same class pvp but we should try everything and the most interesting will be if somebody will win the 100% lose situation and I think lvl 50s will find it more interesting -if enough people will be involed- to get gold for repairs and arrows then grinding. I tried it today and there were about 5 of us and it finished with killling each other. So I putted it here to describe the beting system. If this will be sucesfull I try find out how the system of bets can work better and maybe special weapons and magna to put in and etc..

Gawyn_Trakkand
11-06-2009, 03:23 AM
this is an awesome idea Zix I would love to be one of the fighters too. Just give me a time when this is going to happen and i'll be there. As for keeping the PT's interferance to a minimum how about having 4 lvl 50's (2w 1a 1m) policing the events from interferance. I'm sure i could find willing participants from my clan sa you could from BoS.

UmarilsStillHere
11-06-2009, 03:29 PM
last time we did something like this (arwen organised, magna entry fee/prize) we had 2 players in the arena at any given time, and they can pick on pre-buffs or not, they must both agree with prebuffs or there are none,

To deal with Idiots me and someone else ended up sitting in the arena during fights to kick out any idiots, however a pair of hunters would do well because of ranged knockdowns reducing the chance of said 'idoit' dealing damage to either of the current combatants.

Achee
11-06-2009, 07:02 PM
Sounds like a good idea if it can be organised like you said. :thumb_up:

It would be good to have something to do beyond the normal warzone.

I'd be happy to compete and help out with the policing too.

veluchami
11-06-2009, 07:22 PM
I am ok with same realm pvps.. they help you practice for war.
But cant stand inter realm pvps. If you want PvPs go to Amun.
Please dont ruin the wz !!!

Zixmund
11-06-2009, 07:27 PM
If this will come together we will have more practice in 1vs1 pvp and we will better know each others abilites so I think team work in warzone will be also better too and putting people up for one think also...

Anpu
11-07-2009, 10:04 AM
Practicing 1v1 for RvR wont help much (except to lonely hunters, or testing some uber items or learning new guy about combat). Practicing coordination of team(s) is something useful for WZ (I wish Arena is team battleground, maybe like those in WoW even, with capturing flags etc). Do not forget not all spells still work in arena, and you still cant simulate well WZ field there (spells that aren't working, tiny arena space, mobs popping up from walls, ground, players popping up around and ruining events/tests, not being able to reset in Arena, various arena structure bugs etc).

As I wont ever take part in some arena events till Arena is in such a sad state, I can only offer you my range and damage for trying to keep inner arena out of intruders during your event.

I also wish you can buy Arena for some limited time, in gold, and create arena tickets with gold. Then you give tickets to those who can enter in Arena during your event (thats why you bought arena for some time, so you can organize some event).

Tickets could be like those letters we had for Valentine, and could be:
1) when you talk with Arena guardian, he gets ticket from you (disappear from inventory like in quests) and your teleportation in inner arena starts or
2) on tickets (letter-like item), organizer can write password for entering in Arena during event. Talking to Arena Guardian, he asks you for pass, you enter it, and he lets you in.
Personally, i like 1), because it is more simple and more secure way. You can tell pass in public, miss window and type in general for example.

_Enio_
11-07-2009, 07:45 PM
Practicing 1v1 for RvR wont help much (except to lonely hunters, or testing some uber items or learning new guy about combat). Practicing coordination of team(s) is something useful for WZ (I wish Arena is team battleground, maybe like those in WoW even, with capturing flags etc). Do not forget not all spells still work in arena, and you still cant simulate well WZ field there (spells that aren't working, tiny arena space, mobs popping up from walls, ground, players popping up around and ruining events/tests, not being able to reset in Arena, various arena structure bugs etc).

As I wont ever take part in some arena events till Arena is in such a sad state, I can only offer you my range and damage for trying to keep inner arena out of intruders during your event.

I also wish you can buy Arena for some limited time, in gold, and create arena tickets with gold. Then you give tickets to those who can enter in Arena during your event (thats why you bought arena for some time, so you can organize some event).

Tickets could be like those letters we had for Valentine, and could be:
1) when you talk with Arena guardian, he gets ticket from you (disappear from inventory like in quests) and your teleportation in inner arena starts or
2) on tickets (letter-like item), organizer can write password for entering in Arena during event. Talking to Arena Guardian, he asks you for pass, you enter it, and he lets you in.
Personally, i like 1), because it is more simple and more secure way. You can tell pass in public, miss window and type in general for example.

I think practicing and finding tactics in Arena / 1 vs 1 helps you much on the battlefield, even when you rarely get to have 1 vs 1 fights there, but you learn to better understand your opponents and anticipate many actions. At least i think i learnd much from Tests and PvPs (Arena, Amun and just in WZ). Much more and faster then i did the year before where i never did PvPs..

And yeah it would be nice when we could get some base which allows us to make user-created events. and an Arena Island where you can make fights with eg. 5 vs 5 or so, would really be fun to see and take part in.

Anpu
11-08-2009, 08:23 AM
If you hunt alone, you can learn more than "practicing" in Arena. Can you practice dance around warrior with Escapist in Arena, for example? Do you have enough space in Arena to test full range?
IMO, the best way is solo hunting, and learning on your mistakes. Arena gives too much false picture. Hunt introduces you with each class, various setups, and even how to use environment to gain bit more advantage. Mostly I use Arena only if I d like to test some spells like "you stand there and I ll debuff you with Finger crush and ........ to check if I ll be able to miss you less".
I m talking this from my experience on Ra though. Hunting alone with any class except hunter on Horus is boring.

Central Island could be created for Team vs Team events, with capturing flags, like in WoW. It is big enough and has some "magic points" where flags could be stored.

Hamster_of_sorrow
11-19-2009, 02:14 PM
I want to make it simple to handle all we need is to put people in one place what is hard even in wz since the syrtis mass split (5) .

That is something i dont think you really have to worry about. you have so many people in syrtis nowadays that if you get a small majority to go along with your idea, no other realm has an easy chance of denying you.