Wisdom Like Silence & {Wisdom Like Silence}

[j3lthur3]

Really guys...a multi realm clan...
This is upsetting. Are you trying to make some sort of statement here? What's the deal?

[linearguild]

And what exactly is wrong with a bunch of friends playing in different realms? Do they collude to fight together, or do they not help realm mates being killed by other WLS members?

Let them be if they don't. Realm hate and war is not supposed to carry out of the game, you know.

[Altara]

Regarding wls yes, we are all friends and enjoy playing with/against each other. I have heard some account where wls members wont attack each other but that is for the individual player not the whole clan

Basically its a group of people that wanted a clan to have fun, with no real obligations.
Like say Aggs is taken, no one is FORCED to go, the members play as they want and come and go as they want, for the ignis and syrtis clan, they were made by others so they could have the same thing the members in alsius have.
^^

[Threno]

Really guys...a multi realm clan...

Yep :D

This is upsetting.

Awww. You probably need to get out more then.

Are you trying to make some sort of statement here?

Not really.

What's the deal?

Playing one realm is boring. Get over it. You're obviously a noob.

[Dannboy]

Watch out, you're in the grey zone right now. But if you take it any further it might end in a ban.
Just sayin'

[Threno]

Watch out, you're in the grey zone right now. But if you take it any further it might end in a ban.
Just sayin'

Take what any further?

[Mattdoesrock]

Grey zone? Haha.

[WhateverUSMC]

"2. One person is only allowed to have one account"

Just be careful, this could get you guys/gals into trouble...personally, I don't give a rats ass. However, for your own sakes, watch it a bit...

[Mattdoesrock]

It's not people multi-realming or accounting. /facepalm.

It's just people who are friends - in different realms.

[Altara]

It's not people multi-realming or accounting. /facepalm.

It's just people who are friends - in different realms.

The wonders of IRC and mumble that is~

[Dannboy]

Take what any further?

"2. One person is only allowed to have one account"

Just be careful, this could get you guys/gals into trouble...personally, I don't give a rats ass. However, for your own sakes, watch it a bit...

This.
Thank you for explaining :D

[Threno]

If you ban the members of WLS for multi-realming, you would have to ban the majority of the good regnum players, for exactly the same "sin". It will be interesting to see where NGD take this, thats for sure.

[Eaten]

If they started banning people due to multiple accounts then 90% of the Regnum community would have to be banned. Including those sharing accounts. That means... Every clan that has banks, every person who's ever accessed those banks, anyone that has bank characters of their own and anyone who made an account before the additional slots were purchasable to have the other classes. So yes go ahead and start banning people. Please. :)

You'll lose 50% or more of your entire game community.

[Vythica]

I play in all three realms. It's fun. You should try it.

[Dimes]

1st.
It's not intended for WLS to start a controversy. The intent of WLS is for a group of friends, mostly connected through the voice chat platform Mumble, along with IRC, to have something that connects us in game. There's no conspiracy to ruin the intended mechanics of the game; and this DOES NOT stop us from fighting each other, knowing in the end we're all friends.

2nd.
Eaten is correct, most of the Regnum community does have access to more than one account. But, aside from that, The idea of a multi-realming clan, does not warrant the idea of multi-accounting. You have people from all three realms, in one clan. Multi-realming? Yes. Necessarily multi-accounting? No.

3rd.
I do not wish for this thread to turn into a flame war, over controversy of WLS. Granted, it goes against the grain of the intended use of the clan system. But, this doesn't mean that we're trying to prove, or show anything.
Said and done, we're just a group of friends, across a game that's mechanics are intended to cause strife towards each other.

[ncvr]

Come on, Kailer had multi accounts when he was a normal player and he's the community manager now.

[mr_scsi]

I play in all three realms. It's fun. You should try it.

Am I wrong, or is this a public admission of 1 person having multiple accounts?

[backe]

Am I wrong, or is this a public admission of 1 person having multiple accounts?

Come on, give it a rest. Considering that it is probably more commonplace for players to have multiple accounts as opposed to one, I can hardly see any problem with admitting it. Especially seeing as it is the player with multiple accounts taking the risk of getting banned. So in the end, what do you care? If anything, being transparent about having multiple accounts is a lot more respectable than keeping it secret.

This has already been discussed to death in numerous other threads, so, whatever.

On topic:

I for one wish the WLS the best of luck, it sounds like a neat project. :thumb_up:

[mr_scsi]

Come on, give it a rest. Considering that it is probably more commonplace for players to have multiple accounts as opposed to one, I can hardly see any problem with admitting it. Especially seeing as it is the player with multiple accounts taking the risk of getting banned. So in the end, what do you care? If anything, being transparent about having multiple accounts is a lot more respectable than keeping it secret.

This has already been discussed to death in numerous other threads, so, whatever.

On topic:

I for one wish the WLS the best of luck, it sounds like a neat project. :thumb_up:

Well if Hathor is gonna get banned for borrowing an account to try and setup some pvp fun, I think the hammer should be applied equally.

[UmarilsStillHere]

Well if Hathor is gonna get banned for borrowing an account to try and setup some pvp fun, I think the hammer should be applied equally.

Go ahead, 80% of regnum will end up banned, including myself. And last I heard Hath was banned for making trouble on Syrtis realm chat.

[Warthog]

Well if Hathor is gonna get banned for borrowing an account to try and setup some pvp fun, I think the hammer should be applied equally.


If I remember correctly Hathor got reported for rude, vulgar and obscene things he said while he was on an account in syrtis looking to setup PvPs. What actually NGD banned him for I am sure only he knows, but I can pretty much guess his ban had in most part to do with the things he said, more than just the fact he was using a second account.

[chris32finney]

I served my ban and accepted what i did was wrong, as far as i'm concerned its ancient history and it aint never gonna happen again. So could i not get brought into this mudslinging please?
I have nothing to do with this and dont want to either.

[craiyzee]

multirealming is like.. Omg fun... i've been doing it for as long as i've played this game.. It's awesome to play with differen't people.. Getting to know them and such.

However.. Wls doesn't promote the breeching of any game rules, it simply gives all of us common forums, mumble and irc channel to chat in without causing controversy within clans who view the game as too serious to tolerate being friends with an "opponent". It's fun.. Try it :D

[Altara]

My my,
this isnt supposed to be a controversy.

The way I see it is this:
In Alsius there was a couple people who decided that the clans there weren't for them, that the obligations were to boring and needed a change. WLS was started. the more and more people of WLS used mumble and IRC with people from other realms, they saw how the principals worked and wanted something like that in their own realms. So the Ignis and Syrtis WLS came to be.

Now if the Ignis and Syrtis clans were named something other then WLS, It really wouldn't matter, they would still be our friends, we would still fight them, and they too would have the same principals.

But like Kaels said, it gives us a chance to use an IRC server and a mumble server under the same name, plus it sticks to you after awhile :p .
For one, I find the game much more fun when I have someone yelling in my ear for hunting them down ^^

As much as people hate multi-realms, multi-realming, talking to people in other realms; Its okay, If done right, and not abused. Spying, Abusing people, and all that. I for one do multi-realm. I came to horus and started in Syrtis after along break I came back to RO and moved to Alsius. I still use that other account in Syrtis, To go and check on people make sure they are doing well, and I'm usually there for maybe 5 mins, Some times I even go to grads. I also grind characters in each realm, when the bored'm hits me and war no longer does it, To me, its better then quitting entirely. Maybe if I got those characters high enough, I could use them to war against other WLS members, which, would be fun. Sure they are my friends BUT ITS A BLOODY GAME, and we would laugh about it during/after.

Also, Throwing Hathor out there Isn't to nice, and undeserved in a topic about a clan that he isn't in.
In WLS we have a saying:
Remember, Its just a game.

[VandaMan]

WLS is all about friends, waffle sex, and fun. Nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing wrong with having friends in other realms. :D

[craiyzee]

can't we all just hold hands? :D

[Llayne]

Is this a joke?
I don't get it.

[SolomonDean]

I was wondering how long it would take till people started complaining about my clan. I do not see what the problem is tbh.

Whether negative or positive its all free clan advertising. So meh!

[Silent_Shadow]

I hate to be rude, but wow. It's amazing (not really) how this thread moved from one topic to another so smoothly. How about everyone returns to what this thread was originally about, which was not how pointless a post was.

[Windrium]

First, LOVE Dean's post. :P Good attitude.

Next... since people say that it's just WLS supporting, and non-WLS against, or whatever... well, fine, I'll reply.

What's your deal? I mean, really, if a bunch of friends in multiple realms play together, so be it.

I'm not in WLS in Alsius or Syrtis (I would never, not in a million years leave my clan in Alsius, not with the members the way they are, and I am in a friend's clan in Syrtis for their sake). I might be inclined to join in Ignis, but I don't play there much at all. OK, sure sometimes people work together. Though, this happened before multi-realm WLS... after all, had some GREAT Alsian/Iggi Syrtian hunting parties, or Alsian/Syrtian iggi hunting parties in the past... not sure if they have had Iggi/Syrtian Alsian hunting parties... I haven't been in on those. :P

As for multiple accounts, if NGD wanted to get rid of this, the first thing they need to do is implement a banking system. A good shared (clan) and personal bank would be GREAT. Heck, personal banks are easy to figure out, then clan banks could be like... well, they could use the player ranks. So, when you deposit an item, you can set it for rank X and above, and of course everyone would always have access to whatever items they donated (with who donated it indicated, maybe? Maybe record the original and last person to deposit an item?) Say, with clan rank 1 being the leader, you could set it for anyone ranked 3+ can have access to the item, when you deposit it, and if you are the 4th rank, then you would too if you deposited it? Just a theory...

Beyond that, another reason for multiple accounts, people who want to have more than 3 players in a realm. Personally, OK, I can REALLY understand NGD on this, since the 3 player expansion is a purchasable item. All 6 of mine are on one account. For those who have the older accounts, it would be nice if, when people purchase that, they could combine accounts. Then NGD could make a way to still get people to buy the 3 player expansion, and combine, say, 2 accounts into one.

After all, actually getting the 3 player expansion is just a function of supporting the developers for their work, and I can respect that. Particularly given how much time I spend enjoying their work.

Heck, I'd gladly combine accounts if they made it so that you could buy a realm expansion to your account. Why not? I mean, MOST people do have accounts in multiple realms. It is surprising how many I talk to that do... so, work with it. I'd do it. Why not? Make it reasonably affordable, like the 3 player expansion, really, and there you go.

I mean, OK... I haven't done TOO much to support NGD yet... only have 1 L50... :P But, I see... making... an investment... when I get my other 5 Alsians to 50. :D We'll see how it goes.

Point is, people do, WLS is great, and there are some good reasons for it. Beyond that.... OK, I got a bit divergent about my thoughts. Oh well. <sighs> Maybe my point is, why don't we just respect the devs, respect the other players, and all just... like WLS says, understand it's just a game? Bother...

- Your friendly neighborhood conj: signing off.

[j3lthur3]

Regarding wls yes, we are all friends and enjoy playing with/against each other.
I have heard some account where wls members wont attack each other but that is for the individual player not the whole clan

yes i've witnessed this, not really a big deal cause it means more kills for me

Basically its a group of people that wanted a clan to have fun, with no real obligations.
Like say Aggs is taken, no one is FORCED to go, the members play as they want and come and go as they want, for the ignis and syrtis clan, they were made by others so they could have the same thing the members in alsius have.
^^

so why even have a clan if you can communicate using other methods?


1st.
It's not intended for WLS to start a controversy. The intent of WLS is for a group of friends, mostly connected through the voice chat platform Mumble, along with IRC, to have something that connects us in game. There's no conspiracy to ruin the intended mechanics of the game; and this DOES NOT stop us from fighting each other, knowing in the end we're all friends.


again don't see the reason for having a clan, but ok whatever


3rd.
I do not wish for this thread to turn into a flame war, over controversy of WLS. Granted, it goes against the grain of the intended use of the clan system. But, this doesn't mean that we're trying to prove, or show anything.
Said and done, we're just a group of friends, across a game that's mechanics are intended to cause strife towards each other.

so you admit that what you're doing is controversial and then state that you're not trying to prove or show anything...but then you all have the same clan name proudly displayed....:sifflote:....ok again same question why even bother with having a clan then?

to me it seems like your saying you're a group thats are trying to go against the grains of the conventional, by utilizing the conventional method of establishing a group.

[Heru]

All WLS members should move in 1 realm ... its useless to play in 3 realms if you cant <really> play with your friends, but its just my opinion =D

[UmarilsStillHere]

but then you all have the same clan name proudly displayed....:sifflote:....ok again same question why even bother with having a clan then?


Does your Family all live in the same house? Do you still use your Surname? Why bother?

[Pizdzius]

ok again same question why even bother with having a clan then?


why bother playing this game, then?

[Vythica]

Wow. I don't recall ever asking for anyone's opinion as to where I should play, or what clan I should be in. You don't like the clans? Don't join 'em. Holy crap! Eureka! Ffs this thread is tired. I don't care where you play and you shouldn't care about where I play. I don't go in and point out all the Apoc multi-realmers and scream at them, nor do I do that in INQ or whatever Syrtis clan is big shit this month. Ffs it's a game.

[j3lthur3]

Does your Family all live in the same house? Do you still use your Surname? Why bother?

not really the same thing, but nice try.

Wow. I don't recall ever asking for anyone's opinion as to where I should play, or what clan I should be in. You don't like the clans? Don't join 'em. Holy crap! Eureka! Ffs this thread is tired. I don't care where you play and you shouldn't care about where I play. I don't go in and point out all the Apoc multi-realmers and scream at them, nor do I do that in INQ or whatever Syrtis clan is big shit this month. Ffs it's a game.

no one asked you anything, no one said anything about not liking the clans, and why are you yelling? it's only a game.


if someone from the clan could speak up again I'd appreciate it.

[Torin_Ironfist]

it's only a game.

couldn't have said it better, thread closed.

[VandaMan]

if someone from the clan could speak up again I'd appreciate it.

Vythica is someone from the clan... but what would you like someone from the clan to speak up about?

[Ulti19]

i just read this thread and think just leave these guys alone, who cares how they play, it's their choice, let them have fun the way they want to.* If they aren't ruining the game for people there is no reason not to let them have a good time playing RO this way. And who cares that they have a clan even though they communicate in other ways, it's their business.

[Vythica]

Here, I'll post again so you can read my sig this time.

[ncvr]

no one asked you anything, no one said anything about not liking the clans, and why are you yelling? it's only a game.

Really guys...a multi realm clan...
This is upsetting. Are you trying to make some sort of statement here? What's the deal?
..........

[WhateverUSMC]

Does this whole thing, like, really matter? Are there people out there who are so upset at this that they stay up at night worrying about it?

I'm kinda looking at it this way; at least they're still playing.

I think that at least some of the WLS guys have been playing for a while, and the fact that they are still playing despite positional bugs, phantom swings, and static gameplay (not to mention the nerfs at the cyclic rate) has to count for something.

In fact; kudos to everyone who has stuck it out, WLS or not.

*On a seperate note and not exactly related (but still topical, since it happened in this thread); I sure am glad that, despite these mounting in-game errors and bugs, and all the other RO problems, I am eternally grateful that we have someone over there who has dedicated his days to removing my stupid images from the forum.

Forget all the issues that have been making people RageQuitLogOffAndThrowTheir ComputersInTheDumpsterInTheBackOfSears;

never mind the amount of people who need customer assistance and still haven't gotten it;

and set aside those who hope and pray things will get better.

It's much more important that we have an individual whose sole task is removing stupid comments and pictures.

But only some of them. It's only fair.

[/rant]

[Orimae]

All WLS members should move in 1 realm ... its useless to play in 3 realms if you cant <really> play with your friends, but its just my opinion =D

My thoughts exaclty...multiaccounting in one realm ..sure, why not...but in two or 3 realms...kinda...:thumb_down:

[VandaMan]

My thoughts exaclty...multiaccounting in one realm ..sure, why not...but in two or 3 realms...kinda...:thumb_down:

I think it's a misunderstanding really, it's not that WLS members all play in multiple realms, just that we have members in each realm. Most only play one realm. Of course there are a couple who play in 2 or all 3, but you can find those in nearly every clan. The clan being in all 3 realms is what the OP meant (I believe).

[w_larsen]

it would be nice and fun and whatnot, if not for wls members from other realms savecamping our saves. and for some strange reason, i get the gut feeling, that there are some traveling souls then turning on to own realmmates.

[dejan]

WLS is one of the best ideas I have seen on Regnum. End of story. I have seen WLS players kill each, and I know for sure they always do, and enjoy fighting each other. I personally see nothing bad in that.

WLS has my absolute respect. Sure this does not mean i will not try to kill WLS members from Ignis and Alsius. ;)

PS. There is W-L-S in Syrtis too. :)

[j3lthur3]

i just read this thread and think just leave these guys alone, who cares how they play, it's their choice, let them have fun the way they want to.* If they aren't ruining the game for people there is no reason not to let them have a good time playing RO this way. And who cares that they have a clan even though they communicate in other ways, it's their business.

I in no way intended to stop their fun. I wished only to get an idea of what their deal was to aide in my actions in game. that's all.


..........

Where does it say I don't like the clans? Your implying that the act of being disturbed is the same showing a dislike for something? I see you're the "king of call outs" but that's a stretch.


Here, I'll post again so you can read my sig this time.
sig? don't see it. But thanks for your reply. I think I now have a better understanding of who WLS is. See ya in the war zone. :swordfight:

[ncvr]

It's not being disturbed, it's being upset. If something upsets you, you obviously dislike it.

I in no way intended to stop their fun. I wished only to get an idea of what their deal was to aide in my actions in game. that's all.
Right. By telling them that it was upsetting that they had a multi-realm clan? Since when did people need a valid reason to make a clan anyway? Really, this is upsetting.

[backe]

Methinks this j3lthur3 fellow is just an elaborate troll: first thread, four total posts, half of which are rather contradictory... :rolleyes2:

[Altara]

me thinks its someone who got pwn'd by a couple of WLS members ;-;

[gamemod]

Me thinks this thread needs to be closed, just to avoid more unnecessary problems.