[Horus] A few statistics.

[Mattdoesrock]

Hi folks.

Lately there's been alot of talk about "OMFG U R DA ZERG, U HAS S0 MENY MOAR DEN US, ZERRRRG ZERRRRG, WTFBBQLOL WE R UNDAPOPULATID!" etc. etc. So while I was waiting for a film to buffer today (fuck my slow internet ¬¬) I decided to do some Maths. :cuac:

I was randomly browsing the highscores when I thought it might be an idea to add up some clan numbers to try and see who out numbers who.

NOW, before I start, I know that not everyone is in a clan. Not everyone will be active. Not everyone is this, that and the other. I know this, these numbers are hard evidence for flaming U R DA ZERG, HALP NDG GIV UZ DA B0NUZ! but just to give a very rough idea of some general realm numbers.

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3702/horusclanrankingnumbers.jpg

So there you go.

Clearly Syrtis waaaay out numbers both Alsius and Ignis, but the gap between Ignis and Alsius is not that far.

Make of it what you will, but please, for the love of Surak, let's at least try to keep it moderatly flame free.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

you can't use this for anything, some are inactive, some are banks, alts, there are no indication of level or lower level these are pure numbers not processed at all

you would need to play daily or have some sort of monitor to get some real statistics.

but seems like you don't know this after reading your thread :p

[UmarilsStillHere]

I think I did something like this ages ago in one of the realm number inbalance threads (flamewars) although it does give a rough Idea I think at then end you need to take into account that throughout all timezones each realm has maybe 1 or 2 hundred active players, so the numbers produced by this method although showing a sort of trend (we all know syrtis tends to have the highest with alsius and ignis swaping every few months) the numbers are just to large to be reliable :)

And thats without looking into levels, timezones, alts, banks, inactives... To get a real idea we need something off NGD listing for example how many accounts (not chars!) gained more than 300~ Rp on a char in the last week.

but seems like you don't know this after reading your thread

By suraks mullet >.>

[Mattdoesrock]

you can't use this for anything, some are inactive, some are banks, alts, there are no indication of level or lower level these are pure numbers not processed at all

you would need to play daily or have some sort of monitor to get some real statistics.

but seems like you don't know this after reading your thread :p

NOW, before I start, I know that not everyone is in a clan. Not everyone will be active. Not everyone is this, that and the other. I know this, these numbers are hard evidence for flaming U R DA ZERG, HALP NDG GIV UZ DA B0NUZ! but just to give a very rough idea of some general realm numbers.

Please Awd, I know you lack most human intelligence, but please at least read what I had said before posting.

[Pizdzius]

As I said on IRC, I don't even think it's that much overpopulated.
Ignis and Alsius have smaller groups and they manage to get big rp in their clan raids.
Syrtis just piles up in some random zerg and get 1rp spam - a lot.
Alsius is more organized - I don't know about Ignis, They seem to be masters of attacking from behind ;D
That's why I think being overpopulated doesn't mean a thing as long as Syrtis really just spams with itself.

So, Matt, in general - yeah ^^ there is a huge gap, but not in skills

[Altara]

NOW, before I start, I know that not everyone is in a clan. Not everyone will be active. Not everyone is this, that and the other. I know this, these numbers are hard evidence for flaming U R DA ZERG, HALP NDG GIV UZ DA B0NUZ! but just to give a very rough idea of some general realm numbers.



/me keeps this in mind.

Now, sure that some are banks or alts, but they are banks and Alts of people who play. As for in active, there are many inactive characters IN EACH REALM.
Coming to that conclusion, a rough estimate would be to knock maybe a hundred off of each realm, but still the ratio would pretty much be the same.

You would have to be blind to not see that Syrtis outweighs the other 2 realms most of the time. (with rare exceptions of time zones) and alsius and Ignis are about the same, sure Alsius CAN zerg and CAN take back our forts, when we actually have people on, other then that theres nothing, as the same with Ignis, and sometimes Syrtis.

But Thank you Matt for making this, I hope people will see how silly they have been every time they came whining to the forums because they got owned :3

[von1958]

lmao forest guardians says it has 233 members but active might be 20 that is counting alts if you look at it around a 24hr period at some time one of the 3 realms has the most folks online but that is timezone imbalance something your chart does not show

[Bladnoch]

If anything, this shows evidence that newbies are more than likely to pick Syrtis to join over the other two - Alsius' and Ignis' numbers are too close to determine anything else. But the green popularity shows something which could be very likely. I know I joined Syrtis initially because I thought it looked the coolest. :D

[Pizdzius]

Many people joined Syrtis because of Lord of the Rings thing /o\

[Arafails]

I wonder how many people would join Syrtis if there was a big sign up saying this (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Syrtis)....

All the same though, those numbers mean very little. Most people are in a clan, but some people who are in clans don't play anymore, there's a lot of alternate characters made that interfere with these statistics and yadda yadda yadda.

[Angelwinged_Devil]

Please Awd, I know you lack most human intelligence, but please at least read what I had said before posting.


By suraks mullet >.>

read the line carefully again and you will find the h (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony) idden message (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI) :p

[Mattdoesrock]

I don't even know what to say to you anymore.

Just because you don't have the congnitive capacity to understand what I said, doesn't make it OK to just troll.


By the way, the link was a Rick'Roll, original I know, so don't bother clicking.

[Greyman_tle]

This http://rostatus.heroku.com/world/horus

would seem to support the OP's premise...But would seem to show that syrtis has a mass logged on(5pm-midnight) and mass logged out (3am-9am) period.

Personal invites to the game, will prob have a greater effect on realm numbers, at least the highs and lows, than the promotions - these will slowly increase realm numbers across the day.

All i can say is, if your online during your realms low pop times, invite your mates who share your timezone.

[UmarilsStillHere]

This http://rostatus.heroku.com/world/horus


I love how Syrtis hits the bottem at one point :P

Proof once and for all that the syrtis zerg is highly time zone based, Ignis seems to have the numbers leed during this time with Alsius dancing around the same sort of numbers Ignis has.

Seems Ignis has the best constant player base.

[Froste]

By the way, the link was a Rick'Roll, original I know, so don't bother clicking.

Rick Roll → Brick Wall → AWD; like talking to a

[Angelwinged_Devil]

I think you guys need to update your brains to the 21'st century :)

[Anpu]

Hehe, i was doing these days statistics too, but for my own clan.
Syrtis always had "big" numbers, but their average "overall" lvl is quite low. Unlike other realms, Syrtis have many low lvl players, never ending queue of alts, especially by younger players who are under influence of Legolas syndrome.

My clan has 187 members (I know site says 188, my results are just finished and are accurate).
We have 91 members marked as "inactive". In that number also goes alts of active or inactive members (meaning alts were not recently used).
In that number goes also 4 communication chars, chars of INQ friends, who wanted to stay in touch with us in game.
In that number 22 members are those who left game/server/realm (including their alts), but they expressed wish to stay inside clan.
We also have 6 armories. And there is also one administration char (clan leader).
So, 91 inactive + 6 armories + 1 admin=98
187-98=89 left.
But we also have 16 tagged members as "semi-active" (including their alts). That means they play from time to time, not regularly.
89-16=73. Right, 73 members marked as "active". 38 of it are original chars, or as we call, "main". Thats 35 of active alts around. So, almost every active member have at least 1 "active" alt.

We really care and follow our statistics regularly, and this statistic was done to analyze if we can reduce our clan list. I doubt others in Syrtis are doing that, but following INQ's statistics, I think I can also "roughly" apply it on Syrtis realm.

IMO difference btw realms in numbers of active players is not that huge, like plain summing up from ranks show.
I remember when Syrtis was at one period very deserted, I also remember Alsius 5 days in a row sitting at Ignis' gates. I also remember couple of night invasion's and Ignis numbers there. I do not think there is very important difference in realm numbers, I think the biggest problem is different time zones. It is like every realm has its time zone, when they reach their maximum in strength and numbers. Syrtis has the biggest force during EU peak times, which affects a lot minority of EU players in other realms. Same we can apply for "night time". Just take and compare Syrtis daytime force and Syrtis night time force. Difference btw is as huge as your stats are showing btw realm numbers, Matt.
Unlike Ra, most of them are from Argentina, Spain and such, and their time zones almost match completely. Their problem is really in numbers per realm.

[Pizdzius]

I think the biggest problem is different time zones. It is like every realm has its time zone, when they reach their maximum in strength and numbers.

Yes, yes /o\ that's so true. I felt ovepopulated with Ignis so many times but my brain reminded me it depends on time. Like such - I never EVER managed to even see an invasion, neither was one of people in there.

[_dracus_]

Unlike Ra, most of them are from Argentina, Spain and such, and their time zones almost match completely. Their problem is really in numbers per realm.

If only we could have no timezone problem on Ra. Generally early morning (EU time) means almost no syrtians active in WZ. Huge number of Ignis not yet in bed. Average number of Alsius i'd say. Then the Ignis goes to bed, and it's nothing for hours except Algaros camping.

[DkySven]

Btw, we do not regard the people camping Algaros save as Alsirians. Lets just pretend they are realmless :p

[_dracus_]

Btw, we do not regard the people camping Algaros save as Alsirians. Lets just pretend they are realmless :p

Save camping or not, it's just not interesting to fight there, but we are a bit forced to if we don't want to weaken our realm. The problem doesn't come from players but from the design of the map. Save of trelleborg is way too close to the bridge.