New notebook

[Yawney]

Hello,

I'm considering buying a new notebook. The only game I play is RO so my requirement is for it to run RO with max details or close to. If you're running RO under Linux with high details, can you please post your configuration so I know what should I be looking for?

Thank you

[Myxir]

Since the performance is kind of bad on linux systems it would take you much much money to get a notebook that can run it fluently on highest details, i guess.

I plan to buy the Dell Studio 1558 but not for gaming. But I think it should be able to run regnum decently at lower or middle settings.

[DkySven]

I can play Regnum with high settings.

My system is Arch Linux on a laptop with an Intel Pentium T4300 dual core 2.1 GHz processor, graphic card is a Nvidia Geforce G 103M and I have 4 GB RAM

[NotScias]

It seems to work faster and better on Linux with NVIDIA cards, so I recommend you to pick one having a NVIDIA GPU.

[Znurre]

Just pick a laptop with a new NVidia GPU and as much Intel components (wlan, soundcard, etc) as possible and you'll be fine.

[Syd_Vicious]

Here are my recommendations:

CPU: 2 ghz or higher
Video Card: NVIDIA GT 100 series or better with at least 512mb of dedicated memory (latest update makes the texture buffer run a little over 300mb if I remember from what Kailer said), so you dont cause any cycling back to main memory that will kill performance.
Memory: 3gb or higher DDR2
HD: what ever above 80gb SATA2 minimum (you will mainly see 250gb or bigger now a days)

I'm more partial to AMD than Intel, but whatever - its about personal preference. I prefer bang for the buck. You can get a pretty decent laptop for around 13,569 CZK here in the states, if you want more performance than that you will have to start shelling out some cash.

[adraly]

I have it low settings for no lag .. the best one is Linux with NVIDIA cards

[nkombose]

Sorry for hijacking the thread folks, but has anyone tried nvidia ION based netbooks (Lenovo IdeaPad S12, HP Mini 311, Asus Eee PC 1201N and the Samsung N510 are the most common ones) or nettops (a lot more contenders here)? I might be able to buy a netbook and want to check whether it can run RO (under linux ofc :cuac:) or not. Any ION owners out there?:looking:

[Lucky_Luke]

Bumping.
Im about to buy 1201N, anyone tried yet RO on that hardware?

[S_N_I_P_E_R]

Bumping.
Im about to buy 1201N, anyone tried yet RO on that hardware?

TBH you could probably run RO on that netbook, but I wouldn't expect it to work well, you would have low FPS, it would probably be fine for grinding solo or in small groups but forget fort fights.

[Lucky_Luke]

Well... I really need an answer which is 100% sure. I asked one 1201N owner to make a test. We will see the result, I hope.

[nkombose]

Reviving the old thread: has someone tried RO on
- ATI HD4225,
- ATI HD3200,
- NVIDIA ION/ION2 (9400M),
- or on the new Intel HD (Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD Graphics)?
There's lots of info on the net on these cards (notebookcheck.net, youtube reviews and/or gameplay videos, etc.), but I'm interested in your XP :)

Some really cool small laptops, like the Lenovo U160, Lenovo ThinkPad x100e, HP dm1z, HP dm3z and the Dell M101z use these graphic units. /me is still looking for da perfect 11.6"-13.3" laptop... :rolleyes:

[Cuchulainn]

I tried RO on a Radeon HD 3200 with a Athlon X2 2.3 GHz CPU (settings: fixed pipeline, without force safe mode activated, OpenGL) RO runs at about 25-35 fps, with the CPU load at 90+% if there are a few other players around. The framerate drops a lot if there are more players around.

I guess the GeForce 9400M is slightly faster, and the Intel GPUs are a bit slower.

If I needed a better notebook, I would wait till next year to buy a new one. In the next year AMD will introduce the two APU's (APU=CPU+GPU on one chip) Bobcat for netbooks and Llano for mainstream notebooks and low cost PC's. I read somewhere that Llano will have a graphic chip of a evergreen card, which would be Radeon 5570 or 5670 which are multiple times faster than the graphic cards above.

[Myxir]

I tested RO on my Dell Studio 1558
It has:
Intel Core i3 330m @ 2,13 Ghz
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4550
3 GB Ram
ArchLinux 64 Bit

On medium settings I have aproximately 40 - 50 FPS standing at central save with a few players around.
When I stand between CS and PP1 I have 35 FPS with this settings. Playing on lowest settings should be possible without problems.

[Hamster_of_sorrow]

i just bought a new one for $1549 (USD) and it RULES for regnum. i can run on the highest settings at 100 fps (when im alone) and it never goes below 40 fps (in a zerg).

it is an ASUS G73JH-A1

here is the one i bought http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g73jha1-stock-p-2731.html

[nkombose]

Thx for the feedback guys.

I tried RO on a Radeon HD 3200 with a Athlon X2 2.3 GHz CPU (settings: fixed pipeline, without force safe mode activated, OpenGL) RO runs at about 25-35 fps, with the CPU load at 90+% if there are a few other players around. The framerate drops a lot if there are more players around.

AFAIK HD 4225 is slightly better in terms of performance than the HD 3200, but not by much.

If I needed a better notebook, I would wait till next year to buy a new one. In the next year AMD will introduce the two APU's (APU=CPU+GPU on one chip) Bobcat for netbooks and Llano for mainstream notebooks and low cost PC's.

Well I guess I'm back to my old problem. You see I never seem to find a decent notebook that fits the bill (11.6"-13.3", with decent performance, the hardware should be almost fully supported in the latest Linux kernels, and is able to run RO ofc) so I always end up waiting for the next gen stuff. :smile:

/me waited for new Intel Atom CPUs, but they ended up really bad in performance, waited for new ION based netbooks, but never really showed up (just a few I already mentioned), then waited for the ION 2... and guess what? There's no really substantial improvement over the older one. AMD stuff tend to be a bit less energy efficient but have more competitive GPUs than the Intel stuff (4500M, 4500MHD, HD). Well I guess I'll either wait for the new Llano, Ontario microprocessor designs and buy one, or wait for the price drop for the "older" technology.:naughty:

I tested RO on my Dell Studio 1558...
When I stand between CS and PP1 I have 35 FPS with this settings...
Wow... I'm a bit shocked here. I thought that kind of setup would run RO at much higher FPS. HD 4550 is a decent GPU for a laptop. Do you use windows or linux?

i just bought a new one for $1549 (USD) and it RULES for regnum...
Wow no.2 That's just an overkill. I'd never buy a notebook with 15.6"+ screen size, nor can't afford to spend that much on a nb (my starting salary as a risk manager isn't that great to say the least :razz:), but nevertheless a good purchase if it fits you :drinks:

[Freduardo]

Just happened to look into these AMD Congo or Nile based laptops a bit myself.
Not to use as a desktop replacement, but just as something on the side. Preferably with a nice and small screen, decent battery life, running cool and quiet,... and yeah for occasionally playing a game like regnum on it

I looked through shitloads of reviews, Dell's M101z and M301z, Acer 7xx, Thinkpad x100e (omg do want!), MSI u230 and u250, etc etc...
Every time getting to the same conclusion; Heat and noise. AMD still hasn't managed to make a reasonably cool chip.

As for the difference between HD 3200 and HD4225; The only reason worth even considering going for the outdated 3200 would be the Thinkpad x100e for me, which had everything I was looking (great keyboard, matte screen!, looks, ...) for but apparently gets way too hot :/
Otherwise I see no reason for going for the old Congo platform.


Afaik the newer atom notebooks with ION2 don't have a dual core processor yet, so I didn't look into those.


Anyway, I ended up going for a slightly larger notebook, at 14 inch. With an Intel CULV processor and an Ati 4330 gfx card (Lenovo u450p). I just wasn't comfortable with all the heat and noise issues. Maybe I was reading too much into it and the reviews exaggerated a bit, but I didn't feel like taking the risk.

Now I'm waiting for delivery, should be any day now (it's in the country according to my "track and trace" thingy...


Oh, and I'm totally with you on the screen size thing, 15.6 is really on the big size for me, and most of them only have the same resolution you find in 11.6 and 13.3 inch models anyway...

[Lucky_Luke]

Afaik the newer atom notebooks with ION2 don't have a dual core processor yet, so I didn't look into those.


Asus Eee PC 1215N - Atom D525 (1.80 GHz, 1 MB Cache):

http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=49490

Regards.

[Myxir]

Wow... I'm a bit shocked here. I thought that kind of setup would run RO at much higher FPS. HD 4550 is a decent GPU for a laptop. Do you use windows or linux?
Linux as I wrote under the system specs.
Regnum performance on Linux is not good, ATI Drivers on Linux are not good plus Catalyst 10.5 is the newest that works for me.
And it seems ATI does not run good with Regnum in general.

[Yttrium]

Linux as I wrote under the system specs.
Regnum performance on Linux is not good, ATI Drivers on Linux are not good plus Catalyst 10.5 is the newest that works for me.
And it seems ATI does not run good with Regnum in general.

Which shader model do you use? I'm on the 10.6 drivers on linux with an HD 4800 and I crash often in shader model 3 and 4. Shader model 2 runs fine, but I'm missing out on some of the new tactical graphics (archer trails.) Would a downgrade to 10.5 possibly help me?

[Cuchulainn]

Which shader model do you use? I'm on the 10.6 drivers on linux with an HD 4800 and I crash often in shader model 3 and 4. Shader model 2 runs fine, but I'm missing out on some of the new tactical graphics (archer trails.) Would a downgrade to 10.5 possibly help me?

I don't crash often on linux with a Radeon 4650 shader 4.0 on Fedora 13 with Catalyst 10.7 if I turn weapon trails off. If its off I ussually only crash when I minimize the regnum window and switch back to regnum after several minutes.

On this computer with Radeon 4650, Phenom X2 545 3.0 GHz, Fedora 13 64bit the framerate is ussually at 30-50 fps. During an Invasion on RA with about 100 players around it's still at 15+ fps with shadows and multitexturing turned off.