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Torg_Snowflake
09-15-2010, 02:23 PM
I searched for a piece of text in Piz's thread. 5 sentences in a row pasted in google and bing searches.

Google results: Found the thread, first result.

Bing results: I've never found myself having trouble in choosing between "lol wut" and "WTF".

UmarilsStillHere
09-15-2010, 04:20 PM
Its a Micro$oft product, what do you expect? ^^

Pizdzius
09-15-2010, 04:40 PM
How do I know if I'm a lesbian?

Arafails
09-15-2010, 04:42 PM
How do I know if I'm a lesbian?
All lesbians are taurus men?

Gytha_Ogg
09-15-2010, 05:05 PM
How do I know if I'm a lesbian?

Are you a native of the Greek island of Lesbos in the Aegean Sea? If yes, then you are. If not, I've heard there are some other criteria, but that's outside my area of expertise. Google maybe able to help you there. But possibly not Bing. :biggrin:

time-to-die
09-15-2010, 05:23 PM
google ownz always:horsey:

Metal_Mario
09-15-2010, 05:47 PM
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1596/googlemicrosoftyahoo.jpg

Google > Microsoft

Mrreality13
09-16-2010, 01:07 AM
How do I know if I'm a lesbian?
did you mean Thespian ? lol:superpusso:

Pizdzius
09-16-2010, 02:12 AM
Have you ever cried over beef stew?

Miraculix
09-16-2010, 02:15 AM
I've shed tears of laughter over stew. Stewart Lee.

Pizdzius
09-16-2010, 03:45 AM
Maybe that's how you wear a beret.

ArcticWolf
09-16-2010, 04:59 AM
Different search engines use different matching and parsing algorithms. It's an amazing subject, really complex and diverse, and at the time beyond my knowledge. But in short, bing doesn't "read" the search input the same way google caffeine does, so it understands it differently.

Torg_Snowflake
09-16-2010, 07:16 AM
Different search engines use different matching and parsing algorithms. It's an amazing subject, really complex and diverse, and at the time beyond my knowledge. But in short, bing doesn't "read" the search input the same way google caffeine does, so it understands it differently.

I understand, I admire the complexity of the subject. But there is no really discussing the facts.

I didn't use fancy search strategies or made it easier for any. I copied and pasted a text I wanted the source off. A search engine should be able to find it.

Miraculix
09-16-2010, 10:50 AM
I understand, I admire the complexity of the subject. But there is no really discussing the facts.

I didn't use fancy search strategies or made it easier for any. I copied and pasted a text I wanted the source off. A search engine should be able to find it.


I think his point is that google has years of experience and R&D behind their search engine in order to perfect their information retrieval techniques, and that MS is barely a year into that market.

Still, it's quite a stupid move to go against fucking google's search engine in the first place. You'd have to start at least close to their performance in order to catch up if you ever plan on overtaking them by so much that you can actually de-throne them from being King of the fucking internet. This just ain't gonna happen. If someone had the resources to do it, it was indeed Microsoft, but even they seem to have failed at that.

Torg_Snowflake
09-16-2010, 10:54 AM
Mira's got a solid point there

That plus the fact that bing is asking people to use a different way of search.

Let's face it. We are all lazy, otherwise we would all be using free operating systems.

The same reason that keeps us most using windows is the one that will keep us from using bing... ironic isn't it?

ArcticWolf
09-16-2010, 03:17 PM
I think his point is that google has years of experience and R&D behind their search engine in order to perfect their information retrieval techniques, and that MS is barely a year into that market.

Indeed. Google's secret is not PageRank (which is very similar to previous attempts to rate sites by a kind of social relevance), it's the immense architecture that backs up their search engine. The query parser that performs the analysis over your input was highly concurrent and capable of performing many different search paths (exact string match, word ranking, similar words in context scan, related searches). And the fucker seems to learn from you!

Then you have the Crawlerbot. A good crawler does more than just retrieve and tag webpages, it should try to guess the context, rank it according the references from other sources, and save all that information in a way that is easy and fast to retrieve.

I'm sure they also have another data analysis software (in fact, many of them) that builds semantic trees and votes to have an MRU cache of the most recent searches, trees and filters.

They got BigTable, they created MapReduce, and they run on hardware distributed all over the world.

In short, I think the entire Google Search is so complex that it will take years of R&D to create a viable replacement. After all, they're obsessed with data analysis, and they have tons of it at their disposal.

Still, it's quite a stupid move to go against fucking google's search engine in the first place. You'd have to start at least close to their performance in order to catch up if you ever plan on overtaking them by so much that you can actually de-throne them from being King of the fucking internet. This just ain't gonna happen. If someone had the resources to do it, it was indeed Microsoft, but even they seem to have failed at that.

Oracle does, though they're not interested in the search market. Microsoft isn't interested in search engines, they just want some data to make targeted advertisements (Google wants the same, but Search is they flag product so they want to be the best at it).

e30G
09-18-2010, 05:25 AM
Actually, if there is a threat to Google, that would be Facebook. We already see more traffic coming into Facebook than Google's search page in many countries. Sure Google will probably be better at searching the web, but traffic is what drives money into these companies.

Miraculix
09-18-2010, 09:05 AM
Actually, if there is a threat to Google, that would be Facebook. We already see more traffic coming into Facebook than Google's search page in many countries. Sure Google will probably be better at searching the web, but traffic is what drives money into these companies.

Only a matter of time before Google buys FB and dominates the internet completely :p

Anpu
09-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Only a matter of time before Google buys FB and dominates the internet completely :p

afaik, they should release soon(tm?) their new "tool": Google Me, "killer" of fB.

Inkster
09-27-2010, 09:16 AM
How do I know if I'm a lesbian?

Trust me Piz, you are definitely not a lesbian xD

EDIT:

afaik, they should release soon(tm?) their new "tool": Google Me, "killer" of fB.

Googles social network is already in place, its called buzz, but its in its very early stages atm

KKharzov
09-27-2010, 09:37 AM
Only a matter of time before Google buys FB and dominates the internet completely :p
Because they already dominate most of the internet, they have the personal data of many users of their services. The average idiot uses a single password and email for everything. People at Google could use those passwords to break into accounts of other services.

So in a way, they probably already do have access to most Facebook accounts.

Miraculix
09-27-2010, 10:09 AM
Because they already dominate most of the internet, they have the personal data of many users of their services. The average idiot uses a single password and email for everything. People at Google could use those passwords to break into accounts of other services.

So in a way, they probably already do have access to most Facebook accounts.


http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_reuse.png

ArcticWolf
09-27-2010, 02:59 PM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_reuse.png

Ok, I was going to post exactly that.