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Shotya 04-17-2010 01:54 AM

RP info (more for the cowards who just run away)
 
Just wanted to let you guys know when I am shooting you and my pet is hitting you and u run in the water I still get the rps and still get the kill you are not doing anything but me a favor.



Hydeout

P.S. Don't run from me then come back with a group and end up killing me and then sit on my face unless you want farmed everytime I see you out,
I do not disrespect you unless you have it coming, Me attacking you in the WZ is my job. Nothing personal.

Malevolence 04-17-2010 02:00 AM

Ya I never got why losers run into water ..."I rather kill myself then get killed by you" Its one thing to die by my hands its another to run away and drown yourself. If you call that a victory good on ya. I still get RP if I touched you. I laugh at this often.

Gytha_Ogg 04-17-2010 02:18 AM

Maybe they just <3 necro.

Warthog 04-17-2010 02:53 AM

These threads seriouslly get idiotic do you know that? Yes, there are syrtis who do it all the time. On the same hand believe it or not there are also alsius and ignus who do the exact same thing. If ya gonna complain about it, fine, but at least complain about it as a whole. Not directed specifically at one realm. Also, it would be helpfull to give suggestions to fix it, perhaps steeper penalties or something not just basically make a post that can be intended for nothing else then to start a flame war.

lala110593 04-17-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GythaOgg (Post 1008044)
Maybe they just <3 necro.

its weird but for some reason you dnt get necro from drowning naymore, ive drowned by accidently falling of cliffs and testing which rivers i can cross lol, and i dont get any necro if i die. Maybe they removed this?

-glulose

Gytha_Ogg 04-17-2010 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lala110593 (Post 1008061)
its weird but for some reason you dnt get necro from drowning naymore, ive drowned by accidently falling of cliffs and testing which rivers i can cross lol, and i dont get any necro if i die. Maybe they removed this?

-glulose

This better not be one of those "Did you know 'gullible' isn't in the dictionary?" gags.

Edit: It's true - no necro from drowning. I wonder if that's intentional? I wouldn't mind seeing drowning have a bigger malus, considering what a popular sport gem-drowning was, not so long ago.

Revolverxxx 04-17-2010 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lala110593 (Post 1008061)
its weird but for some reason you dnt get necro from drowning naymore, ive drowned by accidently falling of cliffs and testing which rivers i can cross lol, and i dont get any necro if i die. Maybe they removed this?

-glulose

its really random, i tested this too a while back. sometimes you get 5% necro, sometimes you get 2% necro and sometimes you get no necro at all. its wierd

oh and about this thread... all realms do this, not just syrtis

PT_DaAr_PT 04-17-2010 05:12 AM

It's not random at all, if you get no necro then it's probably because you were hit by a player a few minutes ago(and they get the RP :P), if you get 2% necro then you were hit by a mob(and the mob gets the RP :P), if you get 5% then it's because you succesfully suicided(no one gets the RP).

But most of the time when I am chasing someone to the river, I get the RP. :P

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Originally Posted by Revolverxxx (Post 1008098)
oh and about this thread... all realms do this, not just syrtis

I think that we all can agree that it are most syrtians who do that, specially the high level ones, on the other realms it are mostly new players. >.>

Shotya 04-17-2010 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Warthog (Post 1008059)
These threads seriouslly get idiotic do you know that? Yes, there are syrtis who do it all the time. On the same hand believe it or not there are also alsius and ignus who do the exact same thing. If ya gonna complain about it, fine, but at least complain about it as a whole. Not directed specifically at one realm. Also, it would be helpfull to give suggestions to fix it, perhaps steeper penalties or something not just basically make a post that can be intended for nothing else then to start a flame war.

I play Ignis and I have never seen one of my realm mates do this. Do they do this? prolly so. I have also hunted in Als and never had any of them do this to me. Do they do it? prolly so.
I have however had ALOT of syrts do it. I was in no way complaining it is free rp's for me and gives me the total rp count I would have gotten if I killed on land.
I just wanted the idiots to know it did not do any good to do this because they aren't affecting the kills or rp's I get. Same thing when they run to a save after being away I still get the rp's and as some of you know if you piss me off I will farm you all day at a save for the rp lose. At this time rp's mean nothing to me and I think its funny.

Hydeout


Hydeout

ieti 04-17-2010 08:27 AM

Sooooo what is the point of this thread then? RP is really a sh*tty number, anger you do not killed the drowner...anything else?

Personally if i run or drown(i hate to do that because conju i hard to clean necro) it is mainly because i can not win, and want to make attacker angry, because he do not get me. Getting a daily RP dose from those RP addicts is funny to see.

Ignis and alsius do it too, we are not the only drowners.

Dupa_z_Zasady 04-17-2010 09:21 AM

You misspelled cowards. "Cowerds" would better fit this thread.

UmarilsStillHere 04-17-2010 10:54 AM

So ... Its a thread declaring you still get a pointless number when the idiot who drowns gets necro (something everyone with a brain should already know)

I have seen people from all realms dunk themselfs with people shooting them in the back, Syrtis isnt the only realm with its share of cowards.

Zas_ 04-17-2010 11:03 AM

It occurs sometimes, yes some people prefer to run in water, and what ?

You call them cowards, ok, but how to name hunters:
attacking wounded unprepared lower level grinders from camo with an OP pet is not exactly glorious, and all hunters do it.

This is a game, everybody can act as they want to (even if ...).

Linuxmage 04-17-2010 11:41 AM

Incidentally, I once drowned in the inner realm whilst exploring the outer edges of the map, fell down a steep cliff into the sea. I did not get necro, and hadnt fought a mob or anyone else since I logged in that day.

HuntShot 04-17-2010 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Linuxmage (Post 1008207)
Incidentally, I once drowned in the inner realm whilst exploring the outer edges of the map, fell down a steep cliff into the sea. I did not get necro, and hadnt fought a mob or anyone else since I logged in that day.

Maybe you got aggro from a mob and didnt even know cuss he was like to low level for you....?

Anyriand 04-17-2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Zas_ (Post 1008200)
It occurs sometimes, yes some people prefer to run in water, and what ?

You call them cowards, ok, but how to name hunters:
attacking wounded unprepared lower level grinders from camo with an OP pet is not exactly glorious, and all hunters do it.

This is a game, everybody can act as they want to (even if ...).

Not all hunters do it because not all hunters have pets, let alone OP ones... and not all hunters kill grinders low on hp, I've know a few...
Your right about one thing though, nothing glorious about that.

Gytha_Ogg 04-17-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PT_DaAr_PT (Post 1008114)
It's not random at all, if you get no necro then it's probably because you were hit by a player a few minutes ago(and they get the RP :P), if you get 2% necro then you were hit by a mob(and the mob gets the RP :P), if you get 5% then it's because you succesfully suicided(no one gets the RP).

But most of the time when I am chasing someone to the river, I get the RP. :P

I think that we all can agree that it are most syrtians who do that, specially the high level ones, on the other realms it are mostly new players. >.>

Hmm, I just strolled off the side of a cliff and didn't get necro - no one had hit me recently, I guess it depends how recent 'recently' is.

If it is mostly Syrtians doing it (and I don't have any numbers - oddly enough, no one seems to be scared enough of my to run drown themselves :cuac:), I suspect it's just that there are more Syrtians - if 2% of each realm does it, more Syrts are doing it, nothing to do with any moral failing on their part.

Wikid 04-17-2010 06:08 PM

Yes this happens in all realms. In my own realm, I can think of two people off the top of my head who are extremely cowardly... my advice to everyone is to DEAL WITH IT!

Some people just can't take the hit on their ego if they die. Sad to say, but a lot of people think of this as more than just a game and will have their day completely ruined if they get killed by someone in another realm. Drowning isn't the only coward move I see regularly. I also see people logging off inside of forts so they don't get killed after a capture.

[SIDENOTE]
On the teebag topic... people take this game too seriusly. Just because I killed you (or more appropriately you killed me :D) is not a reason to hold a grudge. If a hunter killes you while afk at the save and then dances on your corpse... that is a reason to hold a grudge. Grow up people!
[/SIDENOTE]

PT_DaAr_PT 04-17-2010 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GythaOgg (Post 1008363)
If it is mostly Syrtians doing it (and I don't have any numbers - oddly enough, no one seems to be scared enough of my to run drown themselves :cuac:), I suspect it's just that there are more Syrtians - if 2% of each realm does it, more Syrts are doing it, nothing to do with any moral failing on their part.

No, I actually do mean it, and it are mostly syrtian locks...

(with horses) >.>

TheMessenger 04-17-2010 11:12 PM

Getting Necro after running drowning is random. Ive logged before and ran straight into the water and gotten the choice to choose wall or save with 0 necro.

Also alsius dont drown themselves. They hide behind trees like (except for a couple of players I have met. Gideon Slack, Angelz, some others). Syrtis drown themselves the most and from what Ive seen ignis tries to run away the most.

Example of alsius hiding. I went behind aggers today and saw indur camo. I scorched where he camoed he came out of camo and we skirmished for a bit or w.e and I was about to kill him than he ran behind a tree. Than he came out (I was out of mana after sotw and a couple of norms) ambushed me and killed me. Perfect example of alsius tactics 1v1.

Each realm has chicken shit players but from my experience (and Ive played all realms) Syrtis has the most followed very closely by alsius and ignis in last.

Mbwana 04-18-2010 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMessenger (Post 1008770)
...
Also alsius dont drown themselves. They hide behind trees like (except for a couple of players I have met. Gideon Slack, Angelz, some others). Syrtis drown themselves the most and from what Ive seen ignis tries to run away the most.

Example of alsius hiding. I went behind aggers today and saw indur camo. I scorched where he camoed he came out of camo and we skirmished for a bit or w.e and I was about to kill him than he ran behind a tree. Than he came out (I was out of mana after sotw and a couple of norms) ambushed me and killed me. Perfect example of alsius tactics 1v1.
....

ironic you mentioned this, I believe you also went behind a tree during a brief 1v1 between my marks and yours :p I viewed that to be a very good tactic: to avoid an enemy's sight and to turn the tables against your opponent after gaining a bit of breathing space (though in my case you would have beaten me regardless xD)

now drowning has nothing like that; it doesn't give you an advantage against opponents, except to make them feel faintly annoyed...btw, I haven't seen any iggies or goats do this, only syrts and I don't know why :S

TheMessenger 04-18-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mbwana (Post 1008873)
ironic you mentioned this, I believe you also went behind a tree during a brief 1v1 between my marks and yours :p I viewed that to be a very good tactic: to avoid an enemy's sight and to turn the tables against your opponent after gaining a bit of breathing space (though in my case you would have beaten me regardless xD)

now drowning has nothing like that; it doesn't give you an advantage against opponents, except to make them feel faintly annoyed...btw, I haven't seen any iggies or goats do this, only syrts and I don't know why :S

I dont remember going behind a tree but if I did it was only to buff.

When I said alsius goes behind trees I meant they do it so that you cant kill them or they do it and let their pet/summon kill you

Acknor 04-18-2010 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mbwana (Post 1008873)
I haven't seen any iggies or goats do this, only syrts and I don't know why :S

Funny this topic should come up. Just tonight, I watched an Ignis player cast sanc and run into the water to avoid being killed by us. He came back later and when we attacked, he did the same thing again. Unfortunately for him, we got him the second time before the water did.

So it's not only Syrtis who does it. Sorry I didn't get a screenie as proof.

Wikid 04-18-2010 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acknor (Post 1008949)
Funny this topic should come up. Just tonight, I watched an Ignis player cast sanc and run into the water to avoid being killed by us. He came back later and when we attacked, he did the same thing again. Unfortunately for him, we got him the second time before the water did.

So it's not only Syrtis who does it. Sorry I didn't get a screenie as proof.

Archer sanc or conju sanc? If it was a hunter I have a pretty good idea of who it would be.

ncvr 04-18-2010 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMessenger (Post 1008880)
I dont remember going behind a tree but if I did it was only to buff.

When I said alsius goes behind trees I meant they do it so that you cant kill them or they do it and let their pet/summon kill you

Doesn't matter. Hiding behind a tree is a tactic which can be countered and everyone can do it. Deal with it instead of whining here.

TheMessenger 04-18-2010 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrovarus (Post 1008961)
Doesn't matter. Hiding behind a tree is a tactic which can be countered and everyone can do it. Deal with it instead of whining here.

Im not whining :/

_Enio_ 04-18-2010 05:46 AM

Well i myself see a pet class hiding behind a tree while the pet attacks as a low tactic (eg. hunter with skind pet).

Apart from that hugging obstacles its not only legit, sometimes youd be stupid to not do.

DemonMonger 04-18-2010 07:51 AM

More Rp goes to players you use good timing and brain power...

Less Rp goes to players that grind in the warzone and play poorly...

(end of story)

Pimousse 04-18-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

... it is mainly because i can not win, and want to make attacker angry...
You get a point here ...
You can't win so you want make your opponent angry ? True but sad.
Its a game, we play to have fun, you have fun to make your opponent angry. Good spirit of fair playing ...

Its mostly syrtisians players, i agree. haha let me troll a little bit.
They are pro time master horse.

When they defend a fort and the doors is breaking, hunters sotw run away, mages time master horse. They are like rats leaving the sinking boat lol

ieti 04-18-2010 08:51 AM

I use Time Master - Horse combo and it is pretty fun to see. Nothing wrong with it. By this i want to tease or get anngry those players who are obsessed of getting an RP. Others will just say - well he runned.

In fact by several times i used it it was success only 2 times.

First was when i was going to shaanarid and on beach 4 player party tried to kill me. Time Mastered and runned. They tried to catch me till pb2 xD

Second was on samal when you break the door and i TM'ed pretty huge amount and managed to escape too. Was pretty fun for me. If someone gets angry it is his problem.

I primarily use TM to stop rushing warriors, and what i do is fun and challenge. Do i succeed, how many will resist etc etc etc.

By the means of good spirit of playing i want to point at that hunters who use constantly SoTW, LP + Confuse. Even they see i'm alone conjurer in support setup. Without confuse they will kill me for little long time, but they place confuse and kill with this OP spell. Do they make me angry? Yes they are. Is this a fair play? For me it is not. So i start to employ common tactics against them.

Angel_de_Combate 04-18-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonMonger (Post 1009043)
More Rp goes to players you use good timing and brain power...

Less Rp goes to players that grind in the warzone and play poorly...

(end of story)

Erm sometimes..its better to grind in the wz..you know if like in Ignis, Meleketi Beach is packed full of grinders you have no choice but to grind in the wz, but if you do decide to grind in wz please dont moan when you die by realm enemies killing you.

Pimousse 04-18-2010 09:39 AM

I don't know why somany people relate all the game to rp. Its just ridiculous. Rp means nothing, nevertheless you know that ... Stop being obsess ... Rp are always the good reason to do unfair things ...

Ieti, if people wants to kill you when they capture back the fort, that's not for rp ... They fight maybe 1 hour or 2 for that, that's just the game ...

I think farming at samal or aggy for 3 hours like so many time syrtis zerg do ( and yes maybe ignis at european night) is mostly for rp, because where is the fun there ?

But don't worry, you are not the lonely mage to do that, you have pro horse runners in syrtis ;)

Sorry its off topic, but the topic is related to rp anyway ...

ieti 04-18-2010 09:57 AM

I know but by means of doing this it is challenge and fun. I try to get all the fun i can with conjurer, because i like that class and....it is pretty monotonous and broken. So i do all to make strange and ugly things sometimes to make it my white magic evil mage. Else i will stop playing it, and i really love my conjurer.

RP, RP, RP they destroy all the fun. I really enjoy fights with tactics, teamplay, and with well timed areas(not area spams we usually see). I usually do not like zerg farming with hours. Killing same 4-5 ppl again and again is not the way. I was in that situation too at our forts when we do not have enough - it is pretty frustrating i know. For the moment fights i enjoy most are open field and bridge fights. So we can do more of this.

Calling someone a coward because you are angry of type he want to make fun is not right. Everyone that plays here have different vision of fun. Coward...meh...

frank1216 04-18-2010 10:21 AM

Syrtians are not the only ones who run away, I see enough alsius and ignis players do the same.
Make your realm quit with it completely and then come back and cry...

UmarilsStillHere 04-18-2010 03:41 PM

If someone drowns with you attacking them you get RP, they get Necro (most of the time), shame for them, not really a problem for you though is it?

If someone runs away and escapes then they need to run all the way (normaly to cs) to regroup with everyone instead of just getting killed and spawning there, and your RP count is a bit lower :ohill: Its Rp, who cares?

Have to agree that both of these are no less cheap/sad/cowardly etc than hunters coming from camo with ambush, confuse etc ... more so on low level grinders, yes I still see level 50 hunters hunting level 30-40's. You brave people ;)

I have never seen a syrtian drown themself that I can remember, probably because people are often alone when they do it, I have however seen Alsius and Ignis do it countless times so dont doubt Syrtis do it as well. Just because you dont see your realm do something, dosnt mean they dont. :)

In conclusion, its a the same RP for you, necro for them, or a few less RP, big deal.

VandaMan 04-18-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Umaril (Post 1009239)
In conclusion, its a the same RP for you, necro for them, or a few less RP, big deal.

I think that was really his point, probably just wanted to inform the swimmer that he still go full RP :P

UmarilsStillHere 04-18-2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VandaMan (Post 1009258)
I think that was really his point, probably just wanted to inform the swimmer that he still go full RP :P

And we managed to drag 4 pages out of that ^^

backe 04-18-2010 04:40 PM

This thread delivers. :thumb_up:


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