Ignis 2nd portal opening

[terekon]

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ab3440bfdc.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Pics of Ignis gem holders at second portal opening of the evening.

Was quite alot of effort to invade 4 times in one night to get them all.

Anyway good fights from all the alsius and syrtis who resisted. thx for making it fun.

[Gabburtjuh]

Glad you picced it, it wasn't like there were more as 20 syrtis+alsius on to see it

[Pnarpa]

Congratulations guys! :D

[Llayne]

Well, it was night after all. Honestly we just wait until Dutch logs off then we make the call to invade.


http://i.imgur.com/hj32r.jpg

[ieti]

There is no chance to have alot players online since they do it in 6am european time. Whole invasion system gets more and more time zone dependent. Everyone uses that.

Anyway grats guys. Use the bonus and be more active in WZ.

[Castingbeast]

There is no chance to have alot players online since they do it in 6am european time. Whole invasion system gets more and more time zone dependent. Everyone uses that.

Anyway grats guys. Use the bonus and be more active in WZ.

Or even earlier lol, in fact Ive never been able to witness even one of their invasions, cuz I was always sleeping.
Id be really REALLY happy seeing em to try in a time when Im online too xD

[lunedor]

congratulations :clapclap:

It is nice that you have chosen -xp for syrtis when all these people are trying to reach lvl 60, thanks once more :D

[ieti]

You know that do not affect boosters.

But yes TY for that gift of yours. We will gladly return the favor when we can. Do not forget goats too. xD

[Pimousse]

Gratz Ignis, and Thx !

+RLM bonus on Killing ennemies is awesome :D

[blood-raven]

you voted -xp for syrtis, gratz morons and invade when there is someone to resist <<

[isgandarli]

you voted -xp for syrtis, gratz morons and invade when there is someone to resist <<

blood come on, smile to us. -xp fits you so nicely xD

[NotScias]

Middle of the night... no defenders... flawed system... clap clap... nuff' said.

[Monthser]

you voted -xp for syrtis, gratz morons and invade when there is someone to resist <<

+100

Like so many others I have never witnessed any invasion of Ignis. Good for you to invade us when we sleep! Bravo! :clapping5365: And thx for the -xp. We hope to return you the favor asap.:devil:

[Mattdoesrock]

Middle of the night... no defenders... flawed system... clap clap... nuff' said.

10 chars..

[VandaMan]

Bitching about "u onli infade @ nite!!!1lol" is simply ridiculous. I used to feel for you guys a little bit, it is a fact that Ignis invasions typically start around 8-10p.m. in US time zones, meaning almost all of Europe is asleep. However, once Syrtis decided they wanted to open the portal too, nearly all of their invasions take place at like 1-3a.m. in these time zones (some ungodly early hour in europe). Alsius, well they can't be arsed to bother invading. So really no one has any place to complain about the invasion habits of others anymore, because the fact is all realms that invade, do so at night.

[ieti]

Invasions simply can not take place at normal hours. Design flaw.

[_Kharbon_]

I don't think it's bad to have night invasions, or that either realm is op now and then...
I have a issue with the dragon wishes themselves.

I don't understand the meaning of xp malus for another realm. +xp is ok, same is gold, but the maluses (and partly draconic gem) are not very motivational for either side.

I hope NGD will implement the new wishes soon.

[Comp]

Invasions simply can not take place at normal hours. Design flaw.

I think the problem is, invasions were designed with RA in mind, not horus. On horus we have such a small population that time-zone affects us considerably. Ignis invades when they have the most active players on, and that's about it. It does suck that it occurs when everyone else sleeps and NGD has a tough job to be able to balance that. Only until recently have we seen NGD made a distinction between RA and Horus (the daily quests for warcoins) so perhaps they are moving in the right direction.

[Raoh]

Invasions simply can not take place at normal hours. Design flaw.

War is not kind.

War does not wait for you to be ready.

War is not considerate or fair.

War happens when it wants to happen.

Ieti -- Works as designed for me.

[Silent_Shadow]

War happens when it wants to happen.
More or less the truth. Usually it's whenever the most active players are on, be it spontaneous or planned.

Congrats Ignis on opening the portal twice! It was a ton of fun fighting with you all, even though we lost technically. xD I'm actually kinda happy that you gave us -xp, maybe more people with war instead of grind now. I certainly will.

To all those who are complaining about the time and everything, it's a game. If you don't like it then don't play.

[Meatius]

Me and Nyomi made babies inside Syrtis last night. Thanx for your hospitality Greens.... Making love on Grass is much better then on sand (as you can see that would lead to some problems). Invasion was very fun. Ty to the few who understand that the time when we invade is when we have our spontaneous invasion team on. Also this is the 3rd or 4th night in a row weve invaded. Dont start complaining now just cuz we opened the portal.

[Monthser]

I think the problem is, invasions were designed with RA in mind, not horus. On horus we have such a small population that time-zone affects us considerably. Ignis invades when they have the most active players on, and that's about it. It does suck that it occurs when everyone else sleeps and NGD has a tough job to be able to balance that. Only until recently have we seen NGD made a distinction between RA and Horus (the daily quests for warcoins) so perhaps they are moving in the right direction.

+1
Your comment is correct... except that I doubt NGD is going to do something about this.

[Nyomi]

I didnt know that all syrtis were european, all ignis from usa or canada, and what about goats?? chinesses?? time zone is not an excuse. stop being crying babies, we have defend our realm few ignis against a zerg of syrtis, being underpopulated and living in the sand (no trees to hide or run around) made us good players ;)

[Raoh]

Me and Nyomi made babies inside Syrtis last night. Thanx for your hospitality Greens.... Making love on Grass is much better then on sand (as you can see that would lead to some problems).

Spontaneity is the spice of life, MW. Its just as good as sitting down to a huge 18oz porterhouse, and a tasty beverage. :)

To all those who are complaining about the time and everything, it's a game. If you don't like it then don't play.

Or just change the time you play the game. If your on when others who are warbound are on, your a little more likely to defend against an attack that you would otherwise never experience, or even see coming right at you either. You cant really fault a system for when you choose to or not to play a game.

[Creeping_Death]

Yeah I don't get the bitter little comments about "you guys invaded when we didn't have enough people on"...

That mentality is lost on me - it is particularly ironic coming from Syrtians whose invasions a couple months ago, as I understand it, took place at like 3AM on a Sunday morning - which clearly indicates to me that the intent was to do it when enemy realms would be at their emptiest. Hello kettle, my name is pot. :/

It really doesn't matter - Alsius is pretty empty no matter what time of day you log on. :)

Just give me a good fight, and I'll do my best - and I'll never stop trying to beat you. Occasionally I will even succeed.


-Shots (Alsius Marks - 41)

[_Enio_]

.. made us good players ;)

Ahh explains that evryone get instantly a good player at 6am xD

[Raoh]

we have defend our realm few ignis against a zerg of syrtis, being underpopulated and living in the sand (no trees to hide or run around) made us good players ;)

Nyomi, Even when they have trees to run around or hide behind, they still run away from you. Even when your much lower level than they are.

http://img832.imageshack.us/i/248755578.jpg/

I killed him anyway.

:)

[Anyriand]

being underpopulated and living in the sand (no trees to hide or run around) made us good players ;)

...Just...lol... :facepalm3:

Anyways,
Can't blame ignis for invading at that time of the night, every realm invades when there is no one online.
Invasions clearly weren't designed for Horus and to address the population/time-zone differences there, which will always exist, and that's not Ignis or Syrtis or Alsius fault, but clearly NGD's.

[Znurre]

I think the problem is, invasions were designed with RA in mind, not horus. On horus we have such a small population that time-zone affects us considerably. Ignis invades when they have the most active players on, and that's about it. It does suck that it occurs when everyone else sleeps and NGD has a tough job to be able to balance that. Only until recently have we seen NGD made a distinction between RA and Horus (the daily quests for warcoins) so perhaps they are moving in the right direction.Tell me about one invasion that happened during normal Argentinian hours on Ra.
Usually they take place around 8.00 in my mornings, that would be 4 in the night in Argentina.
Invasions are flawed, as ieti said. No matter the server.

[Raoh]

Syrtis (on Horus) was swept pretty quickly last night, and with only slight resistence. So next time dont make it so easy.

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

[sobis]

Tell me about one invasion that happened during normal Argentinian hours on Ra.
Usually they take place around 8.00 in my mornings, that would be 4 in the night in Argentina.
Invasions are flawed, as ieti said. No matter the server.
+1
Ignis tried to invade syrtis yestarday at 00h hours Argentina and well....

Syrtis wall in danger (00:55hs) (http://img844.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2011031500551.jpg/)
Syrtis take back Alga(00:56hs) (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/screenshot2011031500564.jpg/)u_ú.

As I said, we tried but with this system....:tsk_tsk:

[Jippy]

"Adapt and evolve to deal with it"

What if u don't give a crap? - Invasions are BORING, there boring to defend and boring to do - there needs to be better wishes before 90% of the vets will even care about them...

[Znurre]

Syrtis (on Horus) was swept pretty quickly last night, and with only slight resistence. So next time dont make it so easy.

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

Invasions are flawed because of the fact that you need at least twice the numbers of the realm you are invading in order to pull it off.
This can only be the case when the other realm have few players online for whatever reason.

Don't you think an activity in an RvR game, promoting playing when few enemies are online, is flawed?
What you are basically doing during those hours is RvE: you kill guards, break fort gates and ultimately the realm gate before you take the gems back to your portal.
As someone who plays Regnum because of the RvR, I just can't understand how that can be fun, even having been part of the invading force myself a couple of times.

[Raoh]

Znurre,

That question goes back to the "interest" issue, not the fact that its flawed. There is a vested "disinterest" in the RvR conflict itself. Weve seen this prior already in cases where Realm A (on Horus) was attacked, only to find members of that realm not less than 200 away grinding. The interest in the war itself is the flaw.

If NGD posted actual numbers of people that were logged on by their realm at the time an Invasion occurs (in Horus case it was 11pm EST last night) , I would guess the numbers wouldnt be nearly as low as you suggest, or perhaps it is low and the number that is there has no interest in the conflict at all. Thats a character flaw, not a game flaw. People who dont want to war , arent going to war. There are many people who play Regnum who dont desire to actually participate in the warzone itself.

[Carn]

But ignis, now there will be so much less grinders you can kill :(

[King_Of_Angmar]

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

I won't whine about the time invasion happened. Congrats on the successful invasion.

However, do not say that time has nothing to do with it. If it is a time when much of a realm's population is not on then there is little that can be done to 'adapt'. It is not foul play to use those times to one's advantage, every realm does. But time DOES have a part in it, to say otherwise is ignorance.

[ieti]

This thread turned into flame again. As every thread like that before. Congratulations for getting bonus - Ignis really needs it, thumbs down for giving -XP.

You guys invaded 2 times grats good work, but do not think this is so great since you met zero resistance from other realms.

[_Seinvan]

Ignis is so cool you guys :cuac:

Night invasions in general need to not happen. There isn't an easy way to solve the time-zone issue besides wait it out; since I'm sure in time people from many different timezones will be in all 3 realms. Horus will eventually become Ra, but even then night invasions are tricky to stop without upsetting a lot of people.

And ye, -XP is a shitty wish. When will new dragon wishes be available Dx

[Monthser]

Ignis is so cool you guys :cuac:

Night invasions in general need to not happen. There isn't an easy way to solve the time-zone issue besides wait it out; since I'm sure in time people from many different timezones will be in all 3 realms. Horus will eventually become Ra, but even then night invasions are tricky to stop without upsetting a lot of people.

And ye, -XP is a shitty wish. When will new dragon wishes be available Dx

Hmm, Horus will never become Ra if NGD continues with this policy. In fact population is actually shrinking (look at how many top players are quitting). NGD should consider to look at Horus in a different way as Ra. Horus is a server with a small population that will not grow if their players suggestions and complaints -like in this case the invasion system and time-zone unbalance issues- are ignored.

[animalartist]

It was my first day back playing for some time and i enjoyed it throughly!

Thankyou iggies.

[Awrath]

Syrtis (on Horus) was swept pretty quickly last night, and with only slight resistence. So next time dont make it so easy.

As there wasn't many on. I woke up at 5am to get ready for work, and I see that our gates are down. My friends list, consisting of mostly level 50+ players and some level 40+ players that are active in the war zone was near empty. Hence the "slight resistance".

The time a conflict is chosen has nothing to do with whether that conflict is flawed or not.

Then try an invasion in active hours? It's just not possible. As Znurre said, you need greatly outnumber your opponent in order to have a successful invasion during hours when all realms are equally active.

How that conflict is dealt with might be flawed, but the time it happens has zero to do with it.

The time it happens has everything to do with it. I guarantee you an invasion when all realms are active will fail.

Adapt and evolve to deal with it. Dont compain about it.

Adapt to what is unsocial hours for most us? Explain how, shall I sit on my computed till 5AM in the morning every day and wait for an Ignis invasion? No thanks.

On topic:
Congrats to Ignis. For everyone moaning about the time, we do the exact same thing, heck we set alarms to wake up for a planned invasion.

[AnteUp]

you voted -xp for syrtis, gratz morons and invade when there is someone to resist <<

I remember a certain realm making invasions on the new year's eve... Was it Ignis? Oh wait...

As far as I know, the game doesn't have a closing hour nor does it only allow invasions during a specific time of the day. Therefore, deal with it.

[Signatus]

May I remind the participants that even if it is a flawed system, it is flawed for every realm, and thus cannot be used as valid argument against the remarkable cooperative effort that so many people had in order to successfully invade our adversaries no less then 6 times in the last nights.

Playing down the success a realm has achieved on completing a major objective of the game (despite what many of you think, it is the true end game in Regnum) is not a lack of respect for that realm (we already have secured bragging rights) but a major lack of consideration for those, on the invaded realms, that made their best to stop Ignis of achieving their goals.

After saying this I would like to point out some facts:

- The Alsius invasions (gems first portal, 3 days ago) was actually started by Syrtis. In all fairness, it was Syrtis that gave some ideas regarding how it would work on the new system.

- Syrtis was actually able to snatch a gem from Alsius, as it is well known. So in this "flawed system" Ignis and Syrtis had each 3 gems, 3 nights ago.

- 2 nights ago Ignis stirred the waters a bit, "just to see if they come out and play!" and secured the 3 Syrtis forts, we were overrun at Algaros, not once but twice. It was Alsius that secured Algaros while we divided our forces between Herb and Eferias. Those who participated may have witnessed some of the most intense hours of war on this server since the WM expansion (my Syrtis quest was over after 30 minutes). There were some epic battles as Syrtis would gain and loose control over Eferias and Herbred for several times. When we were about to call it quits we snatched a window of opportunity and, thanks to the new system, we were able to get a barb that broke the door, and only supported by a handful of players managed to grab the closest gem to the door and run for it (we didn't have plans, nor manpower, to secure the forts AND fight for more then 1 gem).

What is interesting is that, on this "flawed system", Alsius managed to grab the remaining 2 Syrtis gems and for some minutes there were 3 loose gems in the WZ, 2 of them in Alsius control. We actually thought they wouldn't be able to leave the realm with them because we were being owned at Herb, and Syrtis managed to cap the fort a few seconds after Alsius got out with the gems.

We secured our gem and obviously made plans to get our hands on the others. Alsius denounced their inexperience when they called it a run with both gems, on the same place, across the same bridge. Obviously both Ignis and Syrtis went for it, and after intense battling we got them both. And now notice very carefully, Ignis had all the gems, but 2 of them were at pp2!

We managed to take them both up to pp and that's when the military genius of an Ignean player (Meatwad for the win!) was a deciding factor. Instead of trying to secure both gems at the same time, he gambled on dividing our adversaries attention between 2 points, Ignis splited the gems, one went through Alsius territory, and the other over Syrtis territory. Even though we lost the gem travelling by Syrtis (because we would never have enough ppl to defend them both from Alsius and Syrtis) we did manage to defend the gem being carried through Alsius and thus end up the night with more then we were expecting.

On this flawed system the intensity and drama (as in a surprising turn of events) of what was witnessed is the stuff that makes this game, despite all the frustrations it gives, a truly good game.

- Finally, yesterday night, we went for the win again, this time with more numbers, and yes, with Syrtis in deficit comparing the previous night. Is it Ignean fault that after 2 nights of intense battling on the WZ more players decide to join in as opposed of what happened in Syrtis? It is not. We did have the upper hand, but having it only meant we could secure Algaros without Alsius cooperation. But it is untrue there was no difficulty in it: Eferias had no door by the time when the timer ran out, and all the WZ players had to rush to secure the gem during the first invasion, so in all fairness, nobody was at Eferias when the gem reached the door (I know because I rode from Eferias up to the Syrtis Inner realm to kill a hunter that was spamming caltrops and hinder 5 on the gem carrier). It was far from easy as many of you want to believe.

Now the Alsius invasion was much more challenging, and proof of that is we had to do it twice, on this "flawed system", in order to get both gems out. But let's explore this carefully. Alsius proved once more that their main problem is not in numbers, or skill, but in the ingenuity they have in the WZ.

In the first attempt the Alsius players concentrated at Trelleborg and Imperia, striking at it at full force. Syrtis also tried to gain control of Trelle. However, what the Alsius players realized too late was, that in order for us to secure Trelle and Imperia, we were taking almost all player we had in the WZ. They did find out that Aggersborg was empty, but it was already too late.

The second attempt is even more interesting. We took control of Aggersborg again and started the timer. Some of us went to Imperia because although Alsius had breached it during the previous defence (tore the gate down and killed everyone) it was still in Ignis control! We arrived there, and some Alsius players were trying to kill the guards. Naturally we drove them to the save. However what is interesting to acknowledge is that during the second Alsius invasion nobody tried to get Imperia even though it had no door.

Why am I sharing these invasion experiences with you all, because this way you might understand the following statement:

Quit bitching and play the game.

My best regards.

[terekon]

If you look at the screen shot i posted there is about 30 ignis standing there. And as i recall some were noobs that had obviously come from other realms to see the dragon wish.

From the fighting i saw it wasnt that we greatly outnumbered the other realms. (We did outnumber the others realms specifically syrtis.) BUt the numbers were not putting alsius and syrtis at some great disadvantage that they couldnt have stopped us.

There were several times that alsius and syrtis showed up at trelle, while fighting was happening at imp. Alsius got the doors down on Imp and Trelle, then when we were at our weakest in the fort and castle, simple stopped attacking us and retreated to the gate that has a combined hp of 5k or something because it just falls down.

Maybe try harder and complain less... If you dont want to participate in invasions or defense then dont. I dislike ppl spending all their time grinding when there is war to be done. But we have invaded many times, and have few lvl 60s.

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/u9j3sv3bfefson2akzi_thumb.jpg (http://www.imageurlhost.com/viewer.php?file=u9j3sv3bfefson2akzi.jpg)

[Balint]

-xp for syrtis.. why? The xp malus is the worst wish ever.

For me it's only mean less xp from war. It was few enough I think.
It was really slow to level up and you did it slower. Why?

Gratz ignis it was hard to do but you did it. And gratz who reached lvl60.

[SirHiss]

evolve and adapt guys. Do like me. sleep around 3 hours per day and stay online till 9am then sleep to 12 then log on. simple and effective!:D

gratz ignis

[_Enio_]

evolve and adapt guys.

Cool tip, i will evolve and adapt while i sleep, especially now when you told me to do so :thumb:

[ieti]

/me adapts perfectly while sleeping. Even if you invade 100 times per night it will not change.

[Znurre]

May I remind the participants that even if it is a flawed system, it is flawed for every realm, and thus cannot be used as valid argument against the remarkable cooperative effort that so many people had in order to successfully invade our adversaries no less then 6 times in the last nights.

...I don't really play on Horus that much so I don't take either side in this debate, however I do think invasions are flawed for the reasons I stated.
Not because it causes inbalance, true, but because they (imo) are boring for everyone involved.

[Wield_II]

This thread is going back to the "teh only invate at nite" state.

What about the time's you invade at morning and Ignis has atleast 5 higher levels online, that isnt lame?

Just merely pointing out the hypocrisy.

[Maddie]

Middle of the night... no defenders... flawed system... clap clap... nuff' said.


Says a person from the realm who has zerged and zerged rlms at 3am MY TIME which is gmt -6!


Im just basically saying... "Think BEFORE you put something in writing"

Secondly, flaw system? the system was flawed with the goat fortifications (which yes, should have been goat, not ours. imho) and was immediately fix as soon as we placed the gems. So we had to retake those forts. (Edit. I see what you mean about the door, yes. That should change)

Thirdly, There were people grinding while we were invading. So... Yes there were people online. Some people were actually trying to get forts back. However, some were not participating as a team player.

Fourthly, how could you possibly learn to adapt when you don't even attempt to invade at all.

Finally and on a positive Note, Good job Goats on keeping Ignis out tonight. Great Job!! (No sarcasm at all, Seriously. bc they did keep us out).

[Envy]

This thread is going back to the "teh only invate at nite" state.

What about the time's you invade at morning and Ignis has atleast 5 higher levels online, that isnt lame?

Just merely pointing out the hypocrisy.

I think the point here is the absolute meltdown by Ignis posters as soon as the time of invasion is mentioned. Instead of people just saying, "yes we invaded at 5am GMT (or rather a server downtime), it's the easiest time to do so", we have this nonsense about adapting to it.

If you're going to invade at these hours, that's fine, but don't flip a bitch when it's brought up and suggest it succeeded for any other reason. Congratulations on the portal opening.

[NotScias]

Says a person from the realm who has zerged and zerged rlms at 3am MY TIME which is gmt -6!

Im just basically saying... "Think BEFORE you put something in writing"

First, find a post of mine where I say "haha we rokz u suck we organiz we pwnd u!!!1" after one of our successful morning invasions.
The real issue here isn't the fact that you invade at down times (every realm does so basically), but the fact of making topics where you claim to be proud of zerging a bunch of guards and three high levels in the middle of the night (like half of the igneans here is doing).

Secondly, flaw system? the system was flawed with the goat fortifications (which yes, should have been goat, not ours. imho) and was immediately fix as soon as we placed the gems. So we had to retake those forts. (Edit. I see what you mean about the door, yes. That should change)

If you ever tried to invade in prime time, you would know why the invasion system is so flawed. The main issue is that to be able to invade successfully you need to heavily outnumber your opponent, hence why most of invasions occur at down times ?

Thirdly, There were people grinding while we were invading. So... Yes there were people online. Some people were actually trying to get forts back. However, some were not participating as a team player.

Did you know there's also people that were sleeping ? There's grinders everywhere in every realm. Stop saying that the fact that you encountered an almost null resistance means that we either grind and/or don't care, this is utter bullshit.
Personally, all the times you invaded lately I was sleeping in order to wake up early to go to the work. I wouldn't sacrify it just to defend my realm's pride in a video game. Maybe sleep and real life are concepts you don't understand.
http://www.essortment.com/sleep-important-16947.html

Fourthly, how could you possibly learn to adapt when you don't even attempt to invade at all.

There would be more invasions if there was a valid point for them.
- First, invasions need to occur in early morning or in the middle of the night for the defending realm else they are nearly impossible, so nothing to be proud (except for you it seems) about invading at down times.
- Secondly, besides the +exp bonus, the dragon wishes are uninteresting at all
- Third, I do not see the fun zerging a bunch of guards and four high levels with 70 people, normal wars, open fields and bridge fights are way funnier than this bullshit.

Hence why a lot of people don't care of invasions.

Now the fact that you care and that you think you're rollin' the game is good for you, but I doubt you'll see anyone else than yourselves clapping for your pride.

Congratulations for your victor-e.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

The real issue here isn't the fact that you invade at down times (every realm does so basically), but the fact of making topics where you claim to be proud of zerging a bunch of guards and three high levels in the middle of the night (like half of the igneans here is doing).

(...)

Now the fact that you care and that you think you're rollin' the game is good for you, but I doubt you'll see anyone else than yourselves clapping for your pride.

What he said.

[Raoh]

Thirdly, There were people grinding while we were invading. So... Yes there were people online. Some people were actually trying to get forts back. However, some were not participating as a team player.


This is part of the issue. I aggree with this point , Maddie.

There are people who care more about getting to level 60, they do about fighting in the war. Even if fighting in the war itself would help you get to 60 faster. XP bonus sure helps alot to get to that point, it really does. But many dont see that, so my little hit team just drifts right through the Syrtis woods admist grinding teams that just sit there and do nothing but grind constantly.

[ieti]

People are FREE to care for what they like to. Was it sleep, grind, chat, hunt etc etc etc. You can not force them to care for invasion you tried to pull. But that is not the main problem really. Noyone really cares that you invaded 1-2-3-4-6-100 times. Strange is that after nearly every invasion you open threads here and start - we are so alsum we invaded and stuff. Ok you done it in right time and succeeded, congrats. No need to see this kind of threads again and again and again.

[_Enio_]

I agree, id love to see some threads about awesome fights, with pics and story or something. There it would make sense to celebrate and share.

Daily nighttime invasions arent really interesting and everyone knows what it needs to get one done.

[VandaMan]

Strange is that after nearly every invasion you open threads here and start - we are so alsum we invaded and stuff. Ok you done it in right time and succeeded, congrats. No need to see this kind of threads again and again and again.

Only quoting you here because yours was the last one, but I think it's fair to point out that there is a similar thread after every Syrtis portal opening as well. There's no need to spam these threads with nonsense about how nobody cares, how much invasions suck, "u onli infade @ nitelol," or any other nonsense. If you don't care, don't post. If you think invasions suck or are pissed that you weren't awake, make a separate thread about it.

[Maddie]

No Shit people want to sleep I miss all ( except the one on holidays sometimes) the invasions because i would rather sleep and make good grades than play this game.

[ieti]

As Envy, Znurre and Scias pointed all invasions happen in nights, because there is small or no resistance. It is not because people grind, chat and do not want to participate - i want to participate ofc but if i can. Every realm do it because of that reason. You do it at work days at 6am our time, we do it at new years eve, on 4th of july... xD This is ok.

We just liked to point that this is not so big achievement. You organize, capture forts, break doors, take gems, get bonus. Ah and smash 6-10 enemies. No big deal. If invasion happen in active times it will be nice and fun for all.

Anyone who yells - "we are alsum", "we infadze you 2-3-4 times this night", "you suck here you go -xp", wants nothing more, but to troll. That is the reason why AKM's thread dissapeared so fast.

[blood-raven]

this game is going to be ruined, i suppose we can expect a weekly -xp for both realms? gj ignis have fun fighting yourself:facepalm3:

and as i mentioned: you conduct your reputation as a retarded realm since you invade at night and then go "look how awesome we are", but it's not something new, since you like to zerg small groups and go "wow mom look we killed some, love me now?"
+ are so f*cked up that you give both alsius and syrtis -xp, so it must be ignis is a retarded realm cause the vote goes with the majority

ranting is cool xD

[VandaMan]

We just liked to point that this is not so big achievement. You organize, capture forts, break doors, take gems, get bonus. Ah and smash 6-10 enemies. No big deal. If invasion happen in active times it will be nice and fun for all.

Anyone who yells - "we are alsum", "we infadze you 2-3-4 times this night", "you suck here you go -xp", wants nothing more, but to troll. That is the reason why AKM's thread dissapeared so fast.

But why do you feel the need to point out whether or not you think it's a big achievement at all, let alone in every thread that pops up after every invasion? Your repetitive insistence that there were only "6-10 enemies" says to me you're as set on trolling as the creators of other the other threads you refer to. Now that we have quests to kill unique enemies it's easy to say that these statements are false in the extreme, because all of our invasions have begun immediately after the quest reset, and many of us have had our quests finished with ease before we've even made the gate vulnerable.

Furthermore, this isn't even a congratulations thread. The original post is simply a screenshot of ignis at the portal, and a brief "thank you" to our enemies for putting up good fun fights.

[ieti]

Raven every realm used -xp wish at some point. Every realm ganks grinders, every realm invade at night.

Last night Immortal Daemon killed me like 10 times at same place. Well it happens.

Point is stuff like that is not to be proud of.

P.S. Thank you for giving us -xp :D

[VandaMan]

this game is going to be ruined, i suppose we can expect a weekly -xp for both realms? gj ignis have fun fighting yourself:facepalm3:

and as i mentioned: you conduct your reputation as a retarded realm since you invade at night and then go "look how awesome we are", but it's not something new, since you like to zerg small groups and go "wow mom look we killed some, love me now?"
+ are so f*cked up that you give both alsius and syrtis -xp, so it must be ignis is a retarded realm cause the vote goes with the majority

ranting is cool xD

Reality check...

You're allowed to invade too. Feel free to give yourselves +xp to make up for the -xp, or even give -xp to Ignis in return. Our "reputation as a retarded realm" based on a preference for night invasions, must be equally shared by all realms then I suppose, since night invasions are the only invasions. There's nothing retarded about giving -xp as our dragon wish, and if there is, once again you've just called your own realm retarded again. Both Alsius and Syrtis have taken their dragon wish to give an experience penalty in the past too.

[blood-raven]

i don't care what syrtis did, ignis did it now and it's retarded anyother way, why is it even in this game?

[Raoh]

i don't care what syrtis did, ignis did it now and it's retarded anyother way, why is it even in this game?

Thats just....uh....wow.

Its always been there (the negative xp wishes) , youve even used it against us just as we have, and this is all you can come up with? Just because it keeps you from grinding to 60. heh.

I dont think you would be complaining about it if you were on the beneficial end.

You know I wouldnt do the invasions if all I could do is kill Rios all the time. :) Cnekmp keeps getting to him before I can though.

[terekon]

As was said, we had resistance. On Saturday syrtis met us with lots of resistance and we only succeeded because alsius took alga.

On Sunday Alsius had plenty of resistance and failed to prevent us from invading only through a series of bad decisions.

We dont need 70 ppl to invade, and we didnt have close to those numbers at any point throughout the night. There was some syrtis at the fights for trelle, ask them.

The way it is set up now there is room for a group that is relatively smaller to prevent another realm from invading if they do a few things.

That was seen last night when alsius shut us down entirely. Nice fights btw alsius. They had similar numbers to us and many were low lvls. But they fully stopped us from doing anything with team work and observation as to how the game is played.

As far as the -xp goes i agree i dislike the -xp wish. I think the wishes should be things that benefit our the invading realm more directly than forcing our enemies to farm our grinders while we have +xp.

Finally if you dont care about invasions, then don't post in threads in support of them... There is lots of things said on the forums that I have no interest in and i simply dont post. You can piss and moan all you like. Invasions are fun and can be challenging. They can also be boring if there is no fight. Some night you many on some not so much... Not alot I can do about your population during times that we invade.

[Jippy]

Please close this thread someone... :facepalm3:

[Wyatt]

This thread like many others before it end up in the same thing, fights between users.

This thread is going no where.

Closed.