Rockstar solution

[erttzzadfk]

Originally Posted by Raoh

I say, take the Rockstar solution.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...cheaters.shtml

Cheaters wont play against themselves, nor get anywhere.

From the Article
Anyone found to have used hacked saves, modded games, or other exploits to gain an unfair advantage in Max Payne 3 Multiplayer, or to circumvent the leaderboards will be quarantined from all other players into a "Cheaters Pool", where they'll only be able to compete in multiplayer matches with other confirmed miscreants. In the event we decide to absolve any of these cheaters for their past transgressions they may re-enter play with the general public, however a second offense will result in their indefinite banishment. In either case, we will be removing invalid leaderboard entries to ensure that the players at the top of the charts have earned their spots fairly.

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

@Raoh: I'm really surprised to read something constructive in here. *
It's not the first time i'm talking about this topic and i never heard about this rockstar solution before. Sounds very interesting and could be an option to handle this topic.
I dont think there will be enough interest to get money for another server. But we've got the testserver Amun and players are needed to play there.
Perhaps it would be possible to put this "cheater pool" we are talking about there step by step.
Not every cheater is just using complete programs like c* e* or smth like that. Some are interested in coding too - so perhaps it would be a chance for a constructive and finally helpful contact between cheaters and developers too, while having enough players to test updates there without losing customers and i'm sure it would be fair too to replace these players from the "normal" ranking to an "own" ranking this way.

@NGD-Team: What do you think about this idea and what do others think about this too?

[Raoh]

Being the originator , Ive said my peace about this.

Take Action or dont.

But there are solutions to the problem.

[erttzzadfk]

To avoid mixing of two different threads again, here are parts of the originator's statement found in an other thread again:

Originally Posted by Raoh

...An actual action, like the one I suggested showing how Rockstar deals with the situation, should be achieved.

....There are people who cheat every day. People who use glitches, game mechanic loopholes, everyday. What are they doing right now?

Playing.

You want to create a level playing field, quit complaining about it, and get the games betters to actually do something about it. ...

Originally Posted by Raoh

Take Action or dont.

[Kitsuni]

You mistakingly believe that everyone who gets blamed and punished for a crime, actually commited one.

Game companies and moderators make mistakes. This is therefor, the dumbest idea ever, and would cause little more than poo-slinging and money loss.

[Frosk]

Originally Posted by erttzzadfk

@NGD-Team: What do you think about this idea and what do others think about this too?

I don't really think investing on a new server exclusive for cheaters is quite a solution. The way I see it, it's just wasting money.

In fact, this kind of measures applied on Regnum would surely, to set an example, attract people onto cheating just to move to the new server just to say "oh, I'm a badass and I'm playing in the server where all the bad guys like me play, duh".

Besides, it'd work like some sort of "virtual gaming prison" that wouldn't really solve the real issues.

We greatly respect companies as awesome as Rockstar Games, but on a game like Regnum, this just wouldn't work.

Best regards!

[GreenAngel]

Originally Posted by Frosk

I don't really think investing on a new server exclusive for cheaters is quite a solution. The way I see it, it's just wasting money.

In fact, this kind of measures applied on Regnum would surely, to set an example, attract people onto cheating just to move to the new server just to say "oh, I'm a badass and I'm playing in the server where all the bad guys like me play, duh".

Besides, it'd work like some sort of "virtual gaming prison" that wouldn't really solve the real issues.

We greatly respect companies as awesome as Rockstar Games, but on a game like Regnum, this just wouldn't work.

Best regards!

Mainly because the amount of cheaters is just to small, you would get a Tyr like server, which costs a lot of money.

[Raoh]

Originally Posted by Frosk

I don't really think investing on a new server exclusive for cheaters is quite a solution. The way I see it, it's just wasting money.

In fact, this kind of measures applied on Regnum would surely, to set an example, attract people onto cheating just to move to the new server just to say "oh, I'm a badass and I'm playing in the server where all the bad guys like me play, duh".

Besides, it'd work like some sort of "virtual gaming prison" that wouldn't really solve the real issues.

We greatly respect companies as awesome as Rockstar Games, but on a game like Regnum, this just wouldn't work.

Best regards!

This is a respectable and expected response. Theres no clear way to achieve a "jail" as it were, for people that do bad things. The idea is grand in nature for sure. In Rockstars case, its an FPS based shooter quake like. The games are singular as they happen. So it makes a little sense why that works there.

That said however, I thought just occurred to me.

Instead of banishing cheaters to a server, why not banish them to an island. for a day. or some period of time. It doesnt take away their ability to transact or play the game, they are just stuck on an island with other cheaters. Wheat from the chaff and the like.

But then thats probably not the best idea either.

[Shwish]

Originally Posted by Raoh

Instead of banishing cheaters to a server, why not banish them to an island. for a day. or some period of time. It doesnt take away their ability to transact or play the game, they are just stuck on an island with other cheaters. Wheat from the chaff and the like.

I don't see whats wrong with just banning them, or disabling their accounts for a few days. Thinking of new fun and exciting ways to deal with cheaters is simply a waste of time imho.

[Frosk]

Originally Posted by Shwish

I don't see whats wrong with just banning them, or disabling their accounts for a few days. Thinking of new fun and exciting ways to deal with cheaters is simply a waste of time imho.

I have to agree with this.

Unless of course we can get those users, lock them up in a coliseum and make them fight each other to death like in ancient Rome; but I'm afraid that's not possible nowadays

Regards! ^^

[Darcyeti]

Originally Posted by Frosk

I have to agree with this.

Unless of course we can get those users, lock them up in a coliseum and make them fight each other to death like in ancient Rome; but I'm afraid that's not possible nowadays

Regards! ^^

I would guess that wouldn't even look good. Most people that "have to" use bugs or cheat can't do anything proper in RL, so it would be very boring looking at those kids in a colloseum throwing wool pads at each other