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Old 06-09-2010, 08:25 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Klutu View Post
haha Comp owes me 5$

I said soon as i posted on this thread Ulrin would of came in with a smug comment & screenshots :P

Smug comment? Yeah, Right. Not my fault you can't decipher my message. Also, don't be ridiculous. Compost owes you nothing - informally or otherwise.

Screenshots - no further comments. Readers can go look themselves if they want.

Grinding - from my own experience, clans are definitely not needed for pure grinding. As long as the Grind Parties are publicized - advertised a few times in Realm Chat, newcomers should be able to easily locate grind parties. That's how I found grinding parties - and met decent folks in-game.

Vultureman, The Sweetness, Elli, flogger, Windrium, Ares, Healer-Myth and Torin Ironfist were among the first group of people I found myself grinding with, and chatting. Though I've had a few people briefly help me before with quests etc - Kianoni, Sydonay, Ogre...

Then naturally found myself grinding with other decent people - with potential and pro-Community - like Archangel, Rohan Knight, Sparta, Urizen, Durwyn, Erok, Asdaf Mage, Klos, Anyriand, Knekeloveste, Castingbeast, Falcorn Bosso, Kyrottimus, Bluie, Lly'ra, Veer Gupt, Simlis... Just off the top of my head (apologies if I left someone out).

All those individuals discovered, on my own, without being pulled into a "pro-grinding" clan.

- Will AoA work? Yes and No - based on all the feedback I've read so far. While it may well give MMO newcomers the necessary, basic cognitive skills of analyzing the battlefield and casting the right spells at the right time, it also has the potential to promote Elitism and Favouritism - two unacceptable concepts from the Real World that hinders real progress and real competition. Not to mention the possible anti-invasion messages that they may hand out...

Quoting Prokofy Neva (yes, I like using Prokofy's blog posts as references - a lot - since her posts are often right on point):

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[Favouritism], which you can think of as "the kool kids" or "the jocks and cheerleaders" or "the inside dopes" or however you called it in your high-school or your office, where perhaps you rage and gnash your teeth at the fact that people who seem to do less work or have less talent or even less fabulousness than you still get ahead through connections, favour-banks, or sleeping their way to the top. Or even if they DO deserve their spot in the Hall of Fame, because they DO work their asses off and DO have talent, you feel, but wait...what about the people with no talent? What about justice? What about fairness? I work hard, too!
Three possible pathways, in a nutshell.

One. The program is a success, with at least some of the issues I mentioned dissolved.

Two. Mild success, with rampant Favouritism and Elitism. Which in turn ruins other clans, gameplay etc.

Three. Miserable failure, for some reason.

When I wrote "Best of Luck" earlier, I really meant it, in a non-cynical way. Managing communities isn't easy; managing young children is hard. Managing young'uns AND discouraging unacceptable practices such as Favouritism and Elitism is harder - something Compost may be able to achieve. Doubt his counterpart/partner-in-crime is capable, though.
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