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Old 04-23-2007, 06:39 PM   #1
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Default Please NGD, hear what I have to say

So, I'm back once again to complain about the unbalance occurred after the last "big" update.

You might call it balance, but it's pure unbalance.
I thought “close combat” classes were to be better than “ranged combat” classes in close combat, but now I see I've been wrong all the time, at least until the last “big” update.

I've tried to just calm down, trying to live with the fact that this “unbalance” most surely will be here to stay but it's impossible.

How can it be fair that a hunter can kill a barbarian in close combat?
Don't you think that's a bit strange?

Nowadays, I use to level at the Alsius beach but that have turned into a real pain.
Syrtis is running there all the time, making it impossible to train.
Now, coward Syrtis players isn't what we are gonna talk about so I'll start right away with my story.

“Me, cowboy and The Nezzer was at the beach.
Cowboy went up in the forest near the shop because he wanted to kill cyclopes.
I stayed at the beach, killing Aquantis Elites.
Suddenly a hunter appears, he is rated easy to me.
He have got a pet by his side, and he is running right against me!
At this time I had about the half amount of my life because I were not prepared for a PvP, I were griding making no harm at all.
Okay, so the hunter started to attack me along with his pet.
I used my strongest attacks on him but he was too fast for me.
Before I had even hit him he had cast a dizzy spell on me making it impossible for me to make more than 500-600 damage.
So there I was, useless. I tried in the last to kill him but no chance.
He started to run around so i couldn't hit him while his pet attacked me.
I tried to attack his pet and then he ambushed me and killed me.”

Cowboy and The Nezzer didn't reach there in time, all this happened so fast.
I guess he had been standing there for a while, watching me leveling and then started attack med when I had about 1500hp left.

Then, dear NGD, tell me.
Wouldn't I, a barbarian, the master on 1vs1 battles be able to kill him?
You doesn't seem to think so.
He might have about 2000hp, and I wasn't able to kill him, even if one hit of mine takes 500-600 normal, 900 using a spell! But guess what, how do you think I should be able to use any spell when the casting time is so slow that anyone can have the time to dizzy cast me before I can even make one hit?

Well... I had indeed half hp, so my dead wasn't very serious (If I had got full HP, I had gone crazy!)
But then my friend cowboy came down to kill him.
Cowboy had full HP, but indeed died, and he was a knight one level over me (46)!
The hunter was surely “very easy” to him.

How do you explain this?
Do you think this is balance?
You seem to.

This was not the only of these kind of situations.
I've been killed numereus times by warlocks, conjurers and all kind of ranged combat players.
The mages cast like 20 spells on me each hit, including dizzy, slow, drainings and such.
I have no chance.

I feel so useless right now.
I agree I can do lots of damage, but the only situations right now when PvP are even possible is when I have my dear friend The Nezzer (Conjurer) by my side.
Then it's easy to be barbarian, I agree, in that case I can crush any enemies, cause then the enemies are attacking The Nezzer first so I have the time to deal lots of damage to them and Trip them.
Without my friends at my side, I can even barely deal with any 1vs1 situation.
This is horrible, cause I remember times when Regnum was still fun to play.

I know this is a great game, and the PvP in this game is hard beaten.
But you have to agree that the PvP is the soul of this game, and how funny do you think it is to be useless in PvP? I feel like a mage without its staff, useless and I know that many of my friends (and surely enemies) feel the same even if they wont bother to post on the forums.

There is even mages that agree to what I say:

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Originally Posted by twiistedkaos
No you're aren't whining. This is completely true, and Barbarians were made almost completely useless in this new update. I went into warzone with my level 30 mage and killed an impossible barbarian, which almost made me laugh, he got 1 hit in, unfortunately leaving me with 100hp, so I ivyied him, ran back some drained his hp and gave it to myself and fireballed him. Wasn't really much of a challenge, Especially when he should've completely killed me.
Some archers and mages might complain about the warriors advantages over them, and maybe they were right, once, but not anymore.
Can you even name one advantage to be a warrior right now when we are even useless in what we are meant to be good at – close combat?

I've tried being a mage, and yes it's lots harder than being a barbarian.
Especially to level up, but in the warzone... no, not anymore!
Stop complaining, you can try being a barbarian yourself if you want.
How funny do you think it is to have a “very slow” weapon and use spells?
You can point and laugh at us, you have at least got “fast” or “medium”, maybe “slow” weapons.
But you also have a general higher weapon speed.
I don't think you can even imagine how it feel to be a warrior right now.

Please NGD, I beg on my knees.
Please indeed answer to my post and tell me if there are gonna be some change.
If nothing are gonna change regarding this, well... Then I don't know if this game is worth playing anymore, at least not as warrior.

Great, you'll gain a lots of archers and mages.

I don't want to tell you how to do your job or complain about your hard work (because you really are doing a great job, working hard for this great game).
I just want to make you aware that many players out there have got a pure hell right now playing this game and that we want a solution, or at least a reply telling us you are aware of this.

Thanks
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:10 PM   #2
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Yes, I've seen you die many times, in front of my eyes.

Before this update you slayed archers as shit.

Now I need to heal you all the time, and the price to me is : Death, because I need to heal you so much that I can't protect my self.

Shouldn't barbarians dominate the Regnum world ?
At least kill Warlocks, hunters (who is the most fucking dominate chars) and conjurors.

If I'm lucky I maybe can kill Znurre and I'm a level 33 Conjuror, this is mad :s
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:28 PM   #3
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This is so true, so true.

I hope they fix it.
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:29 PM   #4
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u are so damn right!

but they just downed the server for an update, so maybe its all solved.
anyway, before the update the balance was WAY better.
I cant stress it often enough.

that slow casting is unfair and breaks the fun.
I (as a knight) feel as if i had to fight with both hands tied to the back.

I wrote it in other threads and write it here again:
that punishment for warriors need to change!

znurre is absolutly right
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:36 PM   #5
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Hm... since the last update I had the feeling that archers are useless in solo PvE.... I did not much PvP because i am afraid of the huge warrior damage...
You didnt tell us what warrior class you are... But I guess its Barbarian cause many babarian complain about the very slow weapons.... Are there no weapons with slow or medium speed and a bit less damage? could be usefull to use them.

I the warzone I experienced that you should never walk alone..... always in a group because of the thing you reported.... Low life and then comes the enemy and kills you.
Im level 33 Hunter now, i got a bit more then 2000 life points.... I cant imagine to kill a Warrior -.-"
But if its that extremly like you reported something has to be changed.
I think I can believe in what you said... One of my clan members stopped playing his high lvl barbarian because its unplayable because of the low speed....

But In my opinion one thing is not fair:
In many thread players are complaining about Syrtis players camping at altars etc..... Might be true.... but Syrtis is not the only realm doing this....
I dont think that it is good for the community that there are so much complaints about this.... On the other hand it should be self-evident that NO player camps or kills unchallenging enemies in PvP


Best Regards and have a nice day.
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:41 PM   #6
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Hm... since the last update I had the feeling that archers are useless in solo PvE.... I did not much PvP because i am afraid of the huge warrior damage...
You didnt tell us what warrior class you are... But I guess its Barbarian cause many babarian complain about the very slow weapons.... Are there no weapons with slow or medium speed and a bit less damage? could be usefull to use them.

I the warzone I experienced that you should never walk alone..... always in a group because of the thing you reported.... Low life and then comes the enemy and kills you.
Im level 33 Hunter now, i got a bit more then 2000 life points.... I cant imagine to kill a Warrior -.-"
But if its that extremly like you reported something has to be changed.
I think I can believe in what you said... One of my clan members stopped playing his high lvl barbarian because its unplayable because of the low speed....

But In my opinion one thing is not fair:
In many thread players are complaining about Syrtis players camping at altars etc..... Might be true.... but Syrtis is not the only realm doing this....
I dont think that it is good for the community that there are so much complaints about this.... On the other hand it should be self-evident that NO player camps or kills unchallenging enemies in PvP


Best Regards and have a nice day.
No, you are right.
Syrtis, aswell as Alsius and Ignis are doing these things.
We cannot blam a specific realm.

Regarding the speed, I'm using a "slow" weapon, and that's even faster than many of those blunt weapons that the majority of the barbaians are using.
Even with that axe, everything is damn slow.

This is because of the low general attack speed of the warriors.
No matter what speed of your weapon you have, warriors have 1.5 in attack speed and archers/mages 3.

This makes everything very slow, as I bet you can imagine.
But maybe things are solved now.
My friend tells me that the newly update made everything better, but I have to try it myself (something i wont be able to to in 5 days).

Can someone other confirm this?
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:41 PM   #7
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If a mage misses one spell to slow or stun a warrior.. the warior will win...
you need to adapt.. and use new weapons that attack faster... learn how to combo attack... I played a warrior just fine.. and killed 2 mages... at the same time.. and also 1 mage 1 archer.. it all depends on your skill and what SKILLS you train in..

Moreover.. if a mage misses one of his skills.. he has to wait 60 - 180 seconds before he can use that skill again.. your cooldowns are like 20 seconds.. and you have instant attacks. There are many ways that you can overcome in battle besides trying to rush in and kill everyone...
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Old 04-23-2007, 07:54 PM   #8
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No, you are right.
Syrtis, aswell as Alsius and Ignis are doing these things.
We cannot blam a specific realm.

Regarding the speed, I'm using a "slow" weapon, and that's even faster than many of those blunt weapons that the majority of the barbaians are using.
Even with that axe, everything is damn slow.

This is because of the low general attack speed of the warriors.
No matter what speed of your weapon you have, warriors have 1.5 in attack speed and archers/mages 3.

This makes everything very slow, as I bet you can imagine.
But maybe things are solved now.
My friend tells me that the newly update made everything better, but I have to try it myself (something i wont be able to to in 5 days).

Can someone other confirm this?
yes, I can imagine.... I try to use fast bows as often as possible... The difference is very big.
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Old 04-23-2007, 08:49 PM   #9
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If a mage misses one spell to slow or stun a warrior.. the warior will win...
you need to adapt.. and use new weapons that attack faster... learn how to combo attack... I played a warrior just fine.. and killed 2 mages... at the same time.. and also 1 mage 1 archer.. it all depends on your skill and what SKILLS you train in..

Moreover.. if a mage misses one of his skills.. he has to wait 60 - 180 seconds before he can use that skill again.. your cooldowns are like 20 seconds.. and you have instant attacks. There are many ways that you can overcome in battle besides trying to rush in and kill everyone...
I don't think you read trough all my long post.
if yu had done, you would have seen that i citated another mage with the same thoughts as me.

The scenario you describe where a warrior can kill 2 mages fits too well on the time before this update. I can't belive that you have tried the barbarian since the last update because you can't do combos anymore with the new update.
Before the update, such a thing to kill 2 mages wer no problem at all.
Especially not if the mages were weak and low leveled.

You could first hit the weakest, and just before the hit use charge.
This would result in a normal hit and directly after a charge hit.
This way you could have cause more than 1500damage in less than 2 seconds.
This would be enough to kill an low leveled mage.
If that's not enough you could make a "Thirst for blood" and then cause 900damage more.
Impressive, 2400 damage in 4 seconds, not bad at all.

But that were those times.
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Old 04-23-2007, 09:21 PM   #10
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no .. i read it all.. After the update.. you are slower if you use a heavy weapon yes.. but warriors can still own multiple opponents.... you need to train more..
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