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08-02-2009, 03:52 PM | #1 |
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The useless spell list
Well, this is a list of all the spells that are in my opinion 'useless/not used', to be classed as 'useless' I mean;
I never see them in war, I never see them in grind, I only very rarely see them at boss events, They are rarely used over level 1 Since im not perfect I may miss some out, or put some in that you think are usefull, if so post what you think should be added/removed and why, For some spells I comment on their uselessness, here I go... Warriors Slash Athletic: Dex on a warrior, why? Crash Fatal Strike: Good on paper but I never see it, I blame mana cost Blunt Ribs Breaker Execution: Broken Jaw Breaker: I blame mana cost/cast time Peirce Impale Brain Piercing Multi-Thrust Lightning Strike: Worst of the areas, I never see this anymore Tactics Martial Defence Back Slam Martial Reflexes: Broken Warcries Colossus: I never see this in use Intimidaing Threat Onslaught: Bad Mana -> Effect ratio, shame that the 'definining' spell all barbs used to have is now only used on 5 by 3 or 4 players on the whole server 2 Handed Mastery Rend Destabilize Fulmination Rage of the Earth Vanguard Rigorous Preperation Awareness Challenge Provoking Blow Arcane Constitution Sheilds Ethereal Mantle: I only see this when knights are messing around "bubble dance " Run Over Protector: Often only used on level 1 for running away, better uses for this skill have been suggested Archers Short Bows Meditation Adaptability Long Bows Ofuscate Projectile Rain Tricks Finesse Evasion Cat Reflexes: Does it work? Spell Elude Scouting Track Monster Track Ally Camouflage Corpse Pets ... Aiming Mastery Finger Crush Cyclops Curse Seeking Strike Arrow Mastery Needle Blast Fire Rain Mages Mental Sultars Devouring Mass Mana Control Metabolic Control: Conc is a hit and miss stat, a miss imo Staff Mastery Protection Dome Enchantments Curse Blindness Clumsiness Summoning Summon Golem: Not as good as the ranged summons before it Sourcery Shifting Silhouette Friendly Shielding Life ... Necromancy Infuriate Arcania Petrify Hands Laziness Fragility Wind Wall Elements Ice Blast Frozen Storm Elemental Exposure Ok all done, If you think I missed something or put something In that you think is usefull if you can give a good reason I will add/remove it. I get that NGD need to change 'used' spells as well but it would be nice to see these spells made usefull so people acctualy use them, creating more variety, and making these spells more than pretty icons in the spell book that never get clicked.
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08-02-2009, 04:14 PM | #2 |
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Finally someone made a list...
I'll speak for the conjurer/mage spells only Splinter wall is good in fort wars, individual damage isn't good but in the middle of an enemy army the overall damage isn't as bad as you think. Metabolic control I'm not sure of, does concentration increase spell focus? If so, it's good, but usually used by sm mages. Mirage is very good imo, I use it alot in fort wars. With mirage + mind blank both lvl 5 a conj gets +90% resist knocks. Combined with mass dispel and you can save your army from those sultar chains. Friendly shielding is ok, but the cd>duration makes it not worth it. All the other conj/mage spells I agree with. +1 for making this list.
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08-02-2009, 04:16 PM | #3 |
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I have seen (and myself used) colossus on fort doors. I use it on level 1 and suspect others probably don't level it up but use it on 1 as well.
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08-02-2009, 04:24 PM | #4 |
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Wtf?
I use Ribs Breaker, Crushing and Rage of the earth (thanks Ara ) all the time. Before I changed my setup I also used Defensive Stance on lvl 4. Jaw Breaker isn't a too uncommon sight on RA either, neither is Brain Piercing. Most knights on RA use Shield Wall or Heroic if using any aura at all.
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08-02-2009, 04:28 PM | #5 |
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I used to see Ribs often before It was nerfed, nearly never now though, Crushing I have used on level one a few times when I used blunt but I nearly never see it, Ive seen Rage of the Earth on level 5 only once, its expected some people will use these spells and since you play on a more populated server its only natural that you will see more of these around, I dont see them used often enough to be mainstream usefull though :P
Ill pay more attention to Knight auras to see if sheild wall crops up more, but I tend not to see it.
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08-02-2009, 04:29 PM | #6 |
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infuriate is useful?
splinter wall is useful if you can figure out how it's pretty evil I can't see why wind wall and laziness sucks either? Laziness on 5 is 50% attack damage for 20 seconds |
08-02-2009, 04:31 PM | #7 | |
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Laziness sure, its good on level 5, but I never see it used
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08-02-2009, 04:44 PM | #8 | |
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Very very often used at fort doors... I end up healing 20% of a lot of barbs health
Not often but I do see it cast, I even know one knight who lvl's this up. Quote:
Very hard to use at the right time due to the speed reduction, but I use this on lvl 4 at fort doors if there are people inside, and I see a few others doing the same also. Sad thing is these are good spells, and I run out of points well before any of these could get them, I do cast them on lvl 1 however. Especially Friendly Shielding on a knight. |
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08-02-2009, 05:01 PM | #9 | |
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100% damage and -15 const, for 120 mana. Use this together with TfB and normal hits and you get the same effect as the old Ribs Breaker. In theory, a crushing lvl 1 will cause around 1k damage on a warrior if you manage to kill him before the duration runs out.
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08-02-2009, 05:08 PM | #10 |
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Comments in blue, i'll only comment skills Knights use.
[QUOTE=Umaril;769589] Warriors Slash Athletic: Dex on a warrior, why? Some slashing users evade a lot, i guess they put points in this one. Blunt Ribs Breaker Often used on RA Crushing Isn't that rare, seems like it's getting more popular every week. Jaw Breaker I see it sometimes but it would be way better without the high mana cost. Tactics Defensive Stance: - Speed ruins it A must have when breaking/defending fort doors. Sheilds Shield Wall: Looks good now it resists all physical dmg, still never see it Together with Heroic Presence the most common Knight aura on RA Run Over I use it at lvl 5 and it works, though you only see good results from it with 100+ constitution (tested). The KD resist from const seems to be broken but it affects this skill. QUOTE]
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