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TheMessenger
07-01-2012, 12:30 AM
A new show is coming on, or has already aired, on HBO called "The Newsroom". I saw an amazing clip from the show so I'm going to go watch it, but I thought that I should share because of how true and, at least to me, powerful it was - not saying it's the most powerful speech ever or anything, but pretty powerful nonetheless.
Newsroom Speech (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h__uutzcQXc)
Mattdoesrock
07-01-2012, 12:45 AM
I really enjoyed that, thank you.
WhateverUSMC
07-01-2012, 01:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCDZMWVWuc
I have to confess, I used to believe that America was the greatest place on earth, until I started going abroad, came home, and nearly immediately wanted to leave.
Julian_213
07-01-2012, 01:47 AM
America isn't a Country is a continent That is the Right word.
PD: Sorry for my English im learning :)
TheMessenger
07-01-2012, 02:00 AM
America isn't a Country is a continent That is the Right word.
PD: Sorry for my English im learning :)
North America is a continent, South America is a continent, America, when saying just the word, is widely accepted as meaning the United States of America, that's what I've come to gather anyway ^^
Psynocide
07-01-2012, 03:30 AM
Well we knew that.
Pnarpa
07-01-2012, 02:57 PM
Yea! Belgium has freedom!
Archonaut
07-01-2012, 03:52 PM
Yea! Belgium has freedom!
I was waiting for the bastard to say, The Netherlands or maybe even Morocco but nope.. I felt closed out.
As i was younger and we just got the change from communism to democracy and we got tons of problems(we still have tons too) i wanted to go to US and to live in that country. My friends done that, my aunt moved to Canada. And i'm still here in Bulgaria.
I will not move from here and i know i live in a great country. I do not think US is great in any way. EU is alot better than US it terms of freedom and stuff.
Home is where you feel nice and loved. There is no great or worse countries.
TY for this video. It was nice.
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You know sometimes i feel angry for how many people left my country. We was 9mil 20 years ago and now we are around 7. More than a million bulgarians emigrated to US, Canada and other countries. And they still do.
Every damn year US sucks tons of people from other countries with that green card lottery. Well it is not lottery ofc. They choose who to go there.
Greatest country, freedom and stuff. They just wash people's minds. I have saw this already 20 years ago.
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_Emin_
07-01-2012, 04:29 PM
Yea! Belgium has freedom!
Tzzz Everybody knows that Bosnia and the Netherlands are the best.
Hayir
07-01-2012, 04:42 PM
German cabaret artist, shows pretty well how americas politics really is imo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdIkTNnnBFo
long but worth it.
Angel_de_Combate
07-01-2012, 05:21 PM
As i was younger and we just got the change from communism to democracy and we got tons of problems(we still have tons too) i wanted to go to US and to live in that country. My friends done that, my aunt moved to Canada. And i'm still here in Bulgaria.
I will not move from here and i know i live in a great country. I do not think US is great in any way. EU is alot better than US it terms of freedom and stuff.
Home is where you feel nice and loved. There is no great or worse countries.
TY for this video. It was nice.
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You know sometimes i feel angry for how many people left my country. We was 9mil 20 years ago and now we are around 7. More than a million bulgarians emigrated to US, Canada and other countries. And they still do.
Every damn year US sucks tons of people from other countries with that green card lottery. Well it is not lottery ofc. They choose who to go there.
Greatest country, freedom and stuff. They just wash people's minds. I have saw this already 20 years ago.
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I get the impression you don't like your country much? :/ Please correct me if I'm wrong btw.
Since I've now managed to visit the US I don't see it as much different from the UK, in my eyes anyways. They have there shit to deal with like we do, I can honestly say I have no desire to move there..Canada would be cool though. :)
About the video - I really admired his speech, it was thought provoking..I think many people certainly back in the 80s when I was kid thought USA was the be all and end all. I agree with ieti, home is where the heart is and I'm still searching for mine.
Nonono it is not this.
Well it is not in a good shape after the changes, but things slowly get better.
Here is photos from mount Rila and peak Mousala where i was before week or so:
http://i47.tinypic.com/swycnc.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/rrsg89.jpg
Hmm i will never forget this. I feel good in my country. It is my home.
Angel_de_Combate
07-01-2012, 07:38 PM
Nonono it is not this.
Well it is not in a good shape after the changes, but things slowly get better.
Here is photos from mount Rila and peak Mousala where i was before week or so:
http://i47.tinypic.com/swycnc.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/rrsg89.jpg
Hmm i will never forget this. I feel good in my country. It is my home.
Beautiful place. :D One day I'll visit I'm sure. :)
And EU just rejected ACTA! :thumb:
71175
07-04-2012, 12:03 PM
and eu just rejected acta! :thumb:
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Freeverse
07-04-2012, 12:29 PM
German cabaret artist, shows pretty well how americas politics really is imo.
Thx for it :))) It's full of great highlights.
I left Germany mostly because of growing political correctness. I hope it will never come to Poland as long as i'm alive:)
m4cgregor
07-04-2012, 01:11 PM
North America is a continent, South America is a continent, America, when saying just the word, is widely accepted as meaning the United States of America, that's what I've come to gather anyway ^^
Nop.
America is a continent. North and Sout America are "Subcontinents"
USA is a country whith no own name, who stoled the denomination of the whole continent.
It reflex, in my opinion, the wrong idea that they "are" the continent.
And in not so "widely" accepted.
In argentina, American, is related to the continent, and "yanqui" ( yanquee) or "Estados Unidos" ( United States ) to refer the country.
Pwnography
07-04-2012, 01:35 PM
Nop.
America is a continent. North and Sout America are "Subcontinents"
USA is a country whith no own name, who stoled the denomination of the whole continent.
It reflex, in my opinion, the wrong idea that they "are" the continent.
And in not so "widely" accepted.
In argentina, American, is related to the continent, and "yanqui" ( yanquee) or "Estados Unidos" ( United States ) to refer the country.
America is a landmass. If you were to consider this a continent then Afro-Eurasia would be a continent too, no?
The most widely accepted continents are: North america, South america, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia and Antarctica. The "United States of America" is very commonly known as just "America" in English.
m4cgregor
07-04-2012, 01:54 PM
The "United States of America" is very commonly known as just "America" in English.
Ok, maybe in english speakers.
Not in spanish, where "America" means the whole continent, from Tierra del Fuego to Alaska.
I don't know how are yours school programs, but here whe learn America is one continent, And South, Central, and North are SubContinents.
Pwnography
07-04-2012, 02:00 PM
Not in spanish, where "America" means the whole continent, from Tierra del Fuego to Alaska.
America is the whole continent, but can you imagine saying "United states of America" every time you wanted to talk about the country? America is just accepted as the short for it in english. Its like if we called Macedonia by its full name (Former yugoslav Republic of Macedonia xD).
m4cgregor
07-04-2012, 02:15 PM
America is the whole continent, but can you imagine saying "United states of America" every time you wanted to talk about the country? America is just accepted as the short for it in english. Its like if we called Macedonia by its full name (Former yugoslav Republic of Macedonia xD).
Can you imagine a country that claims to be called "Europa" ( United States of Europa) ...
What i mean its that every country, has a unique part of his name: France, Germany, Brazil (They are United States too) , Argentina, Spain, Macedonia.
USA don't.
blood-raven
07-04-2012, 02:24 PM
Tzzz Everybody knows that Bosnia and the Netherlands are the best.
bosnia, the country where they shot one another for pronouncing "god' differently? yes sound great
Well Macedonia is a geographical region. Part of the region is in territory of Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Macedonia_region_map_wikipedia.png/300px-Macedonia_region_map_wikipedia.png
Most of it's territory was in the Bulgaria territory in middle ages and they speak same language as our people. I perfectly good can communicate with macedonian people. Sadly politics there try to rewrite history and wash people's minds. They even try to bring conflict between people which is sad. :tsk_tsk:
Frosk
07-04-2012, 03:19 PM
In Spanish we say "estadounidense", which clearly refers to someone from United States, instead of "americano".
On the other hand, in english it'd be weird as hell to say: "I have an unitedstateofamericanian friend", which is why it's widely accepted to just say "I have an american friend".
Bye :P
Henkiespenkiesjanhai
07-04-2012, 03:56 PM
Emin and archonaut, netherlands is enough we dont need other pt countries like urs, have to get a new bike every week thx to people like u.
_Emin_
07-04-2012, 04:38 PM
bosnia, the country where they shot one another for pronouncing "god' differently? yes sound great
I said Bosnia because I'm origin Bosnian and I go every year to Bosnia, war is stupid and people don't know why they're warring. Bosnia is completely different right now(I think you only look at the past, not the present.
My friend don't forget about the country we are living right now. Dutch people really hate Muslims/Foreigners look at Dhr. Wilders, oh yes this sounds great as well.
_Emin_
07-04-2012, 04:44 PM
Emin and archonaut, netherlands is enough we dont need other pt countries like urs, have to get a new bike every week thx to people like u.
Lol U mad bro? Seriously don't come to talk crap here, there are foreigners smarter and better educated than you.
Pnarpa
07-04-2012, 08:05 PM
Lol U mad bro? Seriously don't come to talk crap here, there are foreigners smarter and better educated than you.
Yes, they're native dutchies who emigrated to another country. TROLOLOLOL!!
Just kidding. You guys need to stop argueing about nationalities. You'll find bad people in every country regardless of where they were born.
Every country is the greatest in its own unique way as it should be. Were it not so , things would be quite dull indeed.
All countries have good and bad, best and worst. The difference between countries lies in the proportion of these equally opposite yet complimentary factors.
What I do think makes any country perceptibly and conceptually bad are politicians, lawyers and bankers. I did not add religion because that can go either way. What entrenches it is the tolerance level of the general citizenry to the shenanigans of those same politicians, lawyers, bankers.
The USA has its good points and bad points like any other country. There is no greatest country but rather the most dominant country by influence and control.
Just be good and live in peace with yourself.
You can not generalize about pleople. Bulgarian is not so good word in some european countries, but that is thank to some not so good people too. I live in a country with 1300 year history. We are good and proud. Our land is beautiful. Our country is one of oldest in europe.
Bosnia, Serbia, Romania, Motenegro...things can be pretty much the same.
You live in a peacefull country with a good standard of live. Your parents and family have good jobs and provide you everything. You live good.
Some people emigrate to search a better life. Do not judge them.
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@Henkiespenkiesjanhai you better stop with this, and better do not think like this. People are equal no matter where are born and where they are from. Noyone is guilty until proved else. Noyone is bad or lower than you.
Think about that.
You know nothing about what happened when there was war in Yougoslavia. You know nothing about what this people was up to. I know how in the summer when american planes bombed and sayed this bombs was normal. And there was a strange rain. And after this all crops and plants was without leafs. This happened at my village which is 30 kilometers from yugo border. God knows what else happened in this war.
I know how at year of 1990 we got empty shops and we waited with hours to buy bread and milk. We got hours without electricity. I know when 3000 or more of our currency was equal to 1 deuche mark. I know when people was angry and stormed our parliament and set it on fire. I remember when my grandmother came every day at school to bring me a food.
Think again before writing such words. People are equal. No matter of country.
Love your home, family and place where you feel good.
Be good to people around.
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Sorry for this guys...
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