Why run?
 

Why run?why leave your realmates to die?

i agree only pts (in syrtis we call them mandados, spanish for leavers because even pts hate them)

but in some cases its just the right thing to do when the atk is just plain stupid and you might get away not giving RP.

1) Money

2) The promise of women

I kid

EXACTLY.

Why good does running do?

You either get so far, and get killed - or if you're a hunter you run, sotw and camo like a coward.

I find that the latter always seems to happen when said hunter is within a minutes walking distance of a save - so its not like their losing much ground!

Dracus gave us a fine example of this today, a few syrtis were at samal, they were dealt with swiftly - while he turned tail and ran. We found him at PB and the same happened, he ran and camoed.

Anyway, I dont mean to name names but abandoning realm mates is something I cant stand, from any realm.

hes smart and doesnt like advancing into pt wars he just makes his rp and gets out, i understand this since syrtis makes alot of retarded desicions and they are just not worth it.


im completly aginst running and leaving your team mates to die but in some cases its just the smart thing to do and even there i anounce my good bye and even try preventing the idiotic charge.

It wasnt even an "idiotic charge."

They were just near samal, so we fought them, and he ran.

If he didnt want to fight, then why did he come?

Ok first I hadn't leave just like that. There was a reason. I was furious, it was stupid to go at samal and even more to froze my target while i was casting caltrop. I had enought of that, said it, and left. Yes it was stupid. But guess what it's only a game and people do make mistake, even more when they are furious :D

And at PB you must be kidding me. There was no way I was gonna fight with my setup (without pet) against all you guys. I didn't use camo, but stalker surrounding (you'll notice I waited the end of sotw before searching for a rock to hide). The mage damage me with his area, you could have done the same if you wanted to.

See you in game.

You used stalker and they didn't kill you? lol nooooooobs ;p

I am a mage so best I could do is walk faster. So no running away for me from anything with an IQ.

Valorius, you're not the famous hunter of Daggers anymore. GG Dracus :thumb:

In my opinion your setup doesn't matter, if you have a setup and you're with some realmmates, it's not nice to let them behind and run because you can. Sometimes I help at stone with my levelling setup.

Nah I can kinda understand him. Yesterday me, Red Star, and a couple of spanish players went on a hunt in Alsuis. We started out at PN like usual and were making our way around the Pozo.

Once Pinos was in our sight, one of them crys PINOS and the rest follow. I was totally against it because I came to fucking hunt not start a fort war. We were only a 5 or 6 man group, 2 hunters, 1 conj (unchal for me), 1 barb and 1 knight.

I kept telling them if we stay to long we will get killed, because we had already been sighted. Next thing I know they want to capture the fort, Still im shouting we should get out of there but who gives a damn?

BOOM next thing we know 12 Alsians fly literally out of the sky, then all you hear is AYUDA! VAMOS! :superpusso: and you hear me laughing.

So I ons the conjurer and try to get her out of there but she dies in like 3 hits to a hunter


We spawn back at Samal save everyone in the party left except me and Red Star :fingers: (then we went to Syrtis as the Rated R combo but thats another story)


BASICALLY :D I have to say that I think Dracus had a reason, because I usually don't see him run, and I see him alot. I thik his reason is similar to mine somewhat, you go because you wanted to do something, but then it changes in the middle of it

They didn't care about my opinion, and more than once, I don't see why I have to care about them. I really enjoy to fight battle where I know for sure I'm gonna loose, if and only if there is a little chance I can last more than 5s, and try to fight. Here, in my humble opinion, I would have see just 10 dmg line in the log without doing one. Yes you really learn a lot when you got instant killed by etheral arrow, balestra, southcross, meteor, ensaring arrow and zarkit.

And for the reference Matt I wouldn't have run from you alone. Yes I use stalker surrounding. It's one of our best spell (lvl 19 spell), I don't see why I shouldn't, If it's forbidden by some ethic rules, maybe we shouldask NGD to remove that spell. Now If you can't kill me while I use it, I don't know who's the noob but it isn't me.

EDIT: Thanks Edge. I started to feel a little bit alone.

Running is stupid but you have to remeber its also a tactic like 5% of the time :superpusso:

Dracus, believe me when I say this was not a personal attack - it was merely the lastest thing that I had witnessed; related to the topic :)

Its impossible to tell if you're camoing or stalker...ing. I could only presume that you had camoed - and I did you use two of my, admittedly, not damaging areas (which didnt work) - as using my main damaging is normally unsuccessful.

No :D
1)Different animations.
2)ask hunter for tracking or any archer for escapist :>

Shit why hunter always have to tell to ohters how to kill us?

Camouflage is a small group of stars in one area.

Stalker is a large group of stars in a wide area.

and stripes like in Star Trek teleport ;p

LenaRosemberg and you are??????? (sorry don't know you from Adam)

Ok people complain about the way Valorius talk on the forum. YES he is very opinionated and that is one reason i like the dude.

REMEMBER LenaRosemberg, it is comments such as the one i quoted from yourself that causes problems

My advice to you is as follows, before you speak:

#1 close mouth
#2 engage brain
#3 speak sensibly

i run and leave people who dont fight well... im not going to be another crab in the crab pot... :fingers:

mmmmm crab......:fingers:

Its abit hard to tell when they're behind a bloody rock :bounce:

I think Dracus had a good reason to run. But in general running is just stupid, at pp I saw hunters fighting till they die and conjurers running for their lives which makes them respawn 1 minute later. It's so useless. What I hate is people fleeing for a challenge. I and an easy marksman faced a level 50 barb who just killed a easy warlock and very easy barbarian from our side in pozo. While I charged towards him he ran to pinos save which was 500 meter from us. I died of course and the barb escaped later with onslaught.

I hope it is :>

To Inkster, Lena is my girl friend. I think she knows the Daggers clan quite well and she has no problem with Valorius, and like to play with him (from what I heard from her). She was just trying to be Ironic, because Valorius is aggroing all our ennemies during fights and she wanna say that I might be aggroing ennemies in the futur in the same way as Valorius.

To AwD, setup don't matter it's just stupid to fight 1 vs 5 when you are on a well known environment and can easily escape and stalk (and then spy your ennemies moves).

To Matt, if I had the time to cast Stalker after hiding behind a rock, you probably won't have catch me if I had run to hide into Stone. Remember I was full mana but alone when I saw your group at Pb.

Finally, this thread is quite a bitter experience for me. I admit I shouldn't have left my realmate but I just wanted to explain myself because Your post looked like some kind of Shaming post, and guess what I didn't take it very well. Remember you guys are also human, you can make mistakes, ...

I'm Lenarosemberg in the game. As Gph said, my post was a JOKE, because people ALWAYS complain about Valorius and I thought it was FUNNY that people complain against dracus for once.

By the way I LOVE playing with Valorius, not only because the fact him being around is the best evasion spell ever, but because he's a great clan leader not affraid of telling people they're wrong.

Wrong im a goat but i stand corrected, Lena and Gph my apologies :wiggle14:

it's ok, his/her own fighting style, wasn't an attack just an opinion

I always fight more than one enemy, it's more fun :D, in level 44 I fought 1vs4 and didn't die :p

Hmmm according to this, you're level 49 :p

PS: Oh you said IN lvl44, not IM lvl44, sorry bout that :p

this reminds me of an old saying found in the dave t book of philosophies: "poop spelled backwards is poop. poopy spelled backwards is ypoop, or why poop. why poop? because its fun!" :lighten: :eek24:

or because your doubled over hardly able to walk and about to make pie in your pants

omg. :hat:

haha make pie in the pants niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice :eguitar: yea im thinking about publishing the book :)

:eek24::eek24:

i run, not away from my group but i run when im by myself i run when ignis runs away from herb(with the warlock) only with the warlock because to me its funny, a warlock getting away from a storm of syrtis you can hate me all you want its funny....:thumb:

I don't think it's bad to try to run away from a fight when you're loosing. Of course you should tell your realm mates and not run when you've still got a chance to win. But when you're hunting with two or three people and meet a large party on its way to a fort the best thing you can do in my eyes is run/retreat/flee/atras. Otherwise you just give free RP. And people also don't seem to like it when their realm mates give free RP. And I like the challenge of running away from a large group and surviving. I once ran from pinos after the goats broke the doors and thanks to camouflage, wild spirit, low profile, mobility and some rocks I managed to get away from a large group of Alsius chasing me! I went back to central all the way using pn and pb. That was just fun, for both sides. What is more entertaining for you, chasing a player while thinking where he could have gone and trying to slow him down or kill a player who tries to fight an army of ten people but who can just scratch you because of all the dizzy and ambush spells he's suffering from?

It's not fun to try to catch a hunter.

hahahaha yeah right, I can only imagine what huge fun it must have been for the guy chasing you.

From a hunter point of view, yes it's fun to catch people after a long run. I can assure you that running and scouting is for me one of the best part of being an hunter. In fights I don't have all the candy spell attack you have. So it's often a trick spell or normal hit for me (tricks are fun).

I can tell you from every other class's point of view that it's not fun to run after a hunter. The way the skills are designed, you will only catch him if they don't know how to use them. It's just no fun. They can come, pick the fight and start it, then when they start losing, they can run, safely knowing that if they play it right, they will get away 100% safe. Sure, this can be fun for the hunter. I'm just saying it's not fun for anyone else.