[To Adrian] Give us an option

[Loque]

To play in Ignis. Syrtis and Alsius got their healthy numbers though still varies across timezone but Ignis is pretty much non-existent. They do have some few players in their timezone but still it's not enough. So, without going into the reasons or cribbing about why players stopped or the agendas, how would it be if just a select few could willing go to play in Ignis, like say for a week, maybe on an experimental basis to see how things go and if the realm sustains itself.

I'm not asking to take your time out of other game development things or such, just maybe you could get a list of say 10-15 players from Syrtis/Alsius who would be willing to switch with their one char to Ignis and play there for a week. You can make all items character bound so trade and other stuff is disabled. Changing realms should be like just switching a flag in the character profile isn't it? I don't know how things are done actually so forgive me if I assumed too much, I'm just guessing. We can get some names right in this thread who would be willing to participate in this experiment. What do you think Adrian/Frosk? If this goes beyond the game ethics or things like that from your point of view, feel free to ignore it but a few words from your side would be appreciated. I hope I'm not putting you in any fix or position here.

If any players want to try this, I urge you to add your names below.

Alsius: Loque

[Tenel_Ka]

Nice idea, but it's just not going to happen. It's been asked for numerous times over the years and ignored. It's too time consuming to implement and will cause a lot of problems. Seriously, e-w-z will lose his shit if Syrtians start playing in Ignis. I don't want to see that, the guy talks too much as it is.

Just bite the bullet and b̶u̶y̶ grind a character there.

[_Kharbon_]

Instead of temporary solutions, this game needs a proper influx of players. Fixes, redesigning early-game, making the game more attractive, followed by a relaunch on Steam. That can improve the situation on Haven.

The idea might work for a few weeks, but I bet it would take like 6 months to implement :P.
Then again, most of the time since I started to play the game, there was one realm overpopulated or one underpopulated. Current Haven is nothing new. In time, the population will flux again..

[halvdan]

Originally Posted by _Kharbon_

Instead of temporary solutions, this game needs a proper influx of players. Fixes, redesigning early-game, making the game more attractive, followed by a relaunch on Steam. That can improve the situation on Haven.

The idea might work for a few weeks, but I bet it would take like 6 months to implement :P.
Then again, most of the time since I started to play the game, there was one realm overpopulated or one underpopulated. Current Haven is nothing new. In time, the population will flux again..

100% agree.

WM jewels update was just one huge mess which created just more problems, didn't fix anything and delayed the real update Haven needs.

Make leveling to 50 possible in few days, make level 50ties able to compete with 60ties (well you complicated this already with those jewels), promote the game more and if Ignis will be still facing the problem being low populated, with some exceptions disable making new characters in other realms for a certain time period.
That's basically all Haven needs.

[Loque]

Yes I realize what has been said and suggested before and I do know it's a temporary fix and also agree with the influx and things and the new leveling update they are working on. What I meant was filling the gaps for a few days, just to see how things handle.

I will give my own example as to why I suggested what I suggested. When Haven was fresh, and Christmas was in, we got these other realm banners from trees as gifts. So I had some Ignis banners this way. One day, when we were at Meni, some SGM came on and we just cheekily asked if we could spend those banners. He agreed and temporarily I became Ignis for a few mins, I used up the banners and then got switched back to Alsius.

So, let's see it this way. Adrian comes in to work one morning and see this thread and goes, "Hey let's try this experiment, and see how things go, switch the flags to Ignis.. " etc. This is why I thought there is pretty much no coding or development involved to change the flags. Of course, I can only suggest, they are the better judge and have the final say.

[_Kharbon_]

Yes, switching realms is possible. However, I think there would have to be other restricitons: quests, bosses, trades, wmc quests, gm to oversee that no "sabotage" behaviour is taking place and quite a few other issues would likely arise.
There was a thread about mercenaries somewhere on forums, that's I think quite similar to what you're suggesting.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think your idea is terrible, and I do think that there are people willing enough, who could make it work. I'm just trying to point out that it might not be so easy to implement as you suggest. Also, some idea of "realm rivalry" was imho always encouraged by NGD, this may go against that.


Also, I'm sure that I'm not the only one to notice, that the developers focus mainly on RA, and many updates are targeted towards a large-server population. Therefore, it might be NGD's objective to first bring up Haven in population, than continue with content. At least I hope it's that way..

[Telwe]

well remember this game as a free MMO competes with something like RIFT.... newcomers need to immediately taste the RvR or why would they do the tedious 1-60 leveling when they could play Rift instead?

[Loque]

Just provide the option for level 60 warmaster players who having nothing to do but war. WMC earning will be normal as how it is, boss doesn't really matter I think, you dropped a Dean spear big deal.

And sabotage..., don't get me wrong but Haven can barely manage players much less go dramatic and political with it's vicious schemes and what not.

I agree with Ra but the demographics of both servers are so haphazardly different it must be hard for them to cater to a smaller audience.

Realm rivalry? no realm, no rivalry.

Also, switch e-w-z to Syrtis for this time period.

PS: And when I say provide the option, I'm not asking to develop any interface or something like that to switch. I just mean get 15 willing names on here and turn them into Ignis for a week.

[rinky]

Originally Posted by Loque

Just provide the option for level 60 warmaster players who having nothing to do but war. WMC earning will be normal as how it is, boss doesn't really matter I think, you dropped a Dean spear big deal.
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Also, switch e-w-z to Syrtis for this time period.

PS: And when I say provide the option, I'm not asking to develop any interface or something like that to switch. I just mean get 15 willing names on here and turn them into Ignis for a week.

So, as you mentioned, if the code for such banners is already developed, it would require no great coding effort (tho there would be some, to update the code to conform to current code).

I kind of like this idea, and I'd like it to be automated -- the banners are available for use by Level 60 characters, who would be moved to the other realms temporarily (1 week per banner?).

There should be a name change for the other realm, though.

I rather like the idea. Not sure it would work very well, but there's only one way to find out.

To be honest, invading an empty realm is sad and disheartening to me.

Redbeard

[Aely]

The realm was not empty this morning, we were 4 log, only1 lvl 60 ^^ and 2 <45.

Frankly if you send us guys who dancer above us after kill us in 15 vs 1 with conf 5 and darkness 5, I am not persuaded that will be much appreciated.
The idea is interesting, however.