Just a thought.

[NSer]

What about splitting rogue and hunters?

[Zas_]

Originally Posted by NSer

What about splitting rogue and hunters?

Well, since it needs to NGD 4-5 months to rollback a bad move ... you can expect implementation on such idea around 2039 ... XD
I like the idea, but ...

[PT_DaAr_PT]

My friend on IRC has a thought too you see every save altar in the war zone should be deleted because why the hell do we even have them it's supposed to be a war zone ffs this will make conjurers more important and give hunters a more important role in the warzone also it will put more reality in the game and will make players think twice before dying right now people just die without thinking and respawn back at the altar and can come back at any time they want where's the fun in that ffs let them all equally spawn at the gate no matter what fort is taken oh and also give the realm a malus for losing a fort yeah they should take defending their realm more serious and not grind I suggest give a -15% malus for each fort lost and level 60 need some kind of malus too they need an incentive to regain their fort back some may continue to hunt for hours even when their realm is being invaded ffs they should get some kind of penalty how about 25% less RP from enemies killed outside the taken fort's surrounding sounds like a good incentive to me if they don't wanna come defend their realm then at least shouldn't stay immune from the xp malus like their fellow grinders now about the attackers they deserve some kind of reward for taking the fort I dunno maybe WM coins for holding the fort for 30 minutes or something that should keep them motivated to fight for instead of just capturing and leaving after that. Watcha think?

[Kitsuni]

Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT

My friend on IRC has a thought too you see every save altar in the war zone should be deleted because why the hell do we even have them it's supposed to be a war zone ffs this will make conjurers more important and give hunters a more important role in the warzone also it will put more reality in the game and will make players think twice before dying right now people just die without thinking and respawn back at the altar and can come back at any time they want where's the fun in that ffs let them all equally spawn at the gate no matter what fort is taken oh and also give the realm a malus for losing a fort yeah they should take defending their realm more serious and not grind I suggest give a -15% malus for each fort lost and level 60 need some kind of malus too they need an incentive to regain their fort back some may continue to hunt for hours even when their realm is being invaded ffs they should get some kind of penalty how about 25% less RP from enemies killed outside the taken fort's surrounding sounds like a good incentive to me if they don't wanna come defend their realm then at least shouldn't stay immune from the xp malus like their fellow grinders now about the attackers they deserve some kind of reward for taking the fort I dunno maybe WM coins for holding the fort for 30 minutes or something that should keep them motivated to fight for instead of just capturing and leaving after that. Watcha think?

As funny as I find this well-crafted sarcasm... holy BLOCK of TEXT. o_o

[_Seinvan]

Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT

My friend on IRC has a thought too you see every save altar in the war zone should be deleted because why the hell do we even have them it's supposed to be a war zone ffs this will make conjurers more important and give hunters a more important role in the warzone also it will put more reality in the game and will make players think twice before dying right now people just die without thinking and respawn back at the altar and can come back at any time they want where's the fun in that ffs let them all equally spawn at the gate no matter what fort is taken oh and also give the realm a malus for losing a fort yeah they should take defending their realm more serious and not grind I suggest give a -15% malus for each fort lost and level 60 need some kind of malus too they need an incentive to regain their fort back some may continue to hunt for hours even when their realm is being invaded ffs they should get some kind of penalty how about 25% less RP from enemies killed outside the taken fort's surrounding sounds like a good incentive to me if they don't wanna come defend their realm then at least shouldn't stay immune from the xp malus like their fellow grinders now about the attackers they deserve some kind of reward for taking the fort I dunno maybe WM coins for holding the fort for 30 minutes or something that should keep them motivated to fight for instead of just capturing and leaving after that. Watcha think?

ur friend is a GENIUS

[AMPZORD]

Originally Posted by Kitsunie

As funny as I find this well-crafted sarcasm... holy BLOCK of TEXT. o_o

Yeah I told him to change that but he really thinks that giving suggestions anymore ain't really change NGD vision and it will be just a waste of precious timing although he collected some time to write our discussion on IRC.

Originally Posted by _Seinvan

ur friend is a GENIUS

Yeah that's me although there were still some additions in the suggestion by DaAr.
Thanks.

[AMPZORD]

Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT

My friend on IRC has a thought too you see every save altar in the war zone should be deleted because why the hell do we even have them it's supposed to be a war zone ffs this will make conjurers more important and give hunters a more important role in the warzone also it will put more reality in the game and will make players think twice before dying right now people just die without thinking and respawn back at the altar and can come back at any time they want where's the fun in that ffs let them all equally spawn at the gate no matter what fort is taken oh and also give the realm a malus for losing a fort yeah they should take defending their realm more serious and not grind I suggest give a -15% malus for each fort lost and level 60 need some kind of malus too they need an incentive to regain their fort back some may continue to hunt for hours even when their realm is being invaded ffs they should get some kind of penalty how about 25% less RP from enemies killed outside the taken fort's surrounding sounds like a good incentive to me if they don't wanna come defend their realm then at least shouldn't stay immune from the xp malus like their fellow grinders now about the attackers they deserve some kind of reward for taking the fort I dunno maybe WM coins for holding the fort for 30 minutes or something that should keep them motivated to fight for instead of just capturing and leaving after that. Watcha think?

What we really wanna change/debate is that WAR needs to be incentivated, mostly on Horus, because people sometimes get Aggesborg and it stays untouched for hours without a single Alsius coming to try to recover it.
What we want is to increase WAR by adding such increasing values recovering the fort such for the low levels and level 60(WM) giving a penalization for a conquered fort of an enemy realm in your realm and if he gets even the 2nd fort give the double penalization.
By the offensive side you should be rewarded for such action, increasing WAR. You should get some kind of reward for low levels some experience? gold? for a Warmaster, that's a tricky one why would you war?
One suggestion diminisush the countdown of your Dragon? and Epic monster? by the time spent in the fort. Give Warmaster coins too for capture?
By 15 hours of the duration of a capturable fort create a spawn of a dragon in the central island where your realm, only and only, can enter the boats and go kill it.
Mainly the importance is to increase WAR giving bonus and penalizations for incentivation.
Other issue the saves on WZ, why even make saves in the first place? you go to algaros you try to capture it and you kill your enemy automatically he revives and tries to kill you? now imagine this with more than one guy.
Die? no problem save near.
remove saves from WZ if you die you go directly to gate making conjurers much more important and hunters a bit, only a bit more because tracking enemy zergs could be handy but still their role is a complete flaw in RvR.
Last and not forgotten is the Invasions you invade you destroy the door, you try to achieve the gems, automatically the defensive realm tries to reach the battle faster because they know if they die and still get some kills they will revive at the wall. The easy play die, revive? NO.
You should choose the best situation to fight and you should only have one chance to do it not go after the enemy always knowing you will revive near gate again.
This is a problem I haven't found solution how to solve, so if you have ideas I would be glad to know.

Some examples above are completely random examples.

[jesus2]

Srry guys but isnt this thread talkin about splitting hunters into rogues and hunter??Me iiiiiiz confuuuuuuzed

[PT_DaAr_PT]

Originally Posted by jesus2

Srry guys but isnt this thread talkin about splitting hunters into rogues and hunter??Me iiiiiiz confuuuuuuzed

Read the title again, it's about thoughts. Hope I helped.

[Wield_II]

Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT

Read the title again, it's about thoughts. Hope I helped.

It clearly say's a thought, not multiple thoughts.
Hope I helped.