exhange ximering for wmc

EMIN · 11-22-2011, 11:39 AM

I was thinking about if NGD could add a premium item with which you can exchange ximerin with a reasonable amount of warmaster coins. I've also noticed that many players who want to be warmasters cant acomplish both quests in a day so its hard for them to become warmasters.Moreover this will beneficial for NGD since they will earn loads of money for this premium item.However,thats just a thought which I hope you like
regards
reble

ieti · 11-22-2011, 12:14 PM

Well it is War Master. Sooo you have to war a little. Before we got 50's who leveled just by staying inside. Good NGD fixed this for upto 60 grind. Now you want to have WM's without joining a single battle?

Hmm we better not have this one.

Eyfura · 11-22-2011, 12:43 PM

Hell no. At least we have in this game one thing that you cant have with real life money - warmaster. You can get lvl45 with money, you can buy 500% boosters to get lvl60 in few days, you can even get full epic gear with money. You dont actually need to play the game to get lvl60 and the best possible gears, so at least keep the wm like its now...

bois · 11-22-2011, 01:02 PM

No thanks, as said above, we have enough premium to get a player to level 60 quickly. That is one prerequisite for Warmaster. That is enough.

Accomplishing the quests daily may be difficult depending on time zone yes, however, it is still possible with help from allies. In any case is it such a big deal if you don't finish in a day ? On my way to warmaster there were many, many days I did not complete even in 2 days. I didn't have the luxury of killing the nobles either like many have a chance now.
Enjoy the journey, it is actually more fun than the destination. besides, if you have war master allies, you have access to warmaster powers anyway. You have from 50 to 60 to get there and at least you can say at the end, "I paid my dues to hold the title"

Regards

standistortion · 11-22-2011, 01:07 PM

Hell no. Premium only armor enhancements is bad enough, might as well just sell a scroll of warmastery if this is introduced.

VeterKh · 11-22-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gamias7

I was thinking about if NGD could add a premium item with which you can exchange ximerin with a reasonable amount of warmaster coins. I've also noticed that many players who want to be warmasters cant acomplish both quests in a day so its hard for them to become warmasters.Moreover this will beneficial for NGD since they will earn loads of money for this premium item.However,thats just a thought which I hope you like
regards
reble

rofl... maybe you need premium scroll, around 150k xims, and you got 60 wm for 1 minute of your life?

Shwish · 11-22-2011, 01:12 PM

Don't you still need to spend money to make the warmaster gears useful?

Yes if ngd implemented this they would make a few extra bucks but money isn't always what's important. What the warmaster gears bring to the game is something to work towards to say you earned instead of plainly bought. Its a reason to stay in the game once the fun of raiding random forts becomes stale. Besides ngd still makes money off enhancements.

the whole idea of being a warmaster is the experience of war you have and your ability to lead your army. I wouldn't want to follow a leader who earned his title by whipping out a credit card.

Kitsuni · 11-22-2011, 01:51 PM

This is a bad idea, but there are a few things that I believe would help the situation alot:
1) Make WM coins account-wide, so if you play mutliple characters your chances of getting WM are not lowered.
2) Add more quests that give WM coins. The current ones are boring and repetitive. Perhaps make new quests based upon RvR achievments.

But what about swapping RP with WM coins? Remove the Realm Points system entirely and make it so that WM coins are what is earned from battle.
(But not enough to replace the quests, of course, as that would remove some incentive for horses and teleport scrolls.)

Example:
You have defeated johndoe
You earn 10 Warmaster coins

Also, make it so that players can get on the rankings based upon how much WM coins they have. This gives an incentive to do the quests indefinitely.

Elarinya · 11-22-2011, 02:23 PM

no1. Move this to suggestions !

no2. Bad idea ...

no3. If NgD wants to earn more money ... make market where ppl can sell premium items or ximerin for ingame money aka gold or mags,amber,quartz,rocks etc ...

lvl 60s without gold would put some amount of xim on market for gold for repair bills

Players interested to have mag weapons/armours or whatever would mags be for use -- could sell xim for mags ...

If there would be use of other rock loots ... well guess ...

This is an way how will NgD make more money and players that cant buy xim in their countrys would have chance to get mount,xp boosters,banners etc etc etc ...

bois · 11-22-2011, 02:42 PM

Selling Ximerin (aka real money) for in game items is not a great idea either.

NGD has been able to stay clear of nefarious schemes and questionable issues other MMOs face by keeping those things quite separated. The few bucks they would make would not be worth the headaches that such a move would introduce.

We got repair hammers we can buy for Xim. If you got Xim you don't need gold for the repairs. In either case you can use Xim to "farm' indirectly by buying lucky box items and selling them off or via direct barter.
* I do get that you mean that Xim flows to players not able to get any but this could be troublesome the way you suggest. A gift system is easier to police.

Xim for mags hmm. The mag duping scandal should be instructive on this one.

Edit: another way is of course to use the achievement system and let a few achievements pay out a nominal amount of Ximerin as an encouragement. Of course the amount is small but if you are prepared to work hard you might be able to max out at the cheapest horse. In effect free but at a cost of your warm body contributing to activity on the server which gives it the appearance of life.

11-22-2011, 11:39 AM	#1
EMIN Initiate Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bosnia,The Netherlands Posts: 147	exhange ximering for wmc I was thinking about if NGD could add a premium item with which you can exchange ximerin with a reasonable amount of warmaster coins. I've also noticed that many players who want to be warmasters cant acomplish both quests in a day so its hard for them to become warmasters.Moreover this will beneficial for NGD since they will earn loads of money for this premium item.However,thats just a thought which I hope you like regards reble

11-22-2011, 12:14 PM	#2
ieti Count Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Posts: 1,374	Well it is War Master. Sooo you have to war a little. Before we got 50's who leveled just by staying inside. Good NGD fixed this for upto 60 grind. Now you want to have WM's without joining a single battle? Hmm we better not have this one. __________________ RA \| Ignis \| Lilla My \| Conjurer \| EVIL IGNIS ROCK Horus \| Syrtis \| ieti \| Conjurer \| INQUISITION \| LONG GONE

11-22-2011, 02:42 PM	#10
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	Selling Ximerin (aka real money) for in game items is not a great idea either. NGD has been able to stay clear of nefarious schemes and questionable issues other MMOs face by keeping those things quite separated. The few bucks they would make would not be worth the headaches that such a move would introduce. We got repair hammers we can buy for Xim. If you got Xim you don't need gold for the repairs. In either case you can use Xim to "farm' indirectly by buying lucky box items and selling them off or via direct barter. * I do get that you mean that Xim flows to players not able to get any but this could be troublesome the way you suggest. A gift system is easier to police. Xim for mags hmm. The mag duping scandal should be instructive on this one. Edit: another way is of course to use the achievement system and let a few achievements pay out a nominal amount of Ximerin as an encouragement. Of course the amount is small but if you are prepared to work hard you might be able to max out at the cheapest horse. In effect free but at a cost of your warm body contributing to activity on the server which gives it the appearance of life. Last edited by bois; 11-22-2011 at 02:58 PM.

11-22-2011, 12:43 PM	#3
Eyfura Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 150	Hell no. At least we have in this game one thing that you cant have with real life money - warmaster. You can get lvl45 with money, you can buy 500% boosters to get lvl60 in few days, you can even get full epic gear with money. You dont actually need to play the game to get lvl60 and the best possible gears, so at least keep the wm like its now...

11-22-2011, 01:02 PM	#4
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	No thanks, as said above, we have enough premium to get a player to level 60 quickly. That is one prerequisite for Warmaster. That is enough. Accomplishing the quests daily may be difficult depending on time zone yes, however, it is still possible with help from allies. In any case is it such a big deal if you don't finish in a day ? On my way to warmaster there were many, many days I did not complete even in 2 days. I didn't have the luxury of killing the nobles either like many have a chance now. Enjoy the journey, it is actually more fun than the destination. besides, if you have war master allies, you have access to warmaster powers anyway. You have from 50 to 60 to get there and at least you can say at the end, "I paid my dues to hold the title" Regards

11-22-2011, 01:07 PM	#5
standistortion Master Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 438	Hell no. Premium only armor enhancements is bad enough, might as well just sell a scroll of warmastery if this is introduced.

11-22-2011, 01:12 PM	#7
Shwish Baron Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Africa Posts: 906	Don't you still need to spend money to make the warmaster gears useful? Yes if ngd implemented this they would make a few extra bucks but money isn't always what's important. What the warmaster gears bring to the game is something to work towards to say you earned instead of plainly bought. Its a reason to stay in the game once the fun of raiding random forts becomes stale. Besides ngd still makes money off enhancements. the whole idea of being a warmaster is the experience of war you have and your ability to lead your army. I wouldn't want to follow a leader who earned his title by whipping out a credit card.

11-22-2011, 01:51 PM	#8
Kitsuni Baron Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 886	This is a bad idea, but there are a few things that I believe would help the situation alot: 1) Make WM coins account-wide, so if you play mutliple characters your chances of getting WM are not lowered. 2) Add more quests that give WM coins. The current ones are boring and repetitive. Perhaps make new quests based upon RvR achievments. But what about swapping RP with WM coins? Remove the Realm Points system entirely and make it so that WM coins are what is earned from battle. (But not enough to replace the quests, of course, as that would remove some incentive for horses and teleport scrolls.) Example: You have defeated johndoe You earn 10 Warmaster coins Also, make it so that players can get on the rankings based upon how much WM coins they have. This gives an incentive to do the quests indefinitely.

11-22-2011, 02:23 PM	#9
Elarinya Pledge Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 6	no1. Move this to suggestions ! no2. Bad idea ... no3. If NgD wants to earn more money ... make market where ppl can sell premium items or ximerin for ingame money aka gold or mags,amber,quartz,rocks etc ... lvl 60s without gold would put some amount of xim on market for gold for repair bills Players interested to have mag weapons/armours or whatever would mags be for use -- could sell xim for mags ... If there would be use of other rock loots ... well guess ... This is an way how will NgD make more money and players that cant buy xim in their countrys would have chance to get mount,xp boosters,banners etc etc etc ...