Project Hunter

Ertial · 02-28-2008, 12:09 PM

Recently their have been a lot of controversy about hunters. A lot of people seem to think hunters are the most powerful classes and other don't quite agree.
I'm in the second group and think there should be something done for hunters before whiners take all what's good away from hunters. I've started project hunter, which aims to propose an improved version of the hunter and ask NGD to change their way of listening to the community. Because although NGD is obviously listening to their community, the biggest whiners get mostly what they want. And in the case of hunters that are mostly people who've never played a hunter before and tried how hard it is to survive and grind.
If you want more information, please look here.
If you want to discuss with us(even if you don't agree), please register at Syrtis HQ and apply to the group of your realm. People from other realms are also welcome.
So please join Syrtis HQ and help discussing what can be improved. If we've got a proposal we're happy with we're going to send it to NGD with the signature of everyone who agrees.

_dracus_ · 02-28-2008, 01:12 PM

Ok, I will tell my views about the new update on hunters. It is totally stupid. Not because my spell has been nerfed, but contrary, I think they are so much better now. 30 second invisibility at level 1 (+ hiding the pet). That is way better than before, Now I can escape almost everything with my new SoW that is SO much longer than the previous one.

Please whinner continue to do so, It seems you are improving my hunter setup each time you are asking for a nerf.

Angelwinged_Devil · 02-28-2008, 02:12 PM

I think hunters are the one whining about their class not being able to be overpowered anymore.

If I'm up against a hunter it usually is spell elude which determines the outcome, am I lucky or not?
That's not tactics that's luck.

And yest, I don't think they listen to whiners, I think they listen more to the spanish community (which is a problem as I think they should listen to the most sensed arguments)

BlooD · 02-28-2008, 02:15 PM

I said it 100 times but there goes one more.

People complaing about archers (not only hunters) because you cant beat a class who evade/resist all you can throw to them.

When you get a evasion nerf and they fix the fucking evading problems (my warlock had 86 evasion with the now removed magical items) we will see how tactical and expert players archers are.

For example, we had been doing some testings before the update at the exp servers, with dodge, acrobatic, evasive tactics and elude spells 2 warlocks and a knigth need a lot of attacks to kill a hunter.

And if you trust it, please say when you can go to the experimental and we do even a video of it.

fluffy_muffin · 02-28-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooD

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And if you trust it, please say when you can go to the experimental and we do even a video of it.

O.k. in 15 min. at Algaros
I will have my normal setup.

BlooD · 02-28-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by zielski

O.k. in 15 min. at Algaros
I will have my normal setup.

You dont need to say a place, there is global chat you know.

20 mins better i am going out with the dog.

Angelwinged_Devil · 02-28-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Katiechan

If I put the points into the spell on an off-chance that I might get lucky... then I fully expect to.
It's what the spell is meant to do and how NGD intended it.

However, despite this, I find that Spell Elude rarely helps much these days. I haven't resisted a dizzy in ages.

On a related note it's out our fault that the random number generator is broken and often makes things imbalanced.

even though NGD intended it I think it sucks to know that it wasn't because of skills that I/my opponent died but because of luck, it won't improve me on any point and there's no sure counter to spell elude.

it's really weird that a "random" number generator is broken, it's meant to do random numbers.

try levelling up, your level has a big matter in this case.

Ertial · 02-28-2008, 02:28 PM

Hunters don't have much more evasion than mages, and marksmen almost the same(like zielski said). We're intended to evade much, since that's how we want to survive. Knights have a lot of armour, we're/should be able to evade a lot.
That's our class and we can't do much else.

DkySven · 02-28-2008, 02:30 PM

Hunter class is not about evade. It's a class to sneak up the enemy and disappear after killing him/when the fight turns bad.

fluffy_muffin · 02-28-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlooD

You dont need to say a place, there is global chat you know.

20 mins better i am going out with the dog.

Amun is down. I am at Imperia on Ra.
I will wait at castle back.

02-28-2008, 12:09 PM	#1
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	Project Hunter Recently their have been a lot of controversy about hunters. A lot of people seem to think hunters are the most powerful classes and other don't quite agree. I'm in the second group and think there should be something done for hunters before whiners take all what's good away from hunters. I've started project hunter, which aims to propose an improved version of the hunter and ask NGD to change their way of listening to the community. Because although NGD is obviously listening to their community, the biggest whiners get mostly what they want. And in the case of hunters that are mostly people who've never played a hunter before and tried how hard it is to survive and grind. If you want more information, please look here. If you want to discuss with us(even if you don't agree), please register at Syrtis HQ and apply to the group of your realm. People from other realms are also welcome. So please join Syrtis HQ and help discussing what can be improved. If we've got a proposal we're happy with we're going to send it to NGD with the signature of everyone who agrees. __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition! Last edited by Yest; 02-28-2008 at 01:24 PM.

02-28-2008, 01:12 PM	#2
_dracus_ Count Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toulouse Posts: 1,335	Ok, I will tell my views about the new update on hunters. It is totally stupid. Not because my spell has been nerfed, but contrary, I think they are so much better now. 30 second invisibility at level 1 (+ hiding the pet). That is way better than before, Now I can escape almost everything with my new SoW that is SO much longer than the previous one. Please whinner continue to do so, It seems you are improving my hunter setup each time you are asking for a nerf. __________________ « Thanks all, you are right I'm great with the barbarian ... for killing mobs. » -- Athena Stillwater

02-28-2008, 02:28 PM	#8
Ertial Master Join Date: May 2007 Location: Friesland, the Netherlands Posts: 298	Hunters don't have much more evasion than mages, and marksmen almost the same(like zielski said). We're intended to evade much, since that's how we want to survive. Knights have a lot of armour, we're/should be able to evade a lot. That's our class and we can't do much else. __________________ Ubuntu, Linux for human beings hunter Ertial Rye Inquisition!

02-28-2008, 02:30 PM	#9
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Hunter class is not about evade. It's a class to sneak up the enemy and disappear after killing him/when the fight turns bad. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

02-28-2008, 02:12 PM	#3
Angelwinged_Devil Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under your skin Posts: 1337 Posts: 2,490	I think hunters are the one whining about their class not being able to be overpowered anymore. If I'm up against a hunter it usually is spell elude which determines the outcome, am I lucky or not? That's not tactics that's luck. And yest, I don't think they listen to whiners, I think they listen more to the spanish community (which is a problem as I think they should listen to the most sensed arguments)

02-28-2008, 02:15 PM	#4
BlooD Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,145	I said it 100 times but there goes one more. People complaing about archers (not only hunters) because you cant beat a class who evade/resist all you can throw to them. When you get a evasion nerf and they fix the fucking evading problems (my warlock had 86 evasion with the now removed magical items) we will see how tactical and expert players archers are. For example, we had been doing some testings before the update at the exp servers, with dodge, acrobatic, evasive tactics and elude spells 2 warlocks and a knigth need a lot of attacks to kill a hunter. And if you trust it, please say when you can go to the experimental and we do even a video of it.