Lets be Positive and Constuctive...

[Comp]

I do think that people are being a bit childish and over-dramatic about this. NGD is actually working WITH the community on this, give good answers to questions posted and they keep repeating themselves over and over..

Things are not final...

You have to understand this. The number of developers this game has is infinitesimal compared to other MMO games....trust me I worked for Blizzard - they have small armies just doing the QA portion.

Now consider yourself lucky that they WANT the community involved in this. They are active in posting the modification updates and what they mean.

You ALSO have to understand that the developers can't see 100% of how the changes they make affect overall combat and player experience. So they need our input...our CONSTRUCTIVE input.

So - be creative, help solve problems...and STOP nagging on the whole "Bwaaaaaa - my class got a damage nerf" - cause everyone did...and it was necessary. Now NGD needs help in balancing out how the classes interact....so lets help them and help other members of the community.

[Seher]

Five new threads about this won't make it truer. And, unfortunately, won't make anyone get it who doesn't know it already. :/

[tarashunter]

Ok i've been a bit tragic on my post.
Then some one sugest me to have a try in fort wars on amun....is ok,it looks good.
I'm sorry i must give my excuse at NGD stuff for what i've said first to try it(i've tried it on mobs only after amun update).
Then i saw some people of the comunity giving nice idea to developers stuff,and as Compost say,is a nice things that they put annuncment on forum about every step they do,to make us partecipate.
Is their work make a nice game to have more player so to have a little possibility to have some money too.
If game have more players it means is a nice game,we can have more fun on Horus with more player,and then all can be happy(NGD and us too).
I saw amun down some hours agò so i think they are working really day by day and many hours.

[bois]

They are. This update is huge and the variables involved are mind boggling.

They are doing fine and remember , this iteration is probably maybe the 4th of possibly 7 or 8 with a lot of granular tweaks to go. Expect lots of other modifications, some of which are under the hood and really will not be felt by players very easily.
On my knight is see numerous tactical opportunities and considering my opponents have the same constraints as me I am comforted by this.

Lastly, Archers are basically in their first big iteration and warriors/ conjurers probably in round 2 or 3. As time goes on they will be tuned. As will pets, summons and the like. Don't forget that they will address other things like invasions, forts, gates, and such. Boss mobs will be adjusted later on too. Maybe on the regen rate side. Who knows. Also, with the map editor up, I do expect a few changes to the terrain around forts such as rocks ,trees etc. that give tactical options (hint, hint).

Regards
Artec

[lord_dvl]

Maybe you shall translate this and post it in the spanish forum..... they are nuts about this update :P.

To your post just i would like to add that maybe we just have to start thinking in this would be like start again playing this game, i mean, like the first time, may be with this more people will understand.

See ya.

[Klutu]

I agree - Though i admit in the begining i was very worried about this update. Now I have began to favor & look forward to this update. It still needs some tweaks but I think this update will improve the game drastically

Wish other players would be more constructive instead of complaining & threatening to boycott premium content.

If you hate & fear this update so much when it finally goes live I just hope the people who dislike it so much will just quit instead of spamming the forum with the same Bullshit over & over again.

[Anyriand]

I find it very funny that the people I've seen in several posts and threads siding with NGD the most ever since the balancing began on Amun are those with ubber gear...anyone else?

Some people might see this update as a good thing, but you have to understand, others might not. It's a matter of respect. So maybe it's time to start respecting those who's opinions might differ. People have been testing, experimenting, and giving feedback. The feedback might not the positive but well, it can't always be right?

[Gideon_Slack]

The problem with this update is that it is far more than a nerf (or a removal of a class i.e. stealth/speed).

It is changing the basic way the game is played. Like people say when they're divorcing: "I didn't sign up for this."

Sony did the same in 2005 with Star Wars Galaxies, and their New Game Enhancements. Many people protested, a minority liked it. History has sided with the critics.

[bois]

I don't think that it is so much about uber gear and lack of respect and such.

I will copy something I wrote elsewhere.

Most times change is difficult. What makes it worse is that you don't
A: Understand the mechanics of the change,
B: Understand why the change is needed,
C: Understand where the change is leading to,
D: Understand where you fit in the change.

and:

To players: What I have done is this. Understand the past in this game. Acknowledge the sum total of my knowledge and experience to the point of the live server.
Throw out the whole thing in my mind and come to Amun as if it is a blank slate and with an open mind. Rebuild knowledge based on the new concepts here and have my past experience and knowledge colour it.
Come to terms with conceptual changes and understand that in many ways this game is new and as such many of us will have to start again.
Essential point, start again as if this is a new game. In many respects it is.

Good luck everyone and may clarity that comes with starting over guide you an colour your future posts.

A lot of what we see as complaints are due in some part to the above, and general reluctance to change what has become very comfortable and routine.
A wall is put up as resistance against change and as such mental blocks arise, choking off the ability to see possibly new opportunities.

Is the update perfect? by no means. Even after iterations and this goes live I do expect hot fixes and patches to soon follow. NGD is not doing this out of ego or something like that . They have a vision . The only thing is they can see it all and we can only see fragments.

I was concerned in the early stages. Not so much now. Pieces are falling into place. And I don't have much uber gear. Shop bought shield yaya. Regular special axe that an Aquantis was so kind to gift.

Artec.

[Froste]

Originally Posted by Anyriand

I find it very funny that the people I've seen in several posts and threads siding with NGD the most ever since the balancing began on Amun are those with ubber gear...anyone else?

I'm against NGD calling it balancing, it's not. I reference my own post 'evaluation of balancing' in the Balance forum. They're redesigning the entire gameplay, just like they've always done every big update.

The difference between this update and the previous ones is that this one has a fairly clear end goal. The previous ones just ripped gaping chunks out of the gameplay, whereas this update seeks to put more gameplay in, albeit radically redesigned. For this update I'm siding with NGD and I don't have any super gear, nor do a lot of the people who've voiced their support. From the looks of things I think the new gameplay will reintroduce some fun into the game that has been sorely lacking.

So no, not everyone who sides with NGD has über gear.