View Full Version : Which Top 3 warlocks would you want to kill?
ZephMagic
11-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Hey guys havent had a thread like this so yeah, which locks do you find tough to kill or just find them annoying XD
Locks are not so annoying - barbs and marks are more deadly and annoying. Still if you eat darkness it becomes problem.
_Emin_
11-02-2011, 03:39 PM
Why do I think you're Lightningg xD
Torcida
11-02-2011, 04:09 PM
Why do I think you're Lightningg xD
Lol are you serious or what?
Hollow_Ichigo
11-02-2011, 08:46 PM
im sure if i was in alsius or syrtis, hepha would be the one to kill, but being in ignis i find it great fighting along side someone who has great experience, and knows what to do in extreme situations.
the only warlock i would want to kill would be mjollinir but i dont see him much.
Mrreality13
11-03-2011, 11:53 PM
i kill all locks _If and that's a BIG if i can catch em they op'd:cuac:
lol
The_Krome_Dragon
11-04-2011, 01:54 AM
All of them though if i have to pick three...
Heph II: bec he's pro
Lightning: because he bugs me clan while they grind
and last but not least all the dang slow spamming that pick me out of a zergxD
tjanex
11-04-2011, 04:44 PM
Hey guys havent had a thread like this so yeah, which locks do you find tough to kill or just find them annoying XD
Can we conclude this person already made other threads? And therefor is just another player, which is also funny that Lightningg immidiately responds after emino's comment.
Just funny
Psynocide
11-04-2011, 06:04 PM
Don't feed the ego.
Torcida
11-04-2011, 06:51 PM
Can we conclude this person already made other threads? And therefor is just another player, which is also funny that Lightningg immidiately responds after emino's comment.
Just funny
Dude ask Emino ( a good schoolfriend of me) if he still thinks I made this thread =/
Don't feed the ego.
Epic quote.
_Emin_
11-04-2011, 09:51 PM
Dude ask Emino ( a good schoolfriend of me) if he still thinks I made this thread =/
I'm kidding because lightningg often says ''XD''
Kittypretty
11-05-2011, 08:10 AM
None i guess, cant kill any.
_Enio_
11-05-2011, 08:40 AM
From markx perspective:
tbh - atm all locks are kinda the same. when in range you get dotspam+freeze / dizzy+ivy+dotspam. When not in range they dick around trying to not get hit by arrows. Cant blame em, got fuckd up by added bow range. Just want to say - theres no real diff btween a skilled and a noobish lock, theres just no real room for noticable impact. If they *can* cast they fuck you up with simple combos and unlimited simple cc chains, if not in rnage they
suck around hugging something no matter the skill.
From knight perspective:
LoL
boert_crandal
11-05-2011, 10:47 AM
From markx perspective:
tbh - atm all locks are kinda the same. when in range you get dotspam+freeze / dizzy+ivy+dotspam. When not in range they dick around trying to not get hit by arrows. Cant blame em, got fuckd up by added bow range. Just want to say - theres no real diff btween a skilled and a noobish lock, theres just no real room for noticable impact. If they *can* cast they fuck you up with simple combos and unlimited simple cc chains, if not in rnage they
suck around hugging something no matter the skill.
From knight perspective:
LoL
Look at this n00b rage.
From markx perspective:
tbh - atm all locks are kinda the same. when in range you get dotspam+freeze / dizzy+ivy+dotspam. When not in range they dick around trying to not get hit by arrows. Cant blame em, got fuckd up by added bow range. Just want to say - theres no real diff btween a skilled and a noobish lock, theres just no real room for noticable impact. If they *can* cast they fuck you up with simple combos and unlimited simple cc chains, if not in rnage they
suck around hugging something no matter the skill.
From knight perspective:
LoL
I would say almost all classes were impacted regarding the skill requirement since a year. Game is much more about numbers that it was.
Still i think warlocks have very hard time now at war, and they still need skills and reflexes to survive.
We are far from warlocks era though (where sultars chains and sm ruled the world).
Pwnography
11-05-2011, 11:44 AM
Look at this n00b rage.
Look at this tr0ll fail.
boert_crandal
11-05-2011, 11:50 AM
Look at this tr0ll fail.
lol mad? trolled.
2 pages and already off topic \o/
we're on a roll!
esp_tupac
11-05-2011, 03:32 PM
From markx perspective:
tbh - atm all locks are kinda the same. when in range you get dotspam+freeze / dizzy+ivy+dotspam. When not in range they dick around trying to not get hit by arrows. Cant blame em, got fuckd up by added bow range. Just want to say - theres no real diff btween a skilled and a noobish lock, theres just no real room for noticable impact. If they *can* cast they fuck you up with simple combos and unlimited simple cc chains, if not in rnage they
suck around hugging something no matter the skill.
From knight perspective:
LoL
There is no real diff between a skilled and a noobish lock in large scale RvR because you don't get to cast a whole lot before the opponent is dead or ur dead and in the end, side with more number always wins. however skill will have a huge impact in small scale hunting and also in pvp where reaction time and hand techniques which are alll associated with casting speed makes a huge impact. all locks are kinda the same because they know what to cast in various conditions. spell choice doesn't take a genious to figure out. the key is how fast you can cast them under pressure where the reaction time, reflex, and all the other small details make a difference. Talking about combos and cc chains, warlocks being a pure spell based class have hundreds of sophisticated spells chains for different scenarios which makes them the most versatile class of all 6. That's why they are superior in pvp and hunting. I spent years doing research on warlock's combat system in order to maximize warlock's combat efficiency and improvements can still be made but ppl talk about warlock like it's all easy which i find very insulting. In small scale fights, it takes a lot more than easy looking combos to win. a experienced warlock would know. talking about simplicity, it only take 1 spell Burst of Wind or WinterStroke to screw up a warlock in RvR. what do most marksman do these days? they stay out of range 35+ and shoot uber high normals, maybe occasionally cast WinterStroke or BoW just to piss mage off and then lowprofile followed by sotw or one of the other to run away when opposing side is rushing in. Therefore, i can say here is no real diff between a skilled and a noobish player at all (in RvR) isn't that what you were trying to say? for the last time, tree hugging is a wz tactic. there is nothing wrong with tree hugging. smart players always utilize terrain to their advantage in combat. seriously enio you should shut the fuck up and show me how u play. having extensive knowledge of a class doesn't mean shit, just show me in a video.
_Enio_
11-05-2011, 04:01 PM
1) There is no real diff between a skilled and a noobish lock in large scale RvR because you don't get to cast a whole lot before the opponent is dead or ur dead and in the end, side with more number always wins.
[...]
Therefore, i can say here is no real diff between a skilled and a noobish player at all (in RvR) isn't that what you were trying to say?
2) for the last time, tree hugging is a wz tactic. there is nothing wrong with tree hugging. smart players always utilize terrain to their advantage in combat.
3) seriously enio you should shut the fuck up
4) and show me how u play. having extensive knowledge of a class doesn't mean shit, just show me in a video.
You kinda completely missed my intention. Its a bit poorly worded i agree. It was a complain on increased bows range and current RvR dynamics (i.e. beacons) screwing up locks ability to do more then the basic dotspam.
1) Exactly. I dont say lock doesnt require skill or anyhing, they just suffer similar to marks on low vs high skill margin in RvR.
2) Exactly, did i say something negative about it? When out of range "sucking around hugging something" = "They cant do shit and are forced to hug something to not get ranged to pieces from afar"
3) fail. cmon you can do better.
4) To prove .. what exactly?
VandaMan
11-05-2011, 05:35 PM
I spent years doing research on warlock's combat system in order to maximize warlock's combat efficiency
Lol?
just show me in a video.
Lol?
I hate to break it to you, but there's really no difference between being good at warlock and being good at any other class. All your bullshit about combos, CC chains, combat efficiency, reaction time, and reflex applies to every class, and none are even as important as simple situational awareness, which you completely neglected to mention. And here's the kicker, you're not even good. You'd think after "years of research" you would at least know the durations of your own CCs. I've watched your videos, played along side you, and played against you; you are not much more than a mediocre warlock. It's PvP, stop making it out to be something more than it is.
_Emin_
11-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Look at this n00b rage.
Dude wtf are you talking ? nice first post ; ''calling someone n00b''. Don't call people ''n00b'' if they play longer than you.
Edit : I will fix your sign ; ''People like me should be banned, imo''
Psynocide
11-05-2011, 05:52 PM
I spent years doing research on warlock's combat system in order to maximize warlock's combat
Lol?
Didn't you know? This game is serious business - MLG fo' sho'.
esp_tupac
11-05-2011, 06:57 PM
Lol?
Lol?
I hate to break it to you, but there's really no difference between being good at warlock and being good at any other class. All your bullshit about combos, CC chains, combat efficiency, reaction time, and reflex applies to every class, and none are even as important as simple situational awareness, which you completely neglected to mention. And here's the kicker, you're not even good. You'd think after "years of research" you would at least know the durations of your own CCs. I've watched your videos, played along side you, and played against you; you are not much more than a mediocre warlock. It's PvP, stop making it out to be something more than it is.
situational awareness = picking the right spell according to different situation that's the spell choice (perception) part?. how to translate your thoughts into action (reaction) is the most important part and there is the mechanic part. regardless of how noob i am as a warlock. one thing i know for sure, practise makes perfect. hunting in small scale makes me a better player and help me grow much faster than if i play fort war. hate to break it to you but how much time have u spent hunting on warlock? how long have u been playing warlock? what lvl are you anyway? last time i checked you were lvl 52 and quit Horus cuz u can't handle the heat? all my research and development on the setup are based of thousands of wz encounters. you call all this bullshit? or are you just jealous lol if im a mediocre warlock, show me what's a good warlock and how they fight so i can learn from them and improve upon. without the amount of practise and experience there is no way u gonna make a good video. i know how much time i have spent practising so don't bullshit a bushiter man. and don't judge a player based on one or 2 fights alone. as many ppl say pvp is all luck now. the only time i saw you is during my 2 week Raven tour as a lvl 46 warlock and it was in a RvR situation on raven. btw ive watched a video of you from fiasco's page. you are like 1 year behind me in terms of overall technique. the time i made my second warlock to 50 on ra and starting to make a difference in the warzone, you were not even born yet lol who are you to even judge me...
Torcida
11-05-2011, 07:25 PM
you're not even good. You'd think after "years of research" you would at least know the durations of your own CCs. I've watched your videos, played along side you, and played against you; you are not much more than a mediocre warlock. It's PvP, stop making it out to be something more than it is.
ahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahha
Please Just PLEASE
WHO in the Blue Hell are you?
Pnarpa
11-05-2011, 07:33 PM
The one thing all these warlocks lack, is modesty... and the ability to write in paragraphs.
VandaMan
11-05-2011, 07:34 PM
situational awareness = picking the right spell according to different situation that's the spell choice (perception) part?. how to translate your thoughts into action (reaction) is the most important part and there is the mechanic part.
No, situational awareness is knowing what's going on around you. Seeing everything, and not just the person you're targeting or the person who is targeting you.
hate to break it to you but how much time have u spent hunting on warlock? how long have u been playing warlock?
I've spent a lot of time hunting on a warlock, and a lot of time playing warlock.
what lvl are you anyway? last time i checked you were lvl 52 and quit Horus cuz u can't handle the heat?
Level has nothing to do with how good you are at playing a class... especially not warlock where your spell damage and durations are not dependent on level at all. I didn't quit Horus because I couldn't handle the heat, I moved to a server that had smaller fights, and less zerg warfare (kind of like you just said you prefer - "hunting in small scale makes me a better player and help me grow much faster than if i play fort war")
all my research and development on the setup are based of thousands of wz encounters. you call all this bullshit?
I call your research and development bullshit because there is no research and development. It's not some kind of science, and there's no "best way" to play. What kind of "research" are you even talking about, you went to your local library to read up on warlocks?
or are you just jealous lol if im a mediocre warlock, show me what's a good warlock and how they fight so i can learn from them and improve upon. without the amount of practise and experience there is no way u gonna make a good video. i know how much time i have spent practising so don't bullshit a bushiter man. and don't judge a player based on one or 2 fights alone. as many ppl say pvp is all luck now. the only time i saw you is during my 2 week Raven tour as a lvl 46 warlock and it was in a RvR situation on raven. btw ive watched a video of you from fiasco's page. you are like 1 year behind me in terms of overall technique. who are you to even judge me lol noob ass.
What does making videos to show people how good you are have to do with anything? You can fail 90% of the time, and show the 10% where you pwn, and everyone thinks you're a pr0... and you sir, do in fact fail 90% of the time.
You saw me plenty on raven, in fact I remember wiping the floor with you nonstop. There's a reason you shy away from fort wars and RvR action, and that's because fights are more difficult when your enemies are ready for a fight. All I've ever seen you do is gank the unaware, and fight in simple 1 dimensional situations like PvPs, and after witnessing your short time in the Raven server, I realize this is because that's all you can do.
I don't mean to say that one requires more skill than the other, just that they are different skill sets, and one is more important than the other in an RvR game. You run around set up with ridiculous amounts of high level CCs, and then use them to rape people who never saw you coming without giving them any opportunities to fight back, and that's fine, that is the point of CCs and that's what happens when you chain them, but it doesn't make you good. Any idiot can do that, and you don't even do it well - I've watched you countless times waste almost half the duration of a CC, casting the next one prematurely.
Also, I know I've already quoted this, but I feel it's worth quoting again just for lolfactor:
don't judge a player based on one or 2 fights alone.
ive watched a video of you from fiasco's page. you are like 1 year behind me in terms of overall technique.
Also, I pride myself on my ability to write in paragraphs, tyvm Blaa.
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 07:40 PM
ahhahhahahhahhahhahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahahahah ahahahahha
Please Just PLEASE
WHO in the Blue Hell are you?
Although I disagree with Van, I think heph is a very good lock (at pvp at least, never really seen him at a fort), Van is one of the best players to play on horus and possibly the game. He is one of the best lock, conj I have fought with or against and good at marks, knight, and hunter as well. I have never seen him play barb though.
Some of his vids from Raven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLd7NF-lf3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpgO9QDDhZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyMOrmfJW0
(ignore the editing) :p
As much as I love Heph, if I were to choose a team mate, Van > Heph.
Psynocide
11-05-2011, 07:44 PM
The one thing all these warlocks lack, is modesty... and the ability to write in paragraphs.
+1 Lmfao, narcissistic kids.
Gabburtjuh
11-05-2011, 07:50 PM
I'd totally pwn you all at warlock, srzly, I spend years of research and tons of time grinding, to figure out the best way to use a CC on grinders, dot them and then more CCs, also, I r very pro cuz I can kill people in PvPs with the second best class to PvP.
End this thread plz, the above pretty much sums up what I've seen from all the warlocks (except van) and it's all bs >.>
Awrath
11-05-2011, 07:56 PM
Hate to break it to you PvP warlocks, but PvP is unfair in its current state and will remain so while the main focus of the game remains RvR. it is not possible to balance both PvP and RvR aspects of the game.
When it comes to PvP, the only time it's balanced is when you are fighting the same subclass, otherwise, PvP and its results are meaningless as some subclasses have a huge advantage over others. Any lock in PvP setup usually expects a win as long as they are not up against a marksman, otherwise they will tree hug until the marksman gets bored and leaves or risks moving closer. Consider also that most locks in PvP setup will be coming across people who are set up for grinding or RvR, so they are also not prepared for PvP.
In conclusion, PvP = useless.
PT_DaAr_PT
11-05-2011, 07:57 PM
I'd totally pwn you all at warlock, srzly, I spend years of research and tons of time grinding, to figure out the best way to use a CC on grinders, dot them and then more CCs, also, I r very pro cuz I can kill people in PvPs with the second best class to PvP.
End this thread plz, the above pretty much sums up what I've seen from all the warlocks (except van) and it's all bs >.>
If you were a moderator, you would be a bad moderator. Just because you don't agree with the things that are being discussed here doesn't give you any valid reason to silence people. By closing this thread you're forbidding them to voice their personal opinions.
Torcida
11-05-2011, 07:57 PM
Raven
Ahh enough said
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLd7NF-lf3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpgO9QDDhZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyMOrmfJW0
(ignore the editing) :p
.
So that piece of toilet paper thinks he is better then Hephaestus Ahhh cmon?
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 08:01 PM
Ahh enough said
So that piece of toilet paper thinks he is better then Hephaestus Ahhh cmon?
How is it enough said? You are retarded if you think there aren't some very good players on Raven. I've fought on Raven and Horus, I have been frequently visiting Horus recently. Raven has better players. All Horus is is a bunch of WM shit and huge barb zergs that rape you in 2 seconds.
Piece of toilet paper, lolwut? He is better than Heph. You obviously don't know what you are talking about, as usual.
Torcida
11-05-2011, 08:03 PM
Hate to break it to you PvP warlocks, but PvP is unfair
Hell No, hunters and knights are probabbly considered the weakest pvp class well I can tell you Immortal Demon (Hunter) and Lord Beulzebub (Knight from RA) could beat anyone.
In conclusion, PvP = useless.
Thats your opinion :P
_Enio_
11-05-2011, 08:06 PM
In conclusion, PvP = useless.
It has a use, its perfect for training your mechanics and understanding the classes without interference.
Which in effect will allow you to concentrate on the core of RvR skill in war - situational awareness, positioning, timing on greater scale (when to do what), and well - most importantly - teamplay.
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 08:07 PM
Hell No, hunters and knights are probabbly considered the weakest pvp class well I can tell you Immortal Demon (Hunter) and Lord Beulzebub (Knight from RA) could beat anyone.
>hunters weakest pvp class
>hunters weakest pvp
>hunters weakest
>weakest
lolwut?
Hunters will just camo and sit out everyone's buffs if they want. Knights, once they reach you (for a ranged class) its next to impossible to get away. For barb, they just rape barbs almost all the time.
LMAO@"I can tell you Immortal Demon (Hunter) could beat anyone"
LMAOROFL LOLOLOL jajajejejajaja MDRMDR
xDDDDD
LOL
Torcida
11-05-2011, 08:10 PM
How is it enough said? You are retarded if you think there aren't some very good players on Raven. I've fought on Raven and Horus, I have been frequently visiting Horus recently. Raven has better players. All Horus is is a bunch of WM shit and huge barb zergs that rape you in 2 seconds.
Lets not talk about very good players you have them everywhere and most of the times they are equally good (Handyman not included bytheway)
Lets talk about average players I would bet my house that a Average horus player is better then a Raven player.
Piece of toilet paper, lolwut? He is better than Heph. You obviously don't know what you are talking about, as usual.
Lets not talk about very good players you have them everywhere and most of the times they are equally good (Handyman not included bytheway)
Lets talk about average players I would bet my house that a Average horus player is better then a Raven player.
How is he better then Hepha?
Torcida
11-05-2011, 08:12 PM
LMAO@"I can tell you Immortal Demon (Hunter) could beat anyone"
LMAOROFL LOLOLOL jajajejejajaja MDRMDR
xDDDDD
LOL
He would absolutely destroy you, Sleeping. And you know that last time you were too afraid to fight him don't deny it cause everyone can look it up and see it for themselves
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 08:13 PM
Lets not talk about very good players you have them everywhere and most of the times they are equally good (Handyman not included bytheway)
Lets talk about average players I would bet my house that a Average horus player is better then a Raven player.
How is he better then Hepha?
The average Horus player better than the average Raven player? It's arguable. There is a much bigger population on Horus than on Raven. But all the average horus players knows is to click on WM banners. So I would go with the average Raven player tbh.
How is not is the better question. There is nothing that shows Heph being better. Heph only plays one class, Van plays several and is good/great on all of them.
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 08:17 PM
He would absolutely destroy, Sleeping. And you know that last time you were too afraid to fight him don't deny it cause everyone can look it up and see it for themselves
Yea, thats why he, as a lvl 60 hunter with OP gear, did it to my lvl 54 marks with all armor bad/v bad to pierce.
Then when he lost he tried to claim I did an unfair pvp because he wasn't ready but he buffed and started running at me and continued to fight after I hit him. If he wasn't ready he should have stopped and I would have stopped.
He is a cocky dumbass that thinks he is the greatest hunter ever and nobody could beat him. Underestimated me and got anally raped and then came to cry about it on here.
Sore loser ftw. He isn't that good. Any hunter can use confuse 5 on an unbuffed player and kite them. He has done 0 things to show he is good. I know you are his butt buddy but, get off his dick
Edit: Also, I know that he recorded it so that if he won he could come on here and brag. I like how he wouldn't post the video for everyone to see. And if he did show me the link.
Awrath
11-05-2011, 08:22 PM
It has a use, its perfect for training your mechanics and understanding the classes without interference.
Which in effect will allow you to concentrate on the core of RvR skill in war - situational awareness, positioning, timing on greater scale (when to do what), and well - most importantly - teamplay.
In that sense, yes, it is useful. I do agree about situation awareness, positioning and timing however, my shield bash after knock was perfected in PvP.
I wouldn't say it's perfect for training your mechanics, but it certainly would help with understanding the classes, I agree. At the end of the day however, a PvP setup will differ from an RvR setup. PvP setups in most cases would not include ally/area buffs or support spells for example, or area attacks (except maybe lightning arrow/caltrops).
Perhaps I worded it wrong, but my point was regarding people who have egos over PvP, of course if you set yourself up for PvP, catch people unaware, catch people grinding or whatever, it's quite obvious you already have the upper hand. In this sense, PvP proves nothing, unless the primary focus of this game was PvP. Because the primary focus is RvR, majority of people are set up for fort wars or large battles.
Torcida
11-05-2011, 08:24 PM
Van plays several and is good/great on all of them.
I think your and my standars of whats a good player are way apart of each other.
Yea, thats why he, as a lvl 60 hunter with OP gear, did it to my lvl 54 marks with all armor bad/v bad to pierce.
Then when he lost he tried to claim I did an unfair pvp because he wasn't ready but he buffed and started running at me and continued to fight after I hit him. If he wasn't ready he should have stopped and I would have stopped.
He is a cocky dumbass that thinks he is the greatest hunter ever and nobody could beat him. Underestimated me and got anally raped and then came to cry about it on here.
Sore loser ftw. He isn't that good. Any hunter can use confuse 5 on an unbuffed player and kite them. He has done 0 things to show he is good. I know you are his butt buddy but, get off his dick
Edit: Also, I know that he recorded it so that if he won he could come on here and brag. I like how he wouldn't post the video for everyone to see. And if he did show me the link.
Just fight him again if you are so sure about yourself..
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 08:27 PM
I think your and my standars of whats a good player are way apart of each other.
Just fight him again if you are so sure about yourself..
Yea, your standards are, If they show a little bit of skill or are good, they must be a god and nobody could ever beat them...ever ever ever ever
My standards are realistic, if they are good they are good, but they can be beaten and there are players better.
I don't need to. It is a waste of time.
Here are some videos of people that thought they could beat me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ogcoW8JVVo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=camrGgaZ-B8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vef8tiDwctM
Problem? :play_ball:
You never answered me as to why he never uploaded the video. He claimed I cheated and had the video but wouldn't upload it as proof, I wonder why :rolleyes:
_Enio_
11-05-2011, 08:37 PM
[...] Perhaps I worded it wrong, but my point was regarding people who have egos over PvP, of course if you set yourself up for PvP, catch people unaware, catch people grinding or whatever, it's quite obvious you already have the upper hand. In this sense, PvP proves nothing, unless the primary focus of this game was PvP. Because the primary focus is RvR, majority of people are set up for fort wars or large battles.
Fully agree.
Kinda same topic:
Haha well it seems always the same. Thats a huge reason why i prefer to 1. only pvp on amun and 2. only with selected people from which i know they understand the value of PvP correctly.
IMHO:
Theres no consistent 1v1 balance. It greatly varies between classes, configurations, settings. Set up PvP allows you to try out your general config in various set up situations.
I.E. it allows you to develop tactics *for your build and for a similar situation in war*, teaches you to automate actions and reactions so you can concentrate better for other thoughts, be it broader tactical decisions, watching surroundings and allies actions and make on-the-fly adjustments.
Its a sandbox and it can be big fun when you do it with friends who grasp this. When you discuss and give tips helping eachother to understand better and develop. By pointing out flaws you can learn to get around them, by pointing out particular strengths you can learn to not let them happen on your opponent side.
Its kind of like sparring in boxing. For me it loses its use when you make it "competitive". It doesnt work out to be fun with people who grow their ego on that. They totally miss the point.
I miss skipio for that matter. That awesome fun barb who i had endless pvp on amun at some point, back when it was quite a task to 100% win vs em as marks with mediocre gear. These friendly PvP made me a better player - not a PvPer, because it allowd me to understand the small scale to embed into the big scale of usual RvR and class interaction. The whole metagame you start to see once you know evry move of evry class for its own, which allows you to find the better RvR config for your needs and develop broader scale tactics all started for me in friendly and constructive set up PvP.
So in this spirit - go PvP as much as you can - but only with the right people as its really not fun with the wrong ones and not really helpful either.
esp_tupac
11-05-2011, 08:46 PM
Although I disagree with Van, I think heph is a very good lock (at pvp at least, never really seen him at a fort), Van is one of the best players to play on horus and possibly the game. He is one of the best lock, conj I have fought with or against and good at marks, knight, and hunter as well. I have never seen him play barb though.
Some of his vids from Raven
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLd7NF-lf3A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpgO9QDDhZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyMOrmfJW0
(ignore the editing) :p
As much as I love Heph, if I were to choose a team mate, Van > Heph.
you guys are talking like pvp is so easy and if u have a warlock you would own everybody? also why does ppl tend to think i don't play fort war? it's just that i might have a different timezone than u guys.
exactly what personal quality of Van as a warlock makes him a better player than me? from looking at your responses you don't even know me and all of you mainly play Raven Ignis now. anyway, here is a RvR video of me from a month ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es2SM2fWNg
my setup works both in RvR and PvP with more emphasis on the PvR side cuz i hunt a lot when there is not lot of ppl online. maybe i lacked the so called situational awareness... see for urself.
and who the hell started this post...this topic tend to get out of hand. most ppl are just jealous cuz they can't do what other ppl do and i have learned to grow a thick skin for critisism hehe just realized ive been talking to the walls for all these time wow
Psynocide
11-05-2011, 08:54 PM
If you were a moderator, you would be a bad moderator. Just because you don't agree with the things that are being discussed here doesn't give you any valid reason to silence people. By closing this thread you're forbidding them to voice their personal opinions.
They're entitle to voice their opinion - and frequently do - just as long as it's out of sight and don't expect others to take them seriously, consideration is limited stock these days.
NotScias
11-05-2011, 09:17 PM
The one thing all these warlocks lack, is modesty... and the ability to write in paragraphs.
+1
Why is it so important for some people to know who's pissing the furthest?
Why does every thread involving the same few people needs to turn into a ego buffing and mud throwing contest?
Can't you just put your respective ego's aside and stop to destroy every goddamn topic?
Can't you just play the game for the sake of the fun?
Really this useless lock-skillz-comparison trend is getting irritating, especially when based on personal and broken views of "skill"...
tjanex
11-05-2011, 09:20 PM
In that sense, yes, it is useful. I do agree about situation awareness, positioning and timing however, my shield bash after knock was perfected in PvP.
I wouldn't say it's perfect for training your mechanics, but it certainly would help with understanding the classes, I agree. At the end of the day however, a PvP setup will differ from an RvR setup. PvP setups in most cases would not include ally/area buffs or support spells for example, or area attacks (except maybe lightning arrow/caltrops).
Perhaps I worded it wrong, but my point was regarding people who have egos over PvP, of course if you set yourself up for PvP, catch people unaware, catch people grinding or whatever, it's quite obvious you already have the upper hand. In this sense, PvP proves nothing, unless the primary focus of this game was PvP. Because the primary focus is RvR, majority of people are set up for fort wars or large battles.
I think that PvP does show some quality in timing and how well you know the spells you use. Though I also think that a PvP is mostly luck. If Ambush has been resisted and in your tactics Ambush if the foundation... You are pretty much screwed.
Also I think PvP doesn't particullary has to mean that you buff before you engage, I think its a fair PvP if a Hunter comes from nowhere without the enemy did any buffs at all, since Hunter is able to do such things, why would Hunter engage a Marksman that is fully buffed anyways?
This topic doesn't make sense. Why everyone wants to PvP to show they are better than anyone else anyways. You know if you win, the other says he was lagging or something. Or then you say, again, and your opponent doesnt come. For me PvP is also the ability to fight in any condition. ;)
TheMessenger
11-05-2011, 09:32 PM
you guys are talking like pvp is so easy and if u have a warlock you would own everybody? also why does ppl tend to think i don't play fort war? it's just that i might have a different timezone than u guys.
I am a decent lock, imo, but really not that good. It isn't my main class so meh. When I played Horus you almost never played at forts, we use to always hunt.
exactly what personal quality of Van as a warlock makes him a better player than me? from looking at your responses you don't even know me and all of you mainly play Raven Ignis now. anyway, here is a RvR video of me from a month ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1es2SM2fWNg
my setup works both in RvR and PvP with more emphasis on the PvR side cuz i hunt a lot when there is not lot of ppl online. maybe i lacked the so called situational awareness... see for urself.
I don't know you? I am Blue Power Ranger. Pretty sure I know you better than most of the others on here and that includes Torcida. I didn't say he was a better lock, I said he was a better player, as in, he can play the other classes better than you. For lock, if it was a small group fight or a hunt I would choose you, at a fort fight like on Raven, I would choose Van.
Bold
tenchar
6 pages of complete nonsense \o/
Mattdoesrock
11-05-2011, 10:33 PM
How the hell do people play in 800x600? I have no idea.
EDIT: Also, awful music.
boert_crandal
11-05-2011, 11:32 PM
Dude wtf are you talking ? nice first post ; ''calling someone n00b''. Don't call people ''n00b'' if they play longer than you.
Edit : I will fix your sign ; ''People like me should be banned, imo''
lol someones upset.
blood-raven
11-05-2011, 11:45 PM
You know what?
All locks suck.
You know why?
Cause i'm a motha f*cking marks that's why.
Yall die like b*tches before my Op range, BoW and ninja powers.
I spank yo ass with ya pvp "skillz".
I whipe ma ass with ya cc's cauz i got sotw beatch.
Just the sigth of me makes yo pee your skirt and hugh a tree like a b*tch.
Your ego counts for sh*t when you're up against ma range 52 dizzy.
I punch yo staff trough ya mouth with ma own cc's.
And yo b*tches can't do a f*ck about it.
A eat yo alive fo breakfast.
/end garbage thread with garbage post i'll prolly get banned for it but damn its worth it.
The_Krome_Dragon
11-06-2011, 04:23 AM
Fear the ego thread betw the SQUISHIESxD
In that sense, yes, it is useful. I do agree about situation awareness, positioning and timing however, my shield bash after knock was perfected in PvP.
I wouldn't say it's perfect for training your mechanics, but it certainly would help with understanding the classes, I agree. At the end of the day however, a PvP setup will differ from an RvR setup. PvP setups in most cases would not include ally/area buffs or support spells for example, or area attacks (except maybe lightning arrow/caltrops).
Perhaps I worded it wrong, but my point was regarding people who have egos over PvP, of course if you set yourself up for PvP, catch people unaware, catch people grinding or whatever, it's quite obvious you already have the upper hand. In this sense, PvP proves nothing, unless the primary focus of this game was PvP. Because the primary focus is RvR, majority of people are set up for fort wars or large battles.
Yes. However, PvP training may help in 1vs1 situations.
I'm very bad at PvP (i rarely do such) and i lost many times in 1vs1 because of this.
And if PvP is about to judge skills, then it should be made between chars with same setup, subclass and items to prove anything (and i never saw this).
Raindance
11-06-2011, 11:36 AM
Woah wait, so if all I do is make a couple videos of me killing some people and post 'em on youtube I'll be a good player? Someone PM a good recording program ASAP! Can't wait to get up on that high horse, I'm so excited. :cuac:
isgandarli
11-06-2011, 02:59 PM
I'm very bad at PvP (i rarely do such) and i lost many times in 1vs1 because of this.
You should think that you can win only because of other people that stands near you. Anyway now I know exactly that you're not running alone because of lacking skills for that.
Llayne
11-06-2011, 03:31 PM
... I have never seen him play barb though.
I've seen him play barb. ^^
Like he said... best player eva. *wink winks*
time-to-die
11-06-2011, 03:32 PM
I spank yo ass
Sounds naughty mate :D
Psynocide
11-06-2011, 03:52 PM
You should think that you can win only because of other people that stands near you. Anyway now I know exactly that you're not running alone because of lacking skills for that.
Heaven forbid someone play this RvR game co-operatively.
esp_tupac
11-06-2011, 04:00 PM
Woah wait, so if all I do is make a couple videos of me killing some people and post 'em on youtube I'll be a good player? Someone PM a good recording program ASAP! Can't wait to get up on that high horse, I'm so excited. :cuac:
it's not about killing ppl on youtube it's not about who you kill. it's about how u kill. making gameplay videos don't make anybody better than others. it's how you play in the first person view that shows how good you are. what a noob...you just don't get it
Archonaut
11-06-2011, 06:16 PM
There's only 1 thing worse than people who think they're better than everyone and keep hugging their Ego in this thread.. And that's the people who post a ''mean to be funny'' comment and then say: CLOSE THIS THREAD, BS ABOVE, CLOSE.. Seriously? Is it so hard to not click the damn thread?
As if the choice is up to you.. God... I hope that the people who did this know I'm talking about them.
On Topic, or actually off topic.. Anyway this is The Inn so who cares ;p
I know it wasn't Lightningg and something tells me it probably is someone from Ra..
Raindance
11-06-2011, 06:33 PM
it's not about killing ppl on youtube it's not about who you kill. it's about how u kill. making gameplay videos don't make anybody better than others. it's how you play in the first person view that shows how good you are. what a noob...you just don't get it
If you want to give somebody advice on how to play, you should throw out your childish language and get more serious. Just because you are who you are and have gotten to the position you have gotten to, doesn't mean you have the right to call people you completely don't know noobs or shove your elitist logic in peoples faces which you do numerously whenever I see you.
Judging by how things have flown by in this thread, it's quite possible you even started this thread just to enlarge your ego. And I have no reason to garbage up this thread any longer, you can contact me privately if you still feel angry.
VandaMan
11-06-2011, 06:59 PM
it's how you play in the first person view that shows how good you are. what a noob...you just don't get it
What does first person view have to do with how good you are? The only difference is you can see them handling their GUI, which is only a means to an end. Some people click their spells, some use the keyboard, some scroll between hotbars and some flip with f1-f4... but does it really matter if it's indistinguishable on the other side of the screen? What you do is infinitely more important than how you do it.
tjanex
11-06-2011, 07:19 PM
There's only 1 thing worse than people who think they're better than everyone and keep hugging their Ego in this thread.. And that's the people who post a ''mean to be funny'' comment and then say: CLOSE THIS THREAD, BS ABOVE, CLOSE.. Seriously? Is it so hard to not click the damn thread?
As if the choice is up to you.. God... I hope that the people who did this know I'm talking about them.
On Topic, or actually off topic.. Anyway this is The Inn so who cares ;p
I know it wasn't Lightningg and something tells me it probably is someone from Ra..
Nah, persons with big ego's are much worse than people that think they are funny. Just like saying it wasn't Lightningg because he says it didnt. Well idc who made this thread, but this discussion leads no where.
Ulti19
11-06-2011, 07:29 PM
I call your research and development bullshit because there is no research and development. It's not some kind of science, and there's no "best way" to play. What kind of "research" are you even talking about, you went to your local library to read up on warlocks?
.
I jus stumbled on this thread, that post made my day Van xD
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Seriously though. There is no best in pvp especially not in this game. Sometimes you will win, sometimes you will lose, there's no going around that. You can be the fastest clicker of a mouse or whatever lol and you will get ms'd one day and get horribly owned:p
This game is alot like rock paper scissors with the classes and setups and the amount of resist and evades makes pvp a joke. Though some players win more than others, I still consider pvp to not say who is better than who. When I win I just consider myself lucky in that fight, like knocking another through defensive or something like opponents ms failing on me.
If people wanna be the best pvp player in something, go play smash brothers with all the items turned off or something, pure skill wins there xD
Archonaut
11-06-2011, 07:44 PM
Nah, persons with big ego's are much worse than people that think they are funny. Just like saying it wasn't Lightningg because he says it didnt. Well idc who made this thread, but this discussion leads no where.
No, even though I don't agree with both of them.. They're actually discussing, that's what you freakin' do on a Forum! Saying it has to be closed because YOU don't like the thread? Is it just me or is that the biggest BS ever..
And I ofcourse can't know for sure it wasn't Lightningg but if it was he would've probably haven't (double denial -__-) reacted that heavily. Just Sayin'
My opinions.
Discussion here = almost pointless
Locks I would like to kill? = Any that is not on the red team. Can't pick any 3, they can all be irritating at times.
Will I be successful? = in PvP probably not.
In RvR? = Couldn't care less, the conjurer is the target along with keeping barbs occupied. If a lock gets in the crossfire so be it.
Who is better or best? = Irrelevant to me because I play for fun.
gameplay videos = I watch solely for entertainment purpose. Videos are cherry picked so why watch for any other reason?
Can I judge who is best? = Don't care, RO is not a career so it doesn't matter.
Should others care? = Maybe, but it is just a freaking game. Relax and learn modesty. Play the game in the spirit of fun and not a job and maybe these threads will never go this route.
PvP = simply a component of the game and if players want to specialise I have no issue with it. What I have issue is the overemphasising of it like it the the defining facet or focus of the game. It is not marketed as such. Play your Regnum your way and let others play their Regnum and don't judge. Importantly, don't depreciate what others do or how others play, it is just poor form and lacks taste. If you disagree with others play style and your opinion impinges on their rights in the game just keep it to yourself.
The game? = A medieval MMO RvR game. This is what it is marketed as and this is what I play. I am not skilled for PvP, never trained for it and as such don't entertain my self with it. If it entertains others it is your right to play that way. What is not right is to come on the forums arguing about who is best when the fact is that there are so many variables to count there is actually no definitive way to know who is best in all conditions. In any case why does it even matter? Aren't we here to have fun?
Okay you are the best , then what ? NGD for goodness sake make some medals like the ones military coup leaders and buffoon leaders wear and give em out. Sell them if you must. Maybe it will put an end to this foolishness.
Gabburtjuh
11-06-2011, 08:47 PM
I like to kill any lock cuz I like seeing 1,8k SCs in my logg?
Eloyente
11-06-2011, 11:42 PM
havent been killed by any lock in what i consider a spectacular way lately, im either ganked by more than 2 who resist ambush and ds which i find just terrific or by some random dude who gets through sotw.
aint that fun? :D
esp_tupac
11-07-2011, 12:38 AM
Judging by how things have flown by in this thread, it's quite possible you even started this thread just to enlarge your ego. And I have no reason to garbage up this thread any longer, you can contact me privately if you still feel angry.
how can you even think that i started this thread to enlarge my ego? that's outragous...the only reason i wrote something in here is because i find some of the postings very offensive and felt the need to express myself. im not angry with you tbh im angry with the dude who started this thread. This topic is meant to start a flamewar where ppl throw mud at each other. i never would want that to happen...sigh wish i never saw this thread now i felt like a escapegoat everybody is blaming shit on me :(
VandaMan
11-07-2011, 01:39 AM
i felt like a escapegoat
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tzHf5sSX8MI/SOfwgs2-qbI/AAAAAAAAADM/947PNemV3HY/s400/Cartoon+-+Escape+Goat.jpg
tjanex
11-07-2011, 03:34 PM
how can you even think that i started this thread to enlarge my ego? that's outragous...the only reason i wrote something in here is because i find some of the postings very offensive and felt the need to express myself. im not angry with you tbh im angry with the dude who started this thread. This topic is meant to start a flamewar where ppl throw mud at each other. i never would want that to happen...sigh wish i never saw this thread now i felt like a escapegoat everybody is blaming shit on me :(
Why post if you saw that this topic is meant to start a flamewar...
Torcida
11-08-2011, 09:28 AM
Somehow it are always the people who get completely destroyed by me in PvP who later go on forum and say PvP is bullshit and too much based on luck and gear and stuff. Marksmen is the class which depends most on gear, You guys know I liek Mudkipz he has many videos of him wearing lvl 4 fur armor, Yes lvl 4 fur armor and still absolutely kicking ass.
DkySven
11-08-2011, 10:42 AM
I remember I liek Mudkipz from Ra, I thought that was you.
Pwnography
11-08-2011, 10:53 AM
I remember I liek Mudkipz from Ra, I thought that was you.
I liek mudkipz = Alenox, dont know if that helps ^^
Torcida
11-08-2011, 11:07 AM
I remember I liek Mudkipz from Ra, I thought that was you.
No man you don't remember me that awfully annoying troll back in Tyr? :O I mean im bad now but back then I was absolutely badass when it comes down to trolling XD
Anyway no I am this guy; http://www.youtube.com/user/ClanImmolation?feature=mhee
DkySven
11-08-2011, 11:18 AM
Ah yes of course xD Sorry. It has been some time.
PT_DaAr_PT
11-08-2011, 02:47 PM
Anyway no I am this guy; http://www.youtube.com/user/ClanImmolation?feature=mhee
tip: deselect Repeat Background and use this #233043 as background color.
SirHiss
11-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Well if i can choose among everyone.
First we got this damn lock named Mjollinir, like many have posted before.. Hepha! and third one would be Van or Fuerst i think.
Ptitours
11-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Ok heres my list with the locks I would kill:
1)tsuku(My hero)
2)Falco
3)Haphaestus
Ok heres my list with the locks I would kill:
1)tsuku(My hero)
2)Falco
3)Haphaestus
Is Tsuku still playing ? Didn't see him since ages.
Falco is very rarely on nowadays (player is still active though ;)
Hephaestus is a challenging target, especially in PvP :)
Mine:
1) La Druga, cause i hate (and ate too much) Darkness xD
2) Faleh (he deserves it, he killed too much people) :angel1:
3) any ignis warlock (because they are too rare, RP have twice value)
Tsuku is training more on necromancy. Hint hint - he studies medicine. I suppose he is too busy to play. Maybe he found some lock chick there too. :D
I want to kill all warlocks...grmbl darkness grmbl...
n1ghtchill
11-27-2011, 12:16 PM
i'll agree with enio on his statement that you can't tell apart good and noob lock anymore, furthermore i'd expand it to any class since cash items play a huge role in regnum for years now, breaking the balance and as a result fixing something that was not broken.
oh and as for warlock to kill, i remember fuerst, helsing, vroek was fun to playing against. if i was in another realm, i'd have to say i'd kill me first since my awesome level is just through the roof.
edit: to the nonny red karma giver (which i suspect to be znurre), at least sign it. plus, i'm not arrogant. i'm just realistic.
71175
11-27-2011, 12:33 PM
ehm.......
THough Enio right but
1. Zepharoth for being wannabe gestern
2. Wictorio for silence 5 and darkness 4 -.-
3. Surfy for gears xD
Archonaut
11-27-2011, 01:22 PM
ehm.......
THough Enio right but
1. Zepharoth for being wannabe gestern
2. Wictorio for silence 5 and darkness 4 -.-
3. Surfy for gears xD
I swear, you're NSer...
PT_DaAr_PT
11-27-2011, 02:17 PM
ehm.......
THough Enio right but
1. Zepharoth for being wannabe gestern
2. Wictorio for silence 5 and darkness 4 -.-
3. Surfy for gears xD
__________________
Being Noob=winning enemy with same numbers
Being Pro=runnin away from same numbers
(c) Gelfs.
I swear, you're NSer...
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1826/spewcoffee.jpg
Seriously, I'm surprised I didn't notice.
Ptitours
12-10-2011, 10:00 AM
okey let's start a new theard "Which Top 3 barbrs would you want to kill"
HERE WE GO ! 3 2 1 FIGHT!!!!!:facepalm3:
Eloyente
12-10-2011, 10:52 AM
me, myself and I
Hollow_Ichigo
12-10-2011, 04:48 PM
tigerious, tigerious and tigerious :play_ball:
71175
12-10-2011, 05:01 PM
tigerious, tigerious and tigerious :play_ball:
+1 ten chars
tigerious, tigerious and tigerious :play_ball:
Be serious please, he said "Top 3".
Tigerious
12-10-2011, 05:32 PM
I'll start to think about creating a fanclub :]
71175
12-10-2011, 05:47 PM
I'll start to think about creating a tbagclub :]
fixed, sry :P
Why do you all hate Tigerious that much, it's not like he's a good player? :o
71175
12-10-2011, 07:50 PM
Why do you all hate Tigerious that much, it's not like he's a good player? :o
if we hate someone then someone is better than haters in something:. for Tiger this looks so: everyone hates Tiger cause he is better at zerging grinders xD
_Emin_
12-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Why do you all hate Tigerious that much, it's not like he's a good player? :o
I think no one likes barb xD
Why do you all hate Tigerious that much, it's not like he's a good player? :o
LoL.. good player? He never was, never will be. Most hate him for his douchebaggery, he is one of the worst teething immature douches one would find online, with a righteous face on the forums to cover up for his doucheness in actual gameplay.
NotScias
12-11-2011, 12:25 AM
okey let's start a new theard "Which Top 3 barbrs would you want to kill"
HERE WE GO ! 3 2 1 FIGHT!!!!!:facepalm3:
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Alert!! Sarcasm detected!!!1!
Archonaut
12-11-2011, 09:40 AM
Come on guys, this looks like high school... How old are you all -_-
If he wants to T-Bag people, let him do so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
LEAVE Tigerious Alone!! :'(
For real, it's getting old guys.
Torcida
12-11-2011, 10:13 AM
LoL.. good player? He never was, never will be. Most hate him for his douchebaggery, he is one of the worst teething immature douches one would find online, with a righteous face on the forums to cover up for his doucheness in actual gameplay.
Are you having your period or something...? Relax its just a game... Its not like you Never ganked someone.
71175
12-11-2011, 10:16 AM
Never ganked someone.
how bad that this game can't live without ganking grinders by players 10 lvls higher :P-.-
Archonaut
12-11-2011, 10:30 AM
how bad that this game can't live without ganking grinders by players 10 lvls higher :P-.-
Pretty normal actually, name me one game where the term ''ganking'' isn't familiar..
Right.. None.
Liamix
12-27-2011, 03:41 PM
Im From Ra, This Count Whatshisface Dude From CBA Impossible 2 kill:rale:
tjanex
12-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Im From Ra, This Count Whatshisface Dude From CBA Impossible 2 kill:rale:
Wtf are you asslicker of Piz?
Archonaut
12-27-2011, 05:29 PM
Wtf are you asslicker of Piz?
Lol cmon he just started reading the comic and prolly started playing the game.. Don't be so harsh. And yes, Count was a really nice lock from what I remember.
tjanex
12-29-2011, 03:45 PM
Lol cmon he just started reading the comic and prolly started playing the game.. Don't be so harsh. And yes, Count was a really nice lock from what I remember.
Lol every post he made he says something about piz's comic, he's just an asslicker, and thats the way I treat him :)
Psynocide
12-29-2011, 08:16 PM
This story just got cold, bro.
_Enio_
12-30-2011, 09:34 AM
piz's comic
is awesome. Stfu. ;)
Frosk
12-30-2011, 02:09 PM
Lol every post he made he says something about piz's comic, he's just an asslicker, and thats the way I treat him :)
If you got a problem with that user and his comments, please let him know respectfully via pm.
There's no need to actually call him that publicly, except if looking to get banned it's your goal.
Regards.
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