Knights When Hunting

JainFarstrider · 03-03-2012, 02:43 PM

Heya,
I've noticed that most knights don't really hunt much. They tell me that it's really boring and hard to hunt on a knight. Does anyone think this could be changed? Knights really are a nice part of gameplay in Regnum. It's kind of sad to see so few of them around in Regnum's classic style of play.

BTW: I forgot how knights hunted before Ignis chat was taken off in warzone/before invasions started (which one was first?) Please refresh my memory ha ha.

EMIN · 03-03-2012, 03:11 PM

as an experienced knight( blablabla

) I think that its hard to hunt with a knight.
First and foremost knight is a non range class so it will be hard to catch enemies but also to escape ranged enemies. Thats why most knight hunt in groups which include range.
Well, if you think that this isn't the right answer I have one more

Knight's job is to protect allies with auras so when a knight is in support setup there is no point in going hunt. However, if the knight is at knarb setup he can easily hunt even solo. Knarb is better than a barb

(except fort wars)

DkySven · 03-03-2012, 04:15 PM

The lack of speed and range make it hard for a knight to catch enemies when they are alone. In groups fights are mostly over by the time you finally catch up with your party. When your hunting party is overrun eventually, you are zerged by enemies, who force you in defensive stance and then (rightly) completely ignore you until you get out of that spell again or when everyone around you is dead.

On the rare occasion your hunting party does run into an even fight that lasts for some time, however, it is very fun to be part of the party.

For a knight it's more fun to look for small group fights when roaming the WZ in small parties, while other classes seem to prefer hit and run actions because of their speed and/or range.

bois · 03-03-2012, 05:09 PM

I agree with both Dky and gamias7. They are right on point.

In the old days we had spring at least but this was no match against hunter speed. The added fact that your defense was so random and server RNG dependent didn't help matters much. The fact that your range allies killed the target before you got there did not help much either.

In fact this still exists and is even worse because barb is faster, hits harder and everyone else has range offensive powers. The knight usually can only reap off aura/area leeching. Boring indeed.
We are normally the one to get and feel CC the worst. Most hunts I find myself either confused (5), darknessed, Slowed to nothing or frozen stiff for the majority. Not what I call a fun outing. The idea that my best anti-CC spell slows me 25% will not make me any more enthusiastic.

Knight is not really geared for hunting unless you make a full out Knarb. It could work then, if you mange to catch your opponent.

Ulti19 · 03-03-2012, 07:41 PM

Only thing knight can hunt solo is another knight, anything else can just run away. Sometimes though you find an opponent who fights to the end and this happens quite alot for me, so I don't find it too bad. Alot of barbs have the chance to run away but they don't. And ever since the level 60 cap a knight can have both defensive auras and and still hit decent and keep some cc's. Used to be one or the other.

But yeah hunting solo doesn't really work too well compared to if you want to do it with other classes. No range, no speed. Even if you go all knarb, goodluck catching stuff

EMIN · 03-03-2012, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulti19

Only thing knight can hunt solo is another knight, anything else can just run away. Sometimes though you find an opponent who fights to the end and this happens quite alot for me, so I don't find it too bad. Alot of barbs have the chance to run away but they don't. And ever since the level 60 cap a knight can have both defensive auras and and still hit decent and keep some cc's. Used to be one or the other.

But yeah hunting solo doesn't really work too well compared to if you want to do it with other classes. No range, no speed. Even if you go all knarb, goodluck catching stuff

I still can't have both supp and good hits :P

71175 · 03-03-2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulti19

Only thing knight can hunt solo is another knight, anything else can just run away. Sometimes though you find an opponent who fights to the end and this happens quite alot for me, so I don't find it too bad. Alot of barbs have the chance to run away but they don't. And ever since the level 60 cap a knight can have both defensive auras and and still hit decent and keep some cc's. Used to be one or the other.

But yeah hunting solo doesn't really work too well compared to if you want to do it with other classes. No range, no speed. Even if you go all knarb, goodluck catching stuff

Most underestimate knights for mentioned reason ^^

AboutGemBlockers · 03-03-2012, 10:47 PM

normally today hunted by knight. but only in the group.
WM daily quest for the Knight - as two fingers ...

Imago-Thunderfist · 03-04-2012, 08:45 PM

The hard part is reaching your enemy, but if you're in a knarb setup (and even in suport it is possible) just d-limb 5/ribs breaker/balestra/shield bash and the target is probably dead within... hopefully not a lot of time. D-limb (5) is really useful since you can use def suport without being outrun (if you prevent the target from dispelling himself/using speed buffs by dizzying him ofcourse).

Hunting with knight is a challenge, and if you're with another knight just make sure u have both onsl and PA, 1 with d-limb 5 and the other with MS. Works perfect in my own experience, and if not, just hug the closest tree ^^ (i'm still waiting for NGD to remove Rigorous Preparation and replace it with Plant Tree).

71175 · 03-04-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Imago-Thunderfist

(i'm still waiting for NGD to remove Rigorous Preparation and replace it with Plant Tree).

I'm still waiting for NGD to replace curse with instagib button.

03-03-2012, 02:43 PM	#1
JainFarstrider Initiate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Where the internet is bad Posts: 119	Knights When Hunting Heya, I've noticed that most knights don't really hunt much. They tell me that it's really boring and hard to hunt on a knight. Does anyone think this could be changed? Knights really are a nice part of gameplay in Regnum. It's kind of sad to see so few of them around in Regnum's classic style of play. BTW: I forgot how knights hunted before Ignis chat was taken off in warzone/before invasions started (which one was first?) Please refresh my memory ha ha. __________________ "My friends call me Big Phil, but you can call me sir"

03-03-2012, 03:11 PM	#2
EMIN Initiate Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Bosnia,The Netherlands Posts: 147	as an experienced knight( blablabla ) I think that its hard to hunt with a knight. First and foremost knight is a non range class so it will be hard to catch enemies but also to escape ranged enemies. Thats why most knight hunt in groups which include range. Well, if you think that this isn't the right answer I have one more Knight's job is to protect allies with auras so when a knight is in support setup there is no point in going hunt. However, if the knight is at knarb setup he can easily hunt even solo. Knarb is better than a barb (except fort wars) __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/MrEminRO

03-03-2012, 04:15 PM	#3
DkySven Marquis Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,076	The lack of speed and range make it hard for a knight to catch enemies when they are alone. In groups fights are mostly over by the time you finally catch up with your party. When your hunting party is overrun eventually, you are zerged by enemies, who force you in defensive stance and then (rightly) completely ignore you until you get out of that spell again or when everyone around you is dead. On the rare occasion your hunting party does run into an even fight that lasts for some time, however, it is very fun to be part of the party. For a knight it's more fun to look for small group fights when roaming the WZ in small parties, while other classes seem to prefer hit and run actions because of their speed and/or range. __________________ Dky Sven, level 54 knight (Ra) Valhalla Dky the Goat, level 35 conjurer(Ra) Dky Sven, level 51 knight(Horus) Something

03-03-2012, 07:41 PM	#5
Ulti19 Master Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 450	Only thing knight can hunt solo is another knight, anything else can just run away. Sometimes though you find an opponent who fights to the end and this happens quite alot for me, so I don't find it too bad. Alot of barbs have the chance to run away but they don't. And ever since the level 60 cap a knight can have both defensive auras and and still hit decent and keep some cc's. Used to be one or the other. But yeah hunting solo doesn't really work too well compared to if you want to do it with other classes. No range, no speed. Even if you go all knarb, goodluck catching stuff __________________

03-04-2012, 08:45 PM	#9
Imago-Thunderfist Initiate Join Date: May 2011 Location: Kingdom of the Netherlands Posts: 141	The hard part is reaching your enemy, but if you're in a knarb setup (and even in suport it is possible) just d-limb 5/ribs breaker/balestra/shield bash and the target is probably dead within... hopefully not a lot of time. D-limb (5) is really useful since you can use def suport without being outrun (if you prevent the target from dispelling himself/using speed buffs by dizzying him ofcourse). Hunting with knight is a challenge, and if you're with another knight just make sure u have both onsl and PA, 1 with d-limb 5 and the other with MS. Works perfect in my own experience, and if not, just hug the closest tree ^^ (i'm still waiting for NGD to remove Rigorous Preparation and replace it with Plant Tree). __________________ Mars Sanctus (Horus) Since October '08 Lot-Ionan "If you're going through hell, keep going"

03-03-2012, 05:09 PM	#4
bois Count Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Trinidad and Tobago Posts: 1,194	I agree with both Dky and gamias7. They are right on point. In the old days we had spring at least but this was no match against hunter speed. The added fact that your defense was so random and server RNG dependent didn't help matters much. The fact that your range allies killed the target before you got there did not help much either. In fact this still exists and is even worse because barb is faster, hits harder and everyone else has range offensive powers. The knight usually can only reap off aura/area leeching. Boring indeed. We are normally the one to get and feel CC the worst. Most hunts I find myself either confused (5), darknessed, Slowed to nothing or frozen stiff for the majority. Not what I call a fun outing. The idea that my best anti-CC spell slows me 25% will not make me any more enthusiastic. Knight is not really geared for hunting unless you make a full out Knarb. It could work then, if you mange to catch your opponent.

03-03-2012, 10:47 PM	#8
AboutGemBlockers Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4	normally today hunted by knight. but only in the group. WM daily quest for the Knight - as two fingers ...