New Balance Update: Armor system fix (Stage 11)

chilko · 08-30-2010, 09:55 PM

Hello Everyone!

Stage 11 is up on Amun!

Armor System fixes

BUG FIX: multi damage should be calculated properly
BUG FIX: Armor factor per class working as intended
New calculation for damage bonuses to make weapon damage bonus work always positively

Other changes:

First iteration of balance for summons
New graphic model and variations for Liches.
New spawn animations
New weapon damage calculation for mobs

HuntShot · 08-30-2010, 10:04 PM

No BIIGGG Changes this time?

Topogigio_BR · 08-30-2010, 10:13 PM

They changed damage, armor and damage bonus and you say no bog changes.

HuntShot · 08-30-2010, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gallus

They changed damage, armor and damage bonus and you say no bog changes.

why did you left is 10 mins ago..... we killed Aysor

But now on Topic the New Liches look AMAZING Nice done

_Arwen_ · 08-30-2010, 10:18 PM

Glad to see you guys cranking out another stage, I only have 2 questions:

1) If you try to summon next to an obstacle you get the message "No space for summon" which forces you into cool down but still places the icon as a "Buff" under your name in the top left. Is this intentional?

2) I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but can we get the exact formula used to calculate damage and armor so we can check to make sure all combinations of bonus' and gems are working properly?

LupeFiasco · 08-30-2010, 11:13 PM

Sounds interesting, lets test my college connection!

Topogigio_BR · 08-30-2010, 11:29 PM

I still think the mana cost/effect time/damage is not set right for summons.
Lich shaman (lvl5) is 500 mana, 40s, for around 160 damage, i think slow, to much mana cost for low effect time and not to big damage.
Expect for golens that the damage is right, lower than live server demons but rigth.

In amum we have 3 summons demon/lich/golem i would suggest to make one fast, one med and one slow, that will make then more usable. I would suggest make the first summon fast, as they are the first newbies have acess, and newbies generaly dont have much range so is better to have fast atack.

Lich and demon has to little effect time, have no fun casting summons all time make than at least 120 sec.

Although golem damage is fine, i think he has low hp/armour for a meele atacker, if conjus cannot heal summons i think is fair for meele summon have more hp or armour.

I liked the new lichs but i think lich lord(lvl4) is more cool than Shaman lich (lvl5), i would change then.

I think imps and zombies were not revised, am i right?

Altara · 08-31-2010, 02:04 AM

The golems commands on the bottom dont work for me, (using level 5 at the time)
trying to select one makes me untarget as if the bar wasn't there and I was just clicking the ground.

Isemon · 08-31-2010, 07:11 AM

Summon cost is right imo, since the efford to be a summoner have to be like that.

BUT

still life tree is not appealing enough, mana cost are too high there, and for example 20% heal ally is a strange way to heal, i mean: a knight receive 1000+ heal while a mage or a archer receive 600-700 heal, knight being able to receive more damage with all his protections should receive less than a defenseless mage that need more help to stay alive. That spell should be adjusted according to the class you healing, for example for knight is right 20% for mages and archer could be 25%.

Also the new spell mass heal should have less cd to be attractive 240 sec for 500/650 hp is not worth 5 points. I could understand more 180 sec.

tjanex · 08-31-2010, 07:38 AM

I like this one so far even though I aggree with Isemon

08-30-2010, 09:55 PM	#1
chilko NGD·Studios Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 892	New Balance Update: Armor system fix (Stage 11) Hello Everyone! Stage 11 is up on Amun! Armor System fixes BUG FIX: multi damage should be calculated properly BUG FIX: Armor factor per class working as intended New calculation for damage bonuses to make weapon damage bonus work always positively Other changes: First iteration of balance for summons New graphic model and variations for Liches. New spawn animations New weapon damage calculation for mobs Last edited by chilko; 08-30-2010 at 10:56 PM.

08-30-2010, 10:18 PM	#5
_Arwen_ Apprentice Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 98	Glad to see you guys cranking out another stage, I only have 2 questions: 1) If you try to summon next to an obstacle you get the message "No space for summon" which forces you into cool down but still places the icon as a "Buff" under your name in the top left. Is this intentional? 2) I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but can we get the exact formula used to calculate damage and armor so we can check to make sure all combinations of bonus' and gems are working properly? __________________ Arwen - Level 50 Conjurer \| Uruviel - Level 50 Hunter \| Cheesepuff - Level 50 Marksman Cheeseburger - Level 50 Warlock \| Cheesecake - Level 50 Barb \| Aelean - Level 50 Knight

08-30-2010, 11:13 PM	#6
LupeFiasco Pledge Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 41	Sounds interesting, lets test my college connection! __________________ Fiasco--Lupe--Lupen Horus & Raven / Ra & Nemon Where Cookies Happen

08-31-2010, 02:04 AM	#8
Altara Apprentice Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 79	The golems commands on the bottom dont work for me, (using level 5 at the time) trying to select one makes me untarget as if the bar wasn't there and I was just clicking the ground. __________________ Adelle - Volari The shadows followed by the stars have turned to gold.

08-31-2010, 07:11 AM	#9
Isemon Initiate Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 127	Summon cost is right imo, since the efford to be a summoner have to be like that. BUT still life tree is not appealing enough, mana cost are too high there, and for example 20% heal ally is a strange way to heal, i mean: a knight receive 1000+ heal while a mage or a archer receive 600-700 heal, knight being able to receive more damage with all his protections should receive less than a defenseless mage that need more help to stay alive. That spell should be adjusted according to the class you healing, for example for knight is right 20% for mages and archer could be 25%. Also the new spell mass heal should have less cd to be attractive 240 sec for 500/650 hp is not worth 5 points. I could understand more 180 sec. __________________ Italiani di Syrtis Isemon[Conjurer] - Hunthor[Hunter] - Elrik[Barbarian] - Nekronos[Warlock]

08-30-2010, 10:04 PM	#2
HuntShot Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 468	No BIIGGG Changes this time?

08-30-2010, 10:13 PM	#3
Topogigio_BR Baron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 622	They changed damage, armor and damage bonus and you say no bog changes.

08-30-2010, 11:29 PM	#7
Topogigio_BR Baron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 622	I still think the mana cost/effect time/damage is not set right for summons. Lich shaman (lvl5) is 500 mana, 40s, for around 160 damage, i think slow, to much mana cost for low effect time and not to big damage. Expect for golens that the damage is right, lower than live server demons but rigth. In amum we have 3 summons demon/lich/golem i would suggest to make one fast, one med and one slow, that will make then more usable. I would suggest make the first summon fast, as they are the first newbies have acess, and newbies generaly dont have much range so is better to have fast atack. Lich and demon has to little effect time, have no fun casting summons all time make than at least 120 sec. Although golem damage is fine, i think he has low hp/armour for a meele atacker, if conjus cannot heal summons i think is fair for meele summon have more hp or armour. I liked the new lichs but i think lich lord(lvl4) is more cool than Shaman lich (lvl5), i would change then. I think imps and zombies were not revised, am i right?

08-31-2010, 07:38 AM	#10
tjanex Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Netherlands 8-D Posts: 653	I like this one so far even though I aggree with Isemon