You are going to see less and less pet hunters due to the support spells that hunters now have. Do you have a hunter? Cause I have a hunter and a marks - I've tested damage and my marks has far more sustained damage than my hunter. It is clear they are moving hunters more towards support.

The only spell we have that gives us any offense is cold blood - which if you want it you can have it :P 6 seconds and 300 mana where most the spells you use are going to be resisted...isn't worth it.

Anyone got a level 50 knight and want to try this?

Too bad that my knight was deleted on Amun aswell. xD

Pets are near useless.
If you use camouflage you lose pet, if you don't camo and don't use any surprise a warju or warlock will kill your pet in seconds, your damage is lower, you don't have barrier, you can't auto-heal, your new range is worse for your pet...barbarians will buff as they see you and kill your pet, knights resist a lot, and the two now have same or more speed....

So, as I see If I use pet I'm more useless in a war than before, If I'm hunting skin of the beast is as necessary as UM for barbs.
If I don't use pet I need to use an area (OP vs barbarian's areas) to kill one player and confuse to level things (bad for conjus). Cold blood is like 3 more hits, and you lose time buffing, it was better to use dual shot as it was before the nerf.

I also don't see any fun thing in the new support role, I prefer the dynamism of conjurers and knights.

I just logged onto Amun and tried. I would be very disappointed with this if this were the "answer" to a reduced AO1. One major problem is I cant give anyone any hard numbers on how (in)effective this combination is because the "miss"es they cause in combat don't show up in the log, they're like phantom swings except the word "miss" flashes above your head. Basically, this is no solution, Precise Block in it's current incarnation on the live servers would seem to be about equal in effectiveness as this 500+ mana combination. I don't think I'm exagerrating by saying that. Also, this combination will only last less than 30 seconds for any knight, as both of those abilities are 1-second cast, and awareness has a 90-second cooldown.

Pets are not going to be useless at all. theres no reason why you cant set yourself up to be a Beast Master type archer and drop your stealth abilities. Do you really need to scream out tracks when there are 20 other hunters doing the same thing.

The problem is that many players are so focused on thier own damage that they neglect the skills in the pets tree. there are some godly defensive buffs and passives in the pet tree and not to mention the all powerful Beastial Wrath. A fully buffed pet in like a Ao1 knight doing 500 normals if you've ever fought one. you seriously wont even need to use a bow for this setup. i want to level a hunter up just to play with this style

And seeing the hunter coming is really irrelevant... we see every other class coming and they dont complain about that. The point of this update is for hunters to decide between being an Assassin or Beast Master and not have the best of both worlds

I did test storebought slow30 vs my epic slow30, average damage of 30shots to same target.

slow30 from store = 284.8average 100-124 +13

slow30 epic = 301.7average 108-132 +18 +11 +12 +13 +1dex

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8949/bowfight.png

as you can see, that epic bow is WAY better but damage is only ~17more

so if this goes like this to live, then FUUuuuuuu :(

I've tried them both (together at the same time) along with Precise Block 5.

Sad to say, all still a waste of power points. The only genuine difference I noticed was one or two "miss" over my head (instead of evade) in the string of a several dozen attacks by 3 enemies helping me test (most of which made it through).

One other note, currently on Amun, the build I figured for my knight is so simplistic, I can for the first time since I hit 50 on him, play with just two hotbars and not keep the spellbook open for additional abilities.

Versatility seems to be making way for simplicity and cookie-cutter singularized purpose. And not to mention, a really nice epic weapon is doing 17 more damage than a normal store-bought of the same speed/range/class?

...yikes. This *will* really hurt platinum box sales---bad.

The funny thing is, you can still add all your characters as friends....and you can see their stats in the war status. Nice try Daar :P

And just a suggestion to NGD, could stat gems be added as well? (ie dex gem, str gem, consti gem...etc) That in combination with a lowering of premium gem cost may well help make up for box losses.

I fear this spell will be only usefull against dots like lightning or ice blast and nobody will use it. Maybe make it a situational spell too, like +80% armor, 10 duration, 25 cd or sth like that.

Tested this on my low knight with mobs, still no effect noticed.

Still useless. Only very small dps increase.

Good. 90% were a joke lol.

Good.


I love the duration and cd but mana costs are too high. Awareness and preparation could be improved as well as blocking spells.

Hm useless i guess.

Great.

Pets should die or whatever, otherwise its like the old camo + ambush + conf + pet. Beside that: Awesome!

Nice.