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PT_DaAr_PT
08-22-2010, 04:46 PM
I'd like to know how much HP your knights have, with items and passive spells of course because it's with those things that you normally play them.

Some Info about my knight:
I chose a bad Ignean race for my knight: Molok (not much constitution compared to Esquelio)
My initiation attributes were wasted on: Strenght (again if I had chosen constitution, with an Esquelio race, I'd have a big boost on HP)
Items that provide me more health: Nada (jewelry in Ignis suck, drop chance is obviously broken mainly because shields with bonuses aren't droppable anymore and level 50's mobs drop mostly level 30's crap. I refuse to wear special items in these conditions)

Total HP on Horus: 4025
Total HP on Amun: 4195


In conclusion, my knight sucks, show me yours.

DkySven
08-22-2010, 04:54 PM
My knight has 4520 hp at Ra and 4741 at Amun.

I have health form the Royal Amulet and the Flame of the Ancestors-ring and have 106 constitution:
-Stone Temple(5)
-+2 const ring
-About 10 constitution from my armour

Mattdoesrock
08-22-2010, 05:14 PM
Dwarf, 109 Const. (I think.)

4857 base, 5307 with Troll Skin.

Royal amulet, health rings, 145hp +1 const BP, 4 Const paulds, 3 Const shield.


EDIT: I forgot what the values are on amun, but I think I have ~5000 base hp now.

VandaMan
08-22-2010, 05:20 PM
Over 9000!

UmarilsStillHere
08-22-2010, 05:32 PM
On Amun my knight (44) has 4114hp (87 const + 202hp from ammy/items)

My barb has 4345 with 90 const.

Mikan
08-22-2010, 06:07 PM
I don't have alot of HP, like 5k on Amun with an average setup and a few buffs e.g Stone temple and Troll's skin lv4, Blood thirsty axe.

But if this change to get other realms quest items goes through... you'll see me with like 1600+ mana...

Wes_
08-22-2010, 06:45 PM
On horus my knight has 115 const, 4657 hp without troll skin, 5107 with

Stone temple 5, +5 const bp, +5 const paulds, + 5 const shield, gods amulet
Esquelio

Note: could be a little higher if I used the crappy ignis health rings xD

Pakos
08-22-2010, 06:51 PM
esquelo will full 5 const wes? ;o

my dark elf has 108 const
horus stats: 4500 base life, 4950 with trolls/stone temple at 5
amun: ll bit more than 5k, still waiting for those quests amus from other realms :)

Wearing 70 ammy, 5 const pauldrons, 5 const bp, 3 const shield.

Pwnography
08-22-2010, 07:00 PM
95 cons with 4451 hp on horus, and 4626 on amun, but when i get the 80 hp rings with from the quest i will have 4722.
P.S. this is my barb =D

Gawyn_Trakkand
08-22-2010, 07:42 PM
4735 base hp 5185 with troll skin on horus 4925 base 5375 with troll skin on amun.

My hp items are 4 const bp and 3 const paulds 3 const sheild. 110 constitution

mana though is 150 mana helm 120 mana legs for 1585 mana :D

/me waits for fredu ardo to post and put us all to shame

Dannboy
08-22-2010, 07:44 PM
95 cons with 4451 hp on horus, and 4626 on amun, but when i get the 80 hp rings with from the quest i will have 4722.
P.S. this is my barb =D

You have....more health than my Knight?
NGD, NERF!

Pakos
08-22-2010, 08:17 PM
4735 base hp 5185 with troll skin on horus 4925 base 5375 with troll skin on amun.

My hp items are 4 const bp and 3 const paulds 3 const sheild. 110 constitution

mana though is 150 mana helm 120 mana legs for 1585 mana :D

/me waits for fredu ardo to post and put us all to shame

i have similar mana items, 125 helm and 120 leggins with overall 1500 mana :P

Vythica
08-22-2010, 09:04 PM
Not exactly sure what (the knight I used to play) has for HP, but he's got almost 5k @ lvl 47 as a dark elf. More to the point; has anyone dropped a +5 const shield lately? I only know of myself and a very small minority of others who have one.

Pakos
08-22-2010, 09:08 PM
Not exactly sure what (the knight I used to play) has for HP, but he's got almost 5k @ lvl 47 as a dark elf. More to the point; has anyone dropped a +5 const shield lately? I only know of myself and a very small minority of others who have one.

depends how long mean lately for you, anyway since im playing knight (like one and half year or more) never dropped special one -.-

Mikan
08-22-2010, 10:13 PM
i have similar mana items, 125 helm and 120 leggins with overall 1500 mana :P
This makes me cry. My helm is low and has only +79 mana, with no mana bonus on the leggings. :ohill:

(I would have around 1750 mana with such items, Nordo FTW. :biggrin:)

Pakos
08-22-2010, 10:20 PM
This makes me cry. My helm is low and has only +79 mana, with no mana bonus on the leggings. :ohill:

(I would have around 1750 mana with such items, Nordo FTW. :biggrin:)

oh cmon, its easier to get mana items than const, shield for example :biggrin:

Mikan
08-22-2010, 10:35 PM
oh cmon, its easier to get mana items than const, shield for example :biggrin:
I use a level 40 +4 Const Guardian shield fused to Winged. It was a gift from my clan, and Good to pierce so not too bad. But I am worried that in the upcoming update it will be useless due to the excessive dependancy on armor and block chance that NGD is trying to introduce. :(

Oh well.

Vythica
08-22-2010, 11:56 PM
I use a level 40 +4 Const Guardian shield fused to Winged. It was a gift from my clan, and Good to pierce so not too bad. But I am worried that in the upcoming update it will be useless due to the excessive dependancy on armor and block chance that NGD is trying to introduce. :(

Oh well.

I have a +5 const oppressor. :)

blood-raven
08-23-2010, 02:33 PM
omg, all this health! on my marks i only have 3000 and 1500 mana with wits on 4.
sheesh xD

bois
08-23-2010, 03:09 PM
I enjoy playing the tough Molok.

Currently I have 4160HP which could be boosted to 4205 with a 43 BP I have.

On Amun I can move up to 4383 with the same BP.

My constitution is either 96 or 98 depending on armour. I cannot muster any more const. Sure I can use TS but I hardly skill it past (2).

I have 2 + const items . A +2 pauldron and a +2 BP. That's it. No amulets or any other items. I have the rings but those are practically useless to me.

Thinking about 5K health is a mere dream for me. Quite interesting that many barbs have more health than me. I still manage make myself a nuisance out there.

Artec

Gytha_Ogg
08-23-2010, 03:12 PM
omg, all this health! on my marks i only have 3000 and 1500 mana with wits on 4.
sheesh xD

3000 health?! Luxury!!! Why, on my conj...

--
Four Yorkshireconjs

Jippy
08-23-2010, 03:27 PM
"4735 base hp 5185 with troll skin on horus 4925 base 5375 with troll skin on amun. My hp items are 4 const bp and 3 const paulds 3 const sheild. 110 constitution"

Gaw, we are twins...

Heglin
08-23-2010, 03:37 PM
4690 HP (without Troll's skin), CONST 116 on RA

Gabburtjuh
08-23-2010, 05:08 PM
omg, all this health! on my marks i only have 3000 and 1500 mana with wits on 4.
sheesh xD

Poor guy, 3030 hp and 1660 mana on my hunter, wits 1 and no hp rings. :P

Vythica
08-24-2010, 12:57 AM
Ok, after checking on Horus, lvl 47 dark elf knight has 109 const and 4837 hp with TS.

Pwnography
08-24-2010, 01:12 AM
Ok, after checking on Horus, lvl 47 dark elf knight has 109 const and 4837 hp with TS.

and when do i get his gear again?

TheMessenger
08-24-2010, 06:01 AM
and when do i get his gear again?

when you give me yours? :D

-ltl-
08-24-2010, 07:32 AM
A guy named Maxi-dragon or something like that on RA Ignis reached aproximately 6300.
I think there is a image in the "Imagenes" section on Spanish forum

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7458/screenshot2009061523202.jpg


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3342/escudob.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/844/pechera.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2682/yelmo.jpg

EDIT here are teh pics :O

Hamster_of_sorrow
08-24-2010, 07:46 AM
A guy named Maxi-dragon or something like that on RA Ignis reached aproximately 6300.
I think there is a image in the "Imagenes" section on Spanish forum

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7458/screenshot2009061523202.jpg


http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3342/escudob.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/844/pechera.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/2682/yelmo.jpg

EDIT here are teh pics :O

that guy's armor is insane. i think it might be left over from when you could get insane stats on armor. i haven't seen anything with +7 const on it.

Ulti19
08-24-2010, 07:51 AM
A helm with constitution :O I wish that existed in our timexD
my knight only has 97 cons (vanguard only on lv 15 atm so cons passive lv 4) and 4180 hp now after some configuration. Defense 908.

Out of the 13 almost mil exp I have for the knight, I've yet to drop a special shield lol. One day ^^

Pakos
08-24-2010, 10:35 AM
holy fuc....... :sifflote:

Pwnography
08-24-2010, 10:46 AM
Out of the 13 almost mil exp I have for the knight, I've yet to drop a special shield lol. One day ^^

Its not possible anymore(?)

Angel_de_Combate
08-24-2010, 11:02 AM
omg, all this health! on my marks i only have 3000 and 1500 mana with wits on 4.
sheesh xD

3150 hp and 1500 mana with wits on lvl 1 ^^(my marks btw) and my conj has more of each..

Minorian
08-24-2010, 11:49 AM
My knight has 3986 health with 3 consti bp, nothing else, but im only lvl 42 o you cant make fun of me too much :superpusso:


Out of the 13 almost mil exp I have for the knight, I've yet to drop a special shield lol. One day ^^

Wasn't it decided that NGD disabled them due to the fact that the extra bonus was OP?

bois
08-24-2010, 12:47 PM
The forum decided that was the reason. NGD never commented on it.

Art

Pakos
08-24-2010, 01:03 PM
And they're aware to tell us, never answered my questions besides of Dky but he's not involved in game programming :P

Kittypretty
08-24-2010, 01:43 PM
Well I believe a knight as of now on Horus can still easily obtain the max possible base of 5097 (i think, im not 100% sure but it was around there) with items anyone can get and zero conts gear at all.(not talking about dragon amu and such, just basic quest ring/amu/weapon, starting points, the skills: trolls skin, stone temple passive both maxxed) (2x HP rings, bloodthirsty sword, medal of courage)

I never skilled for conts really..i never used trolls skin or stone temple higher than 3 usually, but if i did, My hp max at 5189 currently.
my items arent good either (3 Conts +69 HP BP, and 3 Conts +5 Cs paulds, had a 5 conts shield but sold it on Horus, IDK who owns it now, I just figured I am putting my knight out of play till they become useful again, so my shield was my best item and It would be a shame to leave it unused, so it was sold and i dont regret it at all, Im sure who has it now likes it.
I chose str in my starting points (was gonna be a barb) So honestly HP isnt important to me, i usually just use 2 dr rings, no troll skin, maybe st 3, and courage amu with passive blunt resist as my armor sucks on blunt.

Mr_Egg
08-24-2010, 03:10 PM
Poor guy, 3030 hp and 1660 mana on my hunter, wits 1 and no hp rings. :P

On my conj:
3487 hp, 1961 mana :sifflote:

Passive mana/int both level 1
2 hp rings
Medal of courage
165 mana hat (thanks Wolfhound Strider!)
7 const, 145hp, some resist chance tunic (thanks fritsosss!)
155hp staff (thanks Eyfura!)
165 mana, 5% cs, 6 conc gloves (thanks NGD :p)

blood-raven
08-24-2010, 04:04 PM
3150 hp and 1500 mana with wits on lvl 1 ^^(my marks btw) and my conj has more of each..

hu, something tells me i need better gear.

Pnarpa
08-24-2010, 04:09 PM
On my conj:
3487 hp, 1961 mana :sifflote:

Passive mana/int both level 1
2 hp rings
Medal of courage
165 mana hat (thanks Wolfhound Strider!)
7 const, 145hp, some resist chance tunic (thanks fritsosss!)
155hp staff (thanks Eyfura!)
165 mana, 5% cs, 6 conc gloves (thanks NGD :p)

That tunic is just... tss... I hate you, Egg. I'll boil you. All my conjurer has is some weird green looking tunic.

Kittypretty
08-24-2010, 05:04 PM
I wish someone would give me a nice item liek that too :) so far all ive done is give..and get nothing back lol. All i ever did was put myself in a bad position, giving away great items to people who never thought twice about me, so my items on my conj are subpar, ive only managed to scrape together enough mana gear to help grinders in support (i love helping though, its what i enjoy, whether or not its a thankless job) So my Hp is a pitiful 2772 and my mana is 2843. Maybe someday I will get really nice gear from someone who remembered :P i can dream lol.
I guess my biggest want right now is a nice barb leggings for 50, magical if possible..resist stats mostly, as i8m trying to build a set around passive resists..so slash/pierce/physical/magical resists would be nice..i dont need mana or attack speed leggings lke everyone else..:P

and maybe some good cs gloves..and an int hat..as all i use is a vesper hat, which i want to sell when i find a good int +mana hat, I use a pair of 150 mana + 6 conc gloves..but id love to have cs and mana! :P sounds nice, i will sell the mana gloves when i too find (someday) a pair with both mana and cs. Im hoping to be able to get better gear and donate what i wear currently, when I can find replacements.

Mikan
08-24-2010, 05:41 PM
Just a few notes on how other Knights acheive these HP levels:
- Your starting race only loses or gains you something like 112 HP, if you don't put points into Const then 225
- The Bloodthirsty axe from that Runestones quest helps a ton! (+200hp)
- Don't underestimate the Ignis rings and amulets, they suck but that's still up to +134 HP
- Stone temple(5) is +352 HP on Amun, +334 HP on RA/Horus

So the maximum bonuses for Ignis are:
- +134 from Items
- +450 from Troll's skin
- +200 from the axe? I think all realms have it
- +334 from Stone temple
- +112 from the Shield (somewhat rare)
- +112 from the Pauldrons
- +237 from the BP (rare, 112 is more common)
- +250 from Dragon amulet (rare)

The total is +1,579 with God's amulet, +1,759 with Dragon amulet, and half of it can be obtained without hunting gears. The maximum bonus for Syrtis is 176 HP higher, and for Alsius 126 depending on item choice, however those items are easier to obtain, which makes them OP.

Kind regards.

Pwnography
08-24-2010, 05:45 PM
Just a few notes on how other Knights acheive these HP levels:
- Your starting race only loses or gains you something like 112.5 HP, if you don't put points into Const then 225
- The Bloodthirsty axe from that Runestones quest helps a ton! (+200hp)
- Don't underestimate the Ignis rings and amulets, they suck but that's still up to +134 HP
- Stone temple(5) is +352 HP on Amun, +334 HP on RA/Horus

So the maximum bonuses for Ignis are:
- +134 from Items
- +450 from Troll's skin
- +200 from the axe? I think all realms have it
- +334 from Stone temple
- +112 from the Shield
- +112 from the Pauldrons
- +237 from the BP
- +250 from Dragon amulet

The total is +1,579 with God's amulet, +1,759 with Dragon amulet, and half of it can be obtained without hunting gears. The maximum bonus for Syrtis is 176 HP higher, and for Alsius 126 depending on item choice, however those items are easier to obtain, which makes them OP.

Kind regards.
Ignis Doesnt get the axe =(

Mikan
08-24-2010, 05:47 PM
Ignis Doesnt get the axe =(
Yeah, now that I think of it, that quest (~LV39) gives the Lghtning ring instead in Ignis instead. :cuac:

Gawyn_Trakkand
08-24-2010, 06:03 PM
Ignis Doesnt get the axe =(

i dont know of anyone who actively uses it in fighting anyway. In syrtis it's a sword too though both slashing so doesnt make much of a difference

Kittypretty
08-24-2010, 06:08 PM
FYI as well, the counterpart to the Bloodthirsty axe in Syrtis is the Bloodthirsty sword, during the bloodless heart quest by (porlas?)

Angel_de_Combate
08-25-2010, 12:27 PM
hu, something tells me i need better gear.

Alasthor Dragon helm +150 mana
Alasthor Dragon breastplate +5 const
(also - Alasthor Dragon gauntlets +25 hit chance, resist cold +3
Alasthor Dragon leggings +5 dex and Comp scale pauldrons +2% cs and +3% resist fire).

Vythica
08-25-2010, 04:00 PM
i dont know of anyone who actively uses it in fighting anyway. In syrtis it's a sword too though both slashing so doesnt make much of a difference

Of course it wouldn't be useful for a knarb, but for a CC/Tank build where dmg isn't an issue, I'd kill to have one of those.


NGD, please consider adding that quest to Ignis, as I know some non-knarb, full support knights who would love that. Unfortunately the way you have it set up now, you're giving an awesome piece of tank gear to two realms full of knarbs.

Gawyn_Trakkand
08-25-2010, 06:08 PM
Off topic:
Of course it wouldn't be useful for a knarb, but for a CC/Tank build where dmg isn't an issue, I'd kill to have one of those.


Well if you got to go all "true knights would kill for it" Slashing is probably one of the worst trees for true knights it only offers one effective CC and as you switch weapons to pierce or blunt which are much more effective you wouldnt get the bonus very often anyway.

Besides with knights that have access to it i have NEVER seen them use it among them are the likes of;

Roofus the Stuntbum
Lust
Mattdoesblock
shur gupt
Falcorn Bosso
Zeric of Ga

All of the above are true knight built and none of them use a bloodthirsty axe/sword.

anyway before this thread goes completely off topic.

On topic: Fredu Ardo is still yet to post and put us all to shame XD he has very close to 5k hp on the live servers without trollskin

Vythica
08-25-2010, 06:22 PM
There hasn't been much opportunity for "true" knights to participate after 1.0. More to the point I was speaking of the "new" knight design; i.e. my build will not include dmg trees past d.limb or balestra. In a full support setup (auras, d.stance, etc.) dlimb is a nice CC spell and is low in the tree enough to not affect the build by much. For a dedicated support tank that sword would be invaluable. Not everybody plays a knight to do 800dmg s.crosses.

fritsz
08-25-2010, 09:17 PM
that guy's armor is insane. i think it might be left over from when you could get insane stats on armor. i haven't seen anything with +7 const on it.

My tunic has +7const +160hp +2evade dropped it few months ago at efe beach.
91 mana hat (crapXD)
+12cs staf +6cs gloves
amu, +150 hp
rings +84 mana

I have 3100 hp with it and 1896 all mana/int passives at 1

On my conj:

7 const, 145hp, some resist chance tunic (thanks fritsosss!)


Your welcome egg:D


That tunic is just... tss... I hate you, Egg. I'll boil you. All my conjurer has is some weird green looking tunic.

Poor you:p

Mr_Egg
08-25-2010, 09:21 PM
That tunic is just... tss... I hate you, Egg. I'll boil you. All my conjurer has is some weird green looking tunic.

I was about to say Frits has an even better tunic, but....

My tunic has +7const +160hp +2evade dropped it few months ago at efe beach.


...he beat me to it. :cuac:

Freduardo
08-25-2010, 09:56 PM
Horus: 4997 || 5447 with TS (5) || 5647 with TS (5) and BT axe (which I occasionally use for DL, depends on my mood)
Amun: More :P Really cba to check it (I've developed a serious case of "amunitis" lately) but I suppose I could max it out close to 5850.

I have 115 const; Dwarf with 5 extra points in constitution (35 to start with), +5 each from Shield - Paulds - Breastplate. And some unimportant amulet :wub2:

Its fun to max const, for me at least, but doesn't mean too much in rvr, or even pvp. I only have 1315 mana, which is a serious handicap imho ! (Pity me!! xD)

Angel_de_Combate
08-26-2010, 02:03 PM
I only have 1315 mana, which is a serious handicap imho !

/me has a plan..that you should consider Fred :p


Maybe you could swapsy's And some unimportant amulet :wub2: for mana though is 150 mana helm 120 mana legs for 1585 mana

Just an idea...XD

Pwnography
08-26-2010, 04:30 PM
My tunic has +7const +160hp +2evade dropped

I think what hamster meant was on a warrior armour part. Only mages can get +7 of anything now.

Hamster_of_sorrow
08-26-2010, 04:39 PM
I think what hamster meant was on a warrior armour part. Only mages can get +7 of anything now.

indeed that IS what i meant.

Freduardo
08-26-2010, 05:18 PM
/me has a plan..that you should consider Fred :p


Maybe you could swapsy's for

Just an idea...XD

xD Nice try. But I fancy my chances more to drop some mana gear (eventually), than to drop another amulet. Besides, those pants are protector ... eww :)

Gawyn_Trakkand
08-26-2010, 06:45 PM
lol Fuuuuuuuuuu they could be full plate lvl 30 for all i care with 120 mana

Gabburtjuh
09-11-2010, 10:46 AM
ha, just remembered this thread, lvl 39 nordo knight stone 5 troll 5(war setup) 2x flame of the ancestors(160 hp) royal ammu(100hp) bloodthirsty axe(200hp) 4 const bp 3 const pauld 3 const shield, total of 94const, abit over 4,5k hp :P