What about to put Realm Chat Back to the whole map?
 

About the realm chat, well limiting it inside the realm wall has been the greatest fail for NGD, Sorry guys but that step makes look RO like an empty game. A day i went to rae to buy some stuff and a newbie Said in Syrtis chat : Oh well another shitty empty game... while i had 45 ppl on my list warring at forts... The most part of newbies leave because they can talk with nobody else beside other noobies inside wall... Maybe extending back the Realm Chat to the whole map and stop to pursue the possibility of oblige players to spend 80 ximerins on War banner could bring u much more cash from new "satisfied" players. I wish u wouldn't ignore my last words, because at first i noticed it like others did, i mean about newbies' istant quitting or Quarrels for "Disorganization" in game... you should understand that players waste money in game if they like it; if u keep smashing it with new pro-ximerins updates, u will have a reversed-effect. Nobody spends money anymore-> Nobody Buys war banners-> ppl cries for disorganization->ppl leave the game-> nomore money for You , Newbies quit even before join = The game Dies.

I agree good idea

How do you know the exact reason why new people leave the game? Just because you think that's what's happening doesn't mean it's the reality. I know for sure that there's always old players grinding alts inside, they're not forced to talk in realm chat though.

We got realm chat on Piranha and I can tell you it's useless in the war zone and only adds more confusion because people there... aren't really that bright, tbh. It's actually not rare to see someone talking in Ignis chat to people in the clan. What's bad about having it now is that later when they have to remove it it's going to be hard because of people like you who got used to it in the war zone and won't accept the change.

I'm all for "no" to this.

well,
At first, piranha is still a new server, few players and not so much to say considering that the most part are lvl 20 or newbies. U don't play on Horus anyway, so u can't talk either about what's going on that server, and i'm sure, u will think like me when u notice that nobody grinds a new alts, cause nobody spends anymore cash on the game, as i said, not satisfied players, no good profit.

About the spam, it's easy, just put a cooldown of few seconds on every message u send before talk again, i mean someone says "Goats at trelle!" , he shouldn't be able to talk again for minum 10 seconds to avoid the spam, and u can ever add a properly war chat available in warzone like commerce one inside wall, but keeping the syrtis chat alive in both sides with a chat-again cooldown. More Organization, More help for newbies, new players lvling in a "full game" , nomore waste of war banners but alot of money from boosters, mounts, scrolls and customizations. Like I said just put a cooldown of few secs and ppl will talk just for "real" necessity and not for spam. Really mate the syrtis chat killing, at the same time killed tons of new incoming players, and remember that after the WM update, ppl is lvling their old lvl 50ish to 60 and not 0 to 60, or at least scrolling them to 45 and grind in warzone. If a new guy starts to play, he needs help, needs hints, needs someone to talk with, how would u feel joining in a party-room where there are 2 ppl while the real party is in the closer room? would u like to drink something? i guess not. It is a stupid example but i guess clearly understandable.

When your Realm chat, which new players are very likely to think means everyone in your realm (why wouldn't they?) is dead, it makes your game look dead.

People in the warzone can learn not to rely on realm chat for information. But new players who just talk to themselves in realm chat will often never get as far as the warzone.

Even if its just full of spam random convos and misleading information, at least it gives new players the ability to see that there are other long term high level players around. Ironskins example is a good one, the cut of realm chat from the warzone divides newbies from the experienced players who's help they may need, as well as a feeling of activity in game.

Agree something needs to be done to make horus appear active to new players and to help with organization, dont agree with the re-introduction of realm chat as it was though. Realm chat was of little use for organizing battles or to low levels asking for help as important messages where frequently lost or ignored in the general chat.

Made a suggestion a while ago to have a channel viewable by all but writing restricted to (for instance) clan or party leaders or as a warmaster skill (WM skill got a lot of objections). Also think the carrier pigeon hunter skill suggested a while back was a good idea.

One problem with any of this is it would effect war banner sales.

This one is a tough call. Normally I would say no but the recent struggle that Horus is seeing might warrant a temporary return of realm chat.

Tough, tough call this one.

Maybe make it read-only in the warzone?
This way more experienced players could choose to pm new players to give them advice if they feel like.

Or like some other games to put the " level Limit" to talk in chat, like lvl 30 or 45 so only pro players talk, and lesser spam

btw make a poll about this?

I don't think players in warzone should be able to use it for communication with each other.
It creates a number of problems that the removal of the warzone chat solved.

• Makes regrouping more important.
• Makes clans more important:
  Before, when the warzone chat was still around, you could log on and say "hi" in clan chat without getting any reply.
  When switching over to the realm char you found several of your clan mates chatting there instead.
• Makes hunting funnier:
  With a warzone chat hunting solo or in small groups becomes nearly impossible, due to hunters reporting on your every step in realm chat.
  You won't find anyone for 30 minutes, then suddenly you get jumped by a pack of 10 people out of nowhere.

Therefore, I would vote against reintroducing warzone chat if it means that players in warzone can use it for communication.

On principle, I'm against realm chat in warzone.

But there are some new things to take into consideration since it has been removed:
- Horus population fell down very massively, all the hard work made on this game these last years got vanished cause of Warmaster update and new save system. We reverted 2 or 3 years back in time.
- there is 3 new servers Nemon, Raven and Piranha that split new comers.
- Now high level players have to grind exclusively in warzone. (EDIT)

Apart some things NGD should really work on as:
- completely revamp warmaster update: Bois' suggestion 1st post - 2nd post
- and revert old save system back. It's under way, but I'm still convinced 3 saves will fit better to low population servers than 1 unique save.

I think realm chat could temporary go back in warzone to help population to grow up again, or implement new rules for realm chat when you are in warzone.

For example, realm chat and inner commerce chat can be available from warzone only if you are close to a save, like 10 meters. It won't screw too much the fog of war, but you will can chat and help people inner realm when you're idling at a save.

They can't make it back because they'll have to fix a bug on it.
Remember old time with gobal chat, some people were able to crash everyone watching it.
It was an important issue and I think they just didn't find what happened and just closed it to "quickfix" it.

This is really a difficult one. Very tricky to deal with.

If players need mentoring, there are new tools coming available. The game counsellor system could fill this role. The game counsellor sees realm chat inside or in WZ and are able to provide responses to new players. that should be a reasonable solution to that issue.

The making realm appear alive thing is much more difficult. Now I am not really for the realm chat in the warzone but I think of 2 ways that might be interesting to think about.
As Nel mentioned, you could have realm chat hotspots at the save and markets.
Optionally, you could have realm chat but lose it once one of your structures get captured or your wall becomes vulnerable/invaded. If you are devastated you don't have it either. That may cause more problems than solutions but it could be interesting.

Such measures are temporary and could be modulated by polling server populations.

Regards

Reverting realm chat for the warzone in Horus would be horrible. There are many old posts that explain why.

One solution to the OP's problem might be to revert NGD's "social experiment" of removing the /users command.

Making realm chat read-only while in the warzone idea isn't too bad of an idea either. It's still a distraction, but at least people can't use it for WZ communication.

Wow, your putting down someone because they play in a different server? This is the forum were people speak english come, not people who play horus only.. please stop being idiots just because someone disagrees with your point.


Ot: Just me here, but i'd prefer a warzone chat for people inside the warzone.. imo would be better

Agree with Art...temporary is a good idea.

I am not agree in WM spell idea ....looks stupid.

Old command /ignore works ..and i see no isues with "drama"...that other people talk.

For new people yes look dead..i dont care abou old people that not talk on chat..is they bussiness what they doo...but this days i was many times inside realm ...and some new players was asking thinks as :
"-hello anyone here?"
"-where i find x NPC"
"-anyone like this game?"

And noone answare..how do you think they felt?...i bet they felt alone and left.

Even there are people that complaint about that,at least a period to give a sign to new players :"This game is alive".

I think this notices are not enught.A human sign as talk on a chat is something diferent.A new player will see this notices ..but he has no idea what is going on around.
They feeling is as a person that is in a clan but is alone inside...talking with noone.I know many people that left a clan with a empty chat because they felt alone...a new player might have the same felling.

It is easy to judge chat from a old player perspective...but how about judge that chat from new player perspective?

Or they could learn from Raven's success and search within their community for people willing to help them with that task. Among other things, of course.

As far as I know, most people doing that job for GameSamba, used to play on Horus. Which meant that they had the resources, they just decided not to use them.

Raven and Horus merge? :clapclap:

I don't want to share my GMs!!! xD

I am against realm chat in WZ. When you re in a war, you do not have much time to read spam on realm chat, or kids who rage with random "fsdfewwwwwwwwwwwwwdgsrydfffffffffffffffffffffffff fffffffgseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rwest" strings. Well, unless you want to be amused when standing at save or waiting 20 minutes your enemies in their fort. Whenever I go in inner and have time to help, I ask on realm chat if any needs help with quests. When I am in war zone, I m focused on war and have no time to go inner. I also like to have minimum chat tabs open in war zone, so they would not distract me much.

War banners are fine for me. Even though I do not have access to them, I can always set up a party or ask in a clan to catch up with the latest war happenings.

The chat in war zone was asked from perspective of a new player,not from old person.In syrtis you have no issue with numbers of players/warmasters/etc.
Alsius has this troble.
Yestarday you had more warmasters in hunt party that alsius has in entire realm even with people that quit/movet to Raven.
And you feel like war banner use is highter?
You can use command /ignore.
And next time go in syrtis realm to see how noone talk in realm chat and a new player feeling is a empty game.
And was about temporary idea...not permanent....3-6 months at least to help a bit boost of numbers of players in Horus.

chilko ="wee advertise more the game"....can be but a new player that see a empty chat you think he will stay?....
I remeber 2,5-3 years a go when was realm chat was umesing fast growing numbers of players.Maybe you forgot but that was the period when syrtis had a umasing boost of number...

I believe you actively play in Syrtis so you can comfortably say we never have problems with numbers of players/warmasters/etc. I visit inner minimum twice a day, and sometimes inner chat is empty for quite some time. You say to visit Syrtis inner chat, while Ironskin, topic starter, IS a Syrtis player and quoted one Syrtis newbie. Alsius has problem, poor them. FYI, SERVER has a problem with population.

I hope you also remember when Alsius had a problem of players trolling your newbies on "whole map" chat. Did that help your boost? I still dont see a logic that chat can help a boost. It can make communication easier but still cannot fix game AND server problems Horus has. And on that, NGD can impact much more than us and "return of one chat for all in realm". Temporary.. This sounds like sticking another bandaid on problems, instead healing the source of it.
I dont understand what you wanted to say here.

Nope..the main issue had when played in syrtis...had over 50% or syrtis on /ignore...not one in alsius.I think the main issue of chat in syrtis and that why most of anti-chat are syrtis.
And played only 1 year in syrtis after 2-2,5 years alsius.

Syrtis invade both realm in one day...20k W coins...wile i got 2k in 3 days because dayly zerging..Tanks NGD for they awesome balance......today syrtis killed our WZ boss for fun ,that wee never can doit because lack of hight players and population....syrtis needit 3 minuts....and you still complaint about syrtis ...lame from your side Anpu..very lame...better say tnx to NGD....

You know..that why i left syrtis from this kind of mentality in syrtis ,selfish people...never think at others they think only at they...you dont care about new people,you dont care about others realm...but still complaint about syrtis numbers and chat that is your personal probleme.

Not really good idea most people won't give a shit about noobs needing help to kill a boss.

-It makes regrouping easier

-It really Doesn't make hunting funnier, I mean in what way can it make hunting more fun?

-It doesn't work like that.. At all.

Raven nemon and Horus pff imagine that! why did NGD split horus in the first place? I mean 1.5 years ago Horus was completely healthy it was a nicely populated server now NGD simply splitted Horus in 3 low population servers :facepalm3:

:poster_spam: Triple post!! :poster_spam:

I thought you left Regnum, didnt you?

You should also stop to share with us all your shining lights about this game, that will save us from headaches. :angel2:

+1

He/She is so annoying in forums. :D

I think the realm chat should never had been removed/nerfed because its always nice to chat to everyone...it was true some people did spam on it but it was excelent for newer players to make friends and get information (the first step) then in later on get into a clan just make one (advanced step).

I don't yet fully understand (or remember) why they removed it, the arguement i remember was that it would reduce lagg however, id rather a little lag (if any was removed) to chat to people while i wonder around like the lonely soldier i am...

P.S. I'm against the segregation of the servers, this game would be much more fun and faster pased if all the servers were combined...increasing the experiance therefore the potential.

P.P.S. Oh and i would also give that guy called spartish his deleted chars back because he really enjoys/misses the game...

Arg..another hard one..yeah its sometimes nice not having to look at all the spam when in the warzone..but on the other hand, i have always said that Horus is way too small to remove realm chat from the warzone.

Yes , high levels do go in realm, occasionaly, and sometimes some hang out in realm..but its never for long usually, not long enough. (and not always the right people either i guess...)

Banners in wz...they do not always work, people play with sound off and dont always notice the little icon flashing in the corner..and imo, its roughly the same 3 of 4 people in Ignis that use banners to try and pull a group together..what if these players aren't on? :/ People are so disheartened with the game they simply arent buying Xim..

Now if they can disable boats on Raven and leave all others servers boats working, why can't they reintroduce realm chat to WZ in Horus? I had made another suggestion along with a few others of the same idea to turn realm chat to WZ chat when you leave the inner realm, would help with co-ordinating , but with the current state of Horus right now, i don't think bringing realm chat back to wz...just to see if it helps for a lil bit...would do any harm, and as for the spammers so many of us dont like to watch type...good old /ignore....

I don't think so.

The problem lies elsewhere, this is not the source. When people join Regnum they tend to join it for the RvR. If they don't know this then they have quests that tell them about it, because that is what the game revolves around.

I remember when I joined Regnum, there was still a realm chat in the warzone, but I didn't need to see it to know that people were there. I imagined and knew that there were probably people fighting beyond that wall, and obviously when you saw messages like "Fort has been captured by realm" you knew that was where the action was.

Regnum doesn't need to be any more of a PvE game.

Also: Triple post what the hell.

I don't get the point with PvE anyway....

It's that was afraid about,for you it is easy now because you allardy eperienced the war zone ,clans,fights,old realm chat where ppl talk non-stop about enemys/trolling wtv...you know what is behind this silence.
Just go and make a new char and spend days and watch th realm chat...see how react or what kind of questions put new players.Don't think only for you...put you in they situation.

TBH i think its just alsius chat is dead, i was on ignis horus for a couple of days and they have all sorts of random conversations O_O.
Plus syrtis is probably always talking about how they love justin beiber...

I kinda left regnum but I still played regnum ''full-time'' about 14 days ago so... I don't think the game has changed alot since I left has it? And I still take a look now and then so don't you worry about me worry about getting headaches from your awesome gameplay ;p


Hmm why because you can't stand the fact that Alenox owns you in every aspect of life?

This topic again :p.

Realm chat was removed for reasons discussed over numerous topics, and it should stay that way. I really don't see newcomers having any major issues when it comes to questing inner realm, for the most part, it's pretty easy, perhaps only needing help with the various bosses. This help however is easy to come by thanks to people collecting their WM coin rewards for the various quests.

I'm sure there will be moments when they cannot find any help inner realm, but I'm pretty certain that not completing the quest there and then is not the end of the world, they will live to see another day and eventually help will come by.

Last thing we need is the return of realm chat and open up this can of worms again.

I agree that there is a problem with the current population levels, but realm chat in the war zone is not the answer. New players will still find their way to the war zone. IMHO the underlying cause of the current low population in Horus is due to the various changes made by NGD starting with the WM "expansion". Hopefully these coming balance updates and altar reversion will address some of these issues and players will return to a game that's fun for them again.

I like this idea most, just like the commerce chat works at the markets and when you leave the 'hotspot' for a certain amount of range the chat dissappears.

+1 like that idea

I have another suggestion.
There should be an option to enable\disable realm and commerce chat.

I play on Nemon and Commerce+Realm chat sometimes cause me problems in WZ. They take too much space on chats tab bar. So no space for PMs. I would disable commerce chat most of my play time. But sometimes it is necessary to control it. Why should I stay at market for it?

If you enable commerce chat you should get atleast 10-20 of last messages, but not clear window.

Taking away Realmchat was detrimental to the game. Yes, I said it.

Even in the early days of RA where its player count was like Horus (only 200-300 online at any given time), it still got heavily spammed with trades requests, people asking for help, insults, and everything else that you can think of. However, it was also heavily used to the benefit of the realm. "Donde hay guerra?", words that were the first thing every Regnum player typed as they logged in, and it lead to war... alot of war. Horus was different, unfortunately. It seemed to get all of the spam and none of the benefits, and I think alot of this is due to the player base changing over time. There is no denying that Horus has alot of young players, and some of them don't really know how to interact with other people properly. This leads to alot of drama and other problems for both players and NGD.

But my opinion remains. Stepping out of the warzone gate for the first time, not seeing that realm chat, knowing enemies could jump you at any time and that you had no way of finding allies unless you had a good clan or party.. It really sent shivers down your spine and added a whole new level to warzone gameplay... for the first few months. After that it just got boring, and stale. Repetitive running between locations just trying to find someone, never knowing if a fort is about to be taken or lost, always trailing behind the wargroups, hoping you have a horse or teleport or something to catch up before you miss all the action... quite frankly I think players have had enough of it.

To say that the bad things about realmchat are worse than all of that seems a bit much, but that's just how I see it. That said, I do like some of the alternative ideas suggested here... and I would love to see a compromise between the two extremes show up in the game some day. I just know that the way that this game slowly spiralled down to "boredom online" needs to be adjusted, perhaps even completely reverted. I wouldn't care if it's an 'in-your-face action FPS' again as chilko used to describe it back when it was "Quake" in the pre-invasions patches, I just want some good ol' fashioned fun.