Escaping a fight using Stalker Suroundings

makarios68 · 08-27-2008, 05:40 PM

Ok, we have reached some kind of balance with the camo spell.

Now we don't have to put up with the annoyance of hunters casting sow/camo with impunity and escaping almost every tight spot.

And the camo spell has now become what it was intended for: an ambush attack spell.

So everything is fine, isn't it?

Actually, no, i don't think it is.

Because there is another invisisble spell, 'Stalker surroundings', which does not get cancelled by evaded hits (i'm not even sure if it gets cancelled by hits that actually hit) and i am seeing this being used ever more frequently as a means of escape in the same way that the annoying sow/camo combination was previously used.

The way i see it, stalker surroundings, like camo, is an ambush attacking spell, and certainly not an escape spell.

Therefore, i believe it should be cancelled by any attack, even evaded ones, just like camo is now...

BlooD · 08-27-2008, 05:44 PM

Well i think its fine as it is now. They suggested the same in the spanish forums but the problem of stalker surroudings is everyone knows you are there and everybody knows you are unable to move.

Except hunters and maybe conjurers everyone has a cheap area spell to cast while you are invisible, if there is more than 1 you are dead for sure.

So casting stalker to escape its stupid since you are there and you are unable to move, your enemy will just use area spells and you will die anyway.

fluffy_muffin · 08-27-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by makarios68

Therefore, i believe it should be cancelled by any attack, even evaded ones, just like camo is now...

Don't you think that it is a little bit paranoid? This guy can't move. You know where he is. And it is YOUR fault that you have no area :P
All he can do is cast sotw and run. But it is not good idea :] So what is the problem? Usually i cast my camu or stalker and wait.

makarios68 · 08-27-2008, 07:52 PM

I don't agree that a hunter on 100 hp can cast sow then stalker whilst several enemies attack him, and live!...

UmarilsStillHere · 08-27-2008, 08:10 PM

Is it possilbe to log out under stalker? (I dont know)

If not then no problem you can just stand were he cast it (since he/she cant move) and wait...it will be a long with most of the time but they aint going anywere, all they can do is recharge and try fight you again so your best bet is just to sit and rest, then when they comes out of it fight them again.

StoryTeller · 08-27-2008, 08:32 PM

I agree with Wudy.

Sure the person is stuck in one spot, but they still manage to cast Stalker while under attack. How about if the Hunter escaping was really far and uses Stalker? Can anyone accurately use an area on the last known position? Example: I only have one area is Howl (Rng:6) I could miss alot with such a short range.

BlooD · 08-27-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by makarios68

I don't agree that a hunter on 100 hp can cast sow then stalker whilst several enemies attack him, and live!...

Well, he will never survive that, the enemies cast some areas in lvl 1 and he will die for sure.

He cant move while invisible, so its hard to escape.

Arkenion · 08-27-2008, 09:23 PM

But he can sit down....

fluffy_muffin · 08-27-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkenion

But he can sit down....

And? You know how fast hp regen? Much much slower then you loose it :P

Mikan · 08-27-2008, 10:08 PM

In my opinion Stalker surroundings is just fine the way it is.

It costs an awful lot of mana to use (440 mana on level 1 just to hide one person for 60 seconds), and the Hunter cannot move so it is in no way comparable to Camoflauge in that regard.

A Hunter who uses Stalker to escape is a clever Hunter, because it can also be very dangerous.

Regards

08-27-2008, 05:40 PM	#1
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	Escaping a fight using Stalker Suroundings Ok, we have reached some kind of balance with the camo spell. Now we don't have to put up with the annoyance of hunters casting sow/camo with impunity and escaping almost every tight spot. And the camo spell has now become what it was intended for: an ambush attack spell. So everything is fine, isn't it? Actually, no, i don't think it is. Because there is another invisisble spell, 'Stalker surroundings', which does not get cancelled by evaded hits (i'm not even sure if it gets cancelled by hits that actually hit) and i am seeing this being used ever more frequently as a means of escape in the same way that the annoying sow/camo combination was previously used. The way i see it, stalker surroundings, like camo, is an ambush attacking spell, and certainly not an escape spell. Therefore, i believe it should be cancelled by any attack, even evaded ones, just like camo is now...

08-27-2008, 08:10 PM	#5
UmarilsStillHere Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: England Posts: 2,419	Is it possilbe to log out under stalker? (I dont know) If not then no problem you can just stand were he cast it (since he/she cant move) and wait...it will be a long with most of the time but they aint going anywere, all they can do is recharge and try fight you again so your best bet is just to sit and rest, then when they comes out of it fight them again. __________________ Faith 50 Barb Faithless 50 Lock Umaril 45 Conju Kailas 45 Marks Pel 45 Knight I N Q U I S I T I O N

08-27-2008, 08:32 PM	#6
StoryTeller Pledge Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Inside your head Posts: 35	I agree with Wudy. Sure the person is stuck in one spot, but they still manage to cast Stalker while under attack. How about if the Hunter escaping was really far and uses Stalker? Can anyone accurately use an area on the last known position? Example: I only have one area is Howl (Rng:6) I could miss alot with such a short range. __________________ Vini Vidi RAWR'i I came, I saw, I RAWR'd Battle Angel Alita

08-27-2008, 09:23 PM	#8
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08-27-2008, 10:08 PM	#10
Mikan Baron Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In Nekoko's lap ;) Posts: 768	In my opinion Stalker surroundings is just fine the way it is. It costs an awful lot of mana to use (440 mana on level 1 just to hide one person for 60 seconds), and the Hunter cannot move so it is in no way comparable to Camoflauge in that regard. A Hunter who uses Stalker to escape is a clever Hunter, because it can also be very dangerous. Regards __________________ Hannah Amelie • Catalina Nevena • Alicia Godwyn Alsius Horus ✝ No chance of victory, no chance of defeat ✝ Frozen Flame Individually, we are one drop. Together, we are an ocean. An ocean of drama.

08-27-2008, 05:44 PM	#2
BlooD Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,145	Well i think its fine as it is now. They suggested the same in the spanish forums but the problem of stalker surroudings is everyone knows you are there and everybody knows you are unable to move. Except hunters and maybe conjurers everyone has a cheap area spell to cast while you are invisible, if there is more than 1 you are dead for sure. So casting stalker to escape its stupid since you are there and you are unable to move, your enemy will just use area spells and you will die anyway.

08-27-2008, 07:52 PM	#4
makarios68 Count Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,300	I don't agree that a hunter on 100 hp can cast sow then stalker whilst several enemies attack him, and live!...