Invisible Armors - Angle Dependent

[Zordak]

Similar to previously reported bugs concerning costumes - specifically the skeleton suit - i have trouble with *all* armor pieces (including tunics) above level 50.

As before this is strongly viewing angle dependent, i can see the armors if i move the camera in a certain position. Unfortunately this position is hardly usable for playing, also enemies refuse to come only from the corresponding direction towards me.
This is not a problem on my side, i am apparently not missing any ressources.

While this was a nuissance with invisible lowlever armors and save guards, it became a pain with introduction of the skeletton costume. Now it starts to become unbearable: Barbs popping up next to me because i can only see a floating sword and a helmet greatly reduces the fun for me.

This seems to appear only on linux, i have never experienced this problem on windows - though i didnt try the opengl renderer there.

Z.

[now the tech line: core i5 2500, nvidia 430, arch linux x64, nvidia version 270.30]

[Arafails]

Same problems here with ATi Radeon 4200, Debian sid (x86_64), AMD Catalyst driver 11.2

Although, I think it's more distance, ie. LoD, dependent. Lowest character details are visible, higher ones aren't.

[Quincebo]

heard this before
it was something about the shader, but because i don't have this problem i forgat the solution

[OpperVaagheid]

Same problem on my other pc here. Event tunic are not visible. Only the default gear. So for archers you only would see a helmet and a bow.

[Zordak]

Originally Posted by Quincebo

heard this before
it was something about the shader, but because i don't have this problem i forgat the solution

Hm, indeed i can see the archer guards armor perfectly when in fixed pipeline. But its wrong with shader 2.0+ if the hardware skinning option is set.

Anyone a clue what this option does?

Z.

[Anpu]

Also shader 4/Linux, Skeleton/Alienware armor is invisible on bigger distance

[Kitsuni]

Disable hardware skinning, it is bugged in the OpenGL renderer, just like weapon beams.

[OpperVaagheid]

Originally Posted by Kitsunie

Disable hardware skinning, it is bugged in the OpenGL renderer, just like weapon beams.

And how do we do that?

[Arafails]

Originally Posted by OpperVaagheid

And how do we do that?

It's under advanced options, but it's a disabled checkbox for shader model 2.0, suggesting it doesn't get used on it. Seeing as my GPU is integrated, I run at 3-4fps on SM3/4, so why do I have the problem if it's caused by it?

[Kitsuni]

Originally Posted by Arafails

It's under advanced options, but it's a disabled checkbox for shader model 2.0, suggesting it doesn't get used on it. Seeing as my GPU is integrated, I run at 3-4fps on SM3/4, so why do I have the problem if it's caused by it?

Shader Model 2 was the first version of completely reprogrammable shaders (pixel shaders) introduced with the GeForce FX, thus some things can't be enabled or disabled on it. The later revisions added more flexibility, at the cost of performance and requiring better hardware. To summarize; NGD would have to stop using whatever feature is causing it, as it can't be disabled directly, and seeing as how the skeleton and Alienware costumes still have bad rendering issues around the edges, they've shown zero interest in fixing them.