Message to Syrtis WM's

[isgandarli]

Please try to fight at forts/castles captured by you till the end. As soon as door HP goes below 50% you WM's port all your forces away. I'm adressing it to Syrtis WM's exactly, because they do it more often than Ignis and Alsius does. I hope that in near future (2975-2980 year approximately) NGD will forbid creation of ports inside of forts and castles. Amen :)

[blood-raven]

Actually i never did this, but now i might just to piss u off.
Mad?

[uncreative]

you mad?: Clapclap:

[Psynocide]

People will do as they please - even more so now that there's incentive to potentially piss people off.

Personally I've only seen this tactic utilized once in the past several months and we did so (I did not personally cast the portal) because the majority of our group died and only a warlock, knight and marksmen were left to defend against an entire zerg.
Herbred had been recently taken by Ignis so we decided to hasten the inevitable and teleport instead of providing some realm points for the opposition.

Perhaps an unsporting move but there you have it.

[Awrath]

Completely agree with OP. It's a lame tactic, and NGD should forbid portal creation within the vicinity of a fort. If they can do it with duel banners, I'm sure they can do it with teleports.

People care too much about the lines of code that make their character or indeed RP, both of which are hardly that important. As I have said before, the only useful statistic RP shows is how much time you have put into the game. It is little indication of skill level.

All this teleporting to escape is not really a great demonstration of a "Warmaster". The failmaster saga continues.

[ufkn]

Run'dor and Leakerr does not agree.

[_Enio_]

I do it whenever i can. Given therell be no enjoyable figt after the door goes down. Not that i like that kind of play but well, WM stuff is a mess anyways. If i were being asked: Get rid of it, altogether.

[tjanex]

I also agree with the OP, I think you mean Samal? Yes people teleported away from there I won't call names but I do not agree to always say some specific Realm. Since Alsius and Ignis do it as well, though you may not notice it. Try to just say Message to Wm's in the title. This can cause flamewars of Syrtians that have a to big ego to tell they were wrong.

[blood-raven]

How are these 'blame syrtis' threads popular again?
Even tough u are right, this should not be possible, you just blame syrtis in a 'hollier then tough'-thread.
Are u really that ignorant?
I PLAY in syrtis and rarely see this.
I saw alsius do this way more, maybe i should start a thread now too.
Also, you refere to 1 occasion and just assume it happens all the time.

Since we're in the blaming buisness, ignis should be banned cause of the grinder ganking at sh and pretty much everywhere else.

[71175]

How are these 'blame syrtis' threads popular again?
Even tough u are right, this should not be possible, you just blame syrtis in a 'hollier then tough'-thread.
Are u really do ignorant?
I PLAY in syrtis and rarely see this.
I saw alsius do this way more, maybe i should start a thread now too.
Also, you refere to 1 occasion and just assume it happens all the time.

Since we're in the blaming buisness, ignis should be banned cause of the grinder ganking at sh and pretty much everywhere else.

/me sees that kind of behavior each samal farm with 20 gelfs in fort which is (SUDDENLY) lvl4 and port to central save right after door.

[blood-raven]

I see the same when goats took alga and we're attacking it or when we attack aggers and there is goat wm in it or when we tracked some goats and went after them we only found a teleport.
And tbh, if this really happens a lot, syrtis has changed a lot.
Non the less, there are retards in every realm not just syrtis.

[71175]

there are retards in every realm not just syrtis.
This +1
:closed1:

[Gabburtjuh]

Non the less, there are retards in every realm not just syrtis.

Syrtis just has most players so a bigger chance on retards, and for some reason the most lame tactic players to, then again, alsius has most noobish players and ignis most "omg I r hardcore gamer" players, every realm his thing, stop with the noobish hate threads, will lead to closing anyway

[time-to-die]

Syrtis just has most players

Dont say that 2 fast.

[ieti]

Just blame Syrtis for everything...

Yesterday goats was at PB1 for dunno what reason. First time they killed us and fight was very nice. Second time we got there we saw just a blue teleport to CS. Why they left?

[time-to-die]

they left?

Because they can and we gelfs cant because than we are pussys

[lunedor]

I'm surprised that this thread comes back with someone I've seen escaping 100 times from forts or battles. :clapclap:

What you want to tell us is that it's morally acceptable to kill each other and not morally acceptable to escape from a lost battle ?

When you're killed in the game, you suffer no pain, lose no money or objects, and you respawn at your cs ready to continue the game. No courage is involved here. So, if you decide to stand in front of the ennemies at the end of the battle, it's not that you are courageous, but that you want others think you are. Thus, you're just doing your own propaganda.

In a standard fight (defending gate or trying to avoid your gate to be vulnerable are special fights), if you are on the losing side and if you manage to constantly have a look about what happens, there are always some seconds where you have to decide if you will give to a 3-buttons barb the pleasure to kill you or if you try to escape.

About fort wars, I'd like to see more often people jumping the walls when the door breaks, because a small group retreating chased bye a splitted zerg is a good moment of this game.

At least, I understand that it's more important for teenagers to comply with the expectations of the group than to use their brain. :angel2:

[Ulti19]

I'm surprised that this thread comes back with someone I've seen escaping 100 times from forts or battles. :clapclap:

What you want to tell us is that it's morally acceptable to kill each other and not morally acceptable to escape from a lost battle ?

When you're killed in the game, you suffer no pain, lose no money or objects, and you respawn at your cs ready to continue the game. No courage is involved here. So, if you decide to stand in front of the ennemies at the end of the battle, it's not that you are courageous, but that you want others think you are. Thus, you're just doing your own propaganda.

In a standard fight (defending gate or trying to avoid your gate to be vulnerable are special fights), if you are on the losing side and if you manage to constantly have a look about what happens, there are always some seconds where you have to decide if you will give to a 3-buttons barb the pleasure to kill you or if you try to escape.

About fort wars, I'd like to see more often people jumping the walls when the door breaks, because a small group retreating chased bye a splitted zerg is a good moment of this game.

At least, I understand that it's more important for teenagers to comply with the expectations of the group than to use their brain. :angel2:


Nice post :) plus 1

when someone runs in this game ppl critic that player, when someone uses kick 5 that player is again noted, when someone uses their brain to outperform some odds people think they play cheap or something.. it's a game, get used to it. I doubt if a guy with a machine gun broke into your house ud stand near the front door letting him do what he wants to you:p and those of us who do stay at ends of fights, well for some it's really just how long it can take to take us down, it's pretty fun. But i find making a thread for people who ran away safely and attacking them is a joke lol.

[isgandarli]

I'm surprised that this thread comes back with someone I've seen escaping 100 times from forts or battles. :clapclap:


Hate me baby <3

[Tigerious]

This give me a good reason to create more retreat teleporters :]
Thank you very much to show us how you are pissed :]
Complain more, we love it !
Did you ever plan to make a barbarian ? :}

[isgandarli]

This give me a good reason to create more retreat teleporters :]
Thank you very much to show us how you are pissed :]
Complain more, we love it !
Did you ever plan to make a barbarian ? :}

Man, I love this poor troll too <3

[VeterKh]

gelfs have more active players...oh... sry... scared WM's players :thumb_down:
just do it :clapclap:

[Psynocide]

scared WM's players

This is the satisfaction gleaned from doing so, it's obviously an effective method.
Delicious.

[Southbound]

What you want to tell us is that it's morally acceptable to kill each other and not morally acceptable to escape from a lost battle ?


Ehm... WOW! :facepalm3:

I will break it down for you, to make it easier for you to understand:
You are not playing vs bots. You are playing vs REAL ppl who also, JUST like you are trying to have fun and enjoy the game.

Now just at least TRY to imagine being killed, over and over, repetedly for 15-20 min.
(I understand this alone isnt easy for you to comprehend, but at least TRY)

Now, finally! After 15 minutes of dying, dying and dying... You FINALLY get enough ppl logged on to at least push your opponent back a bit and back into the fort.

So now you first have to kill some easy (and plain boring) NPC guards. You, finally get the door down! And what do you see?:

A blue teleport and MORE EASY, BORING NPC GUARDS!
After this, over half your force goes back to their grinding (since most of them were only there to begin with: to help their clanmates cries for help)

REcap:
Die die die (for 15 min straight, yes... with some auraspamming you can, if your lucky see the occasional 3 rp in your log)
Kill some easy NPC:s
*door breaks*
Kill some more easy NPC:s

Does this sound fun?
If this is what new players are faced with after finally made it to the WZ: HOW are we ever gonna keep Horus growing? This: "If I cant win, I wont play"- attitude is just sickening.
It wouldnt matter what NGD does. If players aren't willing to GIVE AND TAKE, we are just screwed

And seeing posts like: "Oh it pisses you off? I will do it MOAR!!!111" is honestly so foreign to me that I don't even know how to respond to it.
People are actually more concerned of what other ppl think, then actually playing(=waring/enjoying) the game itself? Sorry, thats another :facepalm3:


This of course isnt all just towards you lune, it goes for everyone, regardless of realmbelonging. But your obvious misunderstanding and inability to put yourself in op:s shoes made me react

/Drunken Regards :happybday:

[Kitsuni]

Just blame Syrtis for everything...

Yesterday goats was at PB1 for dunno what reason. First time they killed us and fight was very nice. Second time we got there we saw just a blue teleport to CS. Why they left?
Agger got attacked.

[Psynocide]

To many outstretched index fingers.

[standistortion]

Ehm... WOW! :facepalm3:
What he said.

[Tigerious]

Ehm... WOW! :facepalm3:

I will break it down for you, to make it easier for you to understand:
You are not playing vs bots. You are playing vs REAL ppl who also, JUST like you are trying to have fun and enjoy the game.

Now just at least TRY to imagine being killed, over and over, repetedly for 15-20 min.
(I understand this alone isnt easy for you to comprehend, but at least TRY)

Now, finally! After 15 minutes of dying, dying and dying... You FINALLY get enough ppl logged on to at least push your opponent back a bit and back into the fort.

So now you first have to kill some easy (and plain boring) NPC guards. You, finally get the door down! And what do you see?:

A blue teleport and MORE EASY, BORING NPC GUARDS!
After this, over half your force goes back to their grinding (since most of them were only there to begin with: to help their clanmates cries for help)

REcap:
Die die die (for 15 min straight, yes... with some auraspamming you can, if your lucky see the occasional 3 rp in your log)
Kill some easy NPC:s
*door breaks*
Kill some more easy NPC:s

Does this sound fun?
If this is what new players are faced with after finally made it to the WZ: HOW are we ever gonna keep Horus growing? This: "If I cant win, I wont play"- attitude is just sickening.
It wouldnt matter what NGD does. If players aren't willing to GIVE AND TAKE, we are just screwed

And seeing posts like: "Oh it pisses you off? I will do it MOAR!!!111" is honestly so foreign to me that I don't even know how to respond to it.
People are actually more concerned of what other ppl think, then actually playing(=waring/enjoying) the game itself? Sorry, thats another :facepalm3:


This of course isnt all just towards you lune, it goes for everyone, regardless of realmbelonging. But your obvious misunderstanding and inability to put yourself in op:s shoes made me react

/Drunken Regards :happybday:

I have an other point of view :

"They pissed us damnit, let's go revenge to Herbred fort ! Regroup at bridge ! Let's make a damn battle !"

Curiously like alsians you have troubles to come to our main fort. I think you have to train your people to move their butt out of their central save/main fort.

We syrtians, keep going to camped main enemy forts even if they are almost all the time level 4 with a Guard Captain. What we can see frequently is that in case of we going to the secondary fort (mainly Trelleborg fort, thanks NGD to modifiy offensive teleporter, now we are just lazy to go Menirah fort...), YOU guys go to the main Alsius fort because you know they are figthing us at the other one. Like I said in the past, Ignietan have to change phiilosophy at least, on Horus.

[_Kharbon_]

We syrtians, keep going to camped main enemy forts even if they are almost all the time level 4 with a Guard Captain. What we can see frequently is that in case of we going to the secondary fort (mainly Trelleborg fort, thanks NGD to modifiy offensive teleporter, now we are just lazy to go Menirah fort...), YOU guys go to the main Alsius fort because you know they are figthing us at the other one. Like I said in the past, Ignietan have to change phiilosophy at least, on Horus.

Maybe we don't go to Trelle for the same reason you don't go to Meni..? It's too far for us? :facepalm3:

Please, make more sense next time...

Btw.. what is "ignietan"? New religion?

[Tigerious]

Maybe we don't go to Trelle for the same reason you don't go to Meni..? It's too far for us? :facepalm3:

Please, make more sense next time...

Btw.. what is "ignietan"? New religion?

Yes of course, and how do you explain there was 20 of you at bridge yesterday while we were fighting alsians at Aggersborg fort ? Too far from bridge between Herbre/Aggersborg forts maybe ?
We can also count so much time when you guys avoid Aggersborg when we are defending it and go kill alsians from their orc camp side near the road that go from their central save to their fort.

[standistortion]

Yes of course, and how do you explain there was ABOUT HALF OUR ZERG at bridge yesterday while we were FARMING alsians at Aggersborg fort ? Too SMART TO GET FARMED TOO maybe ?
We can also count so much time when you guys avoid Aggersborg when DOUBLE YOUR NUMBERS are FARMING it and go fight alsians from their orc camp side near the road that go from their central save to their fort.
Corrections in caps.

[_Emin_]

Corrections in caps.

Lmao you made my day xD

[Tigerious]

Corrections in caps.

Actually it isn't FARMING but GRINDING ENEMY and it is necessary to get our low levels realm mates growing to higher ones because you know how long is the grind from lvl 50 to 60 and so boring to kill IDIOTS MOBs and not really SMART ones.
About the number, it isn't DOUBLE but SAME number it's just that some players as we can get in all realms give up to early and let the others one alone being GRINDED by enemy.

Try again ;)

[Archonaut]

Actually it isn't FARMING but GRINDING ENEMY and it is necessary to get our low levels realm mates growing to higher ones because you know how long is the grind from lvl 50 to 60 and so boring to kill IDIOTS MOBs and not really SMART ones.
About the number, it isn't DOUBLE but SAME number it's just that some players as we can get in all realms give up to early and let the others one alone being GRINDED by enemy.

Try again ;)

You really think killing an army which's size is half of yours is really skilled don't you xD Seriously, I don't know if you understand but syrtis has alot more people than alsius. Of course, it's fun to go camp a fort and have a 'godlike' feeling because a group of 15 man (versus your 30 man) can't capture it.. Well, Tiger.. Try joining an other realm maybe someday you WILL understand :)

For now, let's just say your realm has some really nice.. skills.. especially you.. I mean where the hell would Syrtis be without the Upper Mighty Tigerious, Tigeriousin' all over the place.. right?

[Quincebo]

You really think killing an army which's size is half of yours is really skilled don't you xD Seriously, I don't know if you understand but syrtis has alot more people than alsius. Of course, it's fun to go camp a fort and have a 'godlike' feeling because a group of 15 man (versus your 30 man) can't capture it.. Well, Tiger.. Try joining an other realm maybe someday you WILL understand :)

For now, let's just say your realm has some really nice.. skills.. especially you.. I mean where the hell would Syrtis be without the Upper Mighty Tigerious, Tigeriousin' all over the place.. right?

Sorry but i didnt get the joke....
Remember the time you invaded ignis and syrtis several times??...were did those people go??
And be glad we rush, cause if we dont you really dont stand an chance( if i hear your words about numbers)

[Raindance]

Try again ;)

Dude, chill out, you sound so bold as if you wanted a cookie for your utmost righteous counter-posts.

Play the game and don't worry that the (weaker) enemy realms want to be a little more creative (i.e bridge fights) other than the boring ping-pong game play you'd want them to follow along by, because let's face it, you know, that with your numbers, you'd win most of the time.

And don't compare your realms' daily farming to grinding. That's just absurd.

[Archonaut]

Sorry but i didnt get the joke....
Remember the time you invaded ignis and syrtis several times??...were did those people go??
And be glad we rush, cause if we dont you really dont stand an chance( if i hear your words about numbers)

Sorry you didn't get the joke? Well yes, then an apology is the least that you could do..
And are you seriously trying to say that Syrtis and Alsius have the same amount of players? If so, there is no discussing with you... really if you're that ignorant to deny something like a realm's population? How can you deny facts?

[Archonaut]

...because let's face it, you know, that with your numbers, you'd win most of the time.

And don't compare your realms' daily farming to grinding. That's just absurd.

Thank you, 'nuff said

[Awrath]

What people (Syrtians) don't realise is that this constant farming is simply demoralising, they are quick to forget how bad the nightly Ignis farms and invasions were. Ultimately, the solution to this problem is realm balance, a task which falls at the hands of NGD and a task that has proven difficult for as long as I can remember.

So, if you ever see me dancing at your save altar, it's because I got bored of farming.

On topic, yes, teleporting away from a fort is lame especially when you spend hours farming, and the opposing realm gains the upper hand, they do deserve a few kills. I say the same to any Syrtian I see doing it, and I also curse any Alsius/Ignis doing it. I understand what the OP meant.

The solution is simple, do not allow use of teleports within the vicinity of forts and castles. If NGD can do it with duel banners, they can sure as hell do it with teleports.

[Psynocide]

Ultimately, the solution to this problem is realm balance, a task which falls at the hands of NGD and a task that has proven difficult for as long as I can remember.

Impossible more like.

[71175]

What people (Syrtians) don't realise is that this constant farming is simply demoralising, they are quick to forget how bad the nightly Ignis farms and invasions were. Ultimately, the solution to this problem is realm balance, a task which falls at the hands of NGD and a task that has proven difficult for as long as I can remember.

So, if you ever see me dancing at your save altar, it's because I got bored of farming.

On topic, yes, teleporting away from a fort is lame especially when you spend hours farming, and the opposing realm gains the upper hand, they do deserve a few kills. I say the same to any Syrtian I see doing it, and I also curse any Alsius/Ignis doing it. I understand what the OP meant.

The solution is simple, do not allow use of teleports within the vicinity of forts and castles. If NGD can do it with duel banners, they can sure as hell do it with teleports.

+1 tenchar