Dragon loot and realm imbalance

save_the_trees · 09-06-2008, 03:43 PM

With the current spells, fire damage occurs far more often than ice or lightning. Especially ice can be only seen within arcana strike and winter stroke (The warlock ice dmg spells just suck, nobody uses them anyway ... ). But let me list all the rather often used spells containing fire dmg: Meteor, arcane missile, blaze, fireball, magma blast, ignus scorch, arcana strike. Apart from that, the ignean axe does quite some fire dmg (a common way to counter steel skin for non blunt barbs ... :/ ) but there isn't an alsirian or syrtian axe with ice/lightning dmg. Lightning dmg at least still occurs a bit more frequently than ice but still a lot less often than fire. The Alasthor/Aysor - "resist cold" is just worse than the corresponding bonus in the other realms.
Therefore I think that all boss monster drops with some kind of elemental dmg resistance should resist all 3 kind instead of only one realm specific kind.

Znurre · 09-06-2008, 03:47 PM

Very good post Kathris.
This is a big problem which further adds on to the realm imbalance.

save_the_trees · 09-06-2008, 03:50 PM

you know what made me think of this point again? Heg and I killed Aysor together with a lower lv knight. it took us quite some time. and I got this Aysor Amulett: resist cold +25. looool. If it were fire: wow. But cold --> trash.

Znurre · 09-06-2008, 03:56 PM

Yes, and I've talked to several other players that got this amulet as well.
They all agree that it is totally useless.
Most people sell it to gain money.

Mikan · 09-06-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by save_the_trees

you know what made me think of this point again? Heg and I killed Aysor together with a lower lv knight. it took us quite some time. and I got this Aysor Amulett: resist cold +25. looool. If it were fire: wow. But cold --> trash.

Items that only resist one type of damage are largely useless anyway, at least compared to other items.
It would be better if they simply resisted physical or magical damage in general, IMO.

Regards.

LenaRosemberg · 09-06-2008, 10:20 PM

IMO all realms should have the same items, amulets and rings included.

Anaxes · 09-07-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LenaRosemberg

IMO all realms should have the same items, amulets and rings included.

Yes they should,

Theres a guide up on Rings and Amulets, and it shows perfectly what kind of balance there is

In Ignis there is a Ring of Lightning that gives +5% Attack Speed, but this item just happens to be way over the top. The other items are useless,

When will boss loot really be like boss loot? Afaik Ignis has the most boss loot, but there are many rings and amulets in Syrtis and Alsuis with better effects.

Most of the items we get are useless, at all levels.

Znurre · 09-08-2008, 09:19 AM

But I still think the best solution is to make ice based damage more common and attractive.

fluffy_muffin · 09-08-2008, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Znurre

But I still think the best solution is to make ice based damage more common and attractive.

Yes. Same with electrical dmg.

Vroek · 09-08-2008, 10:28 AM

25% is a huge damage reduction if it was anything but ice damage id say it would be far too much.
As I understand all boss loot is fairly useless, exept some broken items and the sword in syrtis. Anyone know what the superboss drops?

09-06-2008, 03:43 PM	#1
save_the_trees Initiate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: rock at pines save :) Posts: 144	Dragon loot and realm imbalance With the current spells, fire damage occurs far more often than ice or lightning. Especially ice can be only seen within arcana strike and winter stroke (The warlock ice dmg spells just suck, nobody uses them anyway ... ). But let me list all the rather often used spells containing fire dmg: Meteor, arcane missile, blaze, fireball, magma blast, ignus scorch, arcana strike. Apart from that, the ignean axe does quite some fire dmg (a common way to counter steel skin for non blunt barbs ... :/ ) but there isn't an alsirian or syrtian axe with ice/lightning dmg. Lightning dmg at least still occurs a bit more frequently than ice but still a lot less often than fire. The Alasthor/Aysor - "resist cold" is just worse than the corresponding bonus in the other realms. Therefore I think that all boss monster drops with some kind of elemental dmg resistance should resist all 3 kind instead of only one realm specific kind. __________________ I would change the world - but Surak doesn't share the source code Kathris Starsong - Magical Goat of Valhalla ; Odin Frostbreaker - little blunt pt; Lord Necro - MoD (5) suicider

09-06-2008, 03:47 PM	#2
Znurre Marquis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RA Posts: 1,897	Very good post Kathris. This is a big problem which further adds on to the realm imbalance. __________________ Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it. http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg

09-06-2008, 03:50 PM	#3
save_the_trees Initiate Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: rock at pines save :) Posts: 144	you know what made me think of this point again? Heg and I killed Aysor together with a lower lv knight. it took us quite some time. and I got this Aysor Amulett: resist cold +25. looool. If it were fire: wow. But cold --> trash. __________________ I would change the world - but Surak doesn't share the source code Kathris Starsong - Magical Goat of Valhalla ; Odin Frostbreaker - little blunt pt; Lord Necro - MoD (5) suicider

09-06-2008, 03:56 PM	#4
Znurre Marquis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RA Posts: 1,897	Yes, and I've talked to several other players that got this amulet as well. They all agree that it is totally useless. Most people sell it to gain money. __________________ Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it. http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg

09-06-2008, 10:20 PM	#6
LenaRosemberg Apprentice Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: France Posts: 80	IMO all realms should have the same items, amulets and rings included. __________________ For ages, the Rosemberg Order, made of girls from all realms and races worked for appreciation and comprehension between all the peoples of Regnum. But the war forced their split. Having failed as peacekeepers, may Lena (M50), Aenamia (C45), Helena (H32) and the others be known as powerful warriors and trustful clanmates.

09-08-2008, 09:19 AM	#8
Znurre Marquis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RA Posts: 1,897	But I still think the best solution is to make ice based damage more common and attractive. __________________ Winning a fight is not what makes you a good player, it's how you do it. http://home.znur.re/screenshot%20201...2011_39_37.jpg

09-08-2008, 10:28 AM	#10
Vroek Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 890	25% is a huge damage reduction if it was anything but ice damage id say it would be far too much. As I understand all boss loot is fairly useless, exept some broken items and the sword in syrtis. Anyone know what the superboss drops?