For those who thought....
 

Obama would usher in a new wind of change, I would ask you to look at this: http://i40.tinypic.com/11tqy52.jpg and then post your feelings on this matter.

Come on people! I know you have an opinion on this?

I don't care if you are for or against the man because what I seek is your opinion of the picture and what it symbolizes.

Please keep it civil though...

I was thinking about that just a minute ago. They look similar, but when you take into account that Obama and Bush have both the standard American phenotype in their bloodlines it's not so strange to think that.

The picture doesn't simbolize the previous statement, though. In my opinion, it's about what, sadly, is true about politicians: they look, speak and act all the same no matter their skin colour, party or religion.

they look nothing alike, it's just a good optical illusion created by slowly transforming bush to look more like obama :)

OMG! It's not the president that runs the show in the US! They're all the same because they are insignificant! And OMG THE SKY IS BLUE! Today is full of surprises!

Welcome to the world, have a seat, enjoy the killing.

Means nothing, there are a ton of these. In fact, this is a cheaper one - I've seen a gif that had bush morphing into hitler before your eyes (can't find link).

This is total lulz, Miraculix you rock man!

For real, I almost peed my pants reading that.

Whats your point..its just Bush morphed into Obama...from what ive seen..(and it aint much, cos politics dont interest me at all)..Bush was a twat...as for Obama..give him a chance he only just got inaugurated..(which i watched on tv btw), but if his stay in office is anything like his speech after he was sweared in...well...we live in hope..dont we ?

Nothing really other then to gain opinions, however, if you are asking what my opinion is...

It would be much like Miraculix's humorous post, for anyone who has studied politics, power relations, social movements, social-economic status and the relations among these would know that elected officials are figure heads to connect to the masses, and thus compel the masses to go along with the wants, needs of a small group of people within the populous.

Thus, even though Miraculix's post was in jest he was able to expose the reality and truth of American politics, and in a much simpler and funny way then I ever could.

Nope i wasnt...


Like i said in my previous post..i have no interest in politics....<yawns> way too boring..i prefer to work out my own lifes' politics..thanks.

All hail Mira ?? xD Dont ask me why...but your post erked me... translation :- erked ~.."to annoy..aggravate.."

Its too early to make assumtions at this point. Obama just seems to be winning the majority over right now, and trying to fit all americans into his view. He's fresh and nothing more, as quickly as he is gaining support, thats how quickly it can fall, its very shakey.

He won the pro-natalists when he pushed through abortions in his 1st week as president.

I personally think next he will win over minorities with a massive change in the immigration system, which has been desperatly needed in the US. Asians, arabs, and other groups have been treated racially for awhile.

As much as I hate Bush however and feel he should be arrested for bringing the US into an open war on account of his famous "weapons of mass destruction" I still feel pity for him only because he is a puppet, and he's just a person that takes the blame.

During the Obama campaign, I noticed in most pictures he always had this light on his face, to me it was like a ray of hope in a way. I am only angered because he has turned the White house into some kind of black party house. I hope his wife dosen't have too much control over him, the kids have too much media attention aswell. But thats just my view because I lived in a Ghetto filled with niggas for 15 years... where if you just looked at someone you were shot.

Focusing on that tiny of a sphere of influence, focusing on your own life and your own actions, comes with a price for you allow those in power to dictate what you can and cannot do.

But I fear that all Western nations shall end up as Britain; for example, cameras everywhere watching every move the citizen makes.

Kinda like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUxk5IyGgjQ

However, such is the price people pay for not valuing their freedoms.

Though we're talking about American politics, I am sure this can be applied to almost every country on Earth. Moreover, to any group of humans. The head of the state is not the visible representation of a man, but a small group formed by some big influential corporations, old politicians and modern day caudillos.

The is true, so very, very true...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caudillos

Who said i didnt value my freedom, because i do...i value the fact i have the right to vote (remember the suffragettes ?, one name comes to mind Emily Wilding Davison..)..for equal opportunities, but even in the day and age of equal rights..this job im applying for..well lets just say im the only woman there..im most probably going to be seen as an "novelty". How many men have felt like this ?..i know that if i get said job..ive got to hoist the barriers up..because men look for weaknesses in woman..when they take on a job that they can do just aswell thankyou very much..

When something my government does inflicts on my life personally, then id have a opinion...Obama doesnt rule my country..Gordon Brown does..ooh however actually i do disagree that the government are permanently phasing out benefits for single parents..forcing them to get a job whether they want to or not(this doesnt bother me..i want a job), ive enjoyed watching my children grow up, as far as im concerned..i was a full time mum..it was and still is a full time job. I dont think the government understand this..i couldnt bare to leave my children with a child minder...all day..missing out on all the things they were accomplishing without me there to see it all...no way..i tried to be a working mum for 3 months..i hated it. The only happy medium that happened was when i got interested in gardening..jared was in full time school by then and bethany was able to go to the nursery on the college site...she was just a 5 min walk away from me. Yes i know that there are some parents(if you can call them that), have baby ..after baby..just to stay on benefits so they dont need to get a job..and this is mainly the reason why this phasing out has been introduced. However in light of the british ecconomy..surely..making people get jobs..which arent even there...damn this will just make things worse in my opinion. The only ones suffering in all this..are the children..true..that money makes the world go round..but all children need are the love and guidance of their parents, not the parents hardly even being there..and when they are..there tired and too stressed about money and work to even take the time to just be with them..Whether we like it or not..most families arent two parents..one goes to work..one stays at home with the children..most are single parents like me..who find most days a struggle, its bloody hard work ! I have to be a mother and a dad..and its exhausting..especially now there getting older..my son worries about his SATS(exams for entry into high school), my daughter worries sooo much about fitting in with her other class mates..no matter how much i tell her that you dont have to try to be anything your not...Im not saying all this for sympathy..far from it..its just something i feel strongely about.

No truer words could be spoken as these...

/Hell_bound now ponders what was said and looks at the bigger picture, humanity, the world...

It's funny isn't that humans chase after objects that are not compatible with the flesh and emotions that make humans human...

Gold, oil, money (paper), or anything else...

Why can we not accept who we are, what we are - each other reflected in the mirror of ourselves as we stare into the eyes of another, especially those we hate?

Seek your fortune now, for tomorrow will be to late; and yet you will find it was all for not and this you can bet on...


~http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSaIGUxb0yQ
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9T55V-FY6A


And so the ritual begins...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qXEyPLi1uU

Havent humans always chased after materials things...to have things of their own.. ?? Its so funny right now..id settle for serious answers to questions about life than a shit load of gold, oil or bloody paper.

Dont go all damn cryptic on me ! What fortune do you mean..monetary ? Why will tomorrow be too late ?? December 21st 2012...this date ring any bells.. ?Scared the shit out of my son when he saw all them damn clips about it on youtube..(cue me trying to explain why i dont think the world wont end and failing miserably)
Well if the world is really going to end sometime soon..bring it on !
So many thoughts running through my head..so many ideas...sometimes i wish my brain would shush for 5 mins..seriously.H_B you provoke tooooo many thoughts..

Okay..<deep breath> things are just about to get really hectic for me..in my life, i have so many things to take care of, loose ends to tie up :D Dont miss me too much, which im sure you really wont lol. Over and out amigos !

shite..missed this lol

i never mix politics with web forums :huh:

Politics + Web forums = xD

Gasoline + Flamethrowers = xD

This was not a statement directed towards you, but the world in general which you are a part of...

If you look at my other posts you will see what I refer to here; and yes it has to do with paper, but more specific an individual currency and those that depend on it...


I have been told this a few times before... some enjoy such conversations and others it confuses or threatens them...


As you can see by how this discussion went, it really was less about politics...

However, I would like to make my final word on the man that people call Obama...

My Ode to Obama as seen through lyrics:

The great trepidation is about to come at last...

Hmmm i like having the last word...

Your ideas..thoughts..dont threaten me in the slightest, i enjoy them..i love asking questions..when i was a little girl it drove my mum nuts lol..good job we only converse in this forum H_B, because if it was RL..id drive you nuts too :P

Oh yeah i have a poem for you..i was going to make a separate thread..but ill post it here.



The philosopher

"Enough of thought, philosopher!
Too long hast thou been dreaming
Unlightened, in this chamber drear,
While summer's sun is beaming!
Space - sweeping soul, what sad refrain
Concludes thy musings once again?

"Oh, for the time when I shall sleep
Without identity,
And never care how rain may steep,
Or snow may cover me!
No promised heaven, these wild desires,
Could all, or half fulfil;
No threathened hell, with quenchless fires,
Subdue this quenchless will!"

"So said I, and still say the same;
Still, to my death, will say -
Three gods, within this little frame,
Are warring night and day;
Heaven could not hold them all, and yet
They all are held in me;
And must be mine till I forget
My present entity!
Oh, for the time, when in my breast
Their struggles will be o'er!
Oh, for the day, when I shall rest,
And never suffer more!"

"I saw a spirit, standing, man,
Where thou dost stand - an hour ago,
And round his feet three rivers ran,
Of equal depth, and equal flow -
"A golden stream - and one like blood;
And one like sapphire, seemed to be;
But, where they joined their triple flood
It tumbled in an inky sea.

The spirit sent his dazzling gaze
Down through that ocean's gloomy night
Then, kindling all, with sudden blaze,
The glad deep sparkled wide and bright -
White as the sun, far, far more fair
Than its divided sources were!"

"And even for that spirit, seer,
I've watched and sought my life - time long;
Sought him in heaven, hell, earth and air -
An endless search, and always wrong!
Had I but seen his glorious eye
Once light the clouds that wilder me,
I ne'er had raised this coward cry
To cease to think and cease to be;
I ne'er had called oblivion blest,
Nor, stretching eager hands to death,
Implored to change for senseless rest
This sentient soul, this living breath -
Oh, let me die - that power and will
Their cruel strife may close;
And conquered good, and conquering ill
Be lost in one repose!"

Emily Jane Brontë

It just seemed appropriate. Take care :banana:

then why would obama close what the previous opened?
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-22-voa7.cfm

It's new times, I say give obama a chance, politicians have a way of speaking their way out of different situations, Obama can speak, but I think america will change with this guy as a president.

As for the picture, they don't really look alike, but when a picture morphing them like that has been seen, some might be fooled into thinking this.

However even if they do remember that you cannot tell anything from a person by looking at them, as he said in his speech, about ten years ago he would have a hard time getting a decent job in the area where he was now standing.

With technology these days you can morph anyone to look/resemble almost anything, doesn't mean its true. I think the responses really just show those who make assumptions or changes previously held assumptions, those who defend their previous/current assumptions and those who remain objective.

Or if you are really just interested at what some ppl look like morphed together I like the following site as they blend, warp and fiddle with it and show you different results:

http://celebritymorphing.blip.tv/rss

Ughhh...*feels like a zombie trying to take all this in*:rolleyes2:

*does a facepalm while thinking*

Okay in a nutshell...

Live your life the way you want it, don't make any decisions you're unaware about...if something happens then you'll obviously do something to change it. Until then keep living your life the way you'd like to. :P

The End.
End of Story
On to the next chapter! >.<

Pretty simple eh? Your life is what you <--- (biggest keyword ever) make it.

This is the biggest myth that was ever created and it was created to serve the captains industry and capitalism, especially so when we look at credit markets.

To prove that this ideas is false: just look at any group of people that have a minority status within a nation or state.

Also all societies have rules, one cannot break the rules and expect to be kept within society?

The truth is individually we are products of society, as long as you do as society tells you - you will find mobility, but you better hope that your skin color, your weight, your sex, your age and your sexuality all meet the criteria of those that would hold power over you. For if not you will be limited in your mobility.

It's people that think this way that allowed George W Bush to be elected. Tell all the people that have lost loved ones in his wars that it doesn't matter...

No, that's a different think. You're thinking of apathy. I'm talking about having a grip of reality.

You think things would be different if Al Gore was elected? Or any other Democratic tool? You think it was him that made the call on the mass murders US carried out during his presidency? Do I need to remind you on the mass murders Bill Clinton presided?

Hell, do you even think he was legitimately elected? Both times?

It's people who actually fall for this Douche & Turd puppet show that get your monkeys elected.

Yes I do and you're a fool if you think otherwise.

No but enough people stayed home to get him close enough to grab it.

If we don't go out and vote and take a position of 'It doesn't matter anyways' we make it all too easy for the worst among us to grab power. It's what they want actually.

I'm not of the "Don't bother voting" mentality. Quite the opposite, I go to extreme lengths to vote (in my country you can only vote in the place you declare as your permanent residence, and I'm rarely there these last few years) and get others to vote.

But honestly, if I was living in the US, I don't know what I would do, seeing as anything that strays too much from the norm is quickly labeled as communist/terroristic or a threat to the "American way of life", and is quickly made illegal. The differences in the two big parties are barely fooling anyone. It's pretty much the same as in Europe with the two poles being Social-democrats and Conservatives (names may vary from country to country, agenda is the same). Only at least here we haven't started banning every other party yet.

Swapping power from one pole to the other is there only to calm the masses down, to give them a false hope of change after periods of extreme suppression. No real change will be made to society through these means, not in capitalism. But nice reasoning, "You're a fool if you disagree with me". No wonder you actually think Al Gore would make your country a better place.

All politicians are liars, they fool the people to get elected then they do shit. Really in France we had the right and the left wing to command our country for long years and the results are they are both bad. Maybe left wing did at least improve some things with death penalty removal (guillotine eurk ... :( ). On the economic side they do shit, I know economy is hard to forecast. Even in capitalist system French politician don't understand a single thing, I'm just disgust by what they are doing. The only thing is that both wing do shit but not the same way.

I'm pretty sure Al Gore wouldn't have done the same mistake than Bush, I'm not convince he would have attack Irak, but he would have done other mistakes :)

No gods, No masters!

I always voted for The Green Party(in england http://www.greenparty.org.uk/) and do they get elected in..do they shite, so i stopped voting, COS its all about bloody power. Why did i vote for the green party, because we all live on this planet, if keep p*ssing about with it the way we do..we will have no bloody planet, simple as. Thats why politics dont interest me..look how long its taken america to take some interest in saving the planet ffs ?? <note to self> That rant definitely certifies me as a hippy in a previous life

The tie says it all.

Anyone who thinks any US president with usher a wind of change anywhere ever hasn't been paying attention. Wind of escalation perhaps (middle east anyone? Well I guess technically the US started that anyway. Or maybe it was the Romans).

but hippies are cute nevertheless

An opinion? How about that you're a douce for thinking that anyone that might look like someone would be like someone. Or that anyone tking up leadership of a country can be judged in the first month of getting the job.

As for those that hope for change, vote with yor dollar and ote with your brain, don't vote for someone just cause they're white or black, vot withthe one with the record of actually doing the things you want done and help them by not giving any money to companies that would do what you do not want.

For th record I voted for the green party, Cynthia McKinney for prez.

Then stfu, if you don't vote you have no say about anything that happens in your country, the apathy is what has caused your country to have become one of the worst surveillance states ever with no ability to defend yourselves from your government if push ever came to shove.

Theres only a few things you need to know when it comes to politics anyways, fear those that are fro religion, for the children, for prohibition and for gun control, these are the people with the ulterior motives that are the most likely to never practice what they preach.

Just look up the multitude of religious nuts that are anti gay yet are still homosexual, they're own self hatred is what has pushed them into the position they are in, its all because the can't control their own urges, so they must hide eveything from everyone to keep from tempting themselves, but it only makes ther urges that much worse.

Dont start on the hippy, cos like i said i dont give a f*ck ! Everyone has a right to an opinion and i expressed mine..so telling me to stfu is you trying to deny me that right lol

Thats the point i dont want to know, the only time i get het up about politics(if you can call it that..cos its a joke really), is when it concerns myself. I get that the government is there to control the people, to mantain order..i couldnt wait for the first time that i was allowed to vote(i voted labour, tony blair got in), but since then i stopped...because i dont believe theres any power in the majority. The British elections compared to Americas are like a barn dance being put next to a Metallica concert..wait Metallica are cool..hmmm okay White snake concert then :)

:lol:

P.s @ awd : me is cute right ? :D

You failed to vote, you failed to have an opinion. One an doesn't change a thing, you have to participate in elections at all levels of government.

You think too highly of our elections, we're only slightly less fux0red then you are, we usually let the aussies copy you, then we try then the canucks follw suit...

For the record, I'm a pro green party, pro legalization of marijuana and cocain leaves, not cocain in drug form, pro guns, just not hand guns or other concealable weapons(I could care less though if you wanna walk down main street with an AK-47 on your shoulder and a full length katana on your hip, cause I can tell you have them) and pro breeder reactor(we need to stop the nuke scare so we can actually get rid of nuclear waste by reprocessing it and burning it down for power till theres nothing radioactive left in it, burying it under a mountain for 250k years and hoping nothing bad hapens isn't a solution) other then that I'm all for national health care, helping out developing nations, moving to green power such as wind, solar thermal and deep earth geothermal look to be the cleanest and cheapest options. Solar thermal is when you build a tower surronded by mirrors aimed at a central point, that poing is where you place a big pipe filled with liquid sodium, when its heated it can power a steam turbine, the same kind used at coal and nuke plants today to produce power for up to 3 days of overcast skies just fine. deep earth geothermal, drill a few deep ass holes in the ground far enough to where the ground is realy hot, pump in water and steam comes up the other holes, place steam turbine over the holes anf free juice 24/7. Only side efect is a slight increase in low level earthquakes at aroung class 3 at the highest, too low to be of any real concern, the places that have tried it have yet to see an increase in quakes that cause damage. Though the french tried it and pussed out due to idiots thinking france was going to fall into the med...

I go with the green party cause they're the most agreeable since I'm a hard mix to find...

WRONG !! I have an opinion..i just dont need to express it to the world for it to count for something.

Nope again..i dont think highly of your elections at all..i think its a completely shite 80's rock band type affair, totally over the top..maybe this is my Britishness coming out here and for that i dont apologise.

Hmmm marjuana..i sit on the fence..simply because ive used the drug in the past and i know its good points and its bad.

Jesus christ, this is what my children should look forward..if you had your chance to rule the world eh ?

The rest of what you said was actually agreeable..(kinda)

Nice to know you have such strong environmental feelings.. :note the sarcasm..

DuoMaxwell you should learn to be humble, you may have an opinion but your opinion isn't worth any more then anyone's else unless you have substantial facts to backup your claims.

As to the topic at hand...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INAGMSARPYw&eur

As stated by the congressman in the video:

This happened last week, January 29th.

None really realize how close we really are...