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Old 08-17-2010, 11:05 PM   #1
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Hello everyone

Many of you requested this info.
Here you have a population distribution of active 40+ level characters in RA and Horus

Marksman: 11,31%
Knight: 13,52%
Warlock: 15,24%
Barbarian: 16,80%
Hunter: 21,14%
Conjurer: 21,99%

this are my personal feelings (not NGD's)

Marksmans: Boring to play
Knight: Too hard to level and very low damage
Warlock: OK (OP)
Barbarian: OK (OP but whining)
Hunter: Super OP and too versatile
Conjurer: Super OP, too versatile and too easy to level (because of broken summons and many ways to regen)


please take into account that this is before the update. We have tackled the grinding of knights for example and we are trying to put a limit on hunter's versatility

feel free to post your ideas about this and short/small suggestions 1 per class... please don't post if you don't follow this pattern
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:16 PM   #2
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Can we get a split between Ra and Horus figures please.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:18 PM   #3
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Here are the percentages by overall class:

Archer: 32.45%

Warrior: 30.32%

Mage: 37.23%

(Hope this is okay to post).

EDIT: Even distribution of all subclasses would be 16.7% each.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:28 PM   #4
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If we could see numbers about activity of ever class(if it's possible), I think numbers would be different. But anyway nice to see this list looks like marksman are rare.

marksman are static because of mana issues/need to stay still while shooting. So maybe bring back ability to move and shoot for marksmen class and see how it works.

warlocks are balancing between power and fragility, GCD update makes them weaker so maybe add some new area that explodes enemy corpses or some summoning skills (like necromancers in some games).

conjurers are super easy to grind with zarkit, but with full support setup it is harder + less exp, so maybe do something that makes supporting more rewarding.

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Old 08-17-2010, 11:32 PM   #5
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Having played every class, this is how I rate them as the most frustrating to the least frustrating to play (in war):

In a scale--
Most Frustrating

Barbarian: Reason -- Mana-hungry. CC'd to the point of unplayability. Heavily targeted. Resists/Evades making the risks of charging almost not worth it and destroys fun.
Knight: Reason -- Too little damage, slow, blocking unreliable and unpredictable.
Conjurer: Reason -- Hard to target allies, heavily targeted. Plusses, allied heals/mana/buffs NEVER get resisted.
Marksman: Reason -- Not versatile enough, but good mix of range and damage. Still, too mana-hungry.
Hunter: Reason -- SUPER OP
Warlock: Reason -- SUPER OP

Least Frustrating
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:39 PM   #6
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I wouldnt consider Marksman boring, it greatly differs on your playstyle there.

The following 2 main extremes:

Heavy CC:

You can configure it to be very versatile and offer a good amount of support throught single target CCs while maintaining good (ranged) defense. High range there will be used very situational.

Sniping:
On another hand you can skill for a maximum ranged Sniper with limited cc capabilities and less defense, this is more boring to play. You use your points to max out damage and range and you have not much left over what allows you the kind of dynamic interaction i consider as much fun.

Theres much tradeoffs you can do from one to another but these 2 ways id consider the 2 major playstyles you see on marks.

For both ways the biggest drawback is the mana consumption in my opinion.



Another note:
Marks now lost all of his class defining special abilities beside the superior range.

DS was the last real group support no other class could give. The ranged areas are generally poor and the only one with cc effect has a very weak one (which still have to be tried out with Amun version in war though). The DS replacement we get doesnt change anything about this. Another damage boost spell, not adding to the fun.

Give us something special, something tactical, something fun!
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now im wondering how many of them are active and higher lvl
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:46 PM   #8
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Hello everyone
[COLOR=Red]Marksmans: Boring to play
Knight: Too hard to level and very low damage
Warlock: OK (OP)
Barbarian: OK (OP but whining)
Hunter: Super OP and too versatile
Conjurer: Super OP, too versatile and too easy to level (because of broken summons and many ways to regen)


feel free to post your ideas about this and short/small suggestions 1 per class... please don't post if you don't follow this pattern
RA:
Marksmans: Too static gameplay.

Knight: Each mob lasts hours plus low damage and crappy defenses.

Warlock: OK

Barbarian: Numerically ok, gameplay is horrible, almost no attack spells for a offensive class, just tons of buffs and useless debuffs with ridiculous costs or even invocation times, i would make their trees more marksman like, with DoT, fixed damages, dizzies. Anything that isnt a debuff that nobody would cast or does weapon damage, or yet another buff. They do not to be more powerful, they just to rely less on buffs and have more active skills that actually kill stuff and not empower normal hits even more.

Hunter: Op, because of tech problems, speed, pet damage, confuse and insane defenses for pvp.
Conjurer: OP, too versatile and too easy to everything.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:52 PM   #9
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now im wondering how many of them are active and higher lvl
Here you have a population distribution of active 40+ level characters in RA and Horus

All of them.
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:53 PM   #10
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the archer class needs to be able to move and shoot . but that will make the hunters way overpowered what needs to happen to the hunter class is the whole pet tree needs replaced with something more towards defensive help for the group
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