Problems with melee classes (Warriors)

Adrian · 06-05-2009, 09:27 PM

Hello Community,

Since the latest update (1.0.6) and with the speed increase, we have detected several shortcomings with the movement system. This issue affects mostly melee classes.

We are analyzing the situation and are aware of the importance of this problem. As soon as we have a solution ready, which could take a while, it will be deployed to all servers.

Please use this topic to reply about the general situation and not about specific balance issues. For such cases, use the sections related to those purposes.

Regards,

backe · 06-05-2009, 10:37 PM

Thank you for quickly acknowledging this problem. I look forward to a solution for this issue.

ArchmagusArcana · 06-06-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by backe

Thank you for quickly acknowledging this problem. I look forward to a solution for this issue.

+1 Thank you very much

gluffs · 06-06-2009, 11:27 AM

Thanks for letting us know you guys are working on the problem. Hope you
find a solution fast, i miss playing my knight but atm it is just to frustrating.

DkySven · 06-06-2009, 01:05 PM

Thank you for this topic.

In my opinion is it very hard at the moment for warriors to hit other targets because of a combination of position lag and the speed increase. Often player characters aren't showed at their real location, which makes it very hard to get them in a warrior's attack range. This problem increased with the speed increase, because now the difference between the real location and the shown one became bigger.

Mikan · 06-06-2009, 01:35 PM

Hi Kailer,

I would just like to point out that most of the problem is caused by "position bug", which is a horrible inaccuracy in the positioning system that causes no end of problems for players. You see, I often play with my girlfriend next to me on another computer, and she is always in front of me by about ten meters on her screen, but just as far behind me on my screen. This is extremely bad for warriors and other classes with short range (e.g Hunters with shortbow), as it takes approximately five seconds to sync the positions before the update, and it's only become worse since.

The whole problem is that players move faster than the network code has the ability to synchronize their positions, so they appear to be in a completely different location on their own screens than where they really are in the game world. This part of the engine has needed drastic improvement for years now, and I hope with this next hotfix NGD will really address the issue properly for the good of all classes.

Please, no more casting Heal(5) on the code instead of properly replacing it.

Regards.

Pornstar · 06-08-2009, 06:40 AM

I dont understand! If someone have stolen your watch and then say "I will try to return it", would you thank him ?

Foggia · 06-08-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bmaster

I dont understand! If someone have stolen your watch and then say "I will try to return it", would you thank him ?

What a comparison. Stealing a watch is a deliberated action and I highly doubt NGD wanted warriors to be crippled :P
It would be more accurate if u lost ur watch, someone found it and brought it back to u - would u say thank you?

Pornstar · 06-08-2009, 07:13 AM

We didnt lost our watches, they stole them.

Mashu · 06-08-2009, 12:10 PM

Avoiding areas by moving backward might be due to positional bug.
But warriors are not only broken by positional bug. Also some skills do less damage then normals, have no effect, have cast time and costs mana at the same time which is insane.

06-05-2009, 09:27 PM	#1
Adrian NGD·Studios Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wien, Österreich Posts: 2,859	Problems with melee classes (Warriors) Hello Community, Since the latest update (1.0.6) and with the speed increase, we have detected several shortcomings with the movement system. This issue affects mostly melee classes. We are analyzing the situation and are aware of the importance of this problem. As soon as we have a solution ready, which could take a while, it will be deployed to all servers. Please use this topic to reply about the general situation and not about specific balance issues. For such cases, use the sections related to those purposes. Regards, __________________

06-06-2009, 11:27 AM	#4
gluffs Initiate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 163	Thanks for letting us know you guys are working on the problem. Hope you find a solution fast, i miss playing my knight but atm it is just to frustrating. __________________ Beardo-Knight / Fautor-Conju / Fury-Warlock Brutus-Barbar / Furon-Hunter / The Dude-Marks Alsius [Haven]

06-06-2009, 01:05 PM	#5
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	Thank you for this topic. In my opinion is it very hard at the moment for warriors to hit other targets because of a combination of position lag and the speed increase. Often player characters aren't showed at their real location, which makes it very hard to get them in a warrior's attack range. This problem increased with the speed increase, because now the difference between the real location and the shown one became bigger. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

06-06-2009, 01:35 PM	#6
Mikan Baron Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In Nekoko's lap ;) Posts: 768	Hi Kailer, I would just like to point out that most of the problem is caused by "position bug", which is a horrible inaccuracy in the positioning system that causes no end of problems for players. You see, I often play with my girlfriend next to me on another computer, and she is always in front of me by about ten meters on her screen, but just as far behind me on my screen. This is extremely bad for warriors and other classes with short range (e.g Hunters with shortbow), as it takes approximately five seconds to sync the positions before the update, and it's only become worse since. The whole problem is that players move faster than the network code has the ability to synchronize their positions, so they appear to be in a completely different location on their own screens than where they really are in the game world. This part of the engine has needed drastic improvement for years now, and I hope with this next hotfix NGD will really address the issue properly for the good of all classes. Please, no more casting Heal(5) on the code instead of properly replacing it. Regards. __________________ Hannah Amelie • Catalina Nevena • Alicia Godwyn Alsius Horus ✝ No chance of victory, no chance of defeat ✝ Frozen Flame Individually, we are one drop. Together, we are an ocean. An ocean of drama.

06-05-2009, 10:37 PM	#2
backe Initiate Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 222	Thank you for quickly acknowledging this problem. I look forward to a solution for this issue.

06-08-2009, 06:40 AM	#7
Pornstar Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 76	I dont understand! If someone have stolen your watch and then say "I will try to return it", would you thank him ?

06-08-2009, 07:13 AM	#9
Pornstar Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 76	We didnt lost our watches, they stole them.

06-08-2009, 12:10 PM	#10
Mashu Master Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 541	Avoiding areas by moving backward might be due to positional bug. But warriors are not only broken by positional bug. Also some skills do less damage then normals, have no effect, have cast time and costs mana at the same time which is insane.