Rapier vs Spear...
 

ok im getting to a good lvl and i like the look of the spier and also that it hits harder, but its bad side is it takes a long time between hits...

now im ok with the look of the repier but its just we..small, it doesnt hit as hard as the spier infact the spier is hitting an average of about 110 on a normal attack excluding the cticals, but it hits 1/3 in less time

so im asking what do u guys think is better in the long run?
what do u use?
and also does the look of the rapel ever change?

finnaly im lvl 17 and cant find lvl 17 armor in fisgael actually icant find ANY lvl 17 armor at all it goes strait to like 28 so any idea where i can get that maybe korusum?

thanx:biggrin:

It all depends on your class.
If you are barbarian you won't like to stick with a rapier because it is only one-handed.
Else, it's all up to you.

Rapiers are in general faster but spears have range.

Lvl 17 armour is in korsum.

I wish rapiers were 2H aswell.

Eurgh, but someday when Dual Wield is implimented you will see me with 2 rapiers. Boger used rapiers quite frequently if I remeber, to break down fort doors.

I prefer spears though i have a rapier too. The range advantage, damage and look of the weapon makes it a easy choice for me (yes rapiers look so silly). I only have a rapier because i like to have different weapon speeds.

Besides range and damage, there is a mana cost difference too. Using skills with 100% damage weapon, you spend same amount of mana but your damage is way lower.
If you are a knight and you want to use rapiers, I think is better to use damage buffs than 100% damage skills.

hopefully someday... id quite like to see all classes with 3 sub-class trees like mages have but that would need some hell of a lot of balanceing hmm ideas?

barbs, dule weild, use a single handed wepon in each hand attacks fast, hits average?

marks, defences??

hunters, they should be ONLY class with evasion, it makes marks too good

knights, errrrrm...

yeah archers would need a new base skill tree for this way but meh crossbows??, Knife fighting??? (cqc very fast with lowish dmg??)

Twohanded rapiers goes against the whole principle and functionality of a rapier, they are precision weapons not brute-force weapons. They would be utterly worthless as twohanded, you'd lose the agility and wouldn't gain any damage potential. (In real life, but even though this is a game, orcs and magic I can believe in, twohanded rapiers, no way (: )

Braveheart had a 2 handed rapier :biggrin: It was cut thin on the sides, made of a light metal. Well maybe it wasn't more of a rapier, like you said it ruins the concept of them as they are weapons for swift thrusts. But still like his weapon :??

See, the only problem I see with dual wield is.... can you really picture a guy running around with 2 spears in his hands? Or 2 maces/hammers? It makes the Dual Wield concept limited to slashing, thin weapons. (Rapier, Sword, Axe)

that pretty much sums up why theres no 2H rapiers, have you even seen someone fencing? thats based around rapier style combat, 2H just defeates the point entirely

+ i think a barb with a fast wepon would be a little silly...

would probably make it the most deadly weapon out there, better the way it is now, imagine someone hitting fast 300-400's. Still as a barbarian I feel left out :p

sure why not have 2 spears or hammers?

2 hammers/maces wouldent be a problem for a barb due to massive str anywat so they should be able to carry 2 spears ect would be a bit ungangly but only due to there size maybe held about half way down (carryed crossed on the back) and used in less stabby motions and more sweeping sort of thing?

Cant really see someone wielding 2 spears, would be hard to attack, unless barbs had lances :p

lol, hmmm if 2 wepons came in then id like to see more variation in the attack pattern as well only spears only have one stab style attack id like to see "hit combos"? maybe 5 differant attacks?

slash (i think blunt too) have 2 one accross from the left and one diagonaly down

Ok here are some crappy pics, the 1st is a very crappy paint edited img of a wrist blade

The second could be what a 2H rapier would look like XD (thats a real pic :p)

It's been a long time since I saw that one, but maybe you're thinking of Rob Roy? What they used in Rob Roy was a variant of the sabre, see the problem with a rapier is that its frame is soft and bendable, if you made a bigger version it would flop around too much due to its size and weight, you wouldn't be able to "aim" it for the piercing thrusts, and if you made the frame rigid you'd lose the agility that comes from it.

You really wouldn't be using to regular sized spears, they'd be a little shorter and more aimed at dual wielding from the get go, but wielding two spears would be awesome, however the most important aspect of dualwielding in regnum would be to make some _REALLY_ nice animations for it, because you can't just use the regular hits, you'd have to put in a lot of dancing and movement into the animation, to get a fluent "proper" dualwield look (:

He had a Claymore. There is no sword more unlike a rapier, than a claymore!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/...ab9148.jpg?v=0

bahhh

whatever...but back on topic...

i don't know of anyone that actually uses rapiers, so regardless of your sub-class, i would stick with a spear.

i can say, that i do use rapiers for pre-buffing...but then again, people laugh at me when i pull it out. oh well...

http://www.mindstation.com/kilts/braveheart.jpgWell I guess instead of rapiers, I want an extra weapon for barbs to make up for one lost, im just looking for that authentic thin sword look. :biggrin:

Rapier should be left handed. I mean rapier were used as a not primary weapon like a shield but more offensive :)

ok thanx for all the post and ya it would b neat to see someone wielding 2 rapiers, think bout it one down diagnaly down the back and the other down the oppisite side of the back diagnaly, would look kinda cool to me. Same goes for spears and all wepons it works for all of them. Seems like u guys hijacked my thread... im using rapier when i can but theres a gap in the mis lvl;s where spears are only buyable so i guess im stuck with them until i get to the 40's and use rapier again thanx all and if u want keep using my post to rant on double wielding and such ^^

A rapier would be virtually useless vs a knight or other heavily armored target in any kind of real world battle.

A Rapier was a duelist's and gentleman's weapon for use in unarmored encounters, it was NOT a sword of war.
The longsword was the one handed sword of war.

Well for leveling a spear is always better...you can kill mobs without beeing hit...
But a rapier can be very effective againts mages with lvl15 pierce...add points into damage bonus and use brain pierce and feint...no mage can kill you...

Sounds realistic to me. A rapier would cut a guy in a robe up just fine. ;)

I like rapiers... they look "noble" and are useful when you need to do damage over a long (> 20s) time (in better words it owns to break doors and killing conjus ^^).

But as a Knight i play with a spear, just for the range, even if i don't use it very often (i'm blunt oriented). And it's easier when your enemy run with a spear.