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Old 11-19-2013, 01:29 AM   #1
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I'm a lvl 60 hunter and the difference between my Dmg and other hunters is
like im a lvl 40 hitting the lvl 60 but I have no armor on.
10:1 is what I'm seeing as a normal difference, my bow is not great but its competitive. My armor is not to good.....but hell 10:1 this can't be right!!

It's usually a 1v1 and we both buff about the same and I'm tickling the other guy and he is wiping the floor with me......is this the new norm?
Should I reroll a new toon in gw2.. And call it a day in this game due to the F...ed mechanics?

The difference with hunters that have good gear is simply crazy different. They 4 shot me at times. When I was last on about 2 years back this fight would be like 2 knights fighting it would just go on and on now I need to grind another 20 lvls but I'm maxed..idk what the answer is.

Can gear be that different at the same lvl?
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Old 11-19-2013, 11:25 AM   #2
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you could be right...

but did you consider the case that their 4 shots might be during their Cold Blood and Dirty Fighting buffs, maybe combined with constitution penalty from break apart..?

well, since you do sound like a veteran maybe you considered all of the above. if so, then maybe you can suggest some player names whom you find to be a bit OP. this is not to pick on the players, but as part of the regular due diligence that NGD should be doing to check for OP items or undetected growing imbalances. and yea, if the imbalance became worse, i would leave for another mmo (or not play) too.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:04 PM   #3
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Amulets, rings, legendary equipment, socketed gems, armour enhancers , arrow type are factors. Also, your armour ( or its weaknesses), your arrow type compared to their armour and character build has its impacts.

The basic point is that if you go 1v1, your ability to get top tier equipment and augmentations ( pay or otherwise) is slowly becoming more and more of a factor in contests.

All that was balanced at the level 50 cap has now become skewed and distorted so aberrations will occur.
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:40 PM   #4
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I'm a lvl 60 hunter and the difference between my Dmg and other hunters is
like im a lvl 40 hitting the lvl 60 but I have no armor on.
10:1 is what I'm seeing as a normal difference, my bow is not great but its competitive. My armor is not to good.....but hell 10:1 this can't be right!!

It's usually a 1v1 and we both buff about the same and I'm tickling the other guy and he is wiping the floor with me......is this the new norm?
Should I reroll a new toon in gw2.. And call it a day in this game due to the F...ed mechanics?

The difference with hunters that have good gear is simply crazy different. They 4 shot me at times. When I was last on about 2 years back this fight would be like 2 knights fighting it would just go on and on now I need to grind another 20 lvls but I'm maxed..idk what the answer is.

Can gear be that different at the same lvl?
To answer your question at the end, yes.

The main problem is the current armour system, but this balance issue has been discussed time and time again, and I highly doubt NGD can do anything about it, because we'll start hearing about the 10 year old and messy code that they don't understand.

What you can however do is take less damage, and in order to do this you need to find the right gear. Ideally you should be searching for armour that is very good to pierce damage, and at least normal to slash, the two main damage types of high level archer gear. If you can find armour with %protection/armour bonus it's an added bonus.

Sadly, there is little you can do vs. magical damage archers may have stacked on top in the form of amulets, rings, or gems.

In terms of increasing your damage, only thing I can think of is debuffs. There is nothing else that can be done until NGD realises that balance is a priority and should've been a priority since the introduction of 10 extra levels and 20 extra power points for all.
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Old 11-19-2013, 02:11 PM   #5
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This is exactly the reason I started to play mage more. Your equipment isn't so much of a factor as when you're playing a physical damage dealing class. Plus Conjurers have defence buffs meaning you don't need to rely solely on your equipment/armour. I was tired of fighting people wearing multiple boss rings and amulets or those that could actually afford premium gear. Regnum is quickly (already become?) pay to win. I'd rather pay a subscription and have a more balanced game, because quite frankly, this is just becoming bullshit.
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Old 11-19-2013, 04:08 PM   #6
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Ok Mate coming to your problem about dmg as a hunter -
Hunter's have very few dmg but they can use armors that give dex to increase the dmg, dmg also depends on your build/set-up , if u hit ur enemy very few due to poor gear , you should try to play with a pet i.e. Troll for dmg & tiger for good speed & to further increase their dmg use bestrail waith & to protect them use Skin of beast (both at 4 or maybe 5 if u have sufficient points)
Coming to your armor problem -
Just try to find armor which have atleast vgood or good resists vs slash & pierce including mana, armor bonus , dex for dmg & concentration for good hit chance. Try to use retaltaion vs barbs as it returns good dmg back to attacker. Try escapist when u buff SOTW to evade attacker's hits.
As a hunter try to take advantage of camo & stealth dmg + dmg from pet. Hope it might help you.
Edit : Cast speed is also very important
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:33 AM   #7
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Thanks all,

Seems this is a known issue and I'm a lil bit behind the times.
Appreciate the replies and suggestions. I will state the obvious and probably well worn concern that the pay to win model will create some friction from the customer base who is reasonable....to a point!

Anyway I'm noobin it till I get lucky with some drops. The good news is NGD has really leveled the playing field with the dragon instances. I am constantly answering the ever present harang of "We need more archers at the dragon PLEASE"

Thank you NGD
For having your fingers on the pulse of the game as always!!
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:03 AM   #8
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It's downright silly the unbalance between those with boss jewelry and those without.
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:36 AM   #9
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ive got a dwarf and a lamai hunter both lvl 60 and both war master.

my gear is very good too.i think my damage stats say something along the lines of 368-451 before buffs.i too get out damaged by some hunters by a substantial amount.i use mainly ice damage as my extra's and use 2 deadly sight rings.

im very fortunate to have friends with alasthor amulet that they loan to me on occasions.many people will tell that boss gear isnt an advantage because well,they want to keep that advantage for themselves.but i can tell you here and now they are game changing.having the amulet makes me competitive.im not a very good hunter compared to other players but i enjoy the class more than any other.when i have the amulet i have the confidence to attack warlocks as my damage moves into the range needed to kill,without the amulet i stand no chance and ive got all boxed gear too.i know my 450 ping makes it harder to compete for me and i get more resists than anyone else.but its my damage output in 1 vs 1 thats my biggest concern.

i still meet hunters who are hitting double my damage.a fully buffed marks im lucky to 80 per normal while they hit me upto as much as 450 per normal attack.

gear is everything and for a hunter im sad to say more important than any other class.i hate how this is so and i wish it wasnt.

ive done tests using store bought items only.the results of these tests are proof just how important gear is.
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Old 11-28-2013, 05:24 AM   #10
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My hunter has slightly above average armor/weapons with quest jewelry and the only times I complain about my damage are during war with pylons and auras. Even under those circumstances I can take out an unsupported lock.

I have tried playing hunter with an amulet and it doesn't change all too much.
Sure, it can be the difference between winning an otherwise lost fight, but it doesn't make you an unstoppable god.
Marx however benefit too much from boss jewelry in my opinion. Some marx can hit nearly as high as my barb and from 50 range.
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