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Old 11-07-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Question Leaching Conj...?

Wasnt quite sure where to pose this question so pardon my ignorance.

I played RO back in 2009-2010 and actually just returned this past month. All the new changes and new folks have me doing a head spin a little... So I've been jumping around reading posts to get caught up in the new stuff. I have been coming across posts that mentioned 'leaching conj'.

I guess my main question is, as a conj, Do you not want me to utilize the bear strength, bless, etc? I could care less about my own benefits from it and personally only use it with the impression that it is helpful to you.

If it is not useful to you in any way I would honestly like to know so I don’t waste my points boosting such powers and can concentrate on something else.

Also, since tone doesn’t come across in text well… please don’t take this as snide. It is a sincere question. I would like to become a better support and a better player.

Thank you kindly,
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:58 PM   #2
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:58 PM   #3
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Wasnt quite sure where to pose this question so pardon my ignorance.

I played RO back in 2009-2010 and actually just returned this past month. All the new changes and new folks have me doing a head spin a little... So I've been jumping around reading posts to get caught up in the new stuff. I have been coming across posts that mentioned 'leaching conj'.

I guess my main question is, as a conj, Do you not want me to utilize the bear strength, bless, etc? I could care less about my own benefits from it and personally only use it with the impression that it is helpful to you.

If it is not useful to you in any way I would honestly like to know so I don’t waste my points boosting such powers and can concentrate on something else.

Also, since tone doesn’t come across in text well… please don’t take this as snide. It is a sincere question. I would like to become a better support and a better player.

Thank you kindly,
Ali
Well, if you want help in grinding, yeah, Enhancements tree is the one. In war, you can, but imo isn't that worth it. I'd rather invest as a full-support Conjurer with heals, perhaps a buff or two.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:00 PM   #4
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Wasnt quite sure where to pose this question so pardon my ignorance.

I played RO back in 2009-2010 and actually just returned this past month. All the new changes and new folks have me doing a head spin a little... So I've been jumping around reading posts to get caught up in the new stuff. I have been coming across posts that mentioned 'leaching conj'.

I guess my main question is, as a conj, Do you not want me to utilize the bear strength, bless, etc? I could care less about my own benefits from it and personally only use it with the impression that it is helpful to you.

If it is not useful to you in any way I would honestly like to know so I don’t waste my points boosting such powers and can concentrate on something else.

Also, since tone doesn’t come across in text well… please don’t take this as snide. It is a sincere question. I would like to become a better support and a better player.

Thank you kindly,
Ali
The enchantment tree is quite useful and powerful, however many conjs dont use it anymore since they all want the warmaster buffs and teles. Nonetheless, I love conjs who give me buffs and make me feel like a knight
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:23 PM   #5
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The enchantment tree is quite useful and powerful, however many conjs dont use it anymore since they all want the warmaster buffs and teles.
If you bothered to observe things a little bit before throwing such assumption you'd notice that most of RvR Conjurers do already have a maxed Enchantment tree (so it doesn't matter if they take WM or not) but only for Dispels(5) because the rest of them aren't worth it and since long before Warmasters.

Besides the fact that Curse, Blindness and Clumsiness are totally poopy useless spells, the blesses and other buffs aren't that terrible. However they are single target buffs (which means you constantly need to buff everyone with several spells) with not so great, unreliable (hit chance, spell focus), class-specific (bear str, feline...) bonuses that won't make a difference in RvR nevertheless, these are the main reasons why they are not widely used. There's just better ways to spend mana and time for a conjurer, not speaking of the power points sink they all require.

So it's up to you. They are not useless, but require much sacrifice, work and mana for no real noticeable results in medium and large wars. However for grind support and maybe small fights, they are a great help.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:55 PM   #6
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If you bothered to observe things a little bit before throwing such assumption you'd notice that most of RvR Conjurers do already have a maxed Enchantment tree (so it doesn't matter if they take WM or not) but only for Dispels(5) because the rest of them aren't worth it and since long before Warmasters.
How does 1 spell represent an entire spell tree?? Can you and the other trolls please stop trolling, (especially threads which new players start), and grow a little?

On topic, I was stating that the enchantment TREE, filled with more than 1 spell, is pretty useful in a support conjurer setup, however they give up the 20 points for dex, str, hc+spell focus, intel bonuses in order to pick up the wm bonuses. Please think before commenting such insults, you can start your misunderstanding by "did you mean...." or "i'm sorry i don't understand that..." instead of being a wise ass.
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How does 1 spell represent an entire spell tree?? Can you and the other trolls please stop trolling, (especially threads which new players start), and grow a little?

On topic, I was stating that the enchantment TREE, filled with more than 1 spell, is pretty useful in a support conjurer setup, however they give up the 20 points for dex, str, hc+spell focus, intel bonuses in order to pick up the wm bonuses. Please think before commenting such insults, you can start your misunderstanding by "did you mean...." or "i'm sorry i don't understand that..." instead of being a wise ass.
Are you fucking serious? How's Scias a troll?
How many war-support Conjurers do you see carrying all the enhancements tree? Because I never saw. There are only 3-4 Conjurers who I know in Syrtis that carry another spell aside from dispels; Bless Weapon. Other than that, it's only dispels, you'll need other points for heals and defense.
But then again, it depends on your playstyle too.
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however they give up the 20 points for dex, str, hc+spell focus, intel bonuses in order to pick up the wm bonuses.
WM powers don't need power points.
And even if so, due to the overall weakness of most of these enchants, it wouldn't be a selfish crime to trade them for the WM ones.

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After so much misconceptions and assumptions living in your latest posts, this should primarily apply to yourself.
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The enchantment tree is quite useful and powerful, however many conjs dont use it anymore since they all want the warmaster buffs and teles.
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most of RvR Conjurers do already have a maxed Enchantment tree (so it doesn't matter if they take WM or not) but only for Dispels(5)
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How does 1 spell represent an entire spell tree?? Can you and the other trolls please stop trolling, (especially threads which new players start), and grow a little?
One spell at level 5 represents the entire tree, since the tree has to be maxed to get it... and warmaster powers don't cost power points, so only discipline points are relevant to your comment.

I think you and many other posters on this forum have no idea what trolling is. Disagreeing with you or arguing with you is not trolling, and in most cases, seeing as most of the shit you say is stupid, their disagreements and arguments are perfectly legitimate.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:31 PM   #10
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I use bless weapon. It’s better and costs less power points since I only need one version of it, not 2/3.
If you do have the points, go ahead and use it, it is useful. A bit. I’d always prefer more mental spells though.

And yes, that tree is rather useless. Dispel, mass dispel and if you feel like it bless weapon, that’s it.
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