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Originally Posted by Flightcap
Ok, here's my 2 cents on the issue, then I'm done.
My thoughts come mostly in the form of questions......
How does your (anti-gun folks) logic work out to the idea that guns are the problem? Have you forgotten the hundreds of thousands - maybe millions - of people that died violent deaths before gunpowder was ever discovered? Sadly, human nature is always bent towards destruction. Destroying our latest invention for destruction, sadly, will never solve that. The problem you are trying to address is correct - humans with evil intent are more dangerous with guns. The method you use to address it is not. Evil intent can be dangerous with a stick. If we ban guns, shouldn't we next ban sticks, rocks, and kitchen knives?
In short, banning guns is never going to remove the root problem - humanity's destructive nature - that brings evil intent to fruition. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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And we have a winner!
You have to fix the problem, not treat the symptoms. The only way to stop violence is to change human nature, which is impossible. So you have to take the next logical step, and remove incentive for violence. Probably the best ways to do this are to improve education and public services as well as remove laws on things that deal with morality and vice as they are for things that aren't damaging to society, but the laws themselves create many problems with society.
Want to make an actual dent in the sexually transmitted disease infection rate? legalize prostitution, just have oversight of it requiring valid papers showing that the hookers are disease free.
Want to make a dent in gangs? As I said before, legalize the drugs that have no adverse health effects and treat them as you would alcohol and tobacco. you gain allot more money in the stare coffers from the taxes and you remove the gang's major money maker as well as remove them from becoming "gateway" drugs, since the only way I've ever seen something like marijuana become a lead in to other drugs is wen it's been laced with an actually addictive drug.
You wanna stop wars with other countries over resources? Get on completely renewable energy, water and food production and remove allot of the patents and copyrights that are holding back technological progress in our country to allow new businesses to start up and create more jobs.
Think prevention, not prohibition, as we can see how the prohibition of alcohol, sex, marijuana and every other drug has made us so much safer and has reduced crime.
But I guess we can forgive you, you have given no say in your countries future, and your apathy has allowed them to become everything that George Orwell warned us about and so much worse. Just remember, god save the queen.
Hell, stop tacking bad songs into topics, its a political discussion, if you're getting political advice from music you should put down the crack pipe. Besides, slipknot has only had like 3 good songs, and thats not one of them. It's like Mushroomead, as far as I've seen they only have 2 good tracks, their best is one where they have Jens Kidman of Meshuggah, the epic math metal band doing guest vocals and teaching them how to not suck in the track "The Dream Is Over"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMCtZXxozTM (sorry for the fail amv, but its the only decent sounding copy on youtube...) The other track is their more hard rock sound which they did well with in "Sun Doesn't Rise"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOzovX_3XhE but you can see that they're still trying to hard in their videos...