What's with the crashes?

[blood-raven]

Hi,

I started playing again yesterday and allready i have crashed 8 times deu to unknown errors.
Is the server unstable or could it be my computer/internet?

regards

[_Nel_]

Is the server unstable or could it be my computer/internet?
None of them. It's the regnum client that is very unstable when some options are activated.

[blood-raven]

None of them. It's the regnum client that is very unstable when some options are activated.

I'm playing in safe mode, so i don't know if there are any options left to deactivate :p.

[andres81]

It is a very common problem, I see all the time my clan members crashing and I am crashing around every 30minutos (in war every 10minutos, yeah, funny :facepalm3: ) -
I have an open support ticket since 19th of august where I reported more than 50 crashes con detailed descriptions and backtraces;
the so far only reply from NGD was the suggestion to reinstall the whole game (which does not change anything) :sleep_1:

[_Nel_]

I'm playing in safe mode, so i don't know if there are any options left to deactivate :p.

I suggest you to install a linux distribution.
Regnum is very stable on linux. Just tick off "weapon trails".

[ieti]

I can second what nel says. Only crashes i got are when i change between chars. Still i continue to send them crash logs and description.

[Pnarpa]

Won't I have other compatibility issues with other programs when I switch to linux from windows?

I don't know a thing about computers. I just click programs and it works. I've been using windows my entire life and the only problem I have with it, is the many RO crashes.

[andres81]

You can install it as secondary OS and select which OS to start when you boot...

However my Regnum client is crashing all the time under Linux (i don't have Windows) so I doubt if changing the OS will help :cuac:

[Pnarpa]

You can install it as secondary OS and select which OS to start when you boot...

However my Regnum client is crashing all the time under Linux (i don't have Windows) so I doubt if changing the OS will help :cuac:

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-45644.0.html

Looks like a lot of work just to play RO.

[andres81]

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-45644.0.html


That was the common way like 5 years ago.. forget it ;)

1) make a full backup of your harddisk (if something fails)
2) run a full disk defragmentation in Windows (command: defrag)
3) start the installation with one of the well known Linux distributions (openSUSE, Ubuntu, ...)
4) the Linux installer will make a setup recomendation to install the system beside your existing Windows

[Pnarpa]

That was the common way like 5 years ago.. forget it ;)

1) make a full backup of your harddisk (if something fails)
2) run a full disk defragmentation in Windows (command: defrag)
3) start the installation with one of the well known Linux distributions (openSUSE, Ubuntu, ...)
4) the Linux installer will make a setup recomendation to install the system beside your existing Windows

Thank you, I'll try that when I get home.

[_Nel_]

You can install it as secondary OS and select which OS to start when you boot...

However my Regnum client is crashing all the time under Linux (i don't have Windows) so I doubt if changing the OS will help :cuac:

Read again my last post. Solution has been given bazillions times in these forums.

[andres81]

Read again my last post. Solution has been given bazillions times in these forums.

Ok, "weapon trails" is the above or below one of this two or do I have to disable both?

[ieti]

Weapon Trails and Weapon Beams cause crashes. Better disable them both.

[_Nel_]

Ok, "weapon trails" is the above or below one of this two or do I have to disable both?

Weapon trails = Estelas de armas.

I still have "weapon beams" (rayos de armas) ticked on and I never crash.

[blood-raven]

Weapon Trails and Weapon Beams cause crashes. Better disable them both.

I have nor the one nor the other, and if regnum crashes just as much on linux as on windows it's kinda a lot of work for not much profit.
+ it's a bit stupid to install linux just because one game doesnt work properly :/.

(And i don't know much about computers either :p)

[_Nel_]

If you deselect weapon trails, regnum does not crash on linux.

Now, it's only your choice. Stay on a crappy OS that will crash regnum all the time or enter in the wonderful land of Free Software. :D

[NotScias]

Come on...

Someone complains about RO crashes and the only thing you recommend is "Install Linux" ?

RO is crossplatform, using crossplatform libraries, and besides for the Direct3D renderer, most of the code is (must be...) exactly the same. There's no reason why it should crash more on Windows than Linux if both using the OpenGL renderer at least...

Really, I'm using and I'm all for Linux, but preaching it like this especially to people who have no purpose nor knowledge for it is counterproductive...

[_Nel_]

Come on...

Someone complains about RO crashes and the only thing you recommend is "Install Linux" ?

Instead of moaning, what do you suggest ?
Installing linux is a fully tested and functional solution.

RO is crossplatform, using crossplatform libraries, and besides for the Direct3D renderer, most of the code is (must be...) exactly the same. There's no reason why it should crash more on Windows than Linux if both using the OpenGL renderer at least...
OpenGL is badly supported on Windows.

Really, I'm using and I'm all for Linux, but preaching it like this especially to people who have no purpose nor knowledge for it is counterproductive...
Did you miss my smiley ?

Anyway, even my little sister "who knows nothing in computer" succeeded to install Ubuntu by herself and run it without any help. She just read "How to install" in documentation. There is no knowledge required.

[NotScias]

Instead of moaning, what do you suggest ?
Installing linux is a fully tested and functional solution.

What I implied below : test with the OpenGL renderer. Maybe it performs better with Safe Mode than D3D who knows...

Installing linux is a fully tested and functional solution.

It may work, but it's stupid to solve a minor issue with huge and unecessary changes on all the computer. It's like squashing a fly with a nuclear bomb.

OpenGL is badly supported on Windows.

If the drivers are up-to-date, OpenGL is absolutely fine on Windows. Maybe just less performant than on Linux tho.
The graphics drivers share the same OpenGL rendering code between Linux and Windows.

Anyway, even my little sister "who knows nothing in computer" succeeded to install Ubuntu by herself and run it without any help. She just read "How to install" in documentation. There is no knowledge required.

Even if it's much easier to install Linux noadays, it's still a big task and very invasive changes in the computer and in the daily usage of a computer. There's nothing wrong with someone (beginner or not) that wants to switch on and discover Linux, who's ready to change his daily Win-habits...
Because even if most of the Desktop Environments in Linux are as simple if not simpler than Windows, it's still very different. The core of the OS is radically different and same for the possible issues the user might encounter too...

And that's why, suggesting to someone to cut his hard drive in half, reserve 3GB+RO and install a totally different OS just to solve a stupid issue concerning a game is not a good solution. Not everyone wants to reboot just to avoid a bug for a game, then reboot again to use some Windows-only programs or just get back to it as not needing/wanting Linux for the other normal computer tasks...
In the best case it's just uneeded, in the worst it's just leading to the frustration of the user (who naturally becomes an anti-linux troll)...

Anyways back on the topic, a lot of RO players are running Windows and don't seem to complain about excessive crashes, why would this case be impossible ?

[_Nel_]

It may work, but it's stupid to solve a minor issue with huge and unecessary changes on all the computer. It's like squashing a fly with a nuclear bomb.
8 crashes in the same evening a minor issue ? We don't share the same values.

If the drivers are up-to-date, OpenGL is absolutely fine on Windows. Maybe just less performant than on Linux tho.
The graphics drivers share the same OpenGL rendering code between Linux and Windows.
Or not. Test it by yourself, you'll see.

Even if it's much easier to install Linux noadays, it's still a big task and very invasive changes in the computer and in the daily usage of a computer. There's nothing wrong with someone (beginner or not) that wants to switch on and discover Linux, who's ready to change his daily Win-habits...
Because even if most of the Desktop Environments in Linux are as simple if not simpler than Windows, it's still very different. The core of the OS is radically different and same for the possible issues the user might encounter too...
Only few people switch because they want to lose their time to discover something they don't care. Each switch I heard of is because of painful crashes, virus/trojan/whatever, OS that slows down months after months, need to reinstall every 3 months, unstable applications, reboot each time something got installed ...
In fact I never knew anyone wanting to discover linux if everything went fine on windows.

And that's why, suggesting to someone to cut his hard drive in half, reserve 3GB+RO and install a totally different OS just to solve a stupid issue concerning a game is not a good solution. Not everyone wants to reboot just to avoid a bug for a game, then reboot again to use some Windows-only programs or just get back to it as not needing/wanting Linux for the other normal computer tasks...
In the best case it's just uneeded, in the worst it's just leading to the frustration of the user (who naturally becomes an anti-linux troll)...
Constant crashes are not minor/stupid issues.

I first suggested to remove some options in regnum, since he plays on safe-mode it's useless. Then I gave him a fully tested solution. He has choice now, give a try and test regnum on linux or stay on win. No one pointed a gun at his head. He knows there is a good solution. Free for him to try it or not.

@ blood-raven:
Make sure you have a windows restoration CD and back-up all your data. Sometimes shit happens.

And no need to reboot, linux has a pretty good amount of programs, only AAA games are lacking (except regnum). If he plays on safe-mode, I doubt he's a hard-core gamer. So everything will be fine on linux: web/youtube/facebook/twitter, photo/audio/video, mail, instant messaging, games, ... and most of them for free.

...and thinking blood-raven may become a linux/win troll... :rolleyes2:
Since he doesn't pay much attention to computers, I doubt he will haunt all forums on the web to search for trolling topics.

Anyways back on the topic, a lot of RO players are running Windows and don't seem to complain about excessive crashes, why would this case be impossible ?
Never heard of losing sound ? Multiple crashes (http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/forum/showthread.php?p=1425475) in game ?
I hear of them everyday from windows players.
Not a single one from linux players.

[blood-raven]

Well i continue to crash 4 times an hour with even more ping spikes of 20k+ and game freezes also found this:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/timmeh_2008/screenshot2011-09-3014_51_57.jpg

As you can see i casted low profile but the guards continued to attack me, i hope this is because of lag and not a new bug.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

(...)
In the best case it's just uneeded, in the worst it's just leading to the frustration of the user (who naturally becomes an anti-linux troll)...

(...)

That's what I've become. Tried Linux once. Worst experience on a computer. Ever. Fuck Linux.

[NotScias]

Well i continue to crash 4 times an hour with even more ping spikes of 20k+ and game freezes also found this:

Did you try playing with OpenGL ? Are your drivers up-to-date ? etc...
Anyways if you have Internet lag, I'm afraid the computer isn't in cause but more like your connection.

As you can see i casted low profile but the guards continued to attack me, i hope this is because of lag and not a new bug.

Someone clicked the flag after you went into low pro, was it you ? Because interacting with an object/flag while being in sanctuary/lp cancels it.

8 crashes in the same evening a minor issue ? We don't share the same values.

A single program crashing is a minor issue if you look it from an OS-wide perspective and doesn't justify reinstalling or installing another OS. If it was Windows BSOD'ing every 15 minutes it would be a major issue.

Or not. Test it by yourself, you'll see.

I have Win7 in dualboot, I use a lot of OpenGL stuff on it (Particle illusion, Blender, Photoshop with accel...) plus RO which works fine and has exactly the same FPS if not more than on Linux with OpenGL (thanks to shitty ATI linux drivers).

Only few people switch because they want to lose their time to discover something they don't care. Each switch I heard of is because of painful crashes, virus/trojan/whatever, OS that slows down months after months, need to reinstall every 3 months, unstable applications, reboot each time something got installed ...

Yes, but is it the case in this topic?
Here, someone is complaining about ONE single program that is crashing.
How do you know he's unhappy with his current Windows, or that his whole Windows is bloated and unuseable ?
People that switch on Linux because their Windows is broken actually want to switch on it, and are prepared to the change, and it's justified. Here it's just a crashing game that doesn't justify changing the whole OS.

...And no need to reboot, linux has a pretty good amount of programs, only AAA games are lacking...

Yes we all know that, the problem is not that Linux hasn't got good programs.
The problem is : why change ? Your car is working fine besides for the Air Conditioner, is it a reason to change your car ?
If someone's fine with his current stuff, why forcing a change ?

Never heard of losing sound ? Multiple crashes in game ?
I hear of them everyday from windows players.
Not a single one from linux players.

There's plenty of Windows users running Regnum perfectly and that never complain too.
And the Linux side of RO isn't perfect, I've seen users complaining and had issues with RO sometimes like :
- Launcher not launching (GTK missing since RO doesn't provide it and doesn't indicate this dependency)
- Audio not working (OpenAL...)
- Pulseaudio-related issues
- "Graphics card is too old" issue with old and Intel GPUs that have no choice but to run the Open Source drivers without built-in S3TC...
- Crashes when moving, minimizing, after lock screen, and jerky fullscreen switches...
- Shitty proprietary drivers not matching performance compared to Windows/D3D

Anyways this is going out of the topic, I'll be glad to argue with you for hours in ingame chat about it.

[fred1011010110]

Anyways this is going out of the topic, I'll be glad to argue with you for hours in ingame chat about it.

wats wrong wit u?? dnt tell me u akshully agru wit ur realm mates? dude dats as lame as it gets srsly, i neer ever ever try an pull a agrument wit my realm buddies. ever. i respect the,m dey respect me 4 who i am. i cn't believe u u r typical syrtis scumbag dats it. nuthin else, now i expcet ur classic "im smarter than you you faggit" type of replies like u always do. ppl, take away the s and c and replace it wit a b and u got BIAS. i kno ur the only one who hates me and gives me red karma, i kno lots of ppl who like me and i kno i do a good job in wat i do and dats bringin juiucetise to this forum.

-fred1011010110

[_Emin_]

wats wrong wit u?? dnt tell me u akshully agru wit ur realm mates? dude dats as lame as it gets srsly, i neer ever ever try an pull a agrument wit my realm buddies. ever. i respect the,m dey respect me 4 who i am. i cn't believe u u r typical syrtis scumbag dats it. nuthin else, now i expcet ur classic "im smarter than you you faggit" type of replies like u always do. ppl, take away the s and c and replace it wit a b and u got BIAS. i kno ur the only one who hates me and gives me red karma, i kno lots of ppl who like me and i kno i do a good job in wat i do and dats bringin juiucetise to this forum.

-fred1011010110

Google Translation couldn't translate this.

[NotScias]

Lol you made my day (again) :clapclap:

dnt tell me u akshully agru wit ur realm mates? dude dats as lame as it gets srsly, i neer ever ever try an pull a agrument wit my realm buddies.

What's wrong? So because they are member of the same realm or clan you can't discuss and disagree with them about non-RO topics especially?

i kno ur the only one who hates me and gives me red karma

Okay, time to accomplish my duty then :D
http://i.imgur.com/VjsYo.png

[_Nel_]

A single program crashing is a minor issue if you look it from an OS-wide perspective and doesn't justify reinstalling or installing another OS. If it was Windows BSOD'ing every 15 minutes it would be a major issue.
Since he started a thread about that special issue, I guess he doesn't consider it as minor, he doesn't want to play with it and he's searching for a solution. That's enough for me to don't consider it as minor too.


I have Win7 in dualboot, I use a lot of OpenGL stuff on it (Particle illusion, Blender, Photoshop with accel...) plus RO which works fine and has exactly the same FPS if not more than on Linux with OpenGL (thanks to shitty ATI linux drivers).
I'm glad for you. In my case, win+opengl = -30% fps than win+d3d or linux+opengl, and close to -50% in wars.


Yes, but is it the case in this topic?
Here, someone ... bla-bla-bla...why forcing a change ?...bla-bla-bla...

We already had a discussion in clan chat and you kept striking the same bullshit over and over again for more than an hour, as you are doing here. I'll repeat myself, a suggestion is NOT forcing someone to do something.

Anyway, if you like trolling about useless stuff like linux/win/kde/gnome/pulseaudio/anything else, let me force you to visit and register to a well known french website for their weekly, friendly and endless trolling parties: Da linux french page (http://linuxfr.org).
Moreover, friday is trollday, you're a lucky man! :D

And about linux only for the elites who has enough awareness/enlightenment/refinement to handle it, I would like to quote this :
Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else, and we are all part of the same compost pile.

[PT_DaAr_PT]

It's so easy to throw the troll-card these days. Fuck you Scias and your rational arguments, ya jes' trollin'.

[_Kharbon_]

wats wrong wit u?? dnt tell me u akshully agru wit ur realm mates? dude dats as lame as it gets srsly, i neer ever ever try an pull a agrument wit my realm buddies. ever. i respect the,m dey respect me 4 who i am. i cn't believe u u r typical syrtis scumbag dats it. nuthin else, now i expcet ur classic "im smarter than you you faggit" type of replies like u always do. ppl, take away the s and c and replace it wit a b and u got BIAS. i kno ur the only one who hates me and gives me red karma, i kno lots of ppl who like me and i kno i do a good job in wat i do and dats bringin juiucetise to this forum.

-fred1011010110

You hurt me. Please try to write in english!

I have almost no problem with crashes on win xp... (supposing my network's ok) I get few crashes when switching characters, but that's all...

[NSer]

You hurt me. Please try to write in english!

I have almost no problem with crashes on win xp... (supposing my network's ok) I get few crashes when switching characters, but that's all...

Same.... Windows XP d3d no crashes except switching chars... but oh wait there are some but pretty rare

[Castingbeast]

I play on windows xp home mostly and I got more crashes these days. Too many even!!

Noticed that it happens mostly when the game wanna download something but it just cant.....

Please have a look at this issue as well, its really umm, annoying :(.

[blood-raven]

Today it's getting worse, i have packetloss non stop, ping jumps up and down and in the past 20 minutes i crashed 5 times.
NGD, perhaps consider replacing the WW2 server with a server from this age.

[AxisVirtd]

I suggest you to install a linux distribution.
Regnum is very stable on linux. Just tick off "weapon trails".

Two days ago I`ve got 7 or 8 crashes during an hour — battle around Aggersborg, three 30+ zerg from three realms.
Yesterday I`ve got 3 crashes while killing of Tenax.
Crashes during caracters`s swithing are not rare too.

Fedora (Linux). So, looks like linux-client is not stable too.

That's what I've become. Tried Linux once. Worst experience on a computer. Ever. Fuck Linux.

Linux is not ideal (and sometimes it`s not even good enough), but unfortunately there is nothing better among operating systems.

[_Nel_]

Two days ago I`ve got 7 or 8 crashes during an hour — battle around Aggersborg, three 30+ zerg from three realms.
Yesterday I`ve got 3 crashes while killing of Tenax.
Crashes during caracters`s swithing are not rare too.

Fedora (Linux). So, looks like linux-client is not stable too.

It's a very well known bug on linux client. Read more carefully what you quoted from me.
I said untick Weapon trails and everything will be much better.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5369/weapontrail.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/weapontrail.png/)

Also, other known crashes are while switching characters (seems happening less than before), minimizing/maximizing window, and switching between virtual desktops.

But at least the last three ones don't occur during crucial moments like boss or big battle.

[AxisVirtd]

It's a very well known bug on linux client. Read more carefully what you quoted from me.
I said untick Weapon trails and everything will be much better.


Where can I find this window?
This is not video-settings one.

[_Nel_]

Click "options" then "advanced options" before choosing a server.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9145/captureregnumonline.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/captureregnumonline.jpg/)

[AxisVirtd]

[QUOTE=_Nel_;1458910]Click "options" then "advanced options" before choosing a server.

Oh, thanks. I`ve heard about weаpon trails before, but did not know where this option is. I`ll test this variant.

[Kyrottimus]

I too crash all the time while changing characters. I used to send error reports but after the first dozen or so I stopped because it was obvious nobody was reading them (or cared).

[Castingbeast]

Thought i share it.

So i changed from XP to windows 7 recently and i had not one crash during char change so far (and i did a lot :D).
Downloaded the newest video driver too, might be coz of that or its coz of the windows 7, no idea.....

Tho i had another issue now. Happens me sometimes that my in-game char just disappears (no, not my hunter xD), im not able to see myself, getting invisible etc. (call it what you want) and its really annoying.
The only solution for it is a relog :(.

Not to mention that i lose sound too, didnt have neither of these under XP :s

Anyone else having the same problems or its just me?

[_Nel_]

Anyone else having the same problems or its just me?

Not just you. I heard lot of people in game complaining because of becoming invisible and more often losing sound.

They use the same solution as you, relog. :/

[blood-raven]

Well, i won't play this game anymore, it's just impossible.
I crash everytime i log in or if i don't, the game goes mental and does some wierd sh*t.

cya all

[Frosk]

Thought i share it.

So i changed from XP to windows 7 recently and i had not one crash during char change so far (and i did a lot :D).
Downloaded the newest video driver too, might be coz of that or its coz of the windows 7, no idea.....

Tho i had another issue now. Happens me sometimes that my in-game char just disappears (no, not my hunter xD), im not able to see myself, getting invisible etc. (call it what you want) and its really annoying.
The only solution for it is a relog :(.

Not to mention that i lose sound too, didnt have neither of these under XP :s

Anyone else having the same problems or its just me?

This error seems to be produced whenever you get ko'd (this includes getting killed) when standing on any of the newest structures such as bridges or castles.
It may produce the "disappearance" of your character, the loss of sound, fps-drop or in the worst case, a sudden client crash.

This error has been reported a lot of times, and from what I know, it has already been identified and figured out.
I hope it's fixed around the time the next update or hotfix is scheduled, so from my position, I'll ask you to be patient until I get some any news on it.

Regards!

[Kyrottimus]

This error seems to be produced whenever you get ko'd (this includes getting killed) when standing on any of the newest structures such as bridges or castles.
It may produce the "disappearance" of your character, the loss of sound, fps-drop or in the worst case, a sudden client crash.

This error has been reported a lot of times, and from what I know, it has already been identified and figured out.
I hope it's fixed around the time the next update or hotfix is scheduled, so from my position, I'll ask you to be patient until I get some any news on it.

Regards!

Any word on the "change character" crashes? Unlike windows users, I'm staying on Linux and wouldn't use Windows if anyone paid me to switch.

My graphics drivers are updated and I run in Shader 3 (until I can spring for a better G-card) with pretty much all details as low as possible.

I used to send a ton of crash reports, enough I'm sure to convey the issue to the Devs. I'd hoped one day this would be resolved.