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Syd_Vicious
10-11-2010, 02:52 AM
Heya folks,

Doing something I don't normally do and am asking for some help. I am trying to finish up one my degrees and one of the requirements is to produce something called an I-Search paper. I am used to doing research papers, but this one actually requires that I talk to people :eek24: I figure though that my topic will be up the ally of quite a few people on this forum so I would like to pose it to you now with some follow up questions to gain perspective:

Topic: Should I continue to use Linux

Question 1: What is your primary operating system?
Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?
Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?
Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?

For question number 8 it is along the lines of:
1. Closed source, but freedom to choose hardware
2. Closed source and hardware model (like Apple)
3. Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)
4. Open source and closed hardware model (think Meego that is open source, but development is for Netbooks and Nokia phones - implementation can be changed by 3rd parties, but it still isn't the exact same model as #3)

If you can think of anything else for number 8 I might of left off go a head and throw it in, this is supposed to be qualitative and not quantitative. I need as many responses as I can get and you can go into detail if ya want, feel free to expound on your own perspective. Thanks RO community! :drinks:

Nekoko
10-11-2010, 05:21 AM
1. Windows.
2. Chatting, Video editing and Gaming, I also use some calender software etc cause I suck at rememebering stuff.
3. Windows.
4. Windows. (OpenOffice)
5. Windows. (Gimp)
6. Windows. (MinGW)
7. I don't so N/A.
8. Mixture of everything with cross platform applications that run well on the majority of OSes.

Explaining no 8 I believe in freedom to choose hardware and freedom to choose software. People should be free to choose whatever they like, the thing I hate is vendor lock in, in any form and I hope it is erroded over the years with Linux getting a larger foot hold than Mac and Windows (both of which can be very bad for rights though Mac seems worse lately with the DRM they have and MS seems to be getting a little better. Probably because they realised they can't stop the shift of consumers to whatever OS they please, not cause they're nice ;p).

Znurre
10-11-2010, 05:52 AM
Question 1: What is your primary operating system?Linux (ArchLinux)
Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?Gaming, developing (web and standalone), watching anime
Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?Linux (ArchLinux)
Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?Windows (Windows 7)
Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?Linux (ArchLinux)
Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?Linux at home (ArchLinux), Windows at work (Windows 7)
Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?Linux (openSUSE)
Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)

Syd_Vicious
10-11-2010, 07:22 AM
Znurre, since the forum is not allowing me to send you a karma point then you can have this:

"Expect everything, and anything seems nothing. Expect nothing, and anything seems everything." - Samuel Hazo

Thanks for the reply.

Pizdzius
10-11-2010, 07:35 AM
Well crap I don't have Linux so probably my answers will suck for you :D

Question 1: Windows XP, cause I was raised from child with only Windows in the house, force of habit/being used to it.
Question 2: Graphic work, gaming.
Question 3: Windows XP - but I play only old games, I hate new ones so I don't require those fancy Windows 7 :P
Question 4: Windows XP - Open Office
Question 5: Windows XP - CS5, Macromedia, mostly
Question 6: I do not develop programs. ;D
Question 7: I don't think I have a need for that?
Question 8: Probably OS with option 3, but I'm a dinosaur and won't be able to adapt ;P

ice_zero_cool
10-11-2010, 09:15 AM
1. What is your primary operating system?
Windows Vista, Windows XP

2. What is the primary use of your computer?
Gaming, Working

3. What operating system do you using for gaming?
Windows Vista, Windows XP

4. What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
Windows Vista

5. What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
Windows Vista

6. What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Windows Vista

7. What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Do I have something like this? :D

8. What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?
Nekoko said this one pretty well IMO: "Mixture of everything with cross platform applications that run well on the majority of OSes."

Kianoni
10-11-2010, 11:15 AM
Question 1: What is your primary operating system?

Linux - Kubuntu 10.04

Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?

Software development (B2B)

Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?

Windows at the moment. I might prefer Linux but at the moment the lack of support for peripherals (X52Pro,TrackIR5 etc..) and certain games holds back it's potential as a gaming platform.

Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?

Linux

Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?

Linux (Photoshop on Wine)

Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?

Linux

Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?

Linux (Debian)

Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?

3. Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)

Miraculix
10-11-2010, 11:34 AM
1: Linux (Ubuntu).
2: Software development, music production, gaming.
3: Windows & Linux.
4: Linux.
5: I don't really do graphics much, just the occasional GIMP (so, Linux).
6: Linux.
7: Linux.
8: Free software.

Awrath
10-11-2010, 11:54 AM
Question 1: What is your primary operating system?
Linux (Debian Sid)

Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?
Developing (web), gaming, work, home.

Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?
Linux (Though lately I have been using windows for RO since directx performs better with my onboard graphics).

Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
Linux

Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
Linux

Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Linux

Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Linux (Debian Lenny)

Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?
Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)


Good luck on your paper!

NotScias
10-11-2010, 12:22 PM
Question 1: Linux (Archlinux x64)
Question 2: Work (school), chat, games, internet, server
Question 3: Linux
Question 4: Linux
Question 5: Windows 7 (only for Photoshop)
Question 6: Linux
Question 7: Linux
Question 8: 3. Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)

DkySven
10-11-2010, 03:10 PM
Question 1 to 6: Linux(Arch Linux)

Question 2: Doing stuff for school and gaming.

Question 7: Linux(Ubuntu) (my brother's choice)

Question 8: Either option 3 or option 4.

Syd_Vicious
10-11-2010, 03:57 PM
Ok so in the last 24 hours I gave out 1 karma point and apparently the forum is saying I have to wait even longer before giving anyone another. So similar to Znurre here are some nuggets for those who had not received one:

Piz:

To accomplish great things, you must not only act but also dream, not only dream but also believe. - Anatole France


Ice:

We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don't like? - Jean Cocteau

Kia:

This is as true in everyday life as it is in battle: we are given one life and the decision is ours whether to wait for circumstances to make up our mind, or whether to act and, in acting, to live. - Omar Bradley

Mira:

To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and whatever you hit, call it the target. - Ashleigh Brilliant

Awrath:

If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
As Dame Fortune did intend,
Murphy would be there to tell me
The pot's at the other end. - Bert Whitney

Scias:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. - George Bernard Shaw

Dky:

If you cannot convince them, confuse them. - Harry S Truman

Syd_Vicious
10-11-2010, 04:23 PM
Also this topic for everyone of every OS, don't feel left out just because you don't use Linux. Post about whatever you do use. The premise of my I Search paper is to not only take into account sheer performance numbers, but also differing opinions about what people like in regards to their Operating System.

I already have ordered a laptop that will run Win 7, Mac OS X Snow Leopard and a couple of different Linux distros that I will throw at it. So performance reviews for hardware/OS interaction are unnecessary. I need the human factor behind it for what people are actually doing with their OS, compare it to my intent and needs, then make a decision for myself.

Nekoko
10-11-2010, 05:18 PM
If you cannot convince them, confuse them. - Harry S Truman

Cough hunter cough *runs and hides* xD

mr_scsi
10-11-2010, 06:04 PM
Question 1: What is your primary operating system?
LInux 2 desktops, 1 Linux laptop, 1 Linux netbook, 1 Linux dvr, 3 droid phones.
so ima go with linux.

Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?
Desktops are generic use desktops, also gamers, laptop and netbook travel to school and back each day with the kids. The dvr is a media center specific distro. The phones...well..they are phones.

Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?
LInux, If its a windows only game, I simply don't play it.

Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
I am a *nix admin so I have both a windows and a linux desktop. I use them equally for all purposes, but prefer linux.

Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
On the rare occasion I need to anti-redeye a photo, Linux.

Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Depends on the target environment, I will tend to use the same os.

Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Linux

Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?
I genuinely believe the long term future resides in #3

Syd_Vicious
10-11-2010, 09:25 PM
Cough hunter cough *runs and hides* xD

That is overly game related Neko xD, I was meaning it more in the terms of being a forum moderator. Example:

User1: Bitch bitch gripe complain bitch bitch gripe complain
Moderator: Logical answer and conclusion drawn from facts
User2: Troll troll goblin ogre Troll troll
User 1: Bitch bitch gripe complain!
Moderator: Thread has now been closed
User1 is now confused as to why thread was closed

But I digress, back to the original intent here is your nugget Mr_SCSI:

Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is that little voice at the end of the day that says: "I'll try again tomorrow." - Anne Hunninghake

VandaMan
10-11-2010, 10:44 PM
wat is computer? i want a nugget too :3

Raideniza
10-12-2010, 12:27 PM
Linux (ArchLinux)
Gaming, developing (web and standalone), watching anime
Linux (ArchLinux)
Windows (Windows 7)
Linux (ArchLinux)
Linux at home (ArchLinux), Windows at work (Windows 7)
Linux (openSUSE)
Open source and freedom to choose hardware (like Linux)

why did you copy my replies?

KKharzov
10-12-2010, 01:45 PM
Topic: Should I continue to use Linux

Question 1: What is your primary operating system?
Windows XP, for 8 wonderful years now.
Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?
Gaming System.
Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?
Windows.
Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
Windows. (For sheer amount of programs and compatibility.) Windows is used by the masses therefore it's only logical, otherwise if you're trying to stand out and be the Linux rebel you're just stupid.
Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
Windows. Once again, more support for professional programs like AutoDesk. (I mainly use GIMP for general graphic editing.)
Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Believe it has little difference, but Windows. General C++ programming.
Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Most people use Windows for public and office work, internet cafe's use Windows, etc. Same applies to servers, for simple compatibility and minimal problems most people use Windows.
Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?
Linux - Other. Linux still isn't perfect, however Microsoft has reached it's peak in OS competition, in recent years people will be flocking to opensource systems like Linux. Apple will be what it always has been, colorful overpriced shit toys for rich kids. The only thing Windows still has is gaming, however that is a matter of choice of developers. When developers develop games for Linux, gamers will turn over to Linux. The problem is that now few people give a crap about that.

10hornylesbians.

EDIT: Also my general opinion is that people using Linux tend to look at themselves as the "elites" of computer related work. Bragging rights or whatever, the fact is that a majority of users are just attention hogs that like to scream LOOK AT ME I'M DIFFERENT. That has nothing to do with an opensource system taking over in the next few decades. That's just a common fact about current users. I get this opinion based upon working with around 30 people and talking to them about the endless Windows Linux debate.

Windows. Just do it.

[/prepares to be flamed by ignorant Linux hotdogs]

Syd_Vicious
10-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Ok I will just keep these open and public since I have been doing it that way for a couple posts:

Raideniza
"Contrariwise," continued Tweedledee, "If it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." - Lewis Carroll

KKharzov
"We find comfort among those who agree with us; growth among those who don't." Frank A. Clark

Also if someone does want to flame KKharzov please do it over pm per forum rules. If you would want to have an honest debate over the points of:

1. Windows is for the masses so using a Linux system is not the best choice [rephrased from answer 4]
2. Windows has minimal problems and maximum compatibility [from answer 7]
3. Apple systems are over priced items for the rich [rephrased from answer 8]
4. Few people care about developing games for Linux [from answer 8]

I would encourage it because I would like to see the multiple points of why someone chose a specific operating system. The point of why should I continue to use Linux is the topic of my paper, so it fits with the OP. If you are going to debate please do it with some tact xD

mr_scsi
10-12-2010, 08:39 PM
1. Windows is for the masses so using a Linux system is not the best choice [rephrased from answer 4]


Windows has been marketed to the masses. Windows was first to the masses. Windows has a strangle hold on the masses. They, M$, have done such a superb marketing snow job backed up by jack booted thug tactics on the system builders for years that they have become the defacto standard. Everything they have done to date is about one thing and one thing only, removing choice.

Choosing linux means an education in what is really going on with your computer. Many people don't even understand what the "OS" is much less where to draw the line between the os and an application. Its far too easy to buy the box off the shelf, plug it in, and start surfing the pr0n.

Where is the choice in that? Until the monopoly is broken and a side by side option is there on that shelf, you can't even talk about a choice.

My favourite pre linux convert question- "can I run my windows on that?"


2. Windows has minimal problems and maximum compatibility [from answer 7]


Talk to anyone that has their windows computer plugged into the internet for more than 30 seconds. They now have a virus/trojan/spy/scare ware on their system. How is that minimal problem? I will agree that windows is maximum compatible with ALL the known viruses. Don't get me wrong, linux viruses are just a matter of time. When there is choice, and money to be gained by doing it, they will appear.


3. Apple systems are over priced items for the rich [rephrased from answer 8]


I'll conceded this point, but I'm sure there's a fanboi out there somewhere that has a few points for discussion.

Apple just has a slicker marketing department than M$. Steve Jobs' unrelenting drive for perfection keeps the mac o' philes hooked and perfection is expensive, whether its perceived or real.


4. Few people care about developing games for Linux [from answer 8]


This, unfortunately is the case for now. I think there are many developers of games (and other software) that would like to code for linux. The problem for now is $$. No matter what platform, at the end of the day, programmers have to eat. Linux is based on an opensource model and to many that means free (to them), but nothing is free.

Developers need a client base that are willing to part with money. For some that's a large software company that parts with their money in the form of a paycheck, and for a lucky few, that means a client base that is willing to pay them directly for their work. Neither of those use the word free.

I think that once the user base for linux increases, the willingness to pay for good software will too. This is good on more than one front since OSS will always be a part of the linux culture (sorry M$ you've already lost that battle) this promotes competition. Paid software will have to compete alongside the free stuff and hopefully the best of all will bubble to the top.



wth, did I seriously just spew all that???

KKharzov
10-13-2010, 07:11 AM
1. Windows is for the masses so using a Linux system is not the best choice [rephrased from answer 4]
Yes. Since Windows became the first mainstream OS it's only logical that it is in the position it is now. However as time will tell us Microsoft products over time have become less and less innovative. Why do people continue to use Windows? Because the fact is that in most cases (Especially in places [Less Economically Developed Countries] where people have only begun to use computer technology) Windows is shoved down the throats of computer users. Schools use Windows, Offices use Windows, Public Service computers use Windows, and the list goes on. When someone see's a foreign OS it puts them in a a very uncomfortable condition. Hence why most Linux users are people that know their way around a computer.
2. Windows has minimal problems and maximum compatibility [from answer 7]
I'm not sure about problems. There still exists the massive problem of .exe files and leaving Windows systems open to virus attacks. However you need to realize people that make Anti-Virus software make millions from this. Compatibility yes, there is a sheer amount of programs used for educational purposes, work purposes, and in order to have the easiest method of working with other people it's generally recommended to be working with the same OS.
3. Apple systems are over priced items for the rich [rephrased from answer 8]
For sure. Apple claims their products are "revolutionary" when in reality for the same price you buy an Apple product you could buy an equal product of 3x better performance. This has been proven over and over, yet why do people continue to buy Apple products? Because they have created their own niche market, and have their own target consumers. Mainly people that like to buy fancy things and have no knowledge whatsoever about what they are buying. They look pretty, but they are crap. Apple tries to hard to be different, but they just fail at it so hard. (e.g. lulzy mouses with a single click button)
4. Few people care about developing games for Linux [from answer 8]
That isn't true imo, what I mean is that developers would like to develop games, but there is no market for them to profit from it, after all $$$$ = profit. There are many people who care about such a thing. The problem is that Linux still isn't as mainstream of a product, apart from that there are many separate builds of Linux. If you would allow for the comparison, Windows is like the Catholic Church, a single dominating product, while Linux is like the Protestant Church. Free, yet split into thousands of tiny churches (builds). Even if a big company like EA for example started to make all their games for Linux and Windows, what would the impact be? Minimal. When Linux falls into the mainstream on an equal level with Windows, then people will begin to make software for it, but more importantly there will be a market to buy those products.

Also if you're looking for a diehard Apple fanboy go find Hidra. I'm sure he/she/it will give you a proper discussion on how wondrous Apple products are.

Znurre
10-13-2010, 09:14 AM
That isn't true imo, what I mean is that developers would like to develop games, but there is no market for them to profit from it, after all $$$$ = profit. There are many people who care about such a thing. The problem is that Linux still isn't as mainstream of a product, apart from that there are many separate builds of Linux. If you would allow for the comparison, Windows is like the Catholic Church, a single dominating product, while Linux is like the Protestant Church. Free, yet split into thousands of tiny churches (builds). Even if a big company like EA for example started to make all their games for Linux and Windows, what would the impact be? Minimal. When Linux falls into the mainstream on an equal level with Windows, then people will begin to make software for it, but more importantly there will be a market to buy those products..However, what many people don't take into consideration is that you get get a lot for free by using cross platform libraries.
If you decide to go with OpenGL and OpenAL, most barries have been overcome already, and then building on another platform is a pice of cake.

One of the good things with Linux being a small market, is that advertising is easy.
Make a Linux version of your game and you get free advertising on most Linux news aggregation sites - because it's a rare occurrence.

Personally, I think graphics engines like Unigine is the way to go.
It will allow people to create AAA games and easily port them to any platform, an easy way to earn some profit without any expenses, and this might boost Linux gaming too.

Kianoni
10-13-2010, 09:34 AM
I'll reanswer this one..
Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?

Linux because:
- faster build times (means a lot in bigger projects with more small files, etx3 beats fat/ntfs here by several minutes) which means faster round trips
- faster searches, same reason as above
- developing on same architecture as the target platform (linux servers)
- and I love the power of bash

Gytha_Ogg
10-13-2010, 04:17 PM
Answers inline. Some of my answers differ depending on whether we're talking at home or at work, so I marked them. Use whichever you need:


Question 1: What is your primary operating system?
Home: Linux (Ubuntu)
Work: Windows 7
Question 2: What is the primary use of your computer?
Home: Communication: Email, facebook, IM, etc. (also gaming, sw dev)
Work: Software dev
Question 3: What operating system do you using for gaming?
Linux (occasionally Windows, if I'm booted into it anway)
Question 4: What operating system do you use for office work (typing documents, spreadsheets, etc..)?
Home: Linux
Work: Windows
Mostly OpenOffice, so OS independent, but some MS Word/Excel at work.
Question 5: What operating system do you use to manipulate computer graphics?
Don't do all that much of that, but Home:Linux Work:Windows
Gimp on both, so OS independent.
Question 6: What operating system do you use to develop programs?
Home: Linux
Work: Windows, Mac OS X
Question 7: What operating system do you use or use via 3rd party for a webserver?
Linux (my hosting provider uses Debian)
Question 8: What operating system implementation model do you perceive to be the future of computing?
Variety is the spice of life. (In other words, here comes a big ol' pile of wishy-washy:)
A lot of people, maybe a majority, will like the safety and convenience of an iOS-style walled garden, and devices that are more like appliances than general-purpose computers. Where these include phones, the carriers will want to have their say in what's allowed as well.
I do think there are enough people who will need more than what the appliances will deliver, and those who don't want to get permission to do what they want with the hardware they buy.
In short, I don't think any of these models will win out (completely) in the near future.

Syd_Vicious
10-16-2010, 07:47 PM
Thanks for your responses so far. Here is your nugget Gytha:

I advise you to go on living solely to enrage those who are paying your annuities. It is the only pleasure I have left. - Voltaire

If you know of someone else who has a conflicting opinion and has not posted, please encourage them to do so.

So far it looks as though we are missing some talking points from the Mac community.

Syd_Vicious
11-03-2010, 05:56 AM
23 pages turned in and a couple compliments from my English teacher. Thanks for your help guys.

Nekoko
11-03-2010, 02:14 PM
Talk to anyone that has their windows computer plugged into the internet for more than 30 seconds. They now have a virus/trojan/spy/scare ware on their system. How is that minimal problem? I will agree that windows is maximum compatible with ALL the known viruses. Don't get me wrong, linux viruses are just a matter of time. When there is choice, and money to be gained by doing it, they will appear.

Also this is a tired and old fact, and only applies to Windows XP SP0 which as far as I know doesn't exist anymore. Any version of XP SP2 and above is safe to plug strait into the net, as are vista and windows 7.

...

Pretty much agree with you and the wishy washy xD More choices for everyone the better. I do like to pick on OSes even my own though ;p

23 pages turned in and a couple compliments from my English teacher. Thanks for your help guys.

Will you let us know the result ;p ? and good luck ^^

Syd_Vicious
11-04-2010, 04:16 AM
Also this is a tired and old fact, and only applies to Windows XP SP0 which as far as I know doesn't exist anymore. Any version of XP SP2 and above is safe to plug strait into the net, as are vista and windows 7.
...
Will you let us know the result ;p ? and good luck ^^

First bit about Win Xp isn't exactly true, just less likely than the original release to get hit. When I used to work in Kentucky on a 5,000 system intranet even XP SP3 would get hit as soon as plugged in due to damn bot net crap on systems retarded admins wouldn't patch regularly and keep their antivirus up to date. This only stopped when we installed advanced intrusion detection systems between organizational routers and then had the systems hardware mac black listed from the router ACL, for systems with out of date antivirus.

So I would say it is situational, a regular home user behind an ISP firewall will have different results. It is all about what variables are present and how much attack surface your organization/operating system has that will effect your level of security. Hell look at the black hat contests that have users that have created fuzzy logic vulnerability detection programs and see that every operating system is vulnerable without some form of protection.

I compare it to condoms, some people like poly-urethane and some like latex. Since more people use latex then poly-urethane of course you hear of more problems with latex condoms.

Second bit, yep I will let you guys know. For the end result of my paper I essentially said I will stick with Linux for almost everyday to day function, but use Windows in order to play games.

If you check Phoronix's May shootout between Win 7, Ubuntu 10.04, and Mac 10.6.3 (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=1) - you see that Mac's performance really sucks right now xD Since they ran Ubuntu without a real time/low latency kernel I am pretty sure the results of Arch or Fedora running against Win 7 would have been damn close. I am also hoping that Gallium hurries its pace and doesn't solely focus on Radeon and that NVIDIA helps them out so it gets out of the nouveau realm (or at least enhances it greatly).

Znurre
11-04-2010, 06:43 AM
I am pretty sure the results of Arch or Fedora running against Win 7 would have been damn close. Actually better: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/09/linux-out-performs-windows-in-opengl.html :)
Congratulations btw!

NotScias
11-04-2010, 12:40 PM
Actually better: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/09/linux-out-performs-windows-in-opengl.html :)
Congratulations btw!

No offense, but I don't think that this benchmark shows any good thing at all.
No indication about if the compositing is enabled/disabled, and also I've read somewhere that since Windows Vista, OpenGL on Windows is wrapped thru DirectX, which screws its performance a lot (it was intended from Micro$oft ofc, to make OpenGL the most deprecated possible regarding D3D...)

No I'm not a Windows fanboy

Znurre
11-04-2010, 03:36 PM
No offense, but I don't think that this benchmark shows any good thing at all.
No indication about if the compositing is enabled/disabled, and also I've read somewhere that since Windows Vista, OpenGL on Windows is wrapped thru DirectX, which screws its performance a lot (it was intended from Micro$oft ofc, to make OpenGL the most deprecated possible regarding D3D...)

No I'm not a Windows fanboy
Jeff, not many. That was a well written breakdown. The only question is: WereAero and Compiz disabled during the test?
@FEWT Both where disabled yes. Chakra is wonderful... It is going to mature into a top distro IMO
There's your answer.

And as for your second point: http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_9/

NotScias
11-05-2010, 03:55 AM
There's your answer.

And as for your second point: http://www.opengl.org/pipeline/article/vol003_9/

Oh Okay, I did not know that the ICD was directly bundled in GPU manufacturers' drivers.

Never mind then

And Linux Powaa :theking:

Syd_Vicious
11-16-2010, 12:08 AM
200 out of 200 possible according to the grade sheet for those who were interested xD

mr_scsi
11-16-2010, 03:20 PM
200 out of 200 possible according to the grade sheet for those who were interested xD

Righton, Congrats man. Glad we were able to help.