About balance: I think we need a fix on random evasion/blocked/resisted rate (sometime it's godmode, sometimes it's epic failure). We need something more deterministic to judge. However I have the feeling that Marksman tanks too much while warlock needs better defense. Barbarian are a bit overpowered they need some cap on dammage. I'd say hunter and knight are quite fine like that IMO. Conjuror are overpowered but it's like that for all healing class :)

Edge makes a good point that the game is still to a point "unfinished" many classes and trees are "unfinished" and also balance in RvR is a lot harder to acheive than balance in PvP, Hunters are leant towards 1 on 1s and fights with small groups, so its not supriseing they have trouble at forts.
Warlocks on the other hand are lent towards forts, they have many areas and auras, but long cast time bites for one on ones.
"Overpowered" classes are mostly what i would consider the more finished ones, like marksman, were as some other classes still have many spell issues etc...

In my opinion Archers are the most powerfull class in the game, cept maybe barbs/conjus, Because they are largely "finished" save a few tracking bugs and long bow issues, I do think that whenever most hunters see a hunters are too good thread they instantly start throwing in evasion "fails" often from forts were as I have said they are not at there best, Hunters in the WZ are by far the greatest solo pvp character, they sacrifice fort effectiveness for that, you can not be a jack of all trades,
Why not give barbs tons of defence?
Or knights more attack power?
Or warlocks short cast times?
Or Marksmen speed?

See were im comeing from with this? Please dont take this as a anti hunter rant im just trying to get a point accros that you cant be good at everything.

Anyone that thinks that another class is better than theres should just play that class, end of story. I did it and found peace finnaly

Hunters the greatest pvp character ? are you kidding me, I prefer my barbarian for PvP (even without SC and Ripost). Hunters are very good for small group fight and hunting where they lead 5 allies with them (why 5 ? because of stalker).

However I think hunter for PvP is a joke against Knights, Marks, Barbs, Warjuror.

Hunters however unlike any other class can escape many situations, and largely PICK the fights they want to take or leave. This makes them a very powerfull class as they can find the best opponant they know they can beat and avoide any were they will die.

Ok...

I've had my Internet reconnected now that the storm is over, but I'm not even going to read the replies to me in this thread, because I can tell from the last few pages that a few people have started going out of line, citing how long they have been playing as well as other factors to show how right they are.

The thing that none of you seem to realize is that you don't determine what is balanced. NGD determines what is balanced, and what is supposed to be. You guys really need to grow up, and I won't be reading/posting in these threads anymore, because feelings and opinions get turned into weapons here.

If you talk to anyone outside the forums they will say the same thing. There's a reason people don't read it.

Regards.

Join the club, I find the forums the type of thing that makes me puke, aside from a spam topic and a few good ones that have to do with the community (the spanish forum has generally alot of the same too, but from what I see theres actually laughing and some fun topics) alot of you should lighten up and live again, theres nothing but bitching, whining, and most of all, fighting, in EVERY little aspect, find me a thread in general discussion without people fighting in it, the one time I even saw someone new ask a question that was stupid, but he really didn't know it, and everyone was acting so harsh on the person, for no damn reason. Theres a fight everywhere you go, because everyone think's thier point of view is right. You would think people would give up trying to convince people, seeing as how most of us here are not open-minded.

someone will disagree with you on something and it starts a whole flame war.

some people take the game way to seriously, its because they don't have better things to do.

Most of the people in these forums have no self-rightousness either, you see alot of sheep that follow the shepard. Someone has a similar point of view with you, and next thing you know its a faction war in the forums, my team versus yours, we forget to look at each other as human begins aswell, after a bad update all the nasty shit goes on NGD, over my time here ive heard it all from we'll burn you NGD to NGD is nothing but a bunch of money obssesed faggots that want my money. Pleeease, why do you play?

Ask yourself why you play the game, if you got a reason, stick to that reason ignoring all other shit, if you don;t got a reason get on with your life.

Yep....
Liven up. Don't sweat the small stuff. :)

Look katie, even if it surprises you we really think we are whining about something who destroys the game.

If you arrive here and command us, once again, to learn to play or to discover new tactics you have no rigth to get angry when you suggest you to shut up.

It always amazed me the amount of people who arrives here wanting to figth and when they get involved in the figth they started they rant about how much people figths here.

You can call our opinions garbage, saying how much you played with your 4 lvls 50 and how good you are but later you say people tries to prove their points saying they played for a long time.

I guess i showed my point, tactics vs luck are useless in this game, archers and knigths can spec themselves with a gameplay based on luck and they have fair options vs anyone in this game using 0 tactic. Also mages can add even more luck with protection dome and knigths buff all with a fantastic 50% block rate.

Call it overpowered or whatever you want, but there is a lot of players winning figths with even knowing what they are doing.

I find that extremely annoying and gamebreaking and i saw it thousand of times and i am sure i am not the only one who things it as people showed in this thread.

That its specially wrong with archers, because they are a ranged class, with good speed damage and range, if you add the possibility of avoiding all your attacks with simply luck it just breaks it.

So if you think we have no fucking idea, we need to learn to play and we dont know what tactics we need to use, ok, thats fine. But dont get angry if dont give a shit about what are you saying Mrs "Elitist" Katiechan.

Because you can be so good but you are not the only one :P

Perhaps you should pay better attention to peoples' posts before saying such garbage.

You really should take a look back on how I have approached things in this thread prior to the "discussions" that you and others started that weren't even in relation to the original topic.

Not once will you find me behaving like you do. It is your imagination and your own aggression.

I believe if you look at my post history my behavior is never anything like the greater majority of this forum. With the exception of some issues over a year ago, I have always tried to be helpful, and whenever I have to state my opinion, I back it up with facts and experience, not just empty sayings.

Of course, there is always someone to poke holes, and point out why experience is not experience, simply because they have been playing longer. The ironic part is, half of them don't even play the game anymore.

Edge is right, no one here is openminded at all. And many simply have no business posting.

Regards.